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What's so great about WM6?

Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma

WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...

Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma

Video call isn't working yet.

Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....

Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256

Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!

@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma

What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.

why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx

Is WM6 Titanium ver2 or ver3 Actually out of test phase yet

Hey guys,
Couple of questions here... first i know ( i just realized) the CDMA version of the wizard is the apache. DOes that mean the wm6 roms for wizard will run on the apache? and second are any of the titanium wm6 roms complete, i.e. out of testing as i have been following threads and none inform me of the answers to these questions.

last I heard, no known working version of wm6 for apache. its actually a different device all together. I have a few friends who have been bugging me to try and get it for them, but I aint messin up their devices. so at the moment only info is in the apache section.

Yes, The titanium rom WM6Ti2 was released (no longer in testing phase) but like NTS said, it's not going to work on your device.

Thanx...
Well that's good. the apache isn't mine, it's my old man's!!! Since joining up here I've been a bit........Naughty. i've been demolishing the IPhone name along with any other that doesn't :
(1)work or is worth the money spent on plastic.
(2) isn't an advised choice by large vote here
(3) carries apples rediculous idea that just because they make good mp3 players they make good phones.

OK I got the titanium and she is beautiful!!!!....BUT...
i got 2 questions for ya.
first how do you change what the HTC home icons relate to and second is there a way to download the addons for MMS and the newer version of the x-button?

You my friend have nothing short of talent.
Well i must say that even though you removed the MMS and WMP it is an awesome ROM! i found and loaded the MMS and it still didn't take anything of my storage and no loss in speed. You have indeed created a very fast rom. One problem though...where can i get the cab file for windows media mobile as i am not too fond of the HTC audio manager?

Upgrade question?

Hi all.
I'm active in the HTC Touch forum and have installed custom ROM's on my device many times. However, I would like to upgrade my wife's C600 to the new WM6.1 (I'm currently running a cooked version on my Touch).
Do I need to upgrade to WM6 first, or can I go straight to WM6.1? (The device is still running original WM5 ROM from Orange UK).
Any advice would be much appreciated, thank you

Read my guide

That's a great guide. Thanks very much.
Would you recommend waiting for a more 'bug free' WM6.1, or is the version in your guide quite usable? I waited for about a month after the first WM6.1 release before flashing for my HTC Touch, and I'm well pleased with it. I do like the look of the standard version for smartphone, that's why I want to flash it.
Cheers

the version available is very bug free.
at least in my opinion. i have been using 6.1 on a hurricane for the last week and it works perfectly.
so not only is the 6.1 bug free, it also works on hurricane.
i do have to say that i am only using the standard phone functions as sms, making calls, bluetooth, mp3 player. and some apps: navigation, ebook reader etc.

Recieved a New (secondhand) HTC Cruise..

Hiya's, I found this site while looking up info on the HTC cruise as I have just received a hand-me-down Cruise from a friend (had a very old nokia..). This is a major upgrade for me (it has a 2 camera's unlike my nokia which has none). I am keen to get the most use from the phone as possible and at the moment it seems to be going ok but having read a couple of the forum messages it seems that there are various upgrades that can make it a better phone.
I have been accused of being a semi-ludite when it comes to using technology so would appreciate any advice on what can be upgraded as far as the operating system and other programs are concerned. I have used the CoPilot program this morning and think is is the greatest thing since individually sliced and packaged cheese..
The settings on the phone indicate it is ROM 1.26.710.1 WWE (date 12/17/2007), Radio Version 1.58.21.23 and Protocol Version 25.65.30.04H.
If any advice is forthcoming, please keep things as simple as possible or I will have to get one of my neighbors kids to come over and explain..
Cheers
Ian

Welcome to the wonderful world of a touchscreen windows mobile device.
Of course there are a lot of things you can improve, thousands of programs are waiting to be installed and so on.
IMHO the most important thing is: If you are satisfied with your current system DO NOT change it. If everything is running smooth there is no need to flash a new operating system or radio. If you notice slowdowns during using the device or if the radio in your area is not running perfect you should flash the latest upgrade from HTC. They are offering WM 6.1 (WM = windows mobile, the operating system) and a new radio. Its very easy to flash but you will loose all your data on the device.
If you don't like your today screen, you can check some replacements, Mobile Shell is one of it:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell
And if you like this shell you can change its look with upgrades like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3904948&postcount=2513
Of course you can flash one of the Roms created by one of the devs. You will find an overview here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521961
But you should be aware that many of these roms are using stuff from other devices like Manilla, this might cause problems. And you have to be very careful if flash a self created rom, its not that easy like flashing an original HTC rom.
Last but not least you have to think about the way you want to use your device. If you just need a phone you need nothing else. If you want to read ebooks like wikipedia you need a reader and so on. Here you can find tons of programs for your device:
http://www.handango.com/homepage/Homepage.jsp?storeId=2218
You will also find a lot of freeware apps here:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
And a very important thing is: Backup your device often if you are trying different applications, you are having a windows device

For a list of recommended software check my signature.
All are freeware except iGO, and easily found on this forums (or links from here lead to authors pages).
And welcome to Polaris owners club...

Thanks very much for the replies..
It seems to be going ok at the moment. I am not too sure whether it is slow or not (nothing to compare..) but opening an application only takes a couple of seconds so I am happy with that. I have been using it primarily as a phone (of course) but have been using the camera like mad. I even made one of my friends give me a video call..very cool...I have tried to use the voice commander application but it doesn't seem to want to do anything and eventually just says "Goodbye" and closes. I am going to look at the list of applications at some of the website that are list above and see what is available.
Cheers and thanks again..
IJ

Personal experiences with cooked ROMs for Uni

Hi there!
This is my first post on the forum but I'm registered for some time ago and was mainly the observer. 'till now, I had nothing to write that it's not already written and explained (I'm not sure if this kind of post exists as well) but consider this as my small contribution to this community.
First I must say that I'm thrilled to know that Uni "scene" is so strong and even if the device is somewhat old, you guys are still cooking new ROMs and seems like you'll never stop exploring. Honestly, if I find some spare time during holidays, I'll do my best to join the scene and to learn all the important stuff so I can cook some myself.
And now, let's get to the point.
I've had 'till now various WM devices running on various platforms but some things were always constant like: SRS WoW HD (I'm oftenly in noisy environments (I'm sound engineer) so this one is MUST HAVE for me), SPB Mobile Shell (sorry but I have to feed my cosmetic hunger ), Total Commander (the first thing I start on my desktop computer), Nitrogen (used for listening music on the move), Garmin XT (needed for frequent travel needs) and few other mainly cosmetic things.
Following is the respective order of ROMs I've installed, tested and run for some time and all of the pros and cons:
Ranju v7.6
My device came with this ROM (since bought used) which I found pretty slow. SPB MS waas oftenly frozen and/or stucked with error so I decided to try out some other ROMs which led me to xda-developers forum and the famous Tomal ROMs.
Tomal v8.9 REGULAR
Downloaded, installed and was like "WOW!!! This guy is SERIOUS!"
Started to install my usual stuff and everything was flawless until i tried to install SRS WoW HD. Installed one version - not working (no sound at all), installed second version - working but when device go to sleep mode it's impossible to wake it up without soft-resetting the device. Did the hard-reset and everything was fine again but I realized that SRS won't work on this ROM (if I've read the thread I'd known that before trying - sorry for the ignorance). Other than that - GREAT ROM!
Tomal v10 64MB
I knew that the Uni is capable of running the 6.5 platform so I downloaded and installed this one, truely hoping that it will run now SRS thing (again, if I've read the thread, I would know that it won't). Installed all the bells and whistles I need and found out that my Uni is running awfully slow having about 3-4 megs of free RAM after just a couple of minutes running. It started to change ringtones by itself, when people tried to call me I was unavailable and even if they could reach me I was oftenly unable to answwer the call. Yes I know: it's completely my fault (installed many RAM hungry - background running apps).
Tomal v12 64MB
I thought "if this ROM really looks like it was shown on pics, I don't have to install SPB MS". Downloaded, installed, was "WOW!!!" again but after few hours of using it (haven't installed none of the 3rd party software) I was
It got stucked like the previous version running with awfully low free RAM. And, this one also, couldn't run SRS WoW HD.
Beasty & Laurentius 2.09.01
Saw the preview pics and thought "why not? Let's try..." Downloaded, Installed, added all of my apps and it was still OK. Running OK, no problems installing any of software. Fair enough. But then I started SMSing with one of my clients and realized how much I miss SMS threading and finger scrolling... That was it... time to find something else...
At this point I was fairly desperate thinking that something's definitely wrong with me. I thought I'd never find ROM that suits my needs but I continued browsing, searching, reading and downloading.
Finally I've changed the approach and started hunting for some light/vanilla ROM running on 6.1 platform.
nk 21055 Vanilla (I don't remember who the chef was... sorry)
Found this ROM, saw specs and read the experiences. Fair enough to try. Downloaded, installed, running OK but missing so much stuff I've used to have. Took me an age to install and configure everything but finally I did it and started growing roots on this ROM.
After some time, while trying to change (first) bootsplash, my Uni was stuck at the bootloader so I had to run MTTY to fix things and to reflash. Installed this ROM again and then realized how much time I have to spend to get it back as it was be. Gave up.
P.S.: network setup was also pain in the ass since this ROM was the only one I've tried without settings and parameters for my network so each time I did soft-reset I had an alert to have to set network parameters myself and it continued doing so even after I've set all of the parameters.
Luca16thebig 2.0.5 REGULAR 64MB
Great ROM. Even if I know it's the 6.1 it features all the thing I need from 6.5 but again, the lack of RAM made me reflash although everything worked fine.
Luca16thebig 2.0.5 VANILLA 64MB
Installed, added all of my apps I need, looking good, running smooth, no problems so far. Started "growing roots" on this one. It seems that I finally found a compromise between 6.1 and 6.5 in this one. All of the 3rd party software runs smoothly and flawless and the RAM amount is about 15 megs all the time (with SPB MS and other things running in background).
At the end I must say one big, fat THANK YOU to all of the chefs (namely: Tomal, Luca, Ranju, Beasty, Laurentius, Luca) and everyone else of the xda-developers community. This is the most useful place for all of my exploration of WM. Sometimes it's really hard to understand what some smart people have to say but my english also sucks so I understand that and trying hard to understand everything you guys say.
Keep up the good work and keep the scene alive!
CheerZ!

Check also this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525500
In my opinion the best 6.1 rom for our universal's (and believe me when I say that I have tested them all!)

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