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Upgrade from VOX- Move to PPC or Smartphone ?

I am using my VOX for almost one and half years and I am feeling like upgrading to a more recent product. Since many of you are having a wide experience of using PPC I would request you to suggest my next upgrade as to whether to go for a PPC or remain in smartphone. My thinkings/doubts apprehensions are as follows:
1) I am being allured by Touch varieties of WINMO, the reason being, bigger screens, smart looks and above all the wide availability of softwares both in numbers as well as variety. In fact I love to install various apps to my phones and enjoy fiddling with them.
2)UI or Touch Operation : Though I have recently purchased a Nokia 5800 and I have quite well adapted myself fully on Symbian touch screens. I would like to know what are the advices/experiences of actual users in WINMO. By the way the TouchFlow3D/2D attracts me very much and I like the kinetic scrolling and gesture control of WINMO devices.
3)Although it is pretty sure that I will go for HTC (of course due to this huge and unique support of XDA-DEVELOPERS) is there any other practically viable alternative?
4)The battery lives of WINMOs are generally poorer than symbian etc. What about battery lives of PPC in comparison to Smartphone (WinMOs)?
Thanks

Hey
I can't answer all your questions, but here are my 2 cents:
For battery life the s710 is awesome. Online reviews of other phones will tell you what to expect from a new phone, you'll have to do the research.
Personally, I wanted my phone to be a PHONE with internet,etc on the side.....rather than a mini-internet browser with some phone functionality on the side (if you see what I mean), which is why I went for an s710.
The next best option I see is this, and I was considering this for myself at one point: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=161302
Basically I think you'll have to decide what you want out of the phone. Do you want to be fiddling with a stylus to send texts? Ive been told touchscreens won't work out if its drizzling outside and specks of water are splashing on the screen. Touchscreen is cool, it's just not as precise as a keypad.
There are loads of advantages to PPC's (many of which you know). You'll just have to figure out what suits you personally.
(also there's no alternative to doing the leg work.....if you want to find the best deal out there, you'll have to do the research).
Oh and also, if you find something cool let me know.....

What about the HTC Hero?
http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/26104/1/

romskii said:
What about the HTC Hero?
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Hero is a Android phone which I am interested in. I will only restrict my choice within WinMO.

I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX

I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX

FeareX said:
I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX
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It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,

parthabhatta said:
It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,
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It sure is!
The diamond 2 has almost the same features, only no keyboard. And since the Vox i don't think i can live without
But it's all up to you

Which Phone should i get?

Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.

HTC in my experience is awefull build quality. After owning four diferent models I have vowed never to own one again. Shame really, apart from the poor camera selection they are designed really well ..... just a shame they fall to bits.
Out of your list, would have to be TG01.
Have you looked at the new Omnia II's? (not the Omnia HD) Theres a full on Iphone/HD lookie-likely and two keyboard models, one a TP2 type and one a blackberry type.
Don't forget the Acer M900 (which is what I currently use) and the more pocket friendly F900.

Touch Pro 2 definetly
Because keyboard is a must for me!
Merge threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4181275#post4181275

wizern23 said:
Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.
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I had windows mobile and even though preference is a matter of perspective.... windows might be a step in the wrong direction. Back when I had it windows was ahead of its time... but now it seems like its standing still ... like its been stagnant for the last 3 yrs I haven't seen any major differences...from android to winmo is going Back to resistive touch screens... with not so finger friendly gestures because the screens tend to not pick up on the motion... I would really love to see MS step it up and release a new os or 7.0 which I hope makes a major difference. Dont get me wrong for business i would only use winmo or BB... but at this point Android just seems like a wiser choice... its not an ancient OS that will probably bore you quickly. All the phones sound great ... if you want break down and comparisons then go to infosyncworld.com ... they rate the phones for you.

As somebody who's an advocate of Windows Mobile, my honest opinion is that now isn't a good time to buy a WinMo phone at all, especially not for the first time. The only people I would recommend the current batch of WM phones to are people who already use WM, don't want to learn a different system, and REALLY need a new device.
Here's why: Windows Mobile 6 has a real learning curve, and coming from Android you're probably going to find yourself frustrated at a lot of the inconsistencies and complications. Further, WM7 is already on the horizon and I think we'll be getting our first real peeks at it before the year is out. It should be a massive, fundamental overhaul to the way WM works. There's a lot of unanswered questions right now, ESPECIALLY whether WM7 apps will work on WM6 devices and whether it will be possible to upgrade any current WM6 or 6.5 devices to 7. If not, it's possible that application support for WM6 devices might grind to a halt within a year.
If I were in your boots, I'd try to hold on to that G1 as long as you can. By October or November, I think we'll have a better view of the future of WM and it'll be easier to see whether WM will serve your needs going forward.
Now, all this is completely moot if you're rolling in enough dough to just buy a new phone whenever you feel like it. If so, feel free to buy whatever you like.

Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. I really dont care about having to learn how to use windows mobile. Im more interested in the devices themself. My main concern is switching to a device with out a keyboard.

wizern23 said:
Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. \\
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Well, that's the problem: we just don't know yet. A lot of people here seem to take it for granted that WM7 will be as "open" as WM6 in terms of porting and the like, but comments from MS make me a lot less confident -- it sounds like WM7 might have much more specific hardware requirements that will keep it from being run on older models. It's POSSIBLE WM7 will be able to be put on, say, a Touch Pro 2, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
All signs point to WM7 being a major upgrade (keep in mind that WM7 has been in development since 6.1 dropped if not longer), and I think it's going to be really disappointing to be stuck with 6.5 once 7 hits.
But if you're looking to roll the dice, the Touch Pro 2 looks like a great phone UNLESS you want to use it as a media player. Lack of a 3.5mm jack is a serious weakness there.

yea the 3.5mm jack is a necessity b/c i planned on getting the Motorola S9s or something along that line to use because all of those except the hero are huge or heavy

I personally don’t believe that WM7 will be ready early 2010. It might take until 2011 that we see any WM7device.
TP2 seams currently best HTC choice if you need keyboard. However frankly speaking after having 2 HTC devices (Hermes and Kaiser) with slide keyboards I am not very confident about the durability (quality) of HTC hardware. Both of the devices had after short time issues with the rails and tilt mechanism.
Just recently I went to a shop to have look on the TP2 and the keyboard rails and the tilt seams same crap as previous devices. You can also read many complain in the TP2 section about screen wobbling. Touch HD has a very nice large screen (love large screens) but it is 1 year old technology and performance wise it did not satisfied many people. Furthermore as you are from USA you would need Australian version to able to use in American 3G. But the Device cost still after 1 year some 800-900$
My personal favoured are currently the Samsung Omnia II/i800 and Samsung Omnia II pro (b7610) Specs on the paper and the current reviews are indicating that those are under best devices on the market. Furthermore Samsung has almost entirely covered with additional software the aged WinMo operation platform. Further positive point is the Price. Both Samsung devices are about 100-200 USD cheaper then HTC devices even though they have better CPU; Camera etc.

I agree with Bulldog -- the Omnia II devices look really excellent. I like the design of the TP2 better, but I trust Samsung's build quality more and, feature-wise, it's fantastic.

Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
That for me is an added value to consider before buying

orb3000 said:
Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
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Yes you do. This site offers Winmob o/s and Winmob App support to all. If you want cooked roms, look no further than omnia.modaco.com where there are plenty! My Omnia (original one) is currently running a great cooked rom of WM 6.5
Lets also not forget the AMOLED screen either on the new Omnias. I really regret buying my Acer M900, not because its crap - its not - but the new Samsungs look simply stunning. And if you factor in the success of the Omnia, widely regarded as the best Winmob all-rounder, the new Omnias should be spanking!

Getting new phone. Need help choosing.

So I've been a smartphone person for a while and the last good phone I had was the Nokia N91 which broke. I've been using a crappy Samsung slider to make/take calls and send/receive messages.
I'm getting a new phone and have narrowed down my choices to 2.
HTC HD2 (Leo) or the HTC Hero.
Now, I love the HTC Hero but the only thing keeping me is what I've heard about it being very laggy (and ive seen some videos, opening the mail takes at least 5-10 seconds). I have used the Android OS several times at the store and really love it (recently tried the HTC Droid Eric by Verizon).
I have also used Windows Mobile and find it okay, but seem to like Android better. Also, HTC Hero will NOT get 3G in the US...
I'm looking at the HD2 because it packs a lot of horsepower... 1Ghz is pretty dang nice, and from the videos I've seen lag does not exist AT ALL.
So now I have this dilemma... should I buy the HD2 or Hero. I guess it comes down to whether or not WinMo is better than Android (FOR ME. Please don't start a android vs winmo flame war).
What do you guys think?
P.S. I need to buy an unlocked GSM. No other options. Will probably get it from Middle East/Europe. Availability in a certain region is not an issue for me.

Welcome to HTC XDA! We highly recommend HTC HD2 top of the line PPC!! See the LEO section for the specs, answers & info...

I am personally waiting for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 which runs android, a very high resolution, and the snapdragon processor, in my opinion it is superior to the hd2 and the hero

Thanks galaxys for the warm welcome.
I'm not sure what you mean by PPC, but why exactly is it that you recommend it? The superior hardware?
and thanks jad for the response... I have considered the X10 and think its pretty cool but I'm not willing to wait and need a new phone NOW

PPC means Pocket PC. Anything that runs Windows Mobile is a pocket PC. It's not a term you see much nowadays.
The HD2 is probably the best PPC/WM device out there at the moment. As far as I'm aware (others please correct me if I'm wrong) the Eris is the Hero in another casing spcifically for Verizon. If only the Leo ran Android....

Ah okay thanks TheBrit
Yes you are correct about the Eris. Just different case.
Also, I've really fallen in love with android... so I guess I'll go for the Hero.

There's also the Samsung Moment that runs Android and has a physical keyboard.

TheBrit said:
... If only the Leo ran Android....
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Thanks guys, I decided to buy the Hero. It will be shipping soon

Good decision!!
Go to Leo section to start learning

orb3000 said:
Good decision!!
Go to Leo section to start learning
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He said Hero not Leo

If I could design my own phone...

Maybe this phone exists somewhere but if so, I haven't found it - and not for lack of searching. It all started with a 2007 Shadow. I loved the slim size and slide-out form factor, could live with WinMo if I had to but hated the 2.0 mp camera and non-touch screen.
I've tried the Incite, the Kaiser and currently use a G1 for day to day but none of them made me as happy as my Shadow. Part of it's because if I need to make a call I don't like the touch screen dialer. Another factor is the Blackberry-like keyboard arrangement on the Shadow - I really liked it. (I could never master texting using the usual numeric keys.) It's too cumbersome to pop out the G1 or Tilt keyboard, especially dealing with stupid automated phone systems.
I like HTC phones a lot because of the community but am beginning to wonder if somewhere out there is a phone better suited for me. I'd like to stay in the Android fold but does anyone have any suggestions? Has to be GSM and unlockable because I use a weird local carrier, too, although I might consider going back to Sprint (gag) for the perfect phone.
Terry

The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.

chambo622 said:
The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.
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I played with a Pre at a local kiosk and was impressed by how nice it was but not enough better than the G1 to go back to Sprint. Now if the GSM version becomes more affordable and available, maybe...
Thanks,
Terry - now if I could just do a camera transplant on a touch dual

It would be something like this:
VGA 4" screen
From factor like HTC Universal
2ghz processor
1gb RAM
Hardware keyboard
Slim nice design
Made by HTC
A mix of Universal, Rhodium and Leo
I guess I have to wait till 2011 or 2012...

I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.

jez83uk said:
I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.
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It is so very close, but I'm spoiled by the ability to do bar code scanning with the G1. AFAIK, the 2.0 cameras can't do that - which is why I made the comment about the camera transplant. I guess I could look into the port a little closer to see if they made it work or not.
Terry

Phone & PDA in one

Hi all, newbie here looking for advice and opinions.
I currently have a phone and a separate PDA, a Palm m515. The PDA is reaching the end of its (useful) life now, so I am considering a combined phone and PDA, I use the PDA for taking short notes such as shopping lists, price lists and things to do.
I have sought advice from Vodafone shop and Carphone Warehouse but the staff seemed pretty clueless as to what would meet my needs,
I have been thinking about one of the HTC phones, but obviously am open to suggestions. Also ideally I would like to back up (sync) the notes to my pc.

Welcome to forums
What about this?

Nice but bulky, although very impressive
I would prefer something smaller which is why I was considering something from HTC or similar. Often carry a laptop anyway so UMPC functions aren't needed, just something for quick note taking.

HTC
Then Shift, Athena, Universal or Rhodium...

I would of course recommend the Rhodium, but if you really only need the device to jot down notes with a stylus, probably should get something without a hardware keyboard.

hexpert said:
Hi all, newbie here looking for advice and opinions.
I currently have a phone and a separate PDA, a Palm m515. The PDA is reaching the end of its (useful) life now, so I am considering a combined phone and PDA, I use the PDA for taking short notes such as shopping lists, price lists and things to do.
I have sought advice from Vodafone shop and Carphone Warehouse but the staff seemed pretty clueless as to what would meet my needs,
I have been thinking about one of the HTC phones, but obviously am open to suggestions. Also ideally I would like to back up (sync) the notes to my pc.
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Welcome to the forums
Just about any Windows Mobile device currently on the market fits your needs. What you need to consider (and tell us your opinions on if you want us to give you recommendations) are things like your price range, whether or not you want a physical keyboard and what else you would want to do with it (ie. WiFi, 3G etc.).
You might also want to think about Android, which many people now prefer to WM (although synchronising notes to Outlook wouldn't be easy, if at all possible).

orb3000 said:
Then Shift, Athena, Universal or Rhodium...
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Thanks for the replys.
ORB3000, below are the phones offered by providers here.
HTC Touch P3452
HTC Touch Pro2
HTC Legend
HTC Desire
HTC HD2
are the only HTC phones stocked here and available to me on contract.
Will probably use GPS on occasion, want WI-FI if possible, not worried about hardware keyboard.
Going to look at them again today so will update later on tonight.

How important is having a stylus to you? If it is not important get the HD2.

MooGoo said:
How important is having a stylus to you? If it is not important get the HD2.
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Stylus isn't vital, but I do find it easier to type with, although in my case I always use the M515 on-screen keyboard as the Grafitti function is a pain to use.

hexpert said:
Stylus isn't vital, but I do find it easier to type with, although in my case I always use the M515 on-screen keyboard as the Grafitti function is a pain to use.
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Well, from what I hear at least, typing on the HD2 is quite easy because of its big screen. But since it is capacitive stylus's don't work with it.
If those phones you listed are your only choices, then this should be easy.
Forget the HTC Touch P3452, it is too old to be seriously considered at this point.
If a stylus is important to you, and especially if you think a hardware keyboard might come in handy, get the Touch Pro 2.
If you don't care about those features, then the only choice you need to make is whether you want an Android phone, or a WinMo one.
If Android, get the Desire.
If WinMo get the HD2.

Darn !! Had my decision made, now I find out android 2.2 is coming out soon. Anyone know if I can buy the phone now and then upgrade (for free) later on?