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How fast is your Orbit?

Hey folks,
I've had the O2 Orbit for just over a week now and have been trying various things with it. However, I noticed it took me 1 min and 2 seconds to access the windows directory!
Is this normal? Please post how long it takes you to access the folder...
Thanks!
SG
My Orbit Specs:
WM OS 5.1.342 (Build 15096.3.0.0)
ROM version 1.25.206.2 WWE

25 secs. Only had spb shell running as well.

Wow! That's quick, wonder why mine's so slow? Please all, post your times!
my specs are exactly the same as yours! what build and version of WM5 have you got?

WM5 is extremely slow at accessing the Windows directory using File Explorer. I find its quicker when using something like Total Commander, but even then its not as quick as WM6. Nothing to do with the processor speed, bug (if you like to clall it that) in WM5.

Yeah, I used File Explorer. Hmmm... you make an interesting point.
HPJ - what version of Windows Mobile are you using?

I'm on WM5. It's about as vanilla as they come. Like I said, I am only uing SPB shell....nothing else...the rest is out of the box! (And I might even ditch shell as it seems to run my battery down quicker.)
Oh, I have the storage card fix...that's it.

Yeah, I have the Currupt SD Card fix too...
All I have done is installed TomTom Navigator 6 , iGo-my-way and a couple of games.
This still doesn't explain why there's a vast difference in time to access the windows folder. Would be good to see what others are getting.
One thing I noticed is that my phone is unlocked. I put my Orange sim card in and it works!
Also, I've got an icon put on by O2 that actually lets me close programs down from the Today screen..
SG
markquinton, could you give us your time too?

yeah Ive got the icon from o2 with a load of things on it....
have you timed the opening again?? sure it wasnt just a one off? seems a bit odd, mine always opens before 30 secs

I've tried accessing the folder 4 times, it takes over a minute each time...
SG

o2 Germany released an official Windows Mobile 6 ROM, maybe that will satisfy you.
Just my two cents.

If you look at my common file dialogs you should get a time of 15-18 seconds for a windows directory on a wm2005 device to display. After that its ~7 seconds for a sorting in order of name, size or type if you click on the header. Thats showing all files (ie not hiding dll's etc as many file explores do).
Get it here from my old site http://odeean.veritel.com.au/programming_files/commonDialog.htm

SG - I wouldnt mess with the German WM6 (unless you really know what your doing).
If you've tried all else, and you're still within your 14 days, get o2 to pick it up and send another. And chuck something free in there for messing you about.
It just shouldnt take over 1 min, and you might find other problems if the phone has some core problem....could just be a lemon

Thanks for the adive HPJ.
This is something I did think of. But everything else seems to work ok.
There are a few reason that makes me want to hang on to it though:
I had spent 2 days getting my calender up to date.
I only use Outlook at work, but due to security we cant sync any devices to our computers. Do you know the best way to get my Calendar off the Orbit?
For all the other software I've put on, I've got a back up on my home computer so real problem putting these back on.
The other thing that makes me not want to give it back is that the phone is unlocked. I'm using an Orange sim card in there and have still got my O2 sim in my old phone. Are all the Orbits unlocked or did I just get lucky?
SG

You've got some cool files on your website Odeean...

someguysomewhere said:
Thanks for the adive HPJ.
Are all the Orbits unlocked or did I just get lucky?
SG
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all contract phones from o2 UK are unlocked

Aha! That's good to hear, thanks Amino...

someguysomewhere said:
I had spent 2 days getting my calender up to date.
I only use Outlook at work, but due to security we cant sync any devices to our computers. Do you know the best way to get my Calendar off the Orbit?
For all the other software I've put on, I've got a back up on my home computer so real problem putting these back on.
The other thing that makes me not want to give it back is that the phone is unlocked. I'm using an Orange sim card in there and have still got my O2 sim in my old phone. Are all the Orbits unlocked or did I just get lucky?
SG
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use dotfred's pimbackup for calender (and contacts, and tasks, and sms...) backup.
and spb backup (the trial allows 5 x uses). save both to a storage card and execute on another orbit
(i agree, o2 don't lock their phones, and btw i don't own an orbit but all stock roms take forever to open windows)
i just tested the file explorer vs gsfinder, and the inbuilt file explorer was quicker

I have an Orbit. It takes mine roughly 6 turns of the colour wheel to get into the Windows directory with Resco Explorer. Its set to hide ROM files only; .dlls, .cpls, etc are shown as normal along with file extensions.
Its much faster after a hard reset. Its slows down as more files are placed in there. Sometimes (especially on the Universal) you can get a small reduction in the time by moving all the help files (htm and their relevant gifs/bmps/jpgs) to another folder (you could delete them, but then you would have to reinstall if you break something).
I think its the type of file that gets placed in there. If only software authors would stop loading the directory with squillions of little files, if only MS would set IE to use the SD card as the cache directory by default and if only various other things like ring tones, today plugins, etc could go somewhere else.
Decentralise, etc.

Thanks bbobeckyj for that program, I'll back my phone up tonight. So it's not just my phone that is slow
I understand where you're coming from ward, it's a shame that the device doesn't keep files in tidy places. This is the same for the Storage Card, there are folders created on there which have no files or stuff that never gets used!

Yeah. I keep finding folders called "FilesToBeDeleted". They're always empty.

Faraday (Cingular 2125) crashes running TCPMP

Hi,
I like my Faraday (Cingular 2125) vs. my old Audiovox 5600 (C500 I think is also known as) because of its screen brightness, newer OS, and also I can copy files over to it using wm5torage without having to remove the minisd card; however, it crashes on me a lot when running TCPMP to view avi files, these are the same files I use with the 5600 using the same version of TCPMP (version 0.72RC1). I'm kind of discouraged and was wondering if anyone else have the same problem. what happens is I can watch for say 10 minutes then the smartphone version of the windows hourglass (you know that round circle signaling it's busy) would come up and i can't watch anymore, the phone doesn't actually crash but I just can't use TCPMP anymore. I can turn the phone off but turning it back on requires a battery removal.
I've already tried using an older version of TCPMP (0.71) and that didn't solve it either.
i don't believe there's any rom update for this phone (but if there's one please point me to it).
anyway, please give me any advice that you may have. man, i like this phone but i just can't stand it much longer.
thanks in advance!

slamming_sammy1 said:
Hi,
I like my Faraday (Cingular 2125) vs. my old Audiovox 5600 (C500 I think is also known as) because of its screen brightness, newer OS, and also I can copy files over to it using wm5torage without having to remove the minisd card; however, it crashes on me a lot when running TCPMP to view avi files, these are the same files I use with the 5600 using the same version of TCPMP (version 0.72RC1). I'm kind of discouraged and was wondering if anyone else have the same problem. what happens is I can watch for say 10 minutes then the smartphone version of the windows hourglass (you know that round circle signaling it's busy) would come up and i can't watch anymore, the phone doesn't actually crash but I just can't use TCPMP anymore. I can turn the phone off but turning it back on requires a battery removal.
I've already tried using an older version of TCPMP (0.71) and that didn't solve it either.
i don't believe there's any rom update for this phone (but if there's one please point me to it).
anyway, please give me any advice that you may have. man, i like this phone but i just can't stand it much longer.
thanks in advance!
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I'm not sure if it'd help: did you try playing with the video settings?

yes I did
yes I played around with numerous video settings but no luck. thanks though! i think i may go back to my good old SmT5600

had the same problem on my tmobile sda but i never got to fix this problem because i lost it days later but found a SMT5600 a week later and i dont have this problem on it not even now that i have it upgraded to WM6

i switched back
yeah, i just switched back to my 5600. the one main reason i wanted to try a 2125 was because it could run the utility WM5TORAGE that treats its storage card like a USB mass storage device, hence copying files to it was fast. however, i just found out today that when using activeSync to copy files to my 5600, there's a setting in activesync to tell it not to convert to the mobile device format which helped speed up the copying quite a bit so I'm pretty content to be with my 5600 again.
I upgraded to WM6 once with my 5600 also, but the number of features felt quite overwhelming plus it seemed a little slower. does it feel like that to you?
can you point me to the wm6 rom that you used? i may try it out if it's different than the one i had used.
thanks.

for me it feels like it has a good speed not normal but good enough to do things and not get made for the slowness and for the rom i used the one in the link on my signature (Audiovox SMT 5600 (HTC Typhoon) with WM6 < check it out) it may be missing things and may have bugs but for now it is mostly stable
Ill wait for some one to make a better rom

setting device to load on startup

So I've installed the older version of the camera drivers in order to fix a camera issue I'm getting with the 7201 CPU. Right now, I need to manually go into the task manager -> Devices -> start CIF1.DLL every time my phone is restarted, otherwise the camera won't initialize.
Short of cooking the old camera version into the rom, is there a way I can get the camera to load automatically?

did you install this using a cab? what camera cab did you use? did you just flash a new rom? if so, might be your radio
Lupe

overhaulengines said:
did you install this using a cab? what camera cab did you use? did you just flash a new rom? if so, might be your radio
Lupe
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radio can't be issue because camera does work; he doesn't want to manually load the file for the camera every time he restarts his kaiser.
I never had this issue of having to start the camera manually. On xda live 3.0 the camera application is taken out but installation via cab makes it work without problem ...
search for "kyphur xda live 3.0"; that should bring up the thread for that rom. In the thread download the file that kyphur has on his 4shared account which includes things he removed from rom. In that zip file there are two different files for camera.
Try that and see what results you yield.

Can't you just put CIF1.DLL in to Windows/startup folder?

Thanks for the replies. I realized I should have been a bit clearer.
Ok, so I went back and looked at what I was loading and the file is called SJ CIF_314.CAB It's not the camera, but a device or driver that the camera uses. If I install this cab, but don't manually load it in the taskmanager, the camera won't initialize.
I'm loading this cab to address an issue my camera has when recording video (has to do with the 7201 CPU). You can read the details of this solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387057
Basically, because of my CPU, any of the roms cooked with the TYTNII PhotoQuality.cab fix seems to cause recording problems on my video camera. So to fix this, i need to install the SJ CIF_314.CAB.
So there is no issue with the camera after this device driver is loaded. But I need to load it manually each time my phone is reset.
When I go into task manager to find the device in the devices list, it is listed as $device\CIF1(CIF1 and it is unloaded. I just have to highlight and start it to get my camera working each time. In the registry it is linked to the file CIF.DLL
I'm basically asking if there is a way to get this device to load automatically like most of the other devices in the devices list. Like maybe changing or adding something in the registry?

so anyone know how to do this?

anyone have a resolution for this? I want to see this resolved as well heh

i have the same problem - anyone figured out how to fix this so the driver loads automatically on startup?

what i find strange is (i dont mean anything mean by this) it seems like Junior members are the only one with this issue. these days cooking a rom is simple with the kitchens out there i would just cook the drivers in and be done with it. also seems like that .cab might be messed up a little if its not over writting the "newer" driver no?
also all the wm6.1 roms have camera fix built in before the cooks touch it so its not like we are doing this on purpose sorry

yes it certainly looks suspicious that this happens only to junior members.
but, i had this problem after i loaded dutty's wm 6.1 rom, messed around for a day looking for the best radio rom (had issues like carrier signal dropping and coming back every 5 seconds, black screen camera and video camera).
i am not yet at the stage that i want to cook my own rom, so this issue is not a result of a junior member's rom, but rather playing with other roms which seem to be highly recognized in this community, and other strange behavior (ie locking up the device - found a fix for that today as well).
having said all that, do you know how to override boot settings so a driver is automatically started after every reset?

How to delete GarminXT folder

Hi,
probably a rather stupid question but still, bare with me..
i copied a garmin mobile xt (bought version) on my card and hoped it would work on my new polaris,... unfortunately it kept looking for an external gps unit via bluetooth, the problem is i can not delete it no metter what i do, if i try to do it in the phone it freezes, if i try it to do in my card reader it asys it cannot be removed,... (the garmin directory), if i try to delete the autorun from 2577 folder it says it cant but does delete it,.. however it reappeares wher reinserted in the reader..

mihaaa said:
Hi,
probably a rather stupid question but still, bare with me..
i copied a garmin mobile xt (bought version) on my card and hoped it would work on my new polaris,... unfortunately it kept looking for an external gps unit via bluetooth, the problem is i can not delete it no metter what i do, if i try to do it in the phone it freezes, if i try it to do in my card reader it asys it cannot be removed,... (the garmin directory), if i try to delete the autorun from 2577 folder it says it cant but does delete it,.. however it reappeares wher reinserted in the reader..
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I don't understand why you should delete it. Better get it working. I´m running Garmin both land and sea navigation on my Touch. Much better than TomTom. There are certain steps which needs to be taken in order for the Touch to identify your SDcard. If you have a bought version it shouldn´t be a problem to ask the Garmin people for help. It works perfectly with the internal GPS.
Good luck!

@andbertina: hehe actually i thought that 2, but when i called them (garmin reps) some time ago,.. first they accussed me of having a pirate version,.. so went home for the box and when i told the guy the number he said yes this was bought with a bluetooth gps and won't work with an internal,.. the new release works though but i should buy a new one as well (although mine has aroung half a year).. and that was about it,.. i'm using tomtom now, and will never buy garmin again..this one that i have was a present..
so when i wanted to delete the file (since it keeps asking if i want to install garmin at startup and even sometimes just like that in the middle of sth) it wouldn't as described in previous post
thnx for the reply

mihaaa said:
@andbertina: hehe actually i thought that 2, but when i called them (garmin reps) some time ago,.. first they accussed me of having a pirate version,.. so went home for the box and when i told the guy the number he said yes this was bought with a bluetooth gps and won't work with an internal,.. the new release works though but i should buy a new one as well (although mine has aroung half a year).. and that was about it,.. i'm using tomtom now, and will never buy garmin again..this one that i have was a present..
so when i wanted to delete the file (since it keeps asking if i want to install garmin at startup and even sometimes just like that in the middle of sth) it wouldn't as described in previous post
thnx for the reply
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It´s fine that you are happy with your TT but the HTC version has some bugs in voice program that I didn´t like.
I don´t think the Garmin rep. knew what he was talking about. Check GPS-passion forum below and the links for ideas. You are not alone in world with Garmin problem to be solved.
http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57782
Good luck.

I can imagine a Garmin representative like that can spoil the fun, but I can tell you imho Garmin Mobile XT is far superior over TomTom. The maps are better and prettier, the voices are better, the indications are better.

hi thanx fir the reply, .. i know how garmin is i had it on may nokia till now, but was not able to upload the maps (again original) and the software was not able to find gps uni since it kept scanning the bluetooth,.. so i decided to go with tomtom,.. if garmin would work than i would probably stick with it,.. unfortunately it was to big of a piece for me to swallow if i put it like this :d ... and for the final act i can not delete the install file as well so it keeps bugging me wanting to instal.. doooh

anyone else ,... pls

Have you checked if the SD card is locked ?

did ,.. wasn't..
anyways, my friend succeded,.. but to tell you the truth, since we were doing on other issues didn't remembered to ask him,.. yet

CF card not working

I'm very sad and I'm hoping someone can help me with ANY idea that might work. I just bought a LifeView FlyPresenter CF card for my pda because I heard awesome things about it. Unfortunately any and all attempts to install the card so far have been unsuccessful with any driver version I could find. Plugging the card in hangs the pda until I remove it and soft-resetting with the card in hangs the boot process...when I remove it the thing boots normally and then gives me an error box saying it can't recognize the card (which I pulled out) and is looking for me to tell it what driver to use. I tried typing the driver name in the box but that did nothing, probably because I can't get the error box and have the card plugged in simultaneously. The Card is supposedly written for PPC 2002 and 2003 and I figured that it'd be compatible with WM6 but maybe I was mistaken....the software seemed to install normally and the app shows up on the programs list though.
So....I'm hoping somebody can help me either A) get the thing working or B) tell me how to trick the device into acting like a ppc 2003 or something crazy like that so that I can use the card in some limited way. It has a lot of awesome software and full motion video out that I want to take advantage of. Thank you for your kind support.
IPAQ 210 Enterprise
WM6 Classic (non cooked)
81 MB free RAM
39 MB free space on the device

Anybody? I'm totally helpless at this point...

hi there, the drivers are imcompatible i have a Lifview cam, its a noshow on my 6.1 custom, you need 2003/se for it to work.
Sorry
Badwolve1

Aww ****..... Is there anyway to emulate the OS on a wm6 device? I don't care how complicated or weird it is....any means of running the hardware would be better than having to sell this thing after I just bought it.

gahhhrrrlic said:
Aww ****..... Is there anyway to emulate the OS on a wm6 device? I don't care how complicated or weird it is....any means of running the hardware would be better than having to sell this thing after I just bought it.
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Sorry, i don't thinks its possible.

Hey have you seen on their website that they have SDK software? I just saw it now. Apparently it allows you to write drivers for whatever platform you want by simply using their dll files and writing the drivers for them. Problem is the link is 404 and I can't find the sdk anywhere else. I know they have the same software for the flycam too. Maybe if we each are able to find our respective versions of the SDK we can both use our hardware again.
Any ideas where I could find the SDK? My methods of searching for things are limited to google but you might know where else such things are likely to be found...

Badwolve1 said:
hi there, the drivers are imcompatible i have a Lifview cam, its a noshow on my 6.1 custom, you need 2003/se for it to work.
Sorry
Badwolve1
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Try this Software: http://www.wincesoft.de/html/cecam.html It may work for you.