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Hows the FM Radio?

Well my pair of fuzes should be arriving on Monday or Tuesday so I'm beginning to wonder about some of the other hardware parts. I keep reading that the FM Radio uses the headset as an Antenna. I have a Hermes and the included abysmal headset that came with that, and I have so little intention of using the one that I'm about to get it might make small children cry, so heres the question of the day:
Does the FM Radio work acceptably without the headset? If not, does it work with an adapter and *REAL* headphones?
Not a deal breaker either way, but it would be cool to know.

Hi, I've a Touch Pro on Vodafone UK flashed with ROMeOS² Italian Rom (just to let you know ). I'm using on it the headset controller that i had with my previous phone, an O2 Stellar (Tytn2) and a Sennheiser CX300. Absolutely no problem, and the sound looking great!
Now on your other questions.FM Radio is not working without headset, so you have to put them in the plug, and then FM Radio program will start. Otherwise, if for you is a problem having headset inserted in the phone, you can buy an headset controller (on ebay have a really low price!).
About the headset quality, I had before of Touch Pro, a tytn and a tytn2, and can confirm that the quality is the same, so I never used those!
PS: sorry for my english, I hope you undertand what I'm saying!

gezzy said:
Hi, I've a Touch Pro on Vodafone UK flashed with ROMeOS² Italian Rom (just to let you know ). I'm using on it the headset controller that i had with my previous phone, an O2 Stellar (Tytn2) and a Sennheiser CX300. Absolutely no problem, and the sound looking great!
Now on your other questions.FM Radio is not working without headset, so you have to put them in the plug, and then FM Radio program will start. Otherwise, if for you is a problem having headset inserted in the phone, you can buy an headset controller (on ebay have a really low price!).
About the headset quality, I had before of Touch Pro, a tytn and a tytn2, and can confirm that the quality is the same, so I never used those!
PS: sorry for my english, I hope you undertand what I'm saying!
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Thanks alot! that actually answers everything.
Dont worry, I've read my fair share of very broken english, you're miles ahead of many people.

I've had trouble getting stations in clearly using a variety of headphones, but it does work.

kgbeezr1 said:
I've had trouble getting stations in clearly using a variety of headphones, but it does work.
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I live fairly close to New York City, so this may in fact be a YMMV. How far off are most of your radio stations?

better then the diamonds radio

Radio program works great for me. It just depends on what kind of area you are in like the poster said a few above me with buildings in NYC. Headphones are ok that I got with my Hermes.

The other route to take of course is streaming radio but that will probably take more battery life than FM.

i DL the one for the fuse and my headset doesnt work as an antenna..... i wonder if i used another phone headset if i could pick up any other radio stations????

is there a cab file for the fm radio?

flatbushe21 said:
is there a cab file for the fm radio?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116132&d=1222374257

I recently was passing by Phoenix AZ and picked up an FM station when I was about 150 miles away and held it until I was 150 mile past Phoenix. Maybe the conditions were just perfect, maybe my headphones are a very effective antenna but whatever the reason, I was impressed with the performance.
Pat

It works great, you need a adapter for your headphone though. It comes with the phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykBhbiOg1mY
Here's how it look, my fuze

Patrick Reily said:
I recently was passing by Phoenix AZ and picked up an FM station when I was about 150 miles away and held it until I was 150 mile past Phoenix. Maybe the conditions were just perfect, maybe my headphones are a very effective antenna but whatever the reason, I was impressed with the performance.
Pat
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same thing here. i live on the outer edge of houston and can barely get my 2 favorite stations with my car but with my fuze its loud and clear full signal. ive been thinking of ways of hooking my phone into my car just for fm radio. poor iphone users dont know what they are missing.

Got my Fuze, Loving the hell out of this thing but the FM Radio isnt quite what I had hoped. Its not awful, its just not great either. Oh well.

dieKatze88 said:
Got my Fuze, Loving the hell out of this thing but the FM Radio isnt quite what I had hoped. Its not awful, its just not great either. Oh well.
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whats wrong with it? fm radio isnt the most expansive tool. i use musicid with it and make lists of music i want to download. ^_^

gezzy said:
...FM Radio is not working without headset...
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Strictly speaking that's not true - mine works fine on 'speaker mode' with just one of these in it.
I use some retractable ear buds (also from ebay) & it works fine. I get a good signal on most UK stations of note.
I also stream world radio from the links posted here here, which is fine for talk radio even at GPRS "2 bar" speeds using Windows Media Player and in comparison of course, the FM player is much better.

Boost Bluetooth Headset Volume

I have tried the various Audio Boost cabs and searching for solutions but no luck so far. None of them seem to boost my BT headset(s) volume sufficiently (or at all...only phone speaker volume). Same headsets on other phones are sufficiently loud, except my Fuze. I drive a loud car and suffer from some minor hearing loss and with the headset volume maxed out and the phone volume maxed out, I still need a bit more.
Any solutions?
Headsets are:
Jabra BT530 (normal headset)
Samsung WEP200 (old backup headset)
Blueant V1 (wife's)

I've been looking for a solution to this forever! I pretty much gave up on the bluetooth headset and went back to wired. I would love to use the bluetooth, but the in-call volume is just too low.

lantern20 said:
I've been looking for a solution to this forever! I pretty much gave up on the bluetooth headset and went back to wired. I would love to use the bluetooth, but the in-call volume is just too low.
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thanks for the reply...
bump for more views and hopefully a solution!

peeps said:
thanks for the reply...
bump for more views and hopefully a solution!
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I have some issues with BT being to low.
Remember there was, if I remember correctly, in some really old MONX thread a discussion of the Audiopara3-file that might affect BT-volume.
I made a futile effort of searching, but with limited time I couldn't find it.
Sorry.

Gnurf said:
I have some issues with BT being to low.
Remember there was, if I remember correctly, in some really old MONX thread a discussion of the Audiopara3-file that might affect BT-volume.
I made a futile effort of searching, but with limited time I couldn't find it.
Sorry.
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One of the things I have tried is replacing the Audiopara3 file but it has no effect on BT headset volume.

peeps said:
One of the things I have tried is replacing the Audiopara3 file but it has no effect on BT headset volume.
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That's not what I meant...
What I meant was there was a discussion about a value IN audiopara3 that might affect the BT-volume..

Now, I don't know if this is imaginary, but I looked over some registry-settings, and I atleast think I got somewhat louder sound over BT-headset, but as I said, it might aswell be in my imagination.
What I did, was to increase the values in:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\waveDev\GainADC_HeadsetMIC_12h
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\BtA2dpSnd\GainADC_HeadsetMIC_12h
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\BtA2dpSnd\GainADC_BluetoothMIC_12h
and rebooted.
Do this at your own risk, I am in no way responsible for any dataloss or your phone or even that it's working or not.

Gnurf said:
Now, I don't know if this is imaginary, but I looked over some registry-settings, and I atleast think I got somewhat louder sound over BT-headset, but as I said, it might aswell be in my imagination.
What I did, was to increase the values in:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\waveDev\GainADC_HeadsetMIC_12h
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\BtA2dpSnd\GainADC_HeadsetMIC_12h
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\BtA2dpSnd\GainADC_BluetoothMIC_12h
and rebooted.
Do this at your own risk, I am in no way responsible for any dataloss or your phone or even that it's working or not.
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I do not have those registry keys in those registry locations...I have the 2 locations shown, but not those keys or anything close to them.

peeps said:
I do not have those registry keys in those registry locations...I have the 2 locations shown, but not those keys or anything close to them.
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Ok. I'm on EnergyROM_23504_RAPHAEL_10.Nov.2009_StandardM2.5.rar
Don't know if they are safe to just add either. I guess you could try though.
Suppose you would be safest to make a backup, just in case.
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I just found this while googling. havn't read through the entire thread and don't know if it's any difference between the audiopara you tried but you might wanna give it a shot.

anything? that works yet? i have a bluetooth speaker lg msb100 that i carry around in my hard hat. its not loud enough please someone find a fix to this.

Headset bluetooth connection problem

Hi friends, i bought yesterday a bluetooth samsung hm1500 headset (2.1 bt + edr)
http://www.mytrendyphone.com/shop/samsung-hm1500-bluetooth-27371p.html
and i can't connect with tg01. The phone cannot detect it. I tried everything for hours , tried with all available roms but still nothing.
Can anyone help please ?

Use the traditional problem solving procedure
1) Test your new headset with another phone (friend, relative....)
2) Test your TG01 with another Bluetooth device
Good luck! Tell us the results

Motorola are the best
Bluetooth headphones are real fussy. Motorola's pretty much work with everything I've found.

Thanks friends for the replies, i send it back, doa, i tried with 3 other mobile phones and nothing with noone conected only with my laptop was possible to connect, very special bluetooth.

Has anyone found a bluetooth headset that one can have a decent conversation with others without having problems of not being heard loudly? I have two headsets, a cheap ebay hong-kong one and a Nokia BH-215. People complain hearing me very low with both. If i get away from the phone but within the bt radius things get even worse and don't get better even if i get close to the phone again. I think it's because of the phone and not the headset.

Did you try SRS 3 cabs install?

No but i used it once and i remeber that it messed up my bt connection. But that was back in 6.5.x rom. Maybe i''l give it a shot now that i'm on 6.1.

Jonous said:
Has anyone found a bluetooth headset that one can have a decent conversation with others without having problems of not being heard loudly? I have two headsets, a cheap ebay hong-kong one and a Nokia BH-215. People complain hearing me very low with both. If i get away from the phone but within the bt radius things get even worse and don't get better even if i get close to the phone again. I think it's because of the phone and not the headset.
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I am using a Sony Ericsson MW600 (includes FM radio as a bonus) and is fine.

kevinpwhite said:
I am using a Sony Ericsson MW600 (includes FM radio as a bonus) and is fine.
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Thanks for the info Kevin

kevinpwhite said:
I am using a Sony Ericsson MW600 (includes FM radio as a bonus) and is fine.
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Kevin i bought one but still connection tends to lose sound quality with too much "noise garbage" in it. Can you tell me with which radio have you been using it with? Is it the 1600 of the rom in your signature?
Thanx

Jonous said:
Kevin i bought one but still connection tends to lose sound quality with too much "noise garbage" in it. Can you tell me with which radio have you been using it with? Is it the 1600 of the rom in your signature?
Thanx
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Hi Jonous,
I'm using it with the other radio - what was effectively the 'Italian' stock radio 0300.76
It's difficult to compare notes with this sort of thing remotely... but I'd confrm that there is 'some' degree of background noise present even on this high-end BT headset device when compared direct to a hard wired uUSB connection (into the same earphones - per my sig). Like any audio device, I'd recommend keeping the volume level on any element in the chain to < 60% in order to keep noise down.
DEspite the above, I'd regard the MW600 as a quite capable piece of kit in conjunction with the TG01 giving extra flexibility - but it is a trade-off to some extent with quality.

kevinpwhite said:
Hi Jonous,
I'm using it with the other radio - what was effectively the 'Italian' stock radio 0300.76
It's difficult to compare notes with this sort of thing remotely... but I'd confrm that there is 'some' degree of background noise present even on this high-end BT headset device when compared direct to a hard wired uUSB connection (into the same earphones - per my sig). Like any audio device, I'd recommend keeping the volume level on any element in the chain to < 60% in order to keep noise down.
DEspite the above, I'd regard the MW600 as a quite capable piece of kit in conjunction with the TG01 giving extra flexibility - but it is a trade-off to some extent with quality.
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Hehe i feel like an idiot, i enbarked on an endless journey of flashing and flashing different radios and trying out the sound quality of each one cause bt headset is very important for me. When i got to 0300.76 suddenly sound was crystal clear! On the 1st test call. On the second call i was bearly heard, crappy sound again. Then it it struck to me...I remembered that sometimes when you press the answer call button of the headset the sound is transfered to the phone...I thought "no it can't be...if this is it i'm a real idiot!!!" And yes, when i pressed the button again sound was transfered to the headset and sound was magnificent! So the lousy sound i got with all other roms was because i was trying to be heard through the phone's micrphone which was some 2-3 away from me hahaha so other end of line heard little or nothing.
Well enough said, this headset is brilliant, loud n clear sound, caller id, fm radio everything! well almost, i wish it had vibration too but don't care, i'm happy with my buy! Thanks again

Jonous said:
.....Well enough said, this headset is brilliant, loud n clear sound, caller id, fm radio everything! well almost, i wish it had vibration too but don't care, i'm happy with my buy! Thanks again
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You are most welcome - I'm delighted you are up and running and happy with the S-E MW600 headset. There are so many variables with these things as well as the subjective element wjhen it comes to perceived audio quality that it is difficult to translate one person's experience to another. Great news

the Sony MW600 is really great !
But don´t forget to increase the bitrate of the streaming codec.
I modified/added this values in HLKM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings
BitPool 65
MinSupportedBitPool 65
MaxSupportedBitpool 65
SampleRate 48000
SubBands 8
Blocks 16
Allocation 1
UseJointStereo 1
Unfortunately Track names are not submitted like with SE or some HTC phones

Hi Friends!!!
I have also the same problem with a BT car.
And the problem is like it´s been described (sound very loud in the microphone)....
I remember that in my I780, I changed some settings (don´t remember if it was in Hardware or registry).
Anyone had a solution?

Updated findings: Bad audio out thru headphone jack to car fm transmitter

First off I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this and I also searched for the past few days and have had no luck finding anything much on this. Most stuff I come accross is talking about the phone having a built in fm transmitter that doesn't work - blah blah blah. So here goes, I'm now on Paul's Froyo ROM and for the first time decided to try using the phone for playing music in my car thru a wired fm transmitter and it was not good. I now have three fm transmitters (2 I bought and the final one my brother gave me his that he used to use in his car with no problems) all give me the same results which is it seems okay playing through parts of songs that don't have much bass but once bass starts to hit it gets all awful stattic sounding and the Stereo (ST) indicator on my radio blinks so somehow the sound quality goes all bad. I've narrowed it down to obviously being something with the phone somehow cause I've tried with iPhones and another MP3 player and they (FM transmitters) work perfectly. I've also tried it with IntersectRaven's and CM's kernels for Froyo to see if the kernels might make a difference and no luck. So my question is, is this a known issue with the N1 or is this an issue with Froyo and isn't the case with say CM 5.0.7.1, anyone with experience can shed some light? Was thinking to go back to CM but after seeing all the threads of the issues in doing so decided not to but if this is not the case with other ROMs then it would make me switch back until a official Cyanogenized Froyo is out. If this is the wrong forum then my apologies and Dev's plz move to correct forum.
Update: I've messed with it some more and have been able to get it to play fine with Pershoots kernel but I have to turn down the media volume to approximately 70%. So it seems to me that with the media volume up all the way it must be drawing too much power or something from the headphone jack to make the output all distorted. I haven't tried with IntersectRaven's kernel to say if I get the same result since I'm just happy the darn thing works now. I'll also do a post in the Develoment forum linking to this in case anyone there may want to investigate this issue.

Sounds to me like every experience I've ever had with every FM transmitter. They just don't transmit loudness or bass well. I don't think it's the phone, I think its the FM Transmitter technology.
edit: could just be the volume boost or something on the specific kernel (not even sure if the kernel's you are talking about have a volume boost) but that may increase the max volume out and cause the problem.

derfasaurus said:
Sounds to me like every experience I've ever had with every FM transmitter. They just don't transmit loudness or bass well. I don't think it's the phone, I think its the FM Transmitter technology.
edit: could just be the volume boost or something on the specific kernel (not even sure if the kernel's you are talking about have a volume boost) but that may increase the max volume out and cause the problem.
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Kman Gymrat said:
First off I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this and I also searched for the past few days and have had no luck finding anything much on this. Most stuff I come accross is talking about the phone having a built in fm transmitter that doesn't work - blah blah blah. So here goes, I'm now on Paul's Froyo ROM and for the first time decided to try using the phone for playing music in my car thru a wired fm transmitter and it was not good. I now have three fm transmitters (2 I bought and the final one my brother gave me his that he used to use in his car with no problems) all give me the same results which is it seems okay playing through parts of songs that don't have much bass but once bass starts to hit it gets all awful stattic sounding and the Stereo (ST) indicator on my radio blinks so somehow the sound quality goes all bad. I've narrowed it down to obviously being something with the phone somehow cause I've tried with iPhones and another MP3 player and they (FM transmitters) work perfectly. I've also tried it with IntersectRaven's and CM's kernels for Froyo to see if the kernels might make a difference and no luck. So my question is, is this a known issue with the N1 or is this an issue with Froyo and isn't the case with say CM 5.0.7.1, anyone with experience can shed some light? Was thinking to go back to CM but after seeing all the threads of the issues in doing so decided not to but if this is not the case with other ROMs then it would make me switch back until a official Cyanogenized Froyo is out. If this is the wrong forum then my apologies and Dev's plz move to correct forum.
Update: I've messed with it some more and have been able to get it to play fine with Pershoots kernel but I have to turn down the media volume to approximately 70%. So it seems to me that with the media volume up all the way it must be drawing too much power or something from the headphone jack to make the output all distorted. I haven't tried with IntersectRaven's kernel to say if I get the same result since I'm just happy the darn thing works now. I'll also do a post in the Develoment forum linking to this in case anyone there may want to investigate this issue.
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what you are describing is quiet normal if you drive the input of the fm transmitter too hard. You even found out the solution; lower the volume.

Yeh, but the thing that was baffling me was that the iPhones I tried worked fine with volume blasted and so did a MP3 player and that was with 3 different FM transmitters. I originally thought it was the transmitter so that's why I ended up buying another one to try then asking my brother for his which I know he used to have running with no issues. But after thinking about it for a while and searching some more I found posts in the kernel threads about audio boost so that's what made me think to turn the volume on the phone down.
Would like to try a vanilla kernel if you can link me to where to find one that's compatible with Froyo.
And actually I think I'm using CM's Froyo kernel but from what I understand it has pretty much the same tweaks as Pershoot's. Also need to go back to IntersectRaven's and try again with the vol down a bit but I don't have enough battery life left to feel comfortable flashing it.

For the FM-transmitter that I use in my car it's actually stated in the manual that you should keep the volume at about 50% on the device as to not ruin the sound. So I guess this is quite normal and just means you have to adjust the volume on the car stereo a bit.

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Yeh, but the thing that was baffling me was that the iPhones I tried worked fine with volume blasted and so did a MP3 player and that was with 3 different FM transmitters. I originally thought it was the transmitter so that's why I ended up buying another one to try then asking my brother for his which I know he used to have running with no issues. But after thinking about it for a while and searching some more I found posts in the kernel threads about audio boost so that's what made me think to turn the volume on the phone down.
Would like to try a vanilla kernel if you can link me to where to find one that's compatible with Froyo.
And actually I think I'm using CM's Froyo kernel but from what I understand it has pretty much the same tweaks as Pershoot's. Also need to go back to IntersectRaven's and try again with the vol down a bit but I don't have enough battery life left to feel comfortable flashing it.
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All kernels are compatible with froyo, just go to the kernels thread and find a sock one

[Q] Skyrocket Low Earpiece Volume Question

My Skyrocket has always had low earpiece volume. It sounds normal until I get in a noisy environment, then I have to press my ear totally against the phone which barely helps. My wife's Galaxy s2 i777 has louder volume and doesn't have this problem. I have tried all the available roms for my device to no avail. Is this normal for this phone, and if so, is there anything I can do to fix this problem? Any app that will work? I love this phone as it meets all my needs except for the volume. Thanks for your help!
edit: i bought this phones 2 months ago from Ebay. I researched it before i bought it, but the main issues others had with the skyrocket was the battery life with LTE. Well, the battery life has been great after custom rom, But the volume is terrible. I first thought i was sold a defective phone but then i found out that others had the same problem, but no solutions. Even all the volume boosts apps that work on other phones (for reasons WAY above my pay grade) do not work on our skyrocket.

...Anybody?... I know this problem of low earpiece volume is common with the skyrocket and has been brought up on many different forums, but I have not found anyone who has found a way to resolve the problem. Any help or direction would be appreciated. This trouble exist with both stock and custom roms.

still no answers?...sigh...

Well, I have replaced the earspeaker and the problem still persists. To clarify, the speaker is not as low as it was when Beanstalk 4.4 was going thru its growing pains and the volume level dropped after one of the builds a month or so ago. It is just that standing outside with normal outdoor sounds (occasional traffic, birds tweeting, outdoor noises) ihave to hold my ear directly against the speaker. I dont have that problem with my wife's s2 i777

Well, a month has passed with no replies. I have found that the volume level is good when using a headset to answer calls, so I have resorted to trying to be sure to carry earbuds with me. On the rare occasion that I dont have earbuds are the days I dread having this phone. As I us my phone for work, I need it to work as a phone first, and a smartphone secondary. As I stated before, I love the features of this phone, but there has to be a workaround for the volume levels. Maybe I'm just getting old and you young folks dont use the phone to actually speak to each other. Woah! Who let my dad in the room?!!? Anyway, Still looking for help. I am not asking which rom is better than another, but are there any roms that have louder volume levels? I have tried many here including Beanstalk, Dirty Unicorns, Liquid Smooth, Sultans CM 11...

crad614 said:
Well, a month has passed with no replies. I have found that the volume level is good when using a headset to answer calls, so I have resorted to trying to be sure to carry earbuds with me. On the rare occasion that I dont have earbuds are the days I dread having this phone. As I us my phone for work, I need it to work as a phone first, and a smartphone secondary. As I stated before, I love the features of this phone, but there has to be a workaround for the volume levels. Maybe I'm just getting old and you young folks dont use the phone to actually speak to each other. Woah! Who let my dad in the room?!!? Anyway, Still looking for help. I am not asking which rom is better than another, but are there any roms that have louder volume levels? I have tried many here including Beanstalk, Dirty Unicorns, Liquid Smooth, Sultans CM 11...
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Bean Stalk comes with am app called DSP manager which helps control volumes for bluetooth headsets. Give that a shot. It may just be your headset

harrisd23 said:
Bean Stalk comes with am app called DSP manager which helps control volumes for bluetooth headsets. Give that a shot. It may just be your headset
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The headset isn't the problem. The phone sounds great thru all the headsets that I have tried and thru the loudspeaker. The low volume level is when I am not using the headset and actually have to place my ear up to the phone(earpiece speaker). Its usable in normal areas, such as inside a room, but standing outside with normal background sounds like nature and light road traffic, I can barely hear the caller. I have to press my ear against the phone pretty hard, which usually ends up with accidental button presses and hangups.

crad614 said:
The headset isn't the problem. The phone sounds great thru all the headsets that I have tried and thru the loudspeaker. The low volume level is when I am not using the headset and actually have to place my ear up to the phone(earpiece speaker). Its usable in normal areas, such as inside a room, but standing outside with normal background sounds like nature and light road traffic, I can barely hear the caller. I have to press my ear against the phone pretty hard, which usually ends up with accidental button presses and hangups.
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Oh i understand, yes I have had that same issue which is why i bought a blue tooth headset.... Not sure if programming can do anything about the internal speaker.

harrisd23 said:
Oh i understand, yes I have had that same issue which is why i bought a blue tooth headset.... Not sure if programming can do anything about the internal speaker.
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Yeah, I was kinda hoping that maybe somebody discovered something that solve this. I don't know anything about programming, but I was thinking that back when beanstalk had those troubles with extra low volume, it was eventually fixed. And since he was able to boost the volume back to correct levels maybe it could be boosted just a little bit more. Or Since DSP works with bluetooth speakers and headphones and external speakers it seems like it would be easy to make it boost the earpiece volume. But I know that it is NOT easy...it may be impossible. If it was easy then there would have been a fix long ago. But a man can hope, can't he?