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audio manager problems

just received 8 gigs sd card...got like 1000+ songs in it but audio manager can only load the first 2 songs only...couldn't load the rest of the songs...window media is ok but i rather play songs with the audio manager..anyone know what is the problem?

Never heard of that before :O Sounds like a weird one. Hope you find a solution.
Have you tried removing the two songs that it DOES load, and see if it loads any other ones?
Different file formats maybe??

all songs are in mp3 format. same formats as the loaded songs. im using duttys rom. weird how it load songs from my 2 gigs but it wont load the songs from the 8 gigs except the first 2 songs....

I'm on a different rom now. But currently some of my songs are not accessible via the album listing, only "All Songs". I find that kinda weird, not that I really care. Still though, don't know why it would only show certain albums, even though all songs have album art and information and are part of an album.. oh well.
I have no more ideas for you

Transferring Music to TP

Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.

i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.

Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.

Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?

dr g said:
How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.

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Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?

When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?

WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.

Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!

Music Player -Not enough space in Music Database

Hello everyone,
Looking for a solution to an issue with the Music Player I have stumbled across within the first couple days of using the Captivate.
I have an external 16GB sd card filled with mp3s that has ~2GB free. When opening Music Player I find all of my files are there, but if I try switching to "Artists" view the application will close and I will get the message "Not Enough Space in Music Database". My internal sd card does not have any media on it so this card is nearly 100% empty.
It's pretty annoying not having the ability to sort by artists as you could imagine.
Sorry if this has been covered already, but I couldn't find anything in the Captivate forum about it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

I had the same problem. I'm now using the cubed music player without any problems, and I really like it. Check it out here.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/03/23/android-quick-app-3-or-cubed-music-player/

Thanks for the suggestion. I've got it running now and I am happy with this.

Same Problem / Posted to T-Mobile Forums
I have the same problem [Not Enough Space in Music Database] error occurs when trying to sort by Artist or searching (for anything) from the Music Player.
It would be nice to have a fix for the Samsung/stock Music Player (which can't be removed) instead of installing yet another redundant application.

tjtaylor said:
I have the same problem [Not Enough Space in Music Database] error occurs when trying to sort by Artist or searching (for anything) from the Music Player.
It would be nice to have a fix for the Samsung/stock Music Player (which can't be removed) instead of installing yet another redundant application.
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I was looking around in dbdata/databases/media and there are some artist databases and such in there that I thought might have something to do with this, but I don't really know what they do or anything.
Maybe someone who knows more than I do could look at them and see if they notice anything strange that may be causing the problem.

Works with 30 Artists
After deleting most of the music library from the phone [reduced to 30 artists from 181] I was able to use the Vibrant Music Player to organize by Artist.

I too had the same problem: 32 gb SanDisk card installed with 3260 songs and I am not sure how many artists. Coming from an iPhone 3Gs, I was not happy with the native program's GUI, and not being able to sort by artist made searching nearly impossible.
I reformatted the card, and am in the midst of rebuilding some playlists in iTunes, and importing using iTunes Sync (I believe that is the name of the program; I am on my laptop right now). As of now, I have 463 songs, and 3 genres. Music Player recognizes artists, and displays them fine, at this point.
I did find a different music player with (IMO) a better GUI; it is called MixZing. The free version has ads, and after playing with the advanced features like a 10 band eq, I think it is well worth the 5 bucks for the full version.
Just my .02; hope it helps.

SmoovC said:
I too had the same problem: 32 gb SanDisk card installed with 3260 songs and I am not sure how many artists. Coming from an iPhone 3Gs, I was not happy with the native program's GUI, and not being able to sort by artist made searching nearly impossible.
I reformatted the card, and am in the midst of rebuilding some playlists in iTunes, and importing using iTunes Sync (I believe that is the name of the program; I am on my laptop right now). As of now, I have 463 songs, and 3 genres. Music Player recognizes artists, and displays them fine, at this point.
I did find a different music player with (IMO) a better GUI; it is called MixZing. The free version has ads, and after playing with the advanced features like a 10 band eq, I think it is well worth the 5 bucks for the full version.
Just my .02; hope it helps.
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I'm using MixZing too. I really like the lock screen widget, and I even bought the full version.
If you want something thats a little more... fun. Try cubed. It has a really cool interface, but I like the usability of MixZing a bit better.

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I'm using MixZing too. I really like the lock screen widget, and I even bought the full version.
If you want something thats a little more... fun. Try cubed. It has a really cool interface, but I like the usability of MixZing a bit better.
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I did try "3", and it is fun to play with. I like the functionality of MixZing better for when I'm driving and trying to flip through tunes.
Yes, you are right: the lock screen widget is great; thanks for mentioning it as I forgot that feature.

Wow, this problem is devastating. I still haven't transfered and organized all my music but I don't want to use another app. The default one is perfect, I can pause/skip from lockscreen and swipe down the status bar while working with the phone.
But most importantly: The virtual surround sound! I can't let that go and use another application!

I'm also having this issue..my internal card has around 11 gigs of music. I synced using media monkey and set it to embed album art into the tags, could that have something to do with it?

I too am rooted, have 10 gigs of music and album art on my external 16 gig sd card and have no issues sorting by any means via the default music player.
I've installed titanium backup, busybox, rom manager, launcher pro and a few have fun apps. Uninstalled all the AT&T junk. If that helps.

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I have about 17GB of music on an SD card, and I ran into this issue. The card was recently formatted, and my Android installation is pretty clean.
I realize 17GB of music is a lot, and I know I could pare it down to work around this problem, but nonetheless I'm very disappointed that Samsung didn't put together a better database system.
Mixzing and Cubed can handle it. The stock music app is really great otherwise, but this issue basically ruins it for me. C'mon, Samsung.

I found this post by DLarva in the Vibrant Forum... perhaps this is the key:
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OK, well I thought was the number of artists, but now I'm not so sure.
Maybe it has something to do with how the app handles various artists and/or unknown artists.
I added all my music, then deleted tracks from various artist albums until it worked again. I then put back the various artist album track and it didn't work, as expected.
I thought this was artist based, but when I got it working again--by deleting the track mentioned above--and then added a track for a various artist album by an artist that already existed, the app crashed too.
I then thought it might be song based. So I removed that song and then added a set of songs. However, it unexpectantly worked.
The difference with the set of songs added above is that they weren't part of a various artist album. They were a new artist, but the main album artist wasn't Various with a Contributing artist of the actual artist name. Instead, the Album Artist was the artist name and the contributing artist was left blank (or had the same name).
So, it is that the music app doesn't understand how to handle various artist albums?
Could someone else with this problem remove all the various artist albums from their collection and see if their app works again?
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Even the stock android music player can handle it. I don't think its a database issue but instead a bug in the music player itself.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I just hit the same roadblock.
No one have any definitive answers yet? Besides "Buy an iPod" ?
Anyone know just how many artists it can take before it crashes?

There's a workaround... just get rid of/rename your various artist tracks. As long as you don't have too many tracks by "Various Artists", you will not have this issue any more. I have 8 gigs of music on my SD card and no issues with sorting by artist.

ScottyNuttz said:
There's a workaround... just get rid of/rename your various artist tracks. As long as you don't have too many tracks by "Various Artists", you will not have this issue any more. I have 8 gigs of music on my SD card and no issues with sorting by artist.
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I have about 16gb of music split between my internal and external SD cards. None of my mp3s are tagged with "Various Artists" in the artist field, yet I still experience the "Not enough space..." error when attempting to sort by Artist. However, all other sort filters work fine.
Does anyone know if the leaked JI6 ROM still has this issue?

Workaround <G> Well, I deleted the soundtrack and collection albums from the microSD card, that works too.
I'd rather not lose the artist names from the MP3 tags but I guess putting "Samsung ****S" in there instead would also serve the purpose.
There must be a terribly small limit (128? 256?) on the number of records/fields in that database, because I really didn't have THAT many artist names. Maybe two dozen primaries, then only 6 discs of "collections", like the 4-disc Woodstock set. Odds are there are 128 artists in all--and that's enough to crash a database?!
ROFL, with tears in my eyes. Was this stuff written by programmers, or Pinky And The Brain? As if it would be SO HARD to release an update? And compete with an iPod?
[LATER]
I think I've just discovered another and greater reason to dump the Samsung/AT&T Music Player: It inserts breaks! Like the Windows Media Player, it is incapable of playing two consecutive tracks without inserting a pause.
If you have ever listened to Simon & Garfunkel, or Pink Floyd, or The Moody Blues, or Jefferson Airplane/Starship....there are many albums that segue from one track into the next WITHOUT ANY BREAK. Now this nasty little cheapware comes along, and to me it sounds just like a skip in an LP, there's a half second of dead silence interrupting the playback. That's just plain nasty, considering all the software has to do is pre-fetch, buffer the next track and keep playing.
Looks like I'm going shopping...and then doing a little root & spring cleaning with the trash, unless Samsung fix this all in the Froyo release.
"Dear Samsung and AT&T: Grow up! There's no excuse for this kind of software getting onto the market in this day and age. You can and MUST do better."

Music Storage

What is the best to store music. I have double twist, but it is a pain to sync my checked songs in Itunes. I am coming from a iphone, had one since 08. I also uploaded most of my music I listen to to Google Music. Is that the easiest? I am afraid with double twist it will sync all of my music. Also will stock music app play songs that I have on Google Music?
Thank

I have DoubleTwist, but I only use it for AirPlay, not for syncing, so I can't speak on that part.
The Play Music (Google Music) player is the only player that will stream your Google Music from the cloud. However, within Play Music, you can download songs to your device. At that point you need a third-party app to convert the downloaded Google Music songs to regular mp3's for use with other apps like the stock app or DoubleTwist.
Sorry, I can't recall what any of these third-party apps are called, but if you google around, you should be able to find them.

If you want to keep music on your phone (which is of course handy for when you don't have a data connection), I use Syncr, which seems to have an easier interface, and less buggy than DoubleTwist. I just dump the music I want into playlists, and sync the playlists to my phone using Syncr.
Haven't used Doubletwist in a while. But when I did, it seemed that more times than not, it would try to synch all my music to my phone, regardless of the fact that I indicated to only sync certain playlists. Since I have something like 40+ GB of music, it lock up my computer, and fail to sync successfully anyway (since there is obviously not enough storage on the phone). Then I would have to start over synching, and on subsequent attempts, it would finally do what I wanted.

I find the solution I use to be quite useful and actually pretty awesome.
I've uploaded my entire music collection to Google Music. Yeah, it takes a while, but just leave your computer on for a couple of nights and it will finish.
Next, I made sure everything was well-organized. I only keep complete albums (like buying a CD), so sometimes there will be a song or two that need to be manually grouped into the album. Do this!
And finally, go into the Google Music app for your phone, select a few albums, and make them 'Available Offline'. It takes a minute or so to get an entire album transferred onto the device. Make sure you do this while on WiFi.
Since my phone can't hold all of my music, I select about 10 albums or so- more than I can realistically listen to while I'm out, and swap in/out albums when I get new ones or want to listen to something else.
It's also pretty useful if you stumble into anywhere with WiFi and want to listen to your entire music collection- something a lot of us cannot do even with 32GB phone storage. You can also make some more music 'Available Offline' when you find WiFi out in the wild.
This has worked wonders for me so far.

So does Google music not let others tie into their service? Big disappointment IMO, I am coming from windows phone and iPhone that have these app silos. Android has a file system and I thought this could be avoided.
I want to use the new HTC Music Hub and at first thought that it was going to tie-in from Google music and bring down all of my music as well as tie-in with local music I have on the phone. Which I am realizing is not the case. All the HTC Music Hub is going to do it let me launch Google music... Disappointing
New question though. Can Google Music two-way sync from the phone? Let's say I download an album from the internet onto my phone. If I put it in a certain folder will it sync? or is there an option in Google Music to upload music from the phone to Google Music?
And last but not least, can the Google Music player play music stored locally on the phone?

You can only add songs to Google Music from your computer, for now.
If you make music 'Available Offline', it becomes stored locally and you can listen to it without an internet connection.
You cannot use Google Music to listen to non-Goolge Music locally stored music.

danada said:
I find the solution I use to be quite useful and actually pretty awesome.
I've uploaded my entire music collection to Google Music. Yeah, it takes a while, but just leave your computer on for a couple of nights and it will finish.
Next, I made sure everything was well-organized. I only keep complete albums (like buying a CD), so sometimes there will be a song or two that need to be manually grouped into the album. Do this!
And finally, go into the Google Music app for your phone, select a few albums, and make them 'Available Offline'. It takes a minute or so to get an entire album transferred onto the device. Make sure you do this while on WiFi.
Since my phone can't hold all of my music, I select about 10 albums or so- more than I can realistically listen to while I'm out, and swap in/out albums when I get new ones or want to listen to something else.
It's also pretty useful if you stumble into anywhere with WiFi and want to listen to your entire music collection- something a lot of us cannot do even with 32GB phone storage. You can also make some more music 'Available Offline' when you find WiFi out in the wild.
This has worked wonders for me so far.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking of doing if I get the One X. Some questions...
Is is simple to swap in/out albums for offline listening? (When on wi-fi.)
So the music is stored locally when downloaded for offline listening? For the One X would that mean the 'phone storage'? (The 9.8 available for media.)
Any idea how long it would take over wi-fi if I hypothetically chose 6 GB of music to download for offline listening?
How well organized is your music once you use the Google Music app? Any bugs? (Songs missing, artist listed twice, anything else.)
Thanks in advance for your answers.

How to view all my music from SD card?

I recently added all my music (roughly 90GB of music) to a Sandisk 128 GB Class 10 microSD. I put this microSD into my phone and my music players were unable to locate all the music. I don't know how, but at one point, all my music was finally scrollable. After some tinkering with the ".nomedia" file, all my album artwork showed up in my gallery. I've since then installed QuickPic to deal with that annoyance. However, I have been unable to look at all my music again. The majority of my music are in one big folder with no name, or in Shuttle, every song in it is called "null - null". How can I restore my phone's ability to view my entire library of music?
I've yet to try deleting everything off the card, and then retransferring, but that's a real pain in the butt and I would rather do that as a final option (though I don't know if that would even help).
I have tried deleting my music players' data and uninstalling/reinstalling and restarting my phone and unmounting/mounting my SD card, but still no luck.
Oh, and I am rooted on QF6 Hybrid Nougat ROM.

Sounds like the files are corrupt. To test this plug your phone into your pc and try playing the music with a media player on your pc. If the music plays, then it is not corrupt.
I had a similar issue a while back and it was because my music didn't transfer correctly and some of it wouldn't play.