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Is it possible to relocate the lower taskbar where the bluetooth/running program icons sit??
I want to move it down into the softkey position as i have found a program to disable this from this site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27331&highlight=16
From Buzzdev.net it seems that the lower taskbar is in fact HHTaskbar and on searching the registry for this please see image below.
I think it must be controlled by a registry setting no?? any ideas?
Registry seems to point to /windows/shell32.exe
anybody able to look into this file?? maybe something in there, something must instruct the taskbar to appear at that exact location so hopefully it can be moved?!
Images below show my screen current and my screen when taskbar activated
Thank you for taking time to read this.
Darren_Bridgeland: there is another program out to hide the tray, but I forget what it's called. I'll be releasing an update of VJToggleToday as soon as I can finish off a few things on it. Hopefully be working on it this weekend... but I say that every week
This is an issue you guys need to think about though:
- hiding the tray is fine, but consider that when we do need access to the Tray, which occassionally we do, would you like it as an overlay as you have it now, or revert all of the changes made by VJToggleTodayWM5, which will optionally be:
- toggle tray
- shrink start bar (top)
- shrink soft buttons (bottom)
- expand Today screen
I future version of VJToggleToday will do some more funky stuff with the Tray, but for now, we need to consider - should I hide the tray/unhide and revert all changes, or hide/overlay similar to the current "feature" in the old WM2003 version you're using.
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Thank you for answering so quickly vijay555 I was just looking at your personal website, great work your doing there
I absolutely love the clean look your togglenew program has given my device but unfortunately I agree that the system tray is needed.
All im hoping for is a way to relocate the tray into the old 'new menu' position at the bottom underneath Ilauncher in my screenshot. I can then reduce pocketbreeze size and away i go lol
Is this possible?
But if I mush the tray down to where the soft keys would be, what about the sofkeys?
Relocate the tray above the soft keys?
VJToggleToday works on relatively simple ideas, but the permuations are the pain of it - if I shrink the Start bar, I have to account for it in the Today screen, the soft buttons and the Tray. If I hide the tray, I have to account for it likewise. However, if I don't hide the tray? If I don't shrink the SoftButtons? Und so weiter.
VJToggleToday is going to need a config dialog I think. And a clear head to program stuff like tray toggling. The basic code is done though, I hope. I haven't looked at it for a while - so busy on VJCandela cross compatibility and something else - old, but new, coming soon :wink:
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If you look at my screenshots I currently have my screen full, Ilauncher is sitting right at the bottom where the softkeys WOULD BE. Im asking for the tray to be INSTEAD of the softkeys (so to be EXACT the tray needs to be located 26pixels lower than its usual postion). Then I can reduce pocketbreeze by 26 pixels.
At the moment the tray cuts right through Ilauncher as Ilauncher is sitting in the tray & softkey position.
Is this clearer??
I understand that Darren.
In my WM5 screenshot, I've minimised the soft keys to 2 pixels rather then remove them completely, on the basis that you might still want to tap on them with the stylus (I do this with my Magician's start bar (top), which is minimised to 2 pixels and then overlayed with a 24 pixel PhoneAlarm skin
However, if you KNOW you will not need this, ie only use the hard keys to access the softmenu, then I can make it an option to entirely remove the softkeys (however - the SIP icon overlay still seems to enjoy popping up. I'll investigate that later).
I'm intending to make it optional to configure the size of the softkeys and start menu, from 26 pix to 0. Maybe make it bigger then 26 pix for VGA screens? That might be cool.
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That would be a good feature to be able to configure the menu's size. So just out of interest the togglenew program, does that disable the softkeys or shrink them? Ive remade my wallpaper to be 26 pixels large and nothing appears clickable, I assumed it completely disabled them (think im getting confused lol)
Trouble is even if you disable/shrink softkeys how will you move the system tray to the bottom of the screen??
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray, so you'll need to find the code that currently locates it and alter the code perminantly no??
You're using the old VJToggleToday which is Wm2003. That's hardcoded to hide the New menu on Wm2003, and by accident the soft keys on Wm5. But for the Wm5 it's more sophisticated internally (hence then new WM2003 version as well, which will be more foolproof).
The new version will permit resizing of the soft keys, and I guess the start menu (for those who use start bar replacements).
Moving the Tray is no problem. On my WM2003 I used to use it like this:
VJHideStart
To permit hiding it, but bringing it back optionally. Future versions of VJToggleTodayWM5 will (hopefully) have similar options.
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray
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That's all part of the difficulties involved in writing it. There are lots of contingencies to take into account.
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wow how did you move the tray?? was it hard/easy?
could i manage it??
Sure you could manage it, but through code. PM me if you want to discuss.
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You're using the old VJToggleToday which is Wm2003. That's hardcoded to hide the New menu on Wm2003, and by accident the soft keys on Wm5. But for the Wm5 it's more sophisticated internally (hence then new WM2003 version as well, which will be more foolproof).
The new version will permit resizing of the soft keys, and I guess the start menu (for those who use start bar replacements).
Moving the Tray is no problem. On my WM2003 I used to use it like this:
VJHideStart
To permit hiding it, but bringing it back optionally. Future versions of VJToggleTodayWM5 will (hopefully) have similar options.
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray
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That's all part of the difficulties involved in writing it. There are lots of contingencies to take into account.
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Is there any way to have the latest beta version of VJToggleTodayWM5 ? Thanks in advance.
Not really jolas: if it was ready to release, I'd release it, but I've been too tied up to work on it for a while. I'll try to have a look at this and a couple of other apps this weekend... I'm also releasing a couple of other new-ish things this weekend, so busy busy
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Thanks for your reply vijay555. Please, try to release this app, it will be very usefull for me and a lot of other people.
Hope this weekend it a positive and productive one for you Vijay and cant wait to see the results :wink:
Hope to recieve a PM about the coding, but will understand if your trying to sort the program instead.
Take Care
Any news about VJToggleTodayWM5 ???
its next on vijay's priority list, hes just finished a couple of other programs. Hopefully we'll start seeing some progress over the next week or 2
Thanks Darren. See you're posting from Buzzdev!
Yes, as I've been saying for a while, my developments tend to dovetail together. I finally got a chance to do some work on VJFullscreenTSC this weekend, which I hope finally works properly. It's had minimal testing but it worked fine on my VGA universal.
But from there I learnt a couple of lessons I needed to bring back to VJToggleToday. It strikes me that this app should not be too hard to finish now. That's no promise - I've had some very concerning news recently about Vijay555.1, my little baby who is on his way. So as I'm sure you'll all understand, family priorities
But certainly, next on my plate is VJToggleToday, finally. And research has given way to a couple of new ideas that should also help a few left handed chaps out. But one app at a time...
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ooh I hope vijay 555.1 is ok. Ive just had a little boy 3 days ago so good luck with that.
My 2 year old was a very traumatic pregnancy and first 15months of life so I wish you all the best
Many thanks Darren. News could be better on Vijay555.1, but it could be worse. All the best to your little one! Now the real hard work begins. I must be the only guy looking forward to having an excuse to be up at night, with nothing to do but program and look at the kid..
I'm only managing an hour or two coding on weekdays, and that's slow progress, barely one app to look at per night.
Yesterday was VJFullscreenTSC again (check out the new screenshots), but VJToggleToday is certainly next. I'm resisting VJTrayLaunch, which I also have some ideas for...
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Please give us a beta!!!
Is any beta of VJToggleTodayWM5 ready to be releasead? Please, give us something test!
Hi, I am interested in the taskbar layout seen in the screenshot below.
Does anyone know what program it is ?
Looks like it might be usefull & I would like to try it but first I need the name so I can find out more.
Many thanks.
It's some of my voodoo, PhoneAlarm running a custom skin coupled with my VJToggleToday (I or II, depending on your OS) to map it as a replacement start bar.
All the gubbins are available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27331&highlight=vjtoggletoday
That particular screenshot is shown running my VJTodayButton, used for quick toggle access to the Today screen.
Here's another screenshot:
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Thanks vijay555
Voodoo.....
Was wondering my MDAIII feels like its got needles sticking out of it.
For some reason, when writing that post, I was thinking about Monkey Island and the voodoo lady/rubber chicken. Don't know why.
Although most of my programming requires the sacrificing of farmyard animals
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vijay555, doesn't your phone crawl to a halt with all those things on your today screen? (like ages waking from standby, switching to today screen etc)
Cheers
Si
Mudstuffin: in the screenshow, I'm running PhoneAlarm with my skin, at the top (using VJToggleToday to remove the softkeys and the start bar at the top), then AlarmToday with some custom hacks, weather plugin, can't remember which, VJTodaySpacer, and finally VJEphemeris.
So it's not many today plugins, just 4 (not including VJTodaySpacer).
VJEphemeris has a lot of functionality, but it's highly optimised so it doesn't use the resources of say 5 different today plugins - it replaces my quotes plugin, claunch, a battery meter, VJAudioNotes = a plugin I wrote to show my current operator and telephone number (because I use a dual sim), incoming SMS, missed calls, and a huge stonking analog clock/alarm indicator/calendar shortcut. The layour is optimised for right handed thumb usage.
All in, it works extremely well. I suggest you set up your system efficiently first, make a backup, and then try the various today plugins you want. Don't go for bells and whistles, stick with efficient and effective. This setup works very well for me; I like the idea of Wisbar etc, but find that I can do most of what I need one handed with this setup. That's paramount for me.
I've never had problems of the system slowing down or running out of resources, although I use VJOkButt to close running apps, so the only thing ever running is one app, the Phone, and Today.
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vijay555 said:
It's some of my voodoo, PhoneAlarm running a custom skin coupled with my VJToggleToday (I or II, depending on your OS) to map it as a replacement start bar.
All the gubbins are available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27331&highlight=vjtoggletoday
That particular screenshot is shown running my VJTodayButton, used for quick toggle access to the Today screen.
Here's another screenshot:
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vijay, that quotes today plugin, what is it called?. it looks nice.. can i download it somewhere?
The quotes plugin is part of VJEphemeris, but it's based on code for VJQOTD, which is based on QOTD.
QOTD is open source, google for it, VJQOTD is unreleased although I make it available if asked, and VJEphemeris is unreleased. The VJEphemeris version is much improved/re-written, self resizing according to quote size etc and quote navigation etc.
You can see VJQOTD at the bottom of this (old) screenshot:
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thanx vijay
found this one, QOTD 1.5 Copyright 2001-2003, priebesoft
will try it later today
well .that one from pribesoft didnt work so well, doesnt update everyday
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
I really like it. It gives me access to what I need to see when I glance at the screen (except tasks) and finger-touch access to programs.
It does screw up maybe once a day though requiring a soft reset. I applied the mods recommended and they made my TP freeze a lot so I changed them back to default.
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
Some people are just afraid of change. As there still millions of windows 98 users out there. LMAO, people need to move with the times
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
I like Touchflo3d, but I missed my usual today screen setup.
The easy answer is to use secondtoday, that way I get the best of both worlds, one tap on the screen switches between them.
Gigs said:
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
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Pocket Plus sound like exactly what I need!
nuke1 said:
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
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Bunk = bad and handy gooey is handy GUI or handy Graphical User Interface
migsims said:
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
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maybe thats why I'm having so much trouble with the touch screen. I tap something,,,, wait 5 seconds,,, tap again,,,, wait 6 seconds then give up and get out the stylus. Maybe I should re-enable touchflo to stop this problem
surur said:
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
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Thats interesting. Thanks for the link. Maybe I should give touchflo 3D a another shot.
chetmichaels said:
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
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Me too. Thats why I copied and pasted the links that are in folders within the program folder back up to the program folder. I like having everything in 1 spot. I wish it was alphabetized though.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Performance wasn't really the issue for me. It just seemed like pointless eye candy.
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Care to share those kareem?
jamespaulritter said:
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
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Definitely NOT at all. We must be on different spectrum of the universe. I like TF3D a great deal, make navigating the phone intuitive and seamless. It is just you.
Without TF3D, my Sprint TP would just be any other run of the mill Win Mobile big screen phone. My 39 cents.
TF3D is totally kickass! I love it for everything. Althought I do wish they had the map intergration that they have in TF2D. I also want the stocks tab and am waiting for the hd manilla to be perfected . Other than that, the original htc theme, with q-style font, my personalized background, tweaks from diamond config, and stock fuze rom, it runs pretty darm fast. Only did a soft reset once and that waas because I was attempting to run a qvga application and it crashed.
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James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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I agree. Let's not turn into a bunch of iPhone cattle. They stick to their phones like cult even when plagued with numerous problems.
Get SPB mobile. It blows TFTD out of the water.
dgduris said:
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
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I didn't know the Lord makes phones
Back to the subject, it's all a personal preference. I think it's great, and makes the phone a lot more fun and a little easier to use, you don't, but nobody is right or wrong on this one.
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They are stickied in the Raphael subforum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
BTW I have been using TFL3D since when I got my TP in August. SPB Shell seems outdated now but I have it installed anyway, accessible via Second Today
Vito has finally released Winterface 1.3 mobile shell, with a second skin and full screen toggle. See here: Vito Winterface 1.3 Released
wow - I like this a lot - the only minor quibble is that the email notification does not seem to work.
I've had that before too. It was listed as fixed for this release. Did you send it to support yet?
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I've had that before too. It was listed as fixed for this release. Did you send it to support yet?
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I was a good boy and did so.
Hopefully they'll fix it so - I really like this program.
I dnt like it. Everyone is trying too hard to be like iphone. I love windows interface "we dont want to be iphone. We want to be different n better"
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I dnt like it. Everyone is trying too hard to be like iphone. I love windows interface "we dont want to be iphone. We want to be different n better"
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I doubt that was the thinking behind it as the current windows interface was designed about eight years before the iphone appeared...
I just think it's a lot simpler - a grid is the ideal format for a phone.
Unfortunately this version of Winterface seems to have introduced a host of new bugs. I've used it since v1.0 and each release has been fairly stable for me, this one not at all. Crashes, strange bugs limiting the number of icons per screen and icons randomly rearranging on restart, quirks with the lock/unlock feature... all experienced after a hard reset and not an update. Pretty bad, to the point I pulled it off my device until the bugs get quashed (I made my bug reports and was informed v1.3.1 is already underway). Also the new bright skin uses h-u-g-e buttons/icons and really limits usability in comparison to the dark skin.
Going back to 1.2 for now
Be aware that if you load 1.3 and take a look at the new white skin with the new huge buttons your buttons and screens will be rearranged. If you go back to the black skin they will NOT go back to the way you had them
email notification and vm notification seemed to be cross linked. Constant errors and program crashes. For the new skin and a few minor new features it is not worth the time to install.
I hate that whenever you open a program and then close it it closes winterface as well. I also don't like that you cannot change which programs are opened when hitting button (like calendar opening thumbcal or hitting the clock and open gAlarm) And When you add programs the icon styles never match (with any version of winterface)
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I hate that whenever you open a program and then close it it closes winterface as well. I also don't like that you cannot change which programs are opened when hitting button (like calendar opening thumbcal or hitting the clock and open gAlarm) And When you add programs the icon styles never match (with any version of winterface)
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To get Winterface back when you are viewing a different program, you don't have to close it but press Ok-button instead. This is the way Windows Mobile works. Anyway, you have that big Winterface button on your today screen to return to Winterface in a split second.
The programs launched by those buttons is determined by the default programs registered in your device I believe. When I use AgendaOne and set it as the default calendar program, this is the one that will show up when I tap the Calendar button.
I've been skinning my Winterface since version 1.2 thanks to the skins posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455254
I have been pushing for a "top bar" displaying notifications, time, signal, etc for awhile so I was excited to hear about the 1.3 release, however I think VITO failed by reducing the number of icons/page when the top bar is displayed rather than resizing them or squeezing them together a bit. Even though I very much wanted the top bar, I am forced to continue to use Winterface in full screen mode because of the poor allocation of screen space when the top bar is displayed.
oVan said:
The programs launched by those buttons is determined by the default programs registered in your device I believe. When I use AgendaOne and set it as the default calendar program, this is the one that will show up when I tap the Calendar button.
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Hey oVan - are you saying that when you click the interactive calendar icon (the one that shows the current date and how many appts you have) that you got it to open AgendaOne from its popup screen? I've been trying to get this icon to open ThumbCal and have had no luck at all.
I've set Thumbcal as default calendar, changed the calendar.lnk in the start menu to launch Thumbcal, created a calendar.exe (using mortscript) that launches thumbcal and put that in the Windows folder all with no luck.
Can you please confirm you have this functionality because I didn't think this was possible?
Thanks
Winterface freezes
Hi,
I try to use Winterface 1.3 in my HTC Wizard, but it was keep freezing my phone. I had to reset my phone at least 3 times everyday. I decided to remove 1.3 version and put the version 1.2 back and it's been working fine. Did anybody else experienced the same problem?
So I'm curious about looks vs. functionality
Each one of my little drawings here satisfy both.
First off, I apologize for being a retard and using cam scanner to make these images sideways (although they were right side up originally).
Seeing as I can't attach images directly from my phone onto this site, I had to email them to myself, download them and then re attach.
Also another retard thing, I made a home button (app) thing on both of them even though there is a physical one on the phone itself.
Have a look
Also clarify with me which is which (theme or ROM).
How hard is it to design/engineer this and actually have everything function properly?
Theme/ROM 1
Them/ROM
it looks like you want to pull the whole status bar to the bottom of your phone. i didnt think you could just move that stuff around. a Dev would would be able to give u a yes or no.
im leaning more towards a theme than a Rom. but you can only theme what the Rom has. and NO rom has that, that i know of. so its like a combination of both.
Those drawings appear to be a significant layout overhaul, a la Sense and Touchwiz
It would either be:
1) a full-blown ROM
2) A replacement for a number of system apps (but could be an add-on), at the very least the launcher and probably the lockscreen
More than just basic theming, that's for sure.
Well it certainly gives the phone a neater, "in my opinion more efficient" functionality.
The one with the radial app dial, that spins, (you guys probably could tell that already) can fit either 7 or 8 apps.
When you press the home button the phone app automatically aligns directly above the said home button (non physical assuming there are 7 apps not 8).
The apps that go on the radial thing-a-ma-jig are your primary apps.
However since that non-physical home button is not needed, then the phone would be in the center or perhaps you'd like the browser.
In any case whichever app you use most extensively (ie #1).
I certainly cannot do any of the ROM creating but I was hoping to spark interest with the ones who are able to do so with ease.
The one with the triangle side bars (next image) these have 1-3 icons on them, when you tap that icon the first time a box will come up over lapping everything else in the background (or with slight opacity) and that gives you more detail rather than just an icon.
I think it would be neat as hell if this was done.
So is it like, theme = aesthetics ; rom = function
In this case I'd like to do both.
Also the capability to assign any app in that 7-8 slot (radial) would also be nice.
Perhaps done through the command prompt.
This is a feature I picked up from a blackberry (ability to assign any icon to a specific design/theme).
Thanks for the interest, I'm going to try and fix the orientation.
Some of what you're looking to do (the home-dial concept) may be doable without any ROM development at all - after all, plenty of launchers are installable as apps and what you're describing there is a launcher concept.
Notification bar moving could be a lot harder though.
FYI I'm a kernel guy not an app developer, so I can't help you much other than say that I'm fairly certain one of the features you want to implement can be done as a launcher app for any ROM.
Alright alright, we're sifting through sonething here.
I have very little knowledge od 'kernel' 'launchable' 'rom' as far as developing them goes. Are there tutorials ? (search bar probably)
Thanks for your contributions
What about color (borders keys etc)
Nice drawings man
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Hey thanks DevilDogAK
It's one thing to draw the idea by hand but to actually create it with code...
That's where the tires hit the road one might say.
I need to do some reading to get an idea of what I have to accomplish.
Thanks for the interest, as always it starts with a dream
I'll let you guys know whats up when I actually get to the point of dev
But team work goes a long way (hint hint hint)
sweet... great concept imo, & hey, cyanogen started with just a concept. wish i knew more to help you out, but we're with you in spirit nice drawings too lol
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About the launcher comment, does having two mean more computing power needed to run the first and second launcher or can I just do one primary launcher?
If I can just move things around, what about putting some notification components under the wheel? Components such as the wifi toggle and the data image or perhaps the data and battery.
Anyone smart enough to do that probably isn't dicking around on XDA. You never know though.
Well... I'm here
Haha just kidding, I do wish somebody with some experience knowledge (ie developer of Serendipity etc... ) a man can dream... a man can dream.