Ok, I asked this in theDudes thread for this release but it wasnt answered.
My question is this. I have went from Rc33 to the 1.5 cupcake build. I absolutely love it. Now, on JF's build i was using the apps to sd mod. So currently I have been running all my apps on my sd. Now that I have updated to theDudes, all of my apps are there, but my phone storage is pretty low.
Are all my apps on my sdcard still? All of them are showing up on phone. how do i figure this out, and or get my phone memory back??
thanks guys!
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Anybody suggestions?
All i know is I did an update without a wipe comming from jfrc33 with apps to sd mod by lucidrem. Now all my apps show up, but my available memory is 33mb.
Did my apps somehow make it back to the phone memory? I read that after an install there should be 51mb free. So im missing almost 20.
Anyone?
If you went from RC33 to TheDude's you probably need to do a wipe and then flash TheDude. Then, create all of your symlinks again. YMMV, but that's what I've heard recommended. I had to wipe going form Haykuro's to TheDudes and those were both App2SD versions and both based on 1.5 --- I'd imagine you'd have issues coming from RC33 to 1.5 without wiping. But I could be wrong.
and 33MB seems like a lot of available room to me. I have my apps to SD and I have 26MB free on /data --- and that's after freshly clearing my browser cache. (I dont have my caches to SD yet.)
Well, oddly enough when i flashed and didnt do a wipe, my phone came back exactly as it was b4 it was powered off. I noticed that the memory was alot lower than what i was used to getting, but that could be the build.
Anyway, I wiped the device and had to do the whole initial setup and all.
From this point, how do i do apps to sd on this rom? can you point me to a link?
I know with jf's you run the commands through the telnet.. but i dont think thats the case here. I looked through the thread, but nothing.
look under the applications tab for dev tools. There is a terminal emulator there.
type su at the prompt then enter the commands. You may need to boot to the recovery console: (power down phone, press home + power until text appears, press alt + x) Once at the recovery console type the sym links to complete the transition.
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From this point, how do i do apps to sd on this rom? can you point me to a link?
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Search is your friend. http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Haykuro_Apps_to_SD
Make sure you have your card partitioned correctly first.
I went straight to Dude's .8 apps2sd nowipe from JF's RC33 and everything works perfectly but I only have 20mb free.
I've only moved apps, not data or cache, so that may be why. I'm seeing all these people claiming 50-70mb free though and it makes me jealous. I may be just imagining it, but it seems when I start getting down to this amount of free space, the phone tends to get a little laggy.
How Did You Guys Move Apps But Not Data/Cache? Lol Those Are The Easiest Things To Do On Your G1.
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How Did You Guys Move Apps But Not Data/Cache? Lol Those Are The Easiest Things To Do On Your G1.
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I had the cache moved to SD for a long time. Then at around 80 installed apps, internal space started to become a real problem. I got tired of managing apps on a daily basis, not to mention the dismal performance of the phone when memory gets tight.
So I broke down and bought a class 6 card and partitioned. I initially tried moving both apps and data. It was a disaster. I never could get to work...either it never thought the apps were installed, or the phone got stuck at the flashing android.
I tried scripts, and even making the symlinks by hand. Nothing helped. I think I must have done a factory wipe about a dozen times trying to get it to work.
I finally ended up just moving the apps, but not the data. That worked just fine and has been working ever since. I think people who are moving both must not have very many apps installed in the first place.
If space starts to get tight again, I'll try moving the caches. In the meantime, I'm hoping Google/T-Mo makes and effort to resolve the lack of internal memory another way.....other than expecting us to buy a new phone.
I'm keeping a sharp eye on NuviPhone....4GB internal memory...I'm sure it won't be long before someone has Android running on it.
I have the same issue. 19mb available after cleared cache. updated from lucid rem mod to .8 apps2sd. had about 42mb free before update. It showed me having 18mb free originally, not sure why i have 19 now, although I did uninstall powermanager since it doesn't work on Dudes build. but that should have been installed to sd?!
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I had the cache moved to SD for a long time. Then at around 80 installed apps, internal space started to become a real problem. I got tired of managing apps on a daily basis, not to mention the dismal performance of the phone when memory gets tight.
So I broke down and bought a class 6 card and partitioned. I initially tried moving both apps and data. It was a disaster. I never could get to work...either it never thought the apps were installed, or the phone got stuck at the flashing android.
I tried scripts, and even making the symlinks by hand. Nothing helped. I think I must have done a factory wipe about a dozen times trying to get it to work.
I finally ended up just moving the apps, but not the data. That worked just fine and has been working ever since. I think people who are moving both must not have very many apps installed in the first place.
If space starts to get tight again, I'll try moving the caches. In the meantime, I'm hoping Google/T-Mo makes and effort to resolve the lack of internal memory another way.....other than expecting us to buy a new phone.
I'm keeping a sharp eye on NuviPhone....4GB internal memory...I'm sure it won't be long before someone has Android running on it.
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Yeah I Get What Your Saying I Have Like 59MB Free But I Don't Have Apps Installed To SD-Card. I Would Love If T-Mobile/HTC Made An Update Where We Could Just Use Our Memory Card To Save Apps And Data/Cache Without Rooting It, That Would Be Insanely Crazy I Have A 8GB SD-Card But I'm Not Sure It It's Class 6 Dam, Bought It For Nothing.
I just moved dalvik-cache to sd card and went from 18mb available to 57mb in Dudes build.
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I actually ran into the same senario when I went from RC33 to theDudes cupcake! I went back and reflashed my phone and went back to the RC33 build with mod, think that was 1.42, then instead of using LuciREM apps to sdcard i tried using MarcusMaximus's. They both move apps to sdcard and both work great. I realized on MarcusMaximus's edition after running commands in the terminal we rooted from recovery and mounted in recovery as well. I guess that did the trick for me, so now i'm using theDudes cupcake on a apps to sd command from MarcusMaximus. Thanks to all these guys, they rock from JF, LuciREM, MarcusMaximus and theDude. Hope it helps!
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Yeah I Get What Your Saying I Have Like 59MB Free But I Don't Have Apps Installed To SD-Card. I Would Love If T-Mobile/HTC Made An Update Where We Could Just Use Our Memory Card To Save Apps And Data/Cache Without Rooting It, That Would Be Insanely Crazy I Have A 8GB SD-Card But I'm Not Sure It It's Class 6 Dam, Bought It For Nothing.
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I agree with u, but im wondering if it would be possible to install apps directly to the SD card, i hope google can do something to make it work. If tried allocating my apps to my sd card twice and i failed, the first time it seems i got success but after i while, applications like ahome forced me to close, which was not good, not only with this one, so then i thought maybe it would be good idea to reboot the phone so i turned off and when i turned on, it got stuck in the splash image, buu anyway i fixed by deleting my ext2 partition and rebooting my phone with another build...after a while i tried to make a partition using only the phone and running some command...and i got the same problem, so i guess allocating app2sd doesnt work for me .Anyway the internal space still is not a problem for me cause i have 71apps with 20Mb free..not so much i know....im still having JFv1.42 RC33 but i guess i will move to dude .8 build i heard a lot about that build...so seems to work good for now...but people are demanding many things from his build. What im happy is to be part of this community cause when i got the problem with my phone i couldn't use it for 2 days, i didn't know what to do..and was asking questions to everyone, but i guess everything is in this forum, we just have to read, i learned a lot thanks to the contributions of guy like you, that share experiences with their phones...thank u guys and of course to the developers that make android be better.
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i just rooted my phone to CM 6, using the one click root and ROM manger, which is wonderful. but i have a couple questions.
1. how does the apps2SD work? i know you can save the apps to the SD card, blah blah blah, but what does it mean? will the apps perform less now that they are moved on there?
2. CM6 is using the 2.2 source code, so its basically 2.2. now that i am updated to 2.2 are ALL the apps suppost to be visible in the market? i feel like im missing some of the ones that should be there.
3. sometimes when i reload my phone, or reboot it my apps seem to go crazy on me, mainly my widgets. how do i fix this?
1) apps2sd will help free up internal memory. some apps may lag a bit running from your sd card.
2) as far as the market goes, remember cm 6 is still a rc. i run it on the mytouch 1.2 and my wife has it on her mytouch. its stable enough for everyday use but ive ran into a few glitches as well.
3) explain some more please. what is crazy about them? lag? not loading?
Refering to this post Apps to SD, I have some doubts.
1. Is this similar to the 2GB inaccessible partition on Nexus S ?
2. Is that partition ext3 ?
3. Do apps get installed directly on that and I don't have to install apps on sd as explained in that post ever ?
4. If no, will creating partition and installing apps on it slow down the phone ?
I installed lots of apps from market yesterday so thinking of these things as I have read that installing many apps may slow down the phone.
please clarify my doubts
Have you gone to Settings, Applications and checked how much of your internal memory you're actually using? There's a little bar graph at the bottom of the first screen.
I've got over 130 apps installed and still have almost 600mb free. For most users, on the NS, app storage space isn't going to be a concern. We've got 1gb internal for that.
Also, many apps can be pushed to your sdcard without any hacks required.
The old school apps2sd involves repartioning your sdcard, formatting part of it ext4, then creating symlinks to move apps to the sdcard.
Seems like a lot of work unless you're really short of space already.
All partitions on the internal storage space are ext4 or yaffs2...no ext3 on the NS stock,
Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?
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Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?
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I wouldn't worry about it until it becomes a problem, if you know what I mean. If you install a lot of BIG game applications that don't let you move to sdcard from the Applications manager, you might start to run out of room, but I've only seen one person in this forum state that he was filling cramped, and he has 300+ apps, including large games if I recall correctly.
Having a bunch of apps installed should not slow down your phone just because they're installed.
If a bunch of them are active in the background either intentionally or not, that might cause some slow down, but it's just not a real problem on Android 2.2+ in my experience.
Android's memory intentionally loads apps up in advance so they're ready and waiting when you want to use them. They usually just sit there using zero cpu until you give them something to do. It is best to avoid TASK KILLERS, they will screw you up more than help you in general.
If you really feel the need to stop certain apps from being loaded automatically at the phone's discretion, there's an app called AutoStarts in the Market that lets you block apps from loading automatically. There are other apps like that one. They require you to be rooted to use them.
Everytime someone flashes a rom you have to go back and reload your apps.I use TitBu as do many. Why can't you load all your DL'd apps onto your external sd card so they survive the flash/reboot?
Pretty sure that you'd still have to reload the apps in the OS, much like installing Windows programs on a second hard drive/partition. They may still work, but they won't register for updates unless they're reinstalled in the OS.
That being said, you can move a lot of apps to the SD if you want to. Go to Settings > Applications, find the app and click on move to SD.
Some will not work if they're installed on the SD, though (Beautiful Widgets, for one).
Thanks.. Maybe I'll try moving TiBu to exsd.. If that works I won't have to d/l it before doing restores!
I usually don't bother as I only do ROM changes at home where I'm on Wifi. I make my backups, flash the new ROM, then install only TiBu from the Market and restore. Works like a charm (aside from all of the clicking I have to do with TiBu...)
I understand that for security reasons, google thinks phones should not have sdcards and has recently made changes to restrict how sdcards can be used on kitkat: KitKat and SD cards — what's fixed, what's broken and what's misunderstood
Motorola made some changes to allow some parts of some apps to be movable to sdcard. But this also has some problems. For example, if I replace the chrome icon in the quick launch area with firefox and firefox has been moved to the sdcard, the icon disappears on reboot because the partition apparently isn't mounted yet when it needs the icon. Apparently, they made some changes to the default launcher to compensate for this but because I'm using the google now launcher, the icons disappear.
I am getting ready to go through the process of unlocking my bootloader and rooting my phone which will, of course, wipe it and I get to reinstall all my apps and media. Once the phone is rooted, are there any options for moving apps to sdcard that work on 4.4.4 and beyond? In previous android versions, we used apps like link2sd and mount2sd but I assume these won't work on 4.4.4? One of my main motivations for rooting is being able to tweak min free so it doesn't kill and restart apps every time I switch between them. Another is being able to remove protected apps I don't need, like quickoffice - at least this will free up some internal memory!
How about cyanogenmod - does it have the same restrictions on what can be moved to the sdcard? It seems cyanogenmod is coming along but may still have some important issues to be resolved.
I bought my phone when they released the LTE model because it had the sdcard as well as the faster data. It seems that Motorola has solved the problem of some sdcards not working - probably by slowing down access to it to make it work with more cards. The problem is that the LTE version only comes with 8 GB of internal storage. So I have lots of free space on my sdcard but my phone is still full and I have problems updating some things due to lack on space on the internal memory. Some of the applications I had moved to sdcard were no longer there so I'm assuming what happened is that it deleted them prior to installing an updated version but then the installation of the new version failed due to not enough space in internal memory.