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Just interested in finding out how many people are using them just to show off, or if people are actually finding use for them?
These are my observations:
Cube- hard to master getting it to flip out with the finger, and sometimes gives a lot of false positives. And using it after pressing the softkey takes too long, I would rather use HButton or some other launcher.
Scrolling- again this is hard to master.. sometimes it would scroll up when i'm actually flicking downwards... works surprisingly well at times and i found myself flicking the screen on non-touch ROMs.
Today plugin- this is ofcourse useful. But it takes too much space, and i couldn't embed it within a tab in spb diary. Also, in landscape mode its too big and leaves very little room for other plugins.
i think the cube is a POS. i've never actually used it as its much easier to do the task without messing around with it. the today plugin gives pretty much all the functionality of the cube without having to flick up left and right. the only time i've used it is to show other people how much the iPhone sucks.
and i think scrolling is very helpful. makes one handed use even easier if used with smartskey. anything possible to not use the stylus is a huge time saver.
1. Cube - dont use it much - or maybe just to fidget around...
2. Scrolling - can't live without it now - takes a little while to master it, but have stopped using the scroll bars mostly now that i can flick and scroll.
3. Home Plugin - do use it quite a bit, mostly for shortcuts to programs, photo dialling, weather.
Is there a cab which just installs the scrolling on any wm6 rom? Installing the htc home plugin slows down the device if its not built into the rom..
Nah its a Pose... OK but thats the cube only.
The Today screen is ok, especially if you use ur fingernail.
Great to show off and then tell ppl that its running a 2 year old phone,
and then iMention that iMac's iPhone is a iCon and no big deal.(Ummm actually iPhone Sux but their Media side and Batt life is sweet.)
And to wait for iPhone 2.0.0.666.
Let the .666 flame war begin. ;D
sometimes i end up playing around with the cube cause i admire how cool it is, although it's a little slow. I mostly use the top 9. I got too many contacts to scroll and I don't go on web much.
Can't live with out the touch scrolling and today plugin, but you need little mastering, but it's not a big deal.
Cube is pretty useless to me. I built a ROM without it, but with the touch scrolling and Home plugin. Trying to rebuild another ROM without it also. I don't use it and would rather use the space for Voice Command.
Currently rocking nbd 8.3. Can't live without the scroll and home screen but the cube is a novelty that quickly wears off, IMHO.
Would love to see a ROM with touch scroll and HTC home but without cube and missed calls bug. Any chefs out there listening?
yoda6 said:
Currently rocking nbd 8.3. Can't live without the scroll and home screen but the cube is a novelty that quickly wears off, IMHO.
Would love to see a ROM with touch scroll and HTC home but without cube and missed calls bug. Any chefs out there listening?
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You can try NBD 7.9 and just reassign the left softkey and you will have it
icezar said:
You can try NBD 7.9 and just reassign the left softkey and you will have it
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Almost, unless I'm mistaken all NBD ROMs (and most WM6 ROMs in general) have the missed calls bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
No problem of missed calls in NBD 8.3
I personally couldn't do withouth the HTC Home and the finger scrolling.
As many here, the cube is really beautiful to see in motion, but quite useless...
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Almost, unless I'm mistaken all NBD ROMs (and most WM6 ROMs in general) have the missed calls bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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NBD 7.x does not have the 1,2 sec missed call bug.
Hi guys,
I agree with everyone... Htc home and touchflo rocks!!
The cube is a nice visual and for showing off, but not realy usefull.
Only if i havent set the IE launcher on the home plug i use the cube to launch it.
gr. bram
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NBD 7.x does not have the 1,2 sec missed call bug.
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Really? I'm talking about the problem where the GPRS is connected and an incoming call that is not answered before the calling party hangs up does not register as a missed call. NBD 8.3 certainly does this, although I'm thinking of trying the 2.19 UK radio to see if that helps.
I use cube time to time, bt is very nice thing. iphone contacts are the best and i use them daily.No button activation is not for me.
I got the touch installed on my second MDA which I use just for GPS. It's good for showing off. No useful functionality.
What's this scrolling business? Are you guys talking about the volume side thing? Or is there another way?
where is this touch scrolling from? I've flashed a few touch roms in the past monthish but none with the ability to scroll with my finger outside of contacts
Changed my mind from an earlier post.
Touch scrolling is awesome. Now that there is a version of the Home plugin works on TMobile its great to get the weather. Also, now that the Cube can come up via a finger swipe, it is actually useful (not required). Also, changing the links on the app side of the cube is needed because most of the default ones are already mapped to a hardware button.
Hello Touch Pro owners,
I'm sure this question has been asked, and I'm sorry if it has, but...
one of the things that drives me crazy with the Hermes is the glitchy landscape view. Sometimes while in landscape, it decides to switch back to portrait, and sometimes doesn't go into landscape at all. If you were a Hermes user, you know what i'm talking about. I was hoping 6.1 would fix that, but is hasn't.
Do any of you have issues with the Touch Pro?
I surely didn't, when the keyboard was open it went to landscape and stayed there, and when it slid closed it popped back to portrait and stayed there as well. Same for applications, turn the device sideways it flips, turn it back it flips back.. Not 1 issue.
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one of the things that drives me crazy with the Hermes is the glitchy landscape view. Sometimes while in landscape, it decides to switch back to portrait, and sometimes doesn't go into landscape at all. If you were a Hermes user, you know what i'm talking about.
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Actually, I don't; I'm still using my 8525, waiting for the "Fuze," and I don't recall ever seeing anything like that in the 19 months I've had it. I think you have a bum unit.
Have you applied new themes and customization tools (like Diamond Config)? Mine was perfect until I started applying a lot of the themes and tweaks. Now I'm having that issue. I plan on loading a cooked ROM once my travel is done. In the mean time, I have found it easier to use the virtual keyboard.
Don't think it's a bum unit, I've had a few and it's the same. I think it's most likely the shells I load. (spb and now the TF2d). I usually don't tweak and never OC the unit. But I do occassionaly load a cooked Rom, and I see the same things.
For example: I'll be emailing or texting in landscape, if I get any kind of alert, it switches to portrait and sticks there until I close it then open it again.
It's not a big deal, I've been dealing with it for awhile and still love the 8525, but Im upgrading to the Pro in a few weeks and I'm hoping I wont see this. I just expect the unit to be locked in landscape when the keyboard is pulled out no matter what shell I'm using, especially tf2d or 3d.
For those who might be interesting in buying Touch HD:
1) "Today" at HD works in portrait mode only. (I used only landscape in Polaris)
2) Scroll wheel in Polaris is very convenient. I missed it in HD.
Regards.
Hi I can't agree with your opinion.
I've changed from Polaris to HD 5 days ago,
Today screen works also in portrait and landscape mode!
Scroll wheel I never needed on Polaris.
I prefer the large display instead of the scroll wheel.
I don't know, man. Claiming the Polaris beats out the HD is a very hard sell. I know if they sold one with US 3G bands I'd be ALL over it without looking back, heh.
halorin said:
I don't know, man. Claiming the Polaris beats out the HD is a very hard sell. I know if they sold one with US 3G bands I'd be ALL over it without looking back, heh.
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about that, i dont use 3g at all, will buying a device from the states work here in europe ? since i am flying in 2 days for san diego ?
stt57 said:
Hi I can't agree with your opinion.
I've changed from Polaris to HD 5 days ago,
Today screen works also in portrait and landscape mode!
Scroll wheel I never needed on Polaris.
I prefer the large display instead of the scroll wheel.
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1) "HTC Home", which I meant, does not exist alone in HD. It is included in "TouchFLO 3D", which still works in portrait mode only. Neither Gyrator 2 nor Gsen (unstable at HD) can rotate "TouchFLO 3D" (actually Gyrator 2 can rotate it, but when in "lock" mode only -- looks damn anyway). Known attempts to install alone "HTC Home" at HD are failed.
Thus, most time you are locked in portrait mode at HD.
2) I use scroll wheel each time when I read news (RSS) or texts in Polaris. The scroll wheel is very ergonomic in Polaris (although RSS code does not scroll correctly after the official WM6.1 upgrade, but the upgrade by NewsBreak (RSS V2) restores the functionality).
HD screen has noticeably larger, than in Polaris, screen length. The total screen length in HD is nearly the same at the sum of Polaris's length plus its scroll wheel area.
Thus, I have to use the "scroll wheel" area in HD anyway and found it inconvenient because:
1) anyway, you cannot scroll close to the edge of the screen because of presence of the ruler, which "naturally" moves in the opposite (to the finger) direction;
2) In 50% cases the finger marks the text instead of scrolling -- most inconvenient;
3) and what's about the fat traces at the HD's screen in the "scroll area"? -- I had to clean HD screen every evening.
3) There are few hardware improvements in HD:
a) you can lock the device by inserting the stylus back to its holder.
(i.e. keep the stylus out the device when you are using it actively, ha-ha). Fortunately, this feature can be disabled.
b) automatic adjustment of the backlight. Great, but what's about "floodlight" into your eyes when you just awoken (by wakeup alarm) in the dark room ?
Fortunately, this can also be disabled.
Regards.
PS: I returned back to Polaris.
Yeah sort of a hard sell, I like my phone but the HD is a sweet device. If the HD came with quad band GSM and triband 3G, same frequencies as the Polaris, I would be all over that.
What did you do with your HD? Selling it?
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Yeah sort of a hard sell, I like my phone but the HD is a sweet device. If the HD came with quad band GSM and triband 3G, same frequencies as the Polaris, I would be all over that.
What did you do with your HD? Selling it?
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Christmas toy to my child. Hope he will find how to improve it by himself.
i suppose is just a matter of getting used to anything new... i suppose if you did use the HD for a while, you wouldnt change back to the polaris... unless you dont like changing in your life...
i found it difficult to get used to every new phone i bought, apart from the excitement in the beginning.... but in a few days i would be allready settled on my new phone, even if i did miss some of the bits of my previous one... you allways get round it....
question: Why did you even bother buying it, since you allready knew there wasnt a scroll button??
The very INSTANT I have the $$$, my trusted Polaris will retire, and a new HD will be in my hand I will still use my Polaris for 3g tethering, tho...
Edit: Ha!! My new HD will be shipped Monday (Nov 17th) morning!!!
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i suppose is just a matter of getting used to anything new... i suppose if you did use the HD for a while, you wouldnt change back to the polaris... unless you dont like changing in your life...
i found it difficult to get used to every new phone i bought, apart from the excitement in the beginning.... but in a few days i would be allready settled on my new phone, even if i did miss some of the bits of my previous one... you allways get round it....
question: Why did you even bother buying it, since you allready knew there wasnt a scroll button??
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1) I cannot live with obsolete portrait mode (I did not know that HTC Home became a part of portrait-only TouchFLo in HD). "portrait only" software from the producer of the high-tech device with in-build g-sensor -- does not it sounds strange?
2) scrolling by finger is better (natural) in iphone;
3) I did not know that there is still no hardware video support in HD
igoivo said:
1) "HTC Home", which I meant, does not exist alone in HD. It is included in "TouchFLO 3D", which still works in portrait mode only. Neither Gyrator 2 nor Gsen (unstable at HD) can rotate "TouchFLO 3D" (actually Gyrator 2 can rotate it, but when in "lock" mode only -- looks damn anyway). Known attempts to install alone "HTC Home" at HD are failed.
Thus, most time you are locked in portrait mode at HD.
2) I use scroll wheel each time when I read news (RSS) or texts in Polaris. The scroll wheel is very ergonomic in Polaris (although RSS code does not scroll correctly after the official WM6.1 upgrade, but the upgrade by NewsBreak (RSS V2) restores the functionality).
HD screen has noticeably larger, than in Polaris, screen length. The total screen length in HD is nearly the same at the sum of Polaris's length plus its scroll wheel area.
Thus, I have to use the "scroll wheel" area in HD anyway and found it inconvenient because:
1) anyway, you cannot scroll close to the edge of the screen because of presence of the ruler, which "naturally" moves in the opposite (to the finger) direction;
2) In 50% cases the finger marks the text instead of scrolling -- most inconvenient;
3) and what's about the fat traces at the HD's screen in the "scroll area"? -- I had to clean HD screen every evening.
3) There are few hardware improvements in HD:
a) you can lock the device by inserting the stylus back to its holder.
(i.e. keep the stylus out the device when you are using it actively, ha-ha). Fortunately, this feature can be disabled.
b) automatic adjustment of the backlight. Great, but what's about "floodlight" into your eyes when you just awoken (by wakeup alarm) in the dark room ?
Fortunately, this can also be disabled.
Regards.
PS: I returned back to Polaris.
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How can I disable the locking device when inserting the stylus?
Thanks!!!
1) Disabling stylus can be done with Gyrator 2
2) Correction of wrong HTC's auto light calibration can be done with G-light.
Actually it is the light sensor hardware problem in HD. Namely, it reports almost zero light signal in a quite broad light conditions from full dark till twilight. Thus, the scale should not be uniform.
I've had my leo (us version) for a little over a year, and in the traditional MS way of things, the dern thing needs a hard reset. If I get motivated enough, I'm going to try android, but that's another story.
For the moment, there is one thing that has pissed me off about WM6.5 on the Leo since I started using it: it forces portrait mode in certain apps like the home screen, phone, start menu list, remote desktop, etc......
Is there any way to.....uh..... "unforce" portrait in these apps? I would like for it to just work like all the other apps that read the Gsensor.
I know it's possible, because there are moments when I cut my phone on/off or cover the proximity sensor and I can see those apps in landscape mode for just a moment before they automatically switch to and "lock" in portrait mode.
I googled it, and searched here, and can't seem to find a straightforward answer. I've also found work arounds for specific apps, but don't want to fix 1 or 2 programs that are limited by this, I want to just fix it so any program will react to the g sensor.
Anyone know anything about this?
TIA!
Hello to all, am going to ask if anybody of you have a problem in TPs Touch Capacitive Pad? I used this app
Nav Debug Tool by HTC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2511016
To check out this multi touch stuff in my TP (though I know before that it has a multi touch feature, I just want to check if it's working properly) but it seems that the pad has a problem. The problem was sometimes, it can register my touch and most of the time, not.. sometimes it can register the multi touch, and most of the time, not .. even the nav wheel has a problem which doesn't register the rotation most of the time. Is this a common problem in TPs or even Diamond??
I even use the signed os WM6.1 but still has a problem.. so I wonder if any of you guys having the same..
thanks!
It's been happening to me for about a year already as well. Seems like it's just defective. It resets thought after sleeping the phone and waking it. I'm not sure if it was because I used to use Sensor scroll or it's a little scratched up.
I hear the d-pad was a good conceptual idea but that is about it... I personally don't use the d-pad at all because of this, much less any of the buttons (to include the power button). On the other hand, from what I can tell about the d-pad "sensor" from using the NDT(Nav debug tool), it does seem pick up points but it seems to not like repetitive touches. It almost seems like the sensor overloads the processor to the point that it fails in terms of keeping up with the actual location that is being touched; if that makes any sense?
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I hear the d-pad was a good conceptual idea but that is about it... I personally don't use the d-pad at all because of this, much less any of the buttons (to include the power button). On the other hand, from what I can tell about the d-pad "sensor" from using the NDT(Nav debug tool), it does seem pick up points but it seems to not like repetitive touches. It almost seems like the sensor overloads the processor to the point that it fails in terms of keeping up with the actual location that is being touched; if that makes any sense?
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that made sense but why would HTC permit a buggy front pad???
You know, it seems many phone brands/cooperations come under fire due to lack of something or another; maybe proof of concept? Perhaps the debug tool is to blame? Or even the sensor degradation over time? One can only speculate so far before it becomes a volatile thought... Again, I point out the idea being good, conceptually. So, I don't know where that exactly puts us as being end users? Then again, I've never really had a decent experience with phones, much less with newer phones; my thoughts and expectations may be slightly on the negative/lesser side of things because of this.
I have the same issue. I used to use GScroll to flip pages in e-books, but finally it got so buggy I had to dump it (other GScroll features were almost impossible to use). I've used NavPad DBug. What I do find is that running the compact heaps command of SK Tools will temporarily fix things, at least most of the time. When I have NavPad DBug running, if it's logging compact heaps will clear out the traces. Somehow or other, it cleans things out when the nav pad gets confused or overloaded with inputs. But even compact heaps doesn't work all the time.
It would be sweet if the capacitative area really worked, but unfortunately it appears to get worn out about the time that you figure out all the things you can do with it. Lol.
Edit: I wonder if the device has problems distinguishing a single touch of your finger vs. several touches. That could really screw up the function of the device.