Numpty Physics for WinMobile - General Topics

Hi all,
I've managed to port Numpty Physics to WindowsMobile devices. It works fine with Asus MyPal A696 and the emulator. Only QVGA version.
"return" button should undo the last stroke, some of the application buttons should pause the game, rest of them should exit the game. You can move to the next level with left/right. Some additional levels can be found on the internet.
Cheers!
The Numpty Physics2 file should is working on HTC Touch Diamond which has Qualcomm chipset, maybe it'll work for you guys with "Not a valid pocket PC application"

works on an artemis ;-)

How the heck do I uninstall this? FOr the joy of it, I tried, it installed, then said it wasn't a valid pocket pc app. I go to remove programs, and it's not in the list of programs...

Can just install the .cab as usual and it's supposed to work?
Just checking as you mention 'and the emulator' in your post.
And if i need an emulator, which one and where can i get it?

Uninstallation works for me on the emulator... I've just packaged the binaries to .cab. You can just delete the folder Program Files\numptyphysics.
The whole game should work "out of the box".

cPT.cAPSLOCK said:
Can just install the .cab as usual and it's supposed to work?
Just checking as you mention 'and the emulator' in your post.
And if i need an emulator, which one and where can i get it?
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You don't need it, it's compiled for Windows Mobile. The emulator is a PC application which simulates Pocket PC device, it comes with Visual Studio.

cthulu said:
You don't need it, it's compiled for Windows Mobile. The emulator is a PC application which simulates Pocket PC device, it comes with Visual Studio.
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Allright thanks a lot!

So,,...why does it say it's not a valid application?

telegraph0000 said:
So,,...why does it say it's not a valid application?
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hmm, i don't know... i've compiled it for ARM9 and QVGA. i've only tried it on windows mobile 6 installed to main memory.

Well, As I said, I have it running on my artemis with 6.1 and it is freakishly addictive.

cthulu said:
hmm, i don't know... i've compiled it for ARM9 and QVGA. i've only tried it on windows mobile 6 installed to main memory.
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Doesn't work on the AT&T Fuze. Says "Game.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application."
Too bad... I love Crayon Physics and would play this all the time if I could get it on my Fuze!

Oh...this is wrong!!! SO WRONG!!!! I loaded it on a wm 5.0 Pharos Gps 525, and it works just fine!!

It works on my Uni without overclocking but it eventually gets too slow as we draw and after a while I cannot get circles any more. Very nice but is it really based in real physics? Who cares? It is fun! Cheers.

telegraph0000 said:
Oh...this is wrong!!! SO WRONG!!!! I loaded it on a wm 5.0 Pharos Gps 525, and it works just fine!!
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Maybe someone out there can recompile it for the TouchPro/Diamond?

ITNV said:
Doesn't work on the AT&T Fuze. Says "Game.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application."
Too bad... I love Crayon Physics and would play this all the time if I could get it on my Fuze!
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I think the problem is that Fuze does have Qualcomm processor and the game is compiled for ARM. I am not sure if I can compile it for that CPU, I will check on Monday.

I have installed and tested on a HTC Himalaya running WM6.1 and it works perfectly, and also appears in the "Remove Programs" directory.
Good work! I see there is also a port on the actual Numpty Physics website as well.

Working on my htc blue angel like a charm.

I get the: " 'Game' is not a valid Pocket PC application." error as well. Too bad, but thanks anyway cthulu. I have a Kaiser (TyTN II) btw.
Dave

haha. great stuff
thanks

Works fine on the Kaiser.
Love it, thanks.

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difference between smartphone and PPC software tat i don understand..

Can a PPC software use in a Window mobile based smartphones?
are they functioning like in the PPC?
Can the *.cab file used for PPC use in smartphones?
I was just about to answer you, but then I go to the last line of your message.
We do not deal with WAREZ and craks here.
and
sthg about software tat i don understand..
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is something that I don't understand
ok, prehaps i shouldn't ask it tat way... actually the main thg is i just wanna know if there is any possiblity tat we can use PPC softwares on Window mobile based smartphone?
That would depend on the software and the device.
Some will run, some you won't be able to use without touch screen and some will need extra components.
you can try...it's all winCE...
I know some of my old smartphone software works o.k. on my PPC, but PPC is like smartphone's bigger brother: with extras (touchscreen, others, etc.)
The screen is broke on my smartphone now but I seem to remember installing some stuff meant for PPC on there back in the day with varying results. I think some did work, but not a lot worked nicely.
AFAIK you need to port, change a few things (like have no touchscreen input) for a reliable result.
it being winCE is not always enough
binary files are spc for the cpu they were compiled for
but if they have the same cpu and the same libs
it would work
another matter is .net and java they are not written for a spc cpu but for the framework
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-run-pocket-pc-applications-on.html
Rudegar said:
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-run-pocket-pc-applications-on.html
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Excellent article. Note that, however, it states all PPC apps run on a Smartphone w/ SPHelper ("Does this mean that they will run the same software? / Yes and no. All Windows Mobile devices (Smartphone, PPC, PPC phone edition, etc) can run the same actual executable code (.exe files) as long as it has been written for a Windows Mobile device. However if you actually try to install PPC software on a Smartphone (or vice versa) using Activesync, you might get an error message stating the device is incorrect and it will refuse to do anything."). This is, however, not really the case. See my related articles and hacking reports - in the articles I've posted in the last 2 weeks, I've posted a LOT of info on interoperability issues.
As a rule of thumb, about 10% of native (NON-Compact Framework-based) PPC programs can be hacked to work on a QVGA Smartphone. On a 176*220 one, even fewer.
bjy8138 said:
Can a PPC software use in a Window mobile based smartphones?
are they functioning like in the PPC?
Can the *.cab file used for PPC use in smartphones?
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Make sure you don't miss ANY of my articles. They are ALL in this very "General" forum.
I've published a LOT of information on these subjects, listing all the compatible software and how they can be hacked.
there should be a special forum for them since there are soo many they cant be sticky
some might get pushed far back
Rudegar said:
there should be a special forum for them since there are soo many they cant be sticky
some might get pushed far back
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Yup, that's a problem.
I'll some time collect the links and put them all in the Wiki so that they are easy to find.
off topic
I'll some time collect the links and put them all in the Wiki so that they are easy to find.
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something like that'd be good, I think we all appreciate informative articles and in-depth tests ...thanks!

Who wants to test WM 6.1 Professional?

Does anyone want to test wm6.1 professional for VOX?
If you are, you will have to write me a message
Thanks
professional on Vox?
I know hacks exist but is working for real ?
A little bit more info and serious please!
There was a test which didnt start
kozhura said:
Here is test version
1.WM 6.1 Professional
CE OS 5.2.19209 (Build 19209 .1.0.2)
2.Deleted melodies
3.Only english mui, other was missed
This is a TEST VERSION!
But you cant brik your device because its only OS and other was deleted (IPL,Splash,SPL,Radio)
You must do the Super CID and uspl unlock before flashing ROM
DOWNLOAD
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This rom is not compatible on Vox - device: BRE100 CID: QTEC Z12 version 1.43.706... this is not Vox, i'm tested
ok, ill put next rom
kozhura said:
ok, ill put next rom
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This sounds great, would love to see some screen shots in the first post to see what it looks like.
Roland
Yea, I'd like to see here more info and some screenshots.. I don't believe that this is possible, because of complete different hardware.. Being a little sceptic.
I'm not admired that there's a possibility of using WM pro in the VOX...you have something similar on the Startrek (QTEK 8500): link
I will surely like to test it .
But I need to know if this will really work? If you have the ROM and test on your VOX/710, please post some images and scribe a little description about, so that we can analyze before we proceed to test
Sounds very interesting!
They have got WM6.1 Professional ported to the Wings from the Kizer in the Wings forum, maybe that's the place to ask for advice in porting WM6.1 Professional to the Vox http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389089
Roland
Pro..
Keep cool, i am not finished with this...and there are no helpfull posts within...
But how do you think to use it without touchscreen?
It will be far from user friendly...
Oh my...believe me, it is useable.
First;
A POCKET PC IS NOT ONLY HIS TOUCHSCREEN!!!
AND A SMARTPHONE IS NOT ONLY A POCKETCAMERA....or anything else than a SmartPhone.
The PRO OS works well on SP, the OS is nearly useable like Standart, (no big differences, you can navigate with dpad+softkeys on ppc, too...)
It is like a PPC with the lack of a Touchscreen, you can carry most of the PPC apps you love,but not be able to install on your Standart-SP...
Most SP-Apps wont install,because there are differences in some Cab-Configs, but most of them works well......and the VOX/WINGS got a qwerty/z Keypad...ideal to use as SIP..
Ive a StarTrak and a Tornado, both are running PRO, i like it, sure, its not useable like a PPC with Touchscreen, but nice to have.
AND DONT FORGET;Smartphones are mostly similar with the PPCHardware (exept the Touchscreen, stop buggin me)
I really hope you get it working sounds great.
especially since I miss one major feature in wm6(.1) standard: WIFI proxy.
it's not possible (as far as I know) to use an http proxy on your wifi connection.. which is a pitty.
if you get it working, I'll most likely install it
arpy said:
Oh my...believe me, it is useable.
First;
A POCKET PC IS NOT ONLY HIS TOUCHSCREEN!!!
AND A SMARTPHONE IS NOT ONLY A POCKETCAMERA....or anything else than a SmartPhone.
The PRO OS works well on SP, the OS is nearly useable like Standart, (no big differences, you can navigate with dpad+softkeys on ppc, too...)
It is like a PPC with the lack of a Touchscreen, you can carry most of the PPC apps you love,but not be able to install on your Standart-SP...
Most SP-Apps wont install,because there are differences in some Cab-Configs, but most of them works well......and the VOX/WINGS got a qwerty/z Keypad...ideal to use as SIP..
Ive a StarTrak and a Tornado, both are running PRO, i like it, sure, its not useable like a PPC with Touchscreen, but nice to have.
AND DONT FORGET;Smartphones are mostly similar with the PPCHardware (exept the Touchscreen, stop buggin me)
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There is also Fake Curser that will do the job of the stylus/ finger on a touch screen to close apps and to change to different tabs in apps.
This sounds very prommising if it can be pulled off.
Rioland
You should be able to boot a Professional from the HTC Wizard since they have the very same hardware, but I don't know if the lcd driver would work.
Anyway, you should know, the Omap 850 cpu has native support for touchscreen, if you can find where the pins connect, you could possibly adapt it (assuming you can find a 2.4" 4 wire touch panel).
Another option would be using the mini-usb jack. The cpu has both client and host side usb support. If it's mapped to the connector, and you can make windows put the usb in host mode you can connect a mouse, touchscreen or whatever you want and use it from there (if you get external power to the device you are connecting)
My vox is still under repair (3rd week already) so cannot test anything yet sorry
i would love to try it...
How long will it be until we see the first test version of this ROM?
Roland

In got my VOX today and I have some questions about it..

Well, I bought my vox today.
And it is really cool.
There are a couple of Questions I couldnt fix with the Help File.
For example, at the Home Screen on the Bottum you see: Start and Contacts.
Is there a way to change Contacts to Message or Send Text Message or something like that?
Also, I installed:
http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=56
The install was alright but it doesnt work.
I don't see the Memory Bars on my screen? Do I have to enable that somewhere?
Also I've got a couple of questions about Specific software that I seem not to be able to find.
I think I should post this in a Separate Topic but I dont want to spam the Entire forums full, so i'll ask here
Has anyone made Scapy work on there Smartphone? Using PythonCE?
Also has anyone tried Super Puzzle Turbo Fighter ][ Java on there VOX System?
Since its not meant for it. But I think It should work. Though if it doesn't and I bought it. Well thats just a waste of money..
Is there anyone who used MiniStumbler on a SmartPhone? Since I can only find it for Windows Pocket PC?
And my last Software Question is:
MARS - [Memory Array Redcode Simulator, a machine that simulates a Corewar battle]
is a Programming game?
Is there a port for it in SmartPhone? Since else I should make it myself ^^
Well, I asked a LOT of questions. I hope nobody thinks I am a Leecher
Thanks already!
Cheers,
Robin
I'll answer the questions I know answers to and tell you that if you search you will find an answer, so here goes;
1). Yes. Search XDA for "Soft key changer"
2). That application is for PocketPC, it will not work properly on your Vox which is Smartphone/Standard.
3). Scapy does not work, as far as I am concerned PythonCE for Smartphones is a kludge.
4). There is a Java VM called Esmertec jBed. It should be able to run Super Puzzle Turbo Fighter just fine provided the resolution is within the Vox limits.
5). MiniStumbler does not work on the Vox, however WiFiFoFum does, it is completely free and has the same features.
6). MARS, there is no Windows Mobile or even CE port/release of this.
1). Yes. Search XDA for "Soft key changer"
Thank you!, I didnt know what to look for but now I do ^^
2). That application is for PocketPC, it will not work properly on your Vox which is Smartphone/Standard.
Ah, ok thats why I didnt work. But ofc tht is quite logical. I thought that didnt make a Difference if it was the Home Today Screen..
3). Scapy does not work, as far as I am concerned PythonCE for Smartphones is a kludge.
Ok, well thanks.
I am going to write something like this myself then. If it's done I'll post it here.
4). There is a Java VM called Esmertec jBed. It should be able to run Super Puzzle Turbo Fighter just fine provided the resolution is within the Vox limits.
Ok, thats GREAT! I am going to get myself a Copy right away!
5). MiniStumbler does not work on the Vox, however WiFiFoFum does, it is completely free and has the same features.
That other program is fine aswell. Just wanted to find WifiNetworks. ^^
6). MARS, there is no Windows Mobile or even CE port/release of this.
I found a fix. PocketDOS!! ^^ I just run it on Dos.
Thanks for all this, your a great help =)
Cheers,
Robin
You can also use Smarttweak v.1.07. It can modify alot in your vox and removes the message sent notification after sending an sms. There is a crack version here in one of the topics here. just look for it. ciao!
i can help you in chinese ,but i do not think you know chinese...
so i can do nothing.sorry about this
defyeo said:
You can also use Smarttweak v.1.07. It can modify alot in your vox and removes the message sent notification after sending an sms.
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How to disable that?
I want to see that sent notification.

[no java emulation chatter plz] Symbian emulator, anyone ?

hello.
is there any emulator or such to run symbian games on windows smartphone (Vox/S710) ?
thanks in advance
that would be cool, but the vox runs java games perfectly
You're right 128MB... I had a Nokia N73 (Symbian S60, 3rd Edition) device before the HTC S710 and infact my Vox runs java games better than they ever ran on my N73 thanks to JBED 3D Mod.
Every S60 3rd Edition j2me game I throw at it runs amazingly well and fast
It would be cool if it could run .sis/.sisx games though, but I doubt it'll ever happen on a wm device.
I had about 15 games installed in my vox and i it slowed down a lot :s i removed them and the phone runs fast again.
Why does it do that? cant i install the games on my sd card? i can only select the root folder.
Yes, get JBED 3D Mod, it can be installed to storage card and all java games/apps will be installed to card aswell
damn maybe i should re-name the thread 'how many ppl can run java games on vox?'
please do not hi-jack this thread
Dude, cool it. There is no Symbian emulator. Happy?
h4waii said:
Dude, cool it. There is no Symbian emulator. Happy?
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well, i don't know about how its done here but at all other forums hi-jacking is taken pretty seriously
It was just a little bit off topic. And there are usually no moderators around here anyway. I only know of a Palm emulator, but no Symbian.
frauhottelmann said:
And there are usually no moderators around here anyway.
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my bad.
maybe i over-reacted guys. will keep low.

Java and games

Hi,
i'm quite liking my vox, and im searching for some games.
I'v downloaded a ton of java games but i only found a few games that work like R-Type and some rally games
Can i update the java player?
And is this phone not capable of playing PPC games? Like Doom and Age Of empires?
You can play Doom pretty good. I played it in landscape with the full keyboard.
frauhottelmann said:
You can play Doom pretty good. I played it in landscape with the full keyboard.
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Do you have links to download games (java or not) compatible with Vox ?
Thanks.
I am sorry I don't remember where I got it from. And I don't know if it would comply with the forum rules if I would post a link to it.
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Looks like I found it. It's freeware so: http://www.smartphone-freeware.mobi/download/rcx-doom
For more free games go to MoDaCo's download section. spvDuke3D and spvMan are quite good.
Here are 44 free games!
EDIT:
A very good Game Boy emulator (Java) is MeBoy. All you need is ROMs, but I can't post links to that!
You know, Pokemon makes school life so much better! And good memories come back ^^
thanks for the links! Doom works fine!
Duke3D doesnt work.
"Unknown Multivoc error code"
Have you tried pocketGBA? didnt work for me.
And i found worms for landscape mode but java doesnt let me do that
Hm I have a Windows Mobile Worms Edition, but I have never tried it in landscape!
Hey I just found another great free game.
Go to http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/totalaccess/default.mspx
you have to register, but then you can get Real Dice Poker for free. It's an online and offline game!
Thanks for your links frauhottelmann
I can login with my Hotmail acc. didnt need to register
If you already have some Microsoft registration, you can use it!
its a 3 day trial until u register
You can register, it's free.
i tried on my fox but coudnt enter my email :s _ doesnt work.
Almost every W810 game I had worked in jBed flawlessly. I had about 200 on my device, I have them backed up to my microSD but not installed. I don't tend to play games myself but most of my friends play the NES emulator when they get their grubby paws on my Vox.
I'll upload the java collection I have.
Sounds good! Thanks
ok signing up worked
and i cant install pocketsnes or gnuBoy becous it doesnt have a digital signature (i think in english)
You have to app-unlock your phone!
sda unlock doesnt help
What do i need to reboot at the end? reboot sda now it says.
i need to reboot the program or my phone? i tried both but nothing worked.
Try this: http://www.mediafire.com/?k1egbyo05gs
Connect to your PC via ActiveSync. Open it after you installed it (on PC) and select "No Security" and click promote. Wait a bit. Restart S710, then it should work!

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