HTC s710 Battery Life Conservation - HTC Vox

I started this week finally fed up with the fact that I had to charge my battery every 24 hours. It was not working for me and I seriously was getting finally pissed off with this phone that I love so much and defend so much.
I did some research around here and using my best friend Google and found bits and pieces.
I decided to start a post where we can contribute ways to conserve the battery life. The one I have used has so far gone over 6 hours and only used 17% of battery life after calls of about 5 minutes in total. Normally by now my phone would be on 2 bars.
The ultimate thing to be aware of is that the battery is just like our bodies. The more activities, the faster the depletion. By activities I mean applications running. Now often you 'end' an application and yet it is still running chewing your battery behind your back.
Here are some tips:
[*]Light Displays
This is the common tip. Go to 'start/ settings/ power management' and look for 'Backlight time out on battery' and 'Display time out on battery'. The lower you set the time for these, the less battery you use therfore the more you conserve batteries.
I set my backlight time out to 5 seconds and display time out to 1 minutes. After making a call I rarely need the lights on. I adjust this stuff when I use other applications like Mobile Comic Reader (yes, I'm a comic book geek).
[*]Automatic email downloads
Now this is one that I overlooked and was like 'You idiot!'
Just remember, the more active your phone is the more battery it chews up. Email updates has your phone communicate with your mail box to find new emails and download them automatically.
To change this (in case you don't know) click 'start/ messages/ <select email account>/ menu/ settings/ next/ next/ next/ next/ next/' You should be on the screen that has 'automatic send/ receive emails'. The lower the frequency you set, the more battery you save.
I set mine to 'Once a day' and opt it to only download 'Todays messages'.
[*]Ending tasks using task manager
I only find out there is a task manager yesterday and I've had this phone for like a year and a half. How crazy is that?
Click 'start' and go right to the bottom and you will find it. Just like normal desk/ laptop task manager, you can use this to stop programs from running. Often times you end a program and think that it has stopped running but it is actually still running. The biggest culprit on this is 'Windows Media Player'.
Every so often, especially after using an application, make it a habit to close it off in task manager.
Switching off GPRS and/ or EDGE
You will notice a 'E' or 'G' at the top of your phone. This merely tells you that there are GPRS or EDGE networks operational. This is completely different from the 'E' or 'G' in the top right hand corner where your signal strength metre is.
If there is a 'E' or 'G' there, it means that your EDGE or GPRS is still connected and running. A running program means battery is being chewed.
At the top of your screen you'll see the first highlighted section containing 'Wi-fi; the time; your network service provider'. Clicking on this takes you to your Comm Manager with 8 rectangles. On the right hand column third row is an icon that looks like a PDA or touch screen with two arrows in different directions. Click this application to turn it off (give it a cross).
When you go back to your home screen, the 'E' or 'G' in the top right hand corner (not to be confused with the ones on the top middle) will be replaced with an icon I can only describe as a key that opens a tin of sardines. This means your EDGE or GPRS is turned off and not active.
Please remember to switch this back on when you want to send mms and go onto the internet using GPRS and stuff. Alternatively there is an option to automatically turn off GPRS if it is idle for a specified amount of time. for that you need any registry editor,
Goto HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Settings\Planner
Now change CacheTime to say 120 to turn of GPRS after its idle for 2 mins.
And Change SuspendResume from ~GPRS to GPRS_bye_if_device_off
That's the tips that I have found have made me a happy s710 user. I don't know if there are battery conservation programs for the s710 - I searched in vein - but in the end it just came down to efficient use of energy.
If there are any further suggestions, I invite all to drop their personal ideas that work.
God speed.

Please remember to switch this back on when you want to send mms and go onto the internet using GPRS and stuff.
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There is an option to automatically turn off GPRS if it is idle for a specified amount of time. for that you need any registry editor,
Goto HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Settings\Planner
Now change CacheTime to say 120 to turn of GPRS after its idle for 2 mins.
And Change SuspendResume from ~GPRS to GPRS_bye_if_device_off

Hey. Nice.
I'll look for that. I was wondering if there was such a function.

Black Spartan said:
Hey. Nice.
I'll look for that. I was wondering if there was such a function.
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just add it to your post. that way pple will get everything from the first post. BTW tc shows strange values, try resco or sktools.

Thanks. That was a good idea. I just added it.

Radio Off
I do some searching in internet and found this freeware RADIO OFF
It will automatically off your radio. just need to set the time..

Enabling Cell Info Display drains the battery.

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[UPDATED 2008-10-09]Request for testing band switching of CommMgrPro in Raphael

Hi.
I am solving the issues of CommMgrPro with Raphael. The most important were.
1) CMP didnt change the band correctly (2G <-> Auto <-> 3G)
2) CMP didnt set correctly the speaker volume.
Any help to see if those issues are gone in this version will be wellcome with free licenses
Version V2.2(2008-09-12)
1) There are towers on each country with same cell id. So now the primary key for Cell Mode will be CellID + LAC. CMP will convert your database so make a backup before and will fill the lac information each time it finds a cell with lac equals 0
2) Compatibility with HTC Touch Diamond and HTC Touch Pro (Fixed Band manager, speaker manager, GPS manager and some GUI changes).
3) New option to repair the database.
4) New page for connections option (In connections/menu/options)
5) Option to disable/enable connections on roaming
6) Option to CMP startup delayed on page Options 3.
7) Option to Show/Hide the main window after start CMP.
8) Clicking on the higher part of the battery bar opens the battery page
9) Clicking on the lower part of the battery bar opens the battery page
10) Hide button is raplaced by calendar button.
11) New Today tab. This dialog lets you see the next events that will happen in the place, including calendar events, "Always on" schedules and other events (time limits, etc)
I´m on it!
I´m curious to see how much battery economy this will bring when switching off 3G? I´ll post my findings. What do you mean by speaker volume (in call?).
thanks
Belive me, it really save your battery if you swith off 3G mode. My battery lifetime increase from 8 to 26h.
Regards
B.
danielherrero said:
Hi.
I am solving the issues of CommMgrPro with Raphael. The most important were.
1) CMP didnt change the band correctly (2G <-> Auto <-> 3G)
2) CMP didnt set correctly the speaker volume.
Any help to see if those issues are gone in this version will be wellcome with free licenses
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Hi Daniel,
I'm expecting my Touch Pro on Friday, I'll report as soon as I can.
Manni
So far so good on the band...
I´ve tried all day switching between 2G and 3G and it seem to work seamlessly, which comes as a huge plus for me to save on battery when 3G is not needed.
One thing I don´t get.. the HIDE button. CMP is hidden but how to unhide it without having to press the icon to launch it again.
Update: Yes it asks for the PIN but naturally it has to since it´s reestablishing a connection to the Celular provider.
Regarding band switching - it works sometimes because sometimes CM just reset himself (generate errors)
Another thing is that if I'm switching from 3g to 2g is asking me for PIN
When I'm doing it mannualy (GSM to WCMDA switching) system never ask for it.
B.
Hi
In the options page you can set the pin code. In this way CMP will enter automatically the pin when switches the band....
fllysurfer said:
I´ve tried all day switching between 2G and 3G and it seem to work seamlessly, which comes as a huge plus for me to save on battery when 3G is not needed.
One thing I don´t get.. the HIDE button. CMP is hidden but how to unhide it without having to press the icon to launch it again.
Update: Yes it asks for the PIN but naturally it has to since it´s reestablishing a connection to the Celular provider.
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Well, I usually assign a hw button to CommMgrPro. Raphael has few buttons so I assigned long press phone button to CMP. CMP installs a Today plugin and a tray icon to manupulate CMP directly from today screen or bring it to front but you cannot see them with touchflo 3d. Sorry for not saying it before, you can set pic code in options dialog so cmp will enter pin code automatically....
Dani
fllysurfer said:
I´m curious to see how much battery economy this will bring when switching off 3G? I´ll post my findings. What do you mean by speaker volume (in call?).
thanks
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No, system volume. You can control ring tone and ring volume as a action associated to enter/exit in a profile/place (using cell ID)
It was short and 5min test - I'll check everything once again tomorrow and let you know.
Regards
B.
For those who want to check the 3g effect on the battery live. There is a tab on CMP that shows graphically the battery evolution in different scales of time and if you touch two points it tells you the speed, for example, 6 units per hour. Ok, let your device during some hours in 3g and check the drain speed. Do the same test using 2g. As you will see battery live lasts double (or more) using 2g...
Great Commmanager Replacement
Testing for about 15 mins now and so far no problems.
Although the ON/OFF switching for phone with the "no time limit" function is not very responsive. I had to click another icon before i could switch it on again.
Great work on the battery graphs very useful
I will report tomorrow after some intesive usage.
WatskeBart said:
Testing for about 15 mins now and so far no problems.
Although the ON/OFF switching for phone with the "no time limit" function is not very responsive. I had to click another icon before i could switch it on again.
Great work on the battery graphs very useful
I will report tomorrow after some intesive usage.
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hehe I see to tested it deeply. Turn on phone with time limit was disabled one month ago because the people requested in this way. Anyway I will remove the time limit dialog to avoid confussion....
CommManager replacement is only a little feature. The main one is let CMP (CommMgrPro) to set the state of the device (phone, band, BT, WIFI, speaker, connections, beam, messaging, brightness, ring tone, today theme, call forward, open and close programs, etc) depending on your current location by cell id (home, work, cinema, etc) and weekday/hour. In this way the state of the device will be different on your work&monday&10:00 than on home&sunday&13:00, isnt it?
Dani
Hi
I ve uploaded a new beta (b6). It warns if you want to change the band but you didnt set the pin code on options and a few more things. If you look at the screenshots on first post you will see there is a screen dedicated to the current (different than the battery page)with two lines, one for instant current drain and other for average. In this way is easy to check the current (in mA) needed for your device under different circunstances (wifi, band, gps, etc) and the temperature of the battery (important for the people like me having problems with device not charging if running gps/tomtom in a warm day).
ps: Talking about gps and temperature, finally I bought and A/C mount system so the battery's temperature is always low and no problem charging....
Hi Daniel,
So I received my Touch Pro today, and the first program I installed was CMP
Couple of issues:
- I installed without deactivating Touch Flo 3D, so I got an error message when the program first launched (I guess it couldn't launch the today plugin).
- If I deactivate the Touch Flo 3D, the icons in the plugin are stil QVGA. Same thing if you change the icons of the location (which makes it difficult to select the right one, as they are not for the software where the seem to be on the screen, if you see what I mean)
- Same thing for the fonts on mostpages / menus. Most of them are very small (hard coded for QVGA I guess) which makes them much harder to reads than on a QVGA device. The location line, or the function icons at the bottom of the main screen, are normal size. Everything else is small (for example, "there is a newer version").
- When Touch Flo 3D is activated, there is no directaccess to CMP (lower right globe icon), but I guess that's normal.
Otherwise, everything seems to work fine. I guess most of this is VGA related rather than Touch Pro related, but here you go, I'm coming from CMP on a Tytn II...
Edit: forgot to specify that the speaker setting and the band switching seems to work fine.
Hi
Thank you very much for your comments and help. Fortunately most of those issues are related with the sizzo vga skin so can be changed modifying the file skin.xml. Modify and enhance the vga skizzo skin is one of the pending things to do. Please follow reporting anything you see
Hi Daniel,
Done a bit more testing today, and I found out that there are two connections in CMP (T-mobile PicMessage and T-Mobile Internet), while I have only one connection setup by default (T-mobile).
They are both enabled, none of them is always on, and only the PicMessage is connected.
Is this normal? I'm quite sure I had only one on my Vario III. Which one do I need to get my push email? If I want to get my exchange email as it arrives, do I need to switch one of these to always on? (by the way, my exchange server is setup properly, and it works thanks to MrVanx...).
Hi Manni
CMP shows all the connectios,even hidden connection. Probably in the connections wizard your operator set up the second connection for other pourposes like mms,wap,etc.
If you re using direct push(like me) you dont need to mark any connection as "always on" because activesync will keep the connection alive....
Dani
danielherrero said:
Hi Manni
CMP shows all the connectios,even hidden connection. Probably in the connections wizard your operator set up the second connection for other pourposes like mms,wap,etc.
If you re using direct push(like me) you dont need to mark any connection as "always on" because activesync will keep the connection alive....
Dani
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Thanks a lot for the clarification!
I've tested both b5 and b6 versions on orygial HTC rom.
Discovered that :
1. Cannot clear history of battery usage in CURRENT tab - on BATTERY tab this feature works fine
2. Cannot verify database integristy - error message appear
3. Switching between G2 and G3 works smooth - tested VERY intensivly for last 3-4 days.
Small hints
1. there are two graphs on main screen - on the left is graph for battery and on the right for available field. Is nice of you if you can just create the link between battery graph on main screen and CURRENT/BATTERY tab on settings. This is common problem that Touch Pro battery has very short lifetime and I'm very interested in checking which action is draining my battery more than normal - graph is perfect place for this.
5. Last suggestion for booting TP and application starting process. Everytime when I'm performing soft reset or just starting device, I'm waiting to put my PIN as fast as possible to get my TP online, but THEN CommManPro LOGO is showing and grrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm must wait next 5sek to tap my PIN.
You know, this is not a problem if you are using your phone for private, and there is no more than 3-4 calls from you sister/girlfriend/mother/lover by day, but I'm using my TP for buisness (and testing everything in the same time) manner so time when I'm available is critical - one missed call (because of 5sek delay) and couple of bucks less in my pocket
If it possible for you to just pospone CommManPro to starting just after TF3D it's nice!
Regards
B.

No email in standby...

Hey all,
Recently i've been having some problems with my emails coming through to my handset. I have the settings set to send/receive every 5 minutes.. but for some reason if my screen is turned off (phone on standby) no email comes through but when i turn my screen back on the emails come.
Has anyone else has this problem? I've never had this problem before it started out of no where...
Which software are you using as your email handler?
The original software that came with the phone.. I havn't installed anything on the phone its at its original state...
jayt2008 said:
Hey all,
Recently i've been having some problems with my emails coming through to my handset. I have the settings set to send/receive every 5 minutes.. but for some reason if my screen is turned off (phone on standby) no email comes through but when i turn my screen back on the emails come.
Has anyone else has this problem? I've never had this problem before it started out of no where...
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are you using wifi or data connections? If its wifi do you have wifi enabled during standby?
i am using data...like i said if my screen is turned on theres no problems at all but its just when the screen is off in stand by mode no emails will come through..
This is a huuuuge issue which stems from the dawn of WM6. To be honest, it works sporadically for me. A few hours of no email, then a whole group arrives at a time. Sometimes it wont check by itself all day. Other times it will go 1-2 days without missing a beat. This makes it really hard to determine if what I have been doing fixes it.
Here are links to threads I have dug up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420513
^This is not a good fix imo, as it forces your data connection to be awake 24/7, killing your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437199&page=2
^ I am using the outlook email scheduler. Not sure if its working, or placebo. It still doesnt stick to every 30 mins, sometimes an hour late heh. At least you can have day/night settings and weekend settings. Maybe not a perfect fix, but increases email checking options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362
^ Many Kaiser users had/have same problem, no solution found.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445434
^Same problem, no fix in the Blackstone forum.
Thanks everyone for the help.
There has to be some kind of fix out there somewhere.. its unreliable
could try out the seven beta app
If I might make a suggestion...
Maybe you should edit the thread title to "No email in standby" as "Email..." doesn't really tell the story, more people will be likely to find it and post a solution
Problem solved with my Touch Pro
I also had this problem but I found the settings to change this. But you do need schaps advanced config 3 (and a regeditor) to make it happen. Now i always receive my email, it checks every 10 minutes, even in standby mode, with my own data connection.
With a registry editor go to:
HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Providers - [GUID] - Connections - [Connection Name] - Always On
and change this value from 0 to 1
(You can also change this setting with Schaps' Advanced Config under menu (right softkey) - More Settings - Connections.
Here you can select "Always On" for the type of data-connection that you use to receive your email)
The second thing is using advanced config and change the setting under power management:
- AC resuming from suspend timeout
- Battery resuming from suspend timeout
I have changed both to 60 seconds.
Now my touch pro is notifying me of new email, even in standby mode.
Good luck
^ by forcing the eternal data connection, are you not killing the battery? I think the phone should be able to connect, query, download emails, disconnect at set intervals while in standby. I think it is supposed to, but for some reason it doesn't do it reliably.
The way I have done it is to use SKSchema to watch for a data connection being connected and turn on the screen when this event happens. This wakes th ephone up and is able to download email. Then I use advance config to close inactive data connection after 10 seconds. As the phone is awake the data disconnects fine. As long as your phones screen is set not to power off quickly, mine is a minute it should be fine.
In the last day I got fed up with TF3D again and turned it off, email seems to check every 30 minutes. I'll let it go for a few days to make sure its not placebo effect.
Anybody here having this problem while manila disabled? Perhaps there is some obscure power saving setting running in the background of manila
Well i have no idea how to fix this problem.. i have played with my phone to try figure it out but nothing.
I will probably have to take rvjacobs advice and see if that works.
It looks like quite a few people are having this same problem.
Its weird.. If my phone is on standby no email comes through..but if its on standby and an SMS comes through, the screen doesnt wake but the email also comes through..
not sure whats happening there.
Mine does it with TF3D disabled also. Thats why I have to use SKSchema to turn the screen on when it detects an internet connection. This way, mail comes through fine and it also auto disconnects the data.
I can now confirm that the issue is still there, regardless of TF3D. Damn, I've tried everything, maybe this is a dead end... Maybe wm 6.5 will see a solution
Maybe it helps you to look for/change the following key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts]
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
If you've got these values in the registry, try to cange them to
"dword:0000001e"
It's the time in seconds the device keeps running (without turning on the display) when it's automaticly woke up from the suspend mode (i.e. to look for mails). And if the value is "1", the time might be to short for picking up your emails.
With the new value you set the time up to 30 seconds.
The key exists since WM2003 and most of roms had a higher value in the past. But in the last time more and more roms come with a value of 1. I think its because the manufacturers want to get a good standby time for the devices...
I hope it works for you and you won't have to wait for WM6.5
Thanks for that deroland! I did manage to find them in the reg but it just says "Value Data 1".. doesnt say anything like "dword:00000001"?
I am new to this whole thing so it may be a stupid mistake im making..
jayt2008 said:
Thanks for that deroland! I did manage to find them in the reg but it just says "Value Data 1".. doesnt say anything like "dword:00000001"?
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Then your value is like "dword:00000001". This is a hexdecimal dword key.
So your device has one second to look for new mails.
Try to change it to "1e" and I hope it will help you.
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I am new to this whole thing so it may be a stupid mistake im making..
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The only stupid thing is that there is no open support by the manufacturers of the devices and microsoft for windows mobile. They only want to make their money ignoring the problem we have by the stuff they sell.
deroland said:
Maybe it helps you to look for/change the following key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts]
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
If you've got these values in the registry, try to cange them to
"dword:0000001e"
It's the time in seconds the device keeps running (without turning on the display) when it's automaticly woke up from the suspend mode (i.e. to look for mails). And if the value is "1", the time might be to short for picking up your emails.
With the new value you set the time up to 30 seconds.
The key exists since WM2003 and most of roms had a higher value in the past. But in the last time more and more roms come with a value of 1. I think its because the manufacturers want to get a good standby time for the devices...
I hope it works for you and you won't have to wait for WM6.5
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This is a setting which can be changed in advanced config, under power. I have mine set to 90 seconds, to no avail. I think this is what is causing it to work sporadically, as opposed to not at all.

TP2 and Imagio Battery Useage

Okay, I have an Imagio (please don't judge me ) and like many of you TP2 owners, the only real complaint I have about the phone is the battery life.
For me, I rely heavily on the device as a phone first (no big surprise, right?), email second, and then text and internet. Based on how I use my phone, I think the biggest contributor to my quick battery drain is the fact I have to leave my data connection 'on' to auto send/receive email.
I'm interested to know if there's a tweak or something out there that would allow me to leave my data 'off', automatically turn it 'on' to send/receive email at my specified interval, and then turn it 'off' again once completed. I know I could do that manually but was curious if there's something out there that could run in the background.
Also, thinking about it, has anyone looked into changing the weather tab uppdate time? I'm also wondering if the weather sync feature is sucking battery power?
Ok, my TP2 with Telus I have on data all the time, with push email (so more frequently goes active) and have no problems at all with battery usage. I can go several days between charges, but don't because I plug my phone in every night anyway.
How much talk time do you have on the phone on an average day? How many emails do you recieve? Is it exchange based on POP/IMAP?
You can easily set up the email sync itself to be manual, i.e. open your email app and click on send/recv - this way it won't hop on itself to grab emails all the time which will help with your battery life, but not really by much.
Similarly just set the weather application not to update automatically.
Keep in mind that a single phone call (on average) lasts about 3 minutes, a single data session lasts only a few seconds.
But even if you still want it to send/recv at a specified interval then when the connection is dormant (i.e. in between scheduled send/recv) it's not really taking any more power than if it was "offline" - this is just a state that both ends know, not an always-active transmit/receive when there is no actual data.
If you really need more battery life then just wait a few seconds when you check your email or the weather for it to go online and grab the data on demand.
Thanks for the reply Telek. Since I've had the phone, my talk time per day has been pretty low, relatively speaking. I seem to notice the drain after the phone's been sitting idle. I charge daily but if I didn't, I'm guessing I wouldn't come near several days on a single one.
I do get poor reception while I'm in my house and I'm thinking that might have something to do with it. What you wrote about the data connection while inactive makes a lot of sense - I should probably be looking elsewhere.
Also, my phone is set to CDMA only in case any viewers are thinking of asking the question.
Well poorer reception will hurt battery life, but only while the phone is active. CDMA signals all have to reach the tower at the same strength (IIRC) so if a phone has poorer reception it will have to up it's broadcast power.
How many emails are you getting daily? Is it feasible to just go to "on demand" and manually do a send/recv to see if that helps your battery life?
It's possible that the phone isn't going into sleep mode, or times out at a much longer interval than normal. Perhaps try going into the power management page and shrinking the timeouts?
Not sure what else to suggest - maybe you just have a bad battery?
I am in the same boat here. Although I use pop and don't get that much email. I use it as a phone, text, then data. Just through a days use, sometimes not making a phone call at all my battery will be near death. I HAVE to charge it daily. I have a car charger, charger at work, and 2 chargers at home so I always can charge so it isn't that big of a deal for me. My signal strength is normally above 70% through my house and work.
I am ready to try out a new rom to see if that makes a difference.
PS not trying to thread steal but throwing out some info that might help.
I have to charge my TP2 like 3 times a day. Between Twitter, email, and reading on the net it goes pretty fast.
My battery life isnt too good either...I have email set to check every 2 hours. If i browse the net for about 15 minutes I lose a notch in battery life. I have to charge every night too!!
I got the 2100 extended battery in the mail today, im going to try it out and see how it does...if it's not a big improvement then im sending it back...the extended battery cover is ugly and slightly bulky so I dont like that to well...
Has anyone fooled around with the power management settings in ATC? If so, any notable changes worht exploring?
Well for my usage on a Sprint Touch Pro 2, I get good battery life. I make maybe 10 calls a day but each call is less than 2 minutes.
I surf the web maybe an hour a day and send + receive maybe 75-100 texts a day. I dont check my email to often.
Maybe 3 times a day I press Send/Receive but after I finish my stuff, I go to Communications and turn off my Data Connection.
At the end of the day I have about 60%. Although I have my backlight set at 30%. Others like it halfway and others fully set.
30% is ok for me indoors but once outside I turn it up to 80% if I really need too but then set it back to 30% once indoors.
Some solutions to Imagio battery drain
My 1st Imagio had no problem with battery, but the "end" key broke so I had a replacement sent. The replacement had nicks on screen and major battery drain, with overnight charge, by 3:00pm I had 5% left. So I sent for 2nd replacement. Same problem with the battery, fully drained by midday. Frustrated, I went to Verizon and requested replacement battery. All seemed well at first. Then, the new battery began to drain. I started eliminating programs running and now, at 10:00pm, I still have 72%, I talked, texted, sent pic mssg, got email, updated weather...etc. This is what I changed.
I turned the phone to CDMA only.
I changed input back to default HTC qwerty (I had sip change to swype)
I set email to check once a day, but I hit send/receive periodically
I set weather to check once a day.
Sorry, but I also uninstalled "codyppc performance booster"
I reinabled Auto Divice lock. (this seemed to help save battery by locking)
I am running spb mobile shell 3.5 and WM 6.5 interface. Whenever I run the HTC Touchflo3D it seems to drain more battery, along with suck up memory.
I check running applications often, reset a couple times a day. I am having an issue with my spb time alarm going off in the morning though. I will try something tonight to eliminate that as the culprit. Overall, I think anything set to run regularly will drain the battery. With these fixes, now I LOVE THIS PHONE. I have all my programs on it, lots of program and storage memory left, (more than I had out of the box) tweaked just the way I like. Hope this helps someone.
Please don't forget Clean Ram(search xda) , helped me alot.

New to the thunderbolt? Look here before posting

I'm hoping this helps out I know with all the hype of the Thunderbolt there's quite a few users new to android that see how people are customizing and wanting to know, and repeat after repeat of questions and bringing a lot of unneeded hostility around here. Feel free to add what ever you guys think is something that is repetitively brought up. I'm running kind of short on sleep, so if I left anything out let me know!
Remember to always follow instructions and SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH before making a new thread
Remember to always Wipe Data/Factory reset/Wipe cache/wipe dalvik cache to insure a clean, fresh bug free install.
Also ALWAYS make a backup of what ever current rom before flashing a new one
Lastly, DO NOT treat the devs with disrespect they are losing sleep/girlfriends/what ever to give us these roms and kernels and everything else for free. If something gets messed up do not come at them with hostility or it will only be returned. The people of XDA will HELP you, but only if you've searched and tried to help yourself first. Also don't forget to donate to the dev's from time to time for their monster/beer/hookers and all their time and effort.
Thunderbolt Root Users Dictionary:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143188
Back up Date before rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193901
How To Root your Thunderbolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
How to Root via Mac OS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011623
REVOLUTIONARY ROOTwww.revoultionary.io
Easy Auto Root:(Although this is not the recommended way, I've used it before and had no issues.)
Video guide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQYoeFrJ1Jk
Download links
TB Auto-Root : http://www.multiupload.com/NOK55G17MZ
HTC SYNC : http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-and-Shell/Windows/HTC-Sync-81096.shtml
Lost data after rooting? Try these steps
oneders65 said:
This is what I did.
1.) Flashed my phone back to Stock S-ON usine this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
when you reboot the phone make sure you wait until you get a 3G/4G signal. If you start the process of setting up your phone to quick it will cause your phone not to activate the data connection.
2.) ROOTED my phone and at each boot made sure I had 3G/4G connection before setting up phone. (Downgrade and Upgrade).
3.) This let me keep my data connection all the way through.
Credits
Scotty2, jamezelle, jcase, and all of Team AndIRC
Testers, especially ProTekk and Trident
Thanks to scotty2 for WPThis
Busybox was pulled from a CyanogenMod ROM, source should be available here
psneuter was pulled from somewhere, credit to scotty2, source here
All firmware credit goes to 911sniper
Jaroslav from Android Police for editorial help
dbzfanatic
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How To UNROOT your thunderbolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423&highlight=Un+root
To help decide whether you want Gingerbread or Froyo
Differences between Gingerbread and Froyo
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/01/differences-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-2-3-gingerbread.html
ROMS and Kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081930
Team Mikmik aka Gingeritis ROMs since people don't know where they went
http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=271
I see CyanogenMod around what is that?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
I installed a GB rom and all my texts time stamps are off
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mattprecious.smsfix&feature=search_result
Activate>use phone time has fixed every issue with this for me!
Radios:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048128&highlight=radio
Thunderbolt Themes and Apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=944
How to help Improve battery life (Courtesy of Guitarchris123):
If you easily get a full day's use with stock settings, then ignore this. But the ThunderBolt is a powerful 1GHz smartphone made by HTC with a fairly small stock battery, large 4.3" screen, LTE capability, and Sense UI, so battery life may be a concern to you. There is no magic app or single technique that will make your battery last all day with heavy use, but if you utilize some of the following tips you WILL notice a significant increase in your battery life. Everyone's use is different, so 6-9 hours on one charge may be enough for some while others need 12-15 hours. Some of these may not be necessary, appropriate, or desirable for all users, so just pick which ones work for your purposes and preferences. You might prefer to keep using some of the particular features mentioned, as the benefit for you might outweigh the minimal savings in battery life. The point of this is to show people how to disable or limit features they don't need, not force them to shut down everything the phone was built to do. Feel free to add your own suggestions as well or ask any questions about the techniques.
1. Settings: (use an app or widget that helps you quickly toggle them, eg. built-in widgets, or from market such as Elixir, Quick Settings, or MySettings)
a. Screen –go to settings/display, turn down Brightness (20-30%), set Timeout to 30 secs, manually turn off by quickly pushing top button when not using anymore (instead of waiting). I have personally found that I like setting timeout at 1 min better, and manually turning off the screen with the top button every time I am done using it before I put it down or away in my pocket, that way it doesn't waste itself timing out or shut off on me when I don't want it to yet.
b. GPS – always turn off when not using, and plug into car charger (or car dock if you have one) during extended use
c. Bluetooth – always turn off when not using
d. 4G – always turn off when not using, only use when you need the speed, (the TB will get a toggle either in an update or in app form at some point, in the meantime there are several methods to accomplish this)
e. Mobile hotspot – always turn off when not using, plug into charger when in use if you can
f. WiFi – turn off when not near a WiFi signal for an extended period of time, but always use when available (faster than 3G, uses less battery), go to settings/wireless & networks/WiFi settings, press menu button and tap Advanced then WiFi Sleep policy and select“Never”, this sounds counter-intuitive, but it actually uses less power because when WiFi sleeps 3G or 4G wakes up to sync, get email, and retrieve other data (WiFi connection disables 3G/4G). Also uncheck Best WiFi Performance if its checked.
2. Background/wallpaper - use a static image instead of a live wallpaper (but these are cool, so use one if you really want to, they only drain for the short amount of time you are looking at the launcher screens). Many say the live wallpaper drain is minimal, but I noticed a significant amount while using a live one so I went to static. Have any of you tried both and noticed much of a difference yet?
3. Window animations – go to settings/sound & display/animation and select“no animations”
4. Keyboard vibration – turn off vibration function (haptic feedback) for when you hit a key (helps with speed too), go to settings/language & keyboard/touch input/text input and uncheck vibrate when typing, you can disable haptic feedback in other areas of the system by going to settings/sound, and uncheck vibrate feedback
5. Notification lights – unless you really want/need to know when something happens on your phone when you are not looking, go to settings/display/notification flash and uncheck all the boxes
6. Vibration – unless you really want this function, go to settings/sound, and uncheck vibrate
7. Monitor battery use - go to menu/settings/about phone/battery use, this will show you what is eating the most battery, uninstall troublesome unneeded app, use Running services widget by going to shortcut/settings (helps identify processes running in the background and foreground), if you want more detail check out SystemPanel in the app market, if you want to be alerted to "rogue" apps check out Watchdog Task Manager in the app market
8. Disable“always-on mobile data”– go to settings/wireless & networks/mobile networks, uncheck “Enable always-on mobile data,”you will still receive emails, texts, and phone calls, as well as internet usage, but it may cause connectivity problems in some third party apps (use manual refresh feature when opening apps to update online data)
9. WiFi and 4G network notifications – go to settings/wireless & networks and uncheck Network notification box (so phone will not constantly scan to look for open networks to tell you about)
10. Background data – if you are not using Google life-management services, go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck Background data box (so that apps cannot sync, send, and receive data whenever it wants to, even if not currently using them). Add a homescreen shortcut to quickly toggle this (allows you to update/sync only when you want/need to).
11. Auto-sync – uncheck Auto-sync in settings/accounts & sync, or at least limit what apps are set to sync, it is better to manually sync/update/refresh in the app when you open it (set to update at launch), set update/notification frequency (polling schedule), if you do not want to turn off auto sync, just change widget or app update/notification frequency (refresh interval) in settings/accounts & sync to 30 mins or 1-2 hours, or better yet set it to update at launch, useful for Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, news, weather, Google apps, and stocks, be sure to manually sync/back up your contacts every once in a while in case you lose your phone or break it
12. Email – change sync option in settings, set email check frequency to 30 mins or 1 hour, or as items arrive, or better yet set it to never and manually refresh when you want to check/read your email
13. Camera app(s) – make sure they are not running in the background when not in use, exit/close when done
14. Video chat app(s) – make sure they are not running in the background when not in use, exit/close when done
15. Streaming app(s) – make sure they are not running in the background when not in use, exit/close when done, try to limit use or plug into a charger during use if you can
16. Google Talk – press Menu then tap All apps/talk/menu/settings and uncheck automatically sign in, make sure you exit the application by going to menu/more and selecting sign out when you are done (exiting the app by pressing home or back keys will not sign you out), if you want to receive IMs just open the application again
17. Adobe Flash Player – open browser, hit menu key, go to settings/enable plug-ins and set it to“On demand”(this way the browser only loads flash content when instructed to do so)
18. Update apps – hit menu key and to go My Apps to check for updates, even if you have selected“update automatically”because some apps require you to manually install updates (apps often get updated to use less power)
19. Location settings (updated) – go to settings/location settings. It is ok to have all of these checked, because it is the apps that use the GPS and consume power, not having these settings selected. GPS is only active when apps using it are in use.
20. Task killer – do not use them, uninstall if you currently have one, can harm phone and consume battery, just use back arrow key to exit apps instead of home key, simply monitor rogue apps instead and uninstall/replace. These are especially bad on pre-installed apps and services (many things rely on each other), so never "auto-kill" or "kill all." If you must use one, only use it on apps that you have installed that are misbehaving, otherwise let Android do it on its own.
21. Anti-virus – do not use them, uninstall if you currently have one, only download and use periodically or when you suspect a problem, do not download suspicious apps (check reviews and rating in market first)
22. Ad blocker – do not use them, uninstall if you currently have one
23. Battery meter accuracy – go to data/system and delete“batterystats.bin”after you have charged your phone to 100%
24. Tasker – can be used to automate settings (eg. based on time of day or app launched)
25. Juice Defender + Ultimate Juice – can be used to automate settings (eg. based on time of day or location)
26. Screebl - keeps backlight on while holding phone in "use" (vertical) position and turns it off when laying flat
27. Rebooting - reboot phone every few days
28. Delete unnecessary apps – determine which apps you do not need or use anymore and uninstall them, determine which apps you keep are causing the most battery drain and see if a comparable replacement from the market will do better
29. Widgets – turn off animations, do not use too many of them (choose them wisely), and delete unnecessary ones, they pull data in the background. At least make the interval/frequency of sync/updates longer for the ones you have. It may be better just to open some apps themselves instead of using the widget. Disable auto-updates on HTC Weather widget or at least set it to every few hours, manually update by tapping update icon on bottom of widget. Note that widgets that display battery, CPU, and memory utilization consume some power because they are polling the system for information.
30. No service – turn off phone or go into Airplane mode when you are in an area that does not have cell service
31. Chargers – have them handy at home, at work, and in car, and plug in when available. Try to get a 1A charger (same as included wall charger), many cheap aftermarket car chargers are only 500mAh and will not be enough to handle the GPS. VZW's car charger is 750mAh.
32. Rooting – (there are a lot more techniques that can be used with a rooted phone, such as removing bloatware and underclocking when then screen is off, but I will save that for a later thread)
33. If all else fails, buy an extended battery or have a spare handy just in case
Update1 - I came across another technique, it sounds a little strange but it apparently came from HTC regarding the EVO...some users appeared to have experienced gains from it:
34. "Calibrate" battery - (1) Turn device ON, charge it for 8 hours (or until LED turns green), (2) unplug and turn it OFF, plug it back in and charge for 1 hour (or until LED turns green), (3) unplug and turn it ON, wait 2 minutes, turn it OFF, plug it back in, and charge for 1 hour (or until LED turns green), (4) unplug it, turn it ON, and use normally. Repeat once a month or so.
Update2 - I found a few more things to suggest
35. Blockbuster app - open app, download update from market, then go to menu/settings and tap "disable movie updates." The app is set to automatically periodically scan for updates by default, and requires the new update to turn this off.
36. Friendstream - delete the widget from your home screen, open app and go to menu/settings and select update when opened. This way it isn't constantly refreshing, but rather only does so when you want to look at it by opening the app.
37. Signal strength - whether 3G, 4G, or WiFi, if whatever you are trying to connect to has a low signal strength the TB's battery will be draining trying to connect. Keep an eye on your connections, and try to be aware of when you are in poor signal areas and toggle off or switch connections if you can. Also keep in mind where your "fringe" areas are (ie. bounces between 3G/LTE/1X)
38. Apps - not all 3rd party apps are optimized for the TB, be sure to read reviews/ratings in the market to see what problems other users have had with them. Monitor your apps to see if any of them are hogging system resources (eg. CPU, RAM) and draining your battery, and delete or replace them accordingly. And remember to set the sync/update/notification frequency at longer intervals in settings within the apps that connect to the internet frequently.
39. Power saver - go to settings/power, and check enable power saver, the go to power saver settings and tweak (basically does a lot of the things we've talked about here for you automatically when you get low on battery, in case some things are left on or on higher settings than needed)
Another Battery Saver 3g/4g toggle switch:
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.andirc.lteonfoff&feature=search_result
What is SetCPU and where do I get it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Just because it's free doesn't mean you shouldn't donate a little something to the dev!
Commonly used widgets
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761517
How do I customize my home page and change the docks and such?
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.adw.launcher&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fede.launcher&feature=search_result
This is a nice and concise introduction. I needed this last week!
Upvoted for the phrase "beer and hookers."
One stop shop very nice!!!!....
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Thanks for that. I am going to have my wife read this so she can understand more on what to do with her phone, since it is not rooted and still has all that bloatware.
My phone is rooted and I have been testing with 4gLTE off/on, and seriously gained 5 hours when 4gLTE was turned off.
17-18 Hours Almost made it to 19 hours - 4gLTE off - This is with moderate use call/text/IM and some gameplay.
13-14 Hours - 4gLTE on - This is the same as above.
Trying now to talk my wife into letting me root her phone, but alas it is her phone and her choice.
Also if you want to update there is a 4G/LTE app in the Marketplace for the toggle - just search in the Market - LTE - it will show up as a Red Lightning bolt in a grey Circle.
Excellent post!
scubaskm said:
Thanks for that. I am going to have my wife read this so she can understand more on what to do with her phone, since it is not rooted and still has all that bloatware.
My phone is rooted and I have been testing with 4gLTE off/on, and seriously gained 5 hours when 4gLTE was turned off.
17-18 Hours Almost made it to 19 hours - 4gLTE off - This is with moderate use call/text/IM and some gameplay.
13-14 Hours - 4gLTE on - This is the same as above.
Trying now to talk my wife into letting me root her phone, but alas it is her phone and her choice.
Also if you want to update there is a 4G/LTE app in the Marketplace for the toggle - just search in the Market - LTE - it will show up as a Red Lightning bolt in a grey Circle.
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Ah, very good! I forgot about the toggle switch. Added and thanked!
Lots of good info, thanks
Awesome, thanks for the tips, should make my experience better.
This is a great post!! I def used some of the battery saving techniques.
Awesome information - wish I would have found this when I first bought my Thunderbolt... better to learn from others than trial and error method sometimes. lol
Thank you for the info... Somw i knew some i didn't... Great one stop for quick reminder..
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Good stuff. Thank you.
Great post. Just one question. Why do ad-blockers use more battery? Wouldn't it decrease data use and thus battery since it prevents ads from being downloaded?
Thanks for the info!!
def a one stop shop. thank you. info much needed.
Sorry kind of falling behind on updates. Anyone think anything needs to be added???
ScoobarSTI said:
Sorry kind of falling behind on updates. Anyone think anything needs to be added???
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may want to add in the "how to unroot for people who used revolutionary" thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310014&highlight=revolutionary
Rooted with revolutionary...lost my gps CM7 ROM
Rooted my TB...with revolutionary, installed CM7 ROM. Now my gps doesn't work. Any ideas. Any advice?
I think CM7 has issues with GPS.
Thanks !!
Using Juice Defender lets me go a day and a half without charging. It's awesome !

Green Power vs JuiceDefender

Hello everyone!
I was just wondering between these two apps...
Which one works better for you and if will be great if you can share your configuration!!
Also, does anyone knows is any of these two disable whatsapp and gmail notifications?
Many thanks for sharing!
Cheers!
IMHO
I can answer about Green Power Premium:
It doesn't have such option like disable notifications. He does such thing like disables data connection for amount of time you chose (for me it is 15min) and then enables data connection for amount of time you choose (for me it is 2min)
Now my Galaxy Note works 2 times longer (from 10h to 20h)
katinsh said:
I can answer about Green Power Premium:
It doesn't have such option like disable notifications. He does such thing like disables data connection for amount of time you chose (for me it is 15min) and then enables data connection for amount of time you choose (for me it is 2min)
Now my Galaxy Note works 2 times longer (from 10h to 20h)
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WOW! double time!!
thanks for sharing!
I have been trying both, and while both of them seem to deliver a noticeable reduction in power draw (actually in my case a dramatic reduction), of the two I'd have to give my vote to GreenPower (I'm using the full version). The power reduction is at least as good as Juice Defender Ultimate, and the premium version is significantly cheaper.
Both work by turning various features (mainly Wi-fi/3g/BlueTooth) on and off automatically, but as result can cause delays in things like receiving push-mail and that kind of thing. With Juice-Defender I found this to be quite noticeable, but I'd have to say that with Green-Power I haven't really noticed it slowing down messaging or anything else.......
I've used them both - and deleted them both. I'd rather manage power myself.
i am using 2x Battery for me this is the best. simple and clean.
I usually use JuiceDefender but decided to try out Green Power. I really like it but I have a hard time getting my phone to sleep properly on GP.
i use widgetsoid and just enable my connection when i want it (wifi/3g)
i could never find the proper app that did exactly what i wanted- rather just have control.
going that was and using the phone an average amount my battery goes from 100 -> 75 from the time i wake up (7am) to the time i got to bed (12-1 am)
the 2500mah battery is pretty good!
With JuiceDefender I can get my phone to sleep 95%+ of the time but with GreenPower, my cpu is only sleep 40%+. Can anyone give me tips to get my cpu to sleep more to preserve battery?
katinsh said:
I can answer about Green Power Premium:
It doesn't have such option like disable notifications. He does such thing like disables data connection for amount of time you chose (for me it is 15min) and then enables data connection for amount of time you choose (for me it is 2min)
Now my Galaxy Note works 2 times longer (from 10h to 20h)
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Just out of interest, what happens when you browse the web and GreenPower has turned off the Data Connection?
Or you're watching a youtube video and it decides its time to turn off data?
Tried both versions and found green power premium to work better for me. (Price was a good point too.)
However the next day I found that if I left my phone for a while (Around 1 1/2 to 2 hours), the display would not turn on and If I called the phone it would not ring. Only way to fix this was to press the power button for 10 seconds to reset the phone.
Uninstalled green power to see if this was the cause and hasn't happened since.
Was wondering if something similar has happened to other people?
I had to go back to JuiceDefender since I couldn't get my phone to go into deep sleep with GreenPower.
Hi, i went for Green Power. I found it simpler to configure, more focused on the job. Juice Defender has to much possible settings and complexity, this makes it a great tool but might also lead to poor efficiency.
I have never used green power before but im on juice defender. I have experienced auto turn off by the note due to a set cpu settings that govern lower clock to cpu at a certain condition. Due to the big display on note i think lower cpu clock wont do it. Because of that the device turned off itself. Upon failure to operate. Hope this solves your problem
I have tried JuiceDefender but ultimately prefer to do everything manually. Some how I always feel the auto manage apps will have everything off precisely when you need it. I use the SwitchPro widget to quickly enable/disable the various radios from my home screen and it works great.
@ Aldragor
I have/had the same problem. In the beginning I thought that my launcher would be the cause for this problem, but after I disabled my Green Power Premium it hasn't happend since now.
Juice defender ultimate, the feature of switching 2g 3g on stock ROM alone was worth the price!
After figuring out how to config GreenPower properly, I went back to it.
I used JuiceDefender and thought it was great.... when it worked. However, I used it mostly as a scheduler with about 15% battery saving which I took as the icing on the cake.
I want all connections on during the day (peak) so I can take skype calls, etc.. When I'm home, I just want to periodically check for mails, etc (so have connection enable every 15min) and when I go to bed I don't want to be disturbed by emails, messages, etc but still want phone/sms on in case there is an emergency. And most of all, I didn't want to have to manually do that every day.
Problem was that it never really stuck to the schedules. This was the ultimate version but it was a crack as they never offered the ultimate on a trial. I wanted to evaluate the ultimate and buy if it did the job. So, it might have been a bad crack which caused the problem, but I guess I'll never know as I don't want to risk wasting the money if the schedule problem persists.
I am a lover of juice, it keeps he juice in and right

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