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I occasionally get into a mode where the hardware keyboard is non-responsive. Nothing on it works. I'm not sure if this is a defect on my particular phone, or if I've accidentally enabled some "feature" that causes the keyboard to be locked out. A soft reset will fix the issue, but that can be very annoying...
Has anyone else seen this?
Ken98045 said:
I occasionally get into a mode where the hardware keyboard is non-responsive. Nothing on it works. I'm not sure if this is a defect on my particular phone, or if I've accidentally enabled some "feature" that causes the keyboard to be locked out. A soft reset will fix the issue, but that can be very annoying...
Has anyone else seen this?
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I have experienced this before, where the backlight wont even activate from pressing a button, and the keyboard certainly isnt typing anything on the screen either. Although usually i can fix this by sliding the keyboard back in, and then out again.... annoying yes, but its only happened twice in the month i have had my ATT Fuze, and i havent had to reboot like you mentioned.
When running my stock AT&T rom, I had this happen almost daily. Now that I flashed a new rom, I have yet to experience it again. I had to turn off/on my device in order for it to go away before.
Same problem here.
Sliding in and out does not work any more.
Resetting doesn't work anymore either...
Time to flash to original Roms?
Keyboard lock up
This happens to me too. I noticed that it happens more frequently when I set my wifi to best performance, and then try to type something. Keyboard becomes completely unresponsive. I usually have to soft reset.
I had the problem with stock ATT rom, NATF rom, and now with RRE 4.5SE Rom. I have tried the T9 dissabler, but it also did not work. My Fuze is only a few days old...
I notice this seems to be a common problem... No one seems to have answered this in any of the posts I've read. Is there a cab or patch or reg tweak that some one has come up with to deal with this? Can some one look into this???
Thanks so much in advance!
Mitch
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Forgot to mention that this my second Fuze, sent the other one back because it was doing the same thing...
same unsolved issue here (wants me to crack my fuze)
Ive noticed this too... but what I do to correct the problem is hit the window key. It then activates the start menu. Then press it again to exit the start menu and the keyboard magiclly works again. At least for me anyway.
I have this problem occasionally, maybe twice with the ATT stock ROM, an once with the RRE 4.5SE ROM, mine rights itself after the application is closed and re-opened after a minute or so, so Im not that bothered, it is annoying though.
Nice, I'll try that..
Try the NATF ROM
Since I've switched over to the NATF ROM I haven't had a single problem with the keyboard.
tried NAFT v4 already with the same hq keyboard lock/die/shut down issue
Ken98045 said:
Since I've switched over to the NATF ROM I haven't had a single problem with the keyboard.
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Same issue here, happened with both stock rom and NATF 4.1
It goes away after doing some random things like others have mentioned, but still annoying.
I've been having a problem since shortly after I got my Fuze, that sometimes on reset it doesn't want to finish starting up -- maybe on one out of three resets. It seems to hang just before starting TF3D. It's still semi-responsive ... the backlight brightness turns back up if I hit a button, and an on-screen button may react if I press it (though it doesn't get as far as launching the application or bringing up the start menu)
Usually forcing another soft reset via the pinhole button results in it booting just fine.
I'm currently using ROMeOS, but I've run into this problem with multiple ROMs, including the stock one. I don't think it's a hardware issue ... I haven't had any other problems that suggest the unit itself is bad.
I tried to figure out what I've done each time I've customized my setup. I stayed away from registry tweaks that affect things like caches or hardware performance this time, and still got the issue. I tried uninstalling some of the apps that I always use. No dice.
But I think I've narrowed down the issue. I uninstalled mun background4allpages, which puts the wallpaper you select onto every tab. After several resets, no problem. I'll continue to test throughout the day, resetting sporadically. But I haven't seen anyone else report a problem like this with background4allpages ... so I'm not sure this is it.
Anyone have anything like this, with any cause at all?
I have his problem every once in awhile with ROMeOS too. I'm not sure what causes it but I'll have to do three or four restarts before it continues on. I think it usually happens after I install an app that has a Today plugin with it. But I'm not totally sure about that but I do know if is after I install a cab.
Looks like a today screen hangup. I can fix it by going to the Today Items tab in settings->today then choosing ok (which causes today to refresh plugins).
imtribble -- I've never needed to do 3-4 resets to clear it. I'm not sure I've even needed to do 2. But I know in my case, it's happened without any cab installed since the last boot.
Sleuth255 -- I'd actually tried that (though not for that purpose) but it doesn't seem to have helped, at least not permanently.
With background4alltabs uninstalled, it seems like the problem is gone (at least so far). I wonder if it might actually be the collision of using both background4alltabs and manilla customizer to change my clock -- since I read somewhere that the files background4alltabs changes also affect the clock. If I can confirm after several more resets that this was the problem, I'll post something in that thread.
I'm just so confused that it only happens sometimes, not all the time. Odd.
Actually, Sleuth255, that may have helped after all. I reinstalled background5allpages, and the problem reappeared. But then I did the Today "OK" and haven't been able to make it freeze since ... so maybe. Will report back further after more testing.
It is not just on ROMeOS though, with my fuze the same thing happens and I am running elite ROM RC2. It is some kind of today screen hangup and sleuth's solution did not help me. It takes ~2-3 soft resets to get it working correctly. If I hold the power button to reset rather than pressing the stylus reset it boots up with no hangs though. Interesting.
mdow09 -- are you using background4allpapers? how about manila customizer (and if so, what have you used it to change)? anything loading in your startup group? trying to figure out what the common elements among people having this problem might be.
its happened to me on provens rom and when i had romeos
but a second reset always fixes it
Not using background4allpapers or manila customizer, the clsoest thing I am using to that is TF3D config. My senses tell me it is something to do with my secondtoday screen. My startups are as follows:
Answer key disabler
autoshortcut.ink
cleartemp.ink
filedlgchgs.ink
G-alarm reload
HTC startup
PKG.ink
poutlook.ink
startclean.ink
hmmm.... I've not gotten a permanent fix either, I occasionally hang up after a reset. When I have my issue, the start menu is operational and I can load programs etc w/o issues. It's only the today screen that's hung which is why I tried fixing it by refreshing the items list in today settings. I'm not running touchflo either if that makes a diff.
mdow09 -- It looks like the only things in common we're running are the processes that are always there. Nothing from an installed app.
Sleuth -- How long does the today/ok seem to fix it for? Do you do something in between that could be re-triggering the problem? I've done 6-7 resets since I reinstalled background4allpapes. I got a freeze on the first. I tried the today/ok and it hasn't frozen since. Been running various apps and doing various tasks in between the resets.
I -MAY- have solved this, or at least worked around it.
Previously, I tried uninstalling Background4allpages. That seemed to solve it, but I only had it uninstalled for a day or so. No conclusive word on whether it was involved.
I tried Sleuth's Today/OK trick. That seemed to stave it off for a while. Still came back. Possibly after installing new apps or doing other things that affect the Today setup. Not sure.
But here's my most recent attempt -- I moved TouchFlo3d (almost) all the way to the top in the list of Today items, with everything else (as normal) unchecked. You can't go all the way to the top, because the date entry is there. My working theory (based on nothing concrete yet) is that the plugins are loaded in the order in which they appear in that list, and the Today function isn't getting to load one that's problematic. Perhaps it's a similar issue - when the problem appears, Touchflo itself won't load because of another plugin that loads first, but each would be fine independently. In any case, pushing it to the top priority seems to be preventing the problem -- at least for now.
Obvious holes in my theory -- It seems strange that Today would still load unchecked plug-ins at all, though maybe it still does some sort of cursory scan of them. And wouldn't the problematic plugin still then load AFTER touchflo in my new setup? Maybe it is, but it's only causing a problem if it loads before TF3D?
As before, will report back after more observation ...
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Sleuth -- How long does the today/ok seem to fix it for? Do you do something in between that could be re-triggering the problem? I've done 6-7 resets since I reinstalled background4allpapes. I got a freeze on the first. I tried the today/ok and it hasn't frozen since. Been running various apps and doing various tasks in between the resets.
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Its intermittent for sure. I've not been able to peg down what causes it yet.
Hey folks,
I have been having a lot of problems with my X7510 lately. The screen keeps locking up in standby mode. When the device is in standby I turn it on and it prompts me for my password. After putting in my password I just get a black screen with the word "password" at the top. While the device is in this state I can still sync (and see all of the files on it) when I connect to my computer. The screen on the device, however, is locked up. This problem has been happening several times a day lately and I cannot receive calls when it happens (nor do I get any indication of missed calls). The only way to get the X7510 to work is to do a soft reset.
At first I thought it might have something to do with the password manager, so I turned the password off today. A couple of hours later I found it locked up anyway. When I pressed the power button it did not come on at all, though the GSM and BT/WIFI lights continued to flash.
Is anyone having this issue? Were you able to figure out what was causing the problem? I am very frustrated right now. My device locks up so much that it is practically unusable since I have to do a reset 2-4 times a day.
Yes- I'm seeing the same issue from time to time. Haven't had time to investigate yet.
Last time it happened was yesterday- Green and Amber lights were flashing, but all buttons unresponsive, and had to do a soft reset.
Running PocketPlus 4.03 as a front end.
That is probably a software issue. Better enumerate your softwares and find out the common one causing it. Usually start with the last one you installed prior to having the problem.
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That is probably a software issue. Better enumerate your softwares and find out the common one causing it. Usually start with the last one you installed prior to having the problem.
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I agree it's definitely a software issue. The only recent addition for me has been Spb Keyboard. PP4.03 has been on since day one, and did not initially seem to be associated with lockups.
When I have time, I'll try and narrow it down a bit.
I have not installed any new software in over six weeks. The only thing that has changed in the last week is an update to IM+. I have uninstalled it completely and will see what happens. If this fails I am not sure what to do.
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I have not installed any new software in over six weeks. The only thing that has changed in the last week is an update to IM+. I have uninstalled it completely and will see what happens. If this fails I am not sure what to do.
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Just for the record, I don't use any sort of Instant Messaging!
With my Advantage on the ultra-extreme blinks I suffered the tortures of the damned, tortures of the damned. No less than once every couple of hours I'd find my device locked up. Upon direction from my kind forum mates, I decided to uninstall the last software change on the not-so trusty X7510. After removing the IM+ software the PDA still locked up two more times that day. I gave up hope and decided to do an hard reset.
The next day, however, it did not hang up at all. The same goes for today, so after locking up five times a day for a week I have not locked up once in the last 48 hours. No hard reset and all is viddy well, little brother, Viddy well.
Unsure if it was the IM+ update or not, since it locked up twice after the uninstall, but I will not be reinstalling the IM+ update. In the name of science, I will install the original version this afternoon and see what happens.
Most gracious thanks to all those who took time out to reply to this thread.
I can concur that 3rd party software running in the background is usually the culprit.
In my case, I'm having an on-going saga with Hebrew localization bought from P.D.A.C. If I put the device to "sleep", with the email program set to download every 15 minutes (via wifi - no SIM installed), I come back to find a device that will turn on when the power button is pressed (a bit longer than usual), but then no response from any hardware button or screen - a soft reset via the hole in the back is the only way out.
I can in general say that the localization has other problems, like slowing the device down, and generally causing unpredictable hangs, but I'll save that for another thread.
To their credit, PDAC have taken a stab at trying to fix it, but since they don't have (and apparently don't intend to purchase) an HTC 7510 for testing, it's become a slow, hit-or-miss proposition.
One of the problems for gadget fiends like me who are not programmers is choosing a device that isn't massively popular - the support by third-party developers is not adequate. So here I find myself trying to learn how to fix what should work properly out-of-the-box.....and being frustrated by lack of background/knowledge.
-avi
Had this lockup problem since i received the device.
The other week in an attempt to fix this i have flashed to the latest 3.29 Rom from cmonex (thanks!) with ExtRom 3.29. As i have a Chinese x7510 version this ExtRom has fixed Opera text block problem, but still had constant lockup after putting unit into sleep mode.
Yesterday, i tried option 'Do not lock buttons' in Key Lock under Settings. Since I have not had one single lockup! Even having in sleep overnight, hit power button and up pops today screen. Normally i would have to soft reset.
This is what i have done so far. I'll have to start installing apps and see how it goes...
G'day from LA
Hi AvantX,
Another Aussie here, but living in LA for the last 7 years.
I loaded cmonex's hard SPL on to my x7510 some time ago, but so far I've been loathe to load an other ROM on to my x7510 as I have been unclear on the return path to the stock rom in the evet of a mishap. I've been hoping to see some ROM development on this forum similar to Kaiser & TyTN but so far we have not seen too much, other than the promise of AP4 amd MichyPrima's ROM somewhen.
Can you show here some screen shots of the 3.29 ROM? Does it look the same as the stock ROM and how does it run compared to the stock ROM? The stock ROM is 3.27.405.3 - is 3.29 an improvement? Does loading 3.29 affect the radio - mine is 1.58.
Thanks mate in advance.
Not sure if anyone has had this problem but I'm seeing some really odd issues, sometimes the screen starts moving really quick almost like flickering but from left to right as if I'm holding finger on the screen and moving it extremely fast. Sometimes it seems like touch screen doesn't work until I hit power and menu right after, also randomly core apps would crash.
I'm on jf1.42 rc33.
are you using any themes? I've encountered similar problems, but only after flashing multiple themes without wiping. i've never had any problems after a fresh wipe and reflash of JF 1.1*.
tchort said:
Not sure if anyone has had this problem but I'm seeing some really odd issues, sometimes the screen starts moving really quick almost like flickering but from left to right as if I'm holding finger on the screen and moving it extremely fast. Sometimes it seems like touch screen doesn't work until I hit power and menu right after, also randomly core apps would crash.
I'm on jf1.42 rc33.
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i'm having similar problems but wasn't sure if something i did screwed it up, i was getting random core apps crashing on 1.41 RC33 and to test a script i wrote and an app made by another i completely wiped every thing to where the phone wouldn't start at all, i achieved this with adb shell wipe all
i wouldn't suggest doing that unless you have an update.zip waiting to be flashed to your phone, i put the phone back to warrenty standards and then started EVERYTHING all over so i could test the things i wanted to. when i finished testing i rooted and put 1.42 on and it seemed a little better all day until it popped up and phone process, settings, and core all three crashed at the same time about 30 minutes ago. my flash was 100% clean as there was nothing on the phone at all including OS, i completely wiped the system partition and data and refused to flash my nandroid back up since i didn't want the same problems. i hope someone else knows what's going on and we can fix this
I went from stock rc 30, rooted, JF RC 30, Themes (many), RC 33,JF ADP 1.1, then back to RC 33.
I had an issue of contacts not syncing, and the import contacts from sim caused a core force close.
So i did a freash install of JF 1.43 RC33 and it worked again. No screen problems but I did have a few core apps force closing. It hasnt happened since my last install of RC 33. Im running a modified theme now, my own with very little changes.
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are you using any themes? I've encountered similar problems, but only after flashing multiple themes without wiping. i've never had any problems after a fresh wipe and reflash of JF 1.1*.
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No themes, if I do a wipe, what happens with paid apps that I have installed does anyone know?
Looks like it was the related to multi touch, after doing another wipe and installing a build with out multi touch the problem went away no more rapid screen movement and apps are not crashing
Hello,
Here is my issue, i have the latest TAEL Sense ROM from December. My phone just hard reset when i put it on charge while it's powered ON. This has happen on 3 occasions and does not occur when the phone is OFF and charging.
Here is what happenned the last time. Battery was low, just plugged the phone in for charging, came by after 1 hour and saw a miss called, tried to get to the call history screen, but impossible, HTC Touch Sense was not responding.
I was able to get to the windows 6.5 application menu while using the HOME button. Then I used the reset shortcut to reboot the mobile.
Took a long time to reboot(Normal boot screen) and then gave me the Stylus configuration screen, and booted up again to configure TAEL sense rom.
Then everyting gone, contacts messages,... like a fresh HARD RESET...
Does anybody have a clue why this happen ?
Could there be some issue with my battery charger ? or USB Cable ?
Or is this a ROM related issue.
Thanks for your feedback on this one.
thanks for the heads up, man. pretty much the same as in my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613653
and i did forget to mention that both times it hard-resat itself, it was charging as well.
update: it resat itself when i got to work this morning, after being on charge all night.
same here 2 month ago with new Romeos: HR while charging...
did you solve it? any patterns?
Charging successful when mobile is OFF
Last night, i put my mobile on charge all night while it was switched off. when i booted it this morning, everything seems working fine... no resets...
There might be something going on with some applications that are installed on the mobile ?
all i had: calendar and contacts backup. t-mobile mms size fix cab, fuze keyboard fix cab. try leaving it on while charging!
disabled touch flo, put it on charge - nothing so far.
no resets so far - disabled the touch flo. any other feedback?
never mind: put it on charge earlier today and once i opened the keyboard the theme layout changed to stock, so i assume it's going to hard-reset once again
2 resets in one day
There has been 2 resets, yesterday night... i have tried to disabled HTC Sense and install Mobile Shell. but the OS was really unstable and when i rebooted was already hard reset... i wasn't charging the phone... seem to me, that this is an issue at the windows mobile 6.5 level... i'll post a link on Tael Roms page, maybe other persons have the same issue.
flashed back to stock 6.1 - no problems so far.
I've had the exact same problem, but with my Touch Pro 2. I started a thread here, but got no replies so far. I'm wondering if something in custom ROMs is causing this.
that's what it looks like. since reverting back to stock 6.1 no resets whatsoever. knock.knock.knock.