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Why does TomTom 4.4 scroll smoothly on a Himalaya or Alpine, but TomTom 5 jerks.
4.4 and 5 are both smooth on an HP 6315, which has a slower CPU.
Any ideas?
I have tried with Socket, Leadtek, and TomTom's own BT GPS mk 2 receiver, and no difference, so it's not a speed issue I don't think.
(Yes, I have tried the 5.10 update, but it doesn't make any difference)
I never used 4.4, but 5 is much smoother than 3. Though I'm sure that doesn't help.
Cheers
Ant
hi if you want it to get rid of all the jerks remove all your poi pictures and use the tomtom selection and you will find it goes smooth again
oh if you use the pocket gps safty camera setup those work ok
What I've found works pretty well if you don't wanna use the POI's (which I'm currently trying to use to see if the random crashes have got better on tt5.10) is to turn them off, but to use the warning that you can set up to let you know before you hit chosen POIs. Very useful and I don't think it causes the crashes as they're not showing on the map.
Ant
:lol: should it scroll smoothly??!!
Mine updates the screen every second or thereabouts, is that not what it's supposed to do?
[edit]Turned off POI, and it scrolls smoothly now! Much nicer, shame you cant have the POI on as well though, even the tomtom own ones slow the map down
OK so turning off some POI fixes it, but why would the HP with less RAM and a slower CPU scroll smoothly where an Alpine or Himalaya will not?
No changes to settings between the two.
Is the graphics chip on them that much worse?
Were you running it from the same SD card, apparently that makes a difference, I honestly didn't know it was supposed to scroll smoothly, I'm going to have a play later to see if I can work out what makes it go jerky.
i've got my tt5 running off the sd card and it runs fine on my jam/vpa.Also download that patch that's floating around these forums somewhere,i've had no more crashes with the poi since.I found that the poi that made my tt5 crash was the cash dispenser one,it only ever crashed when that was turned on.Also,any body know where i can get the safety camera poi from?cheers
I've got the patch (funnily enough as it was me that posted it :lol: )
You can get the speed camera POIs from www.pocketgps.co.uk
cheers for that patch then,works great!I was one step ahead of you on pocket gps though,i googled and found it,cheers anyway just installed the speed camera software and the voice overs that you can have with them,works well!!!!
Which speed camera software are you using with TT5 that will give you voice prompts ???
It's here http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtom-poi-alerts.php .It replaces the crappy sounds you get with voice promts for speed cameras and speeds etc
Sorry forgot the other bit of the q-the software is on the same site.It's here http://www.easydevices.co.uk/sp/searchbox13/main.asp?sitepages=Downloads .Install that then install the voice promts.Hope this helps
I had a bit of a play around with this last night and found out the following.
If you enable, but don't show the POIs (you still get proximity warnings this way) - scrolling is smooth even with 3rd party POIs
if you enable and show ONLY POIs that come with TTN5 - scrolling is smooth
The second you show ANY 3rd party POI, no matter how small (I used Oxford park and rides as there are only 5 of them) the scrolling is jerky.
Is there a way to move the POIs to the phones internal memory to see if that speeds them up?
You'd have to have tomtom installed on your phones storage and leave the maps on your sd card,although I have the speed camera poi and some other 3rd party poi and mine seems to run smooth.Seems very strange all this....
jaythemagician said:
You'd have to have tomtom installed on your phones storage and leave the maps on your sd card,although I have the speed camera poi and some other 3rd party poi and mine seems to run smooth.Seems very strange all this....
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That's how mine is setup, where are your 3rd party POIs?
And where on the phone should I put my 3rd party POIs in order for TTN5 to recognise them?
You should put them all in the file great-britain-map.Extract them from the zip and just put the OV2. and bmp. file of the poi in there.Don't create another folder within the map folder just dump them in there among the other files in there otherwise tt wouldn't find them.hope that helps.I have mine all installed on the sd card-maybe try this if this doesn't work?although if anywhere i would of thought it would run better of the phones storage :?:
Eh??
That's what I said, they are currently installed on my storage card in the maps directory, I want to try them on the phone's own memory to see if it speeds it up at all. Is that possible?
Also, what POI's do you have installed, if it's the speed cameras, do you have the individual ones or the single file version?
oh.misunderstood!you'll have to re-install it into file explorer-program files.i downloaded the speed camera poi,unzipped them and put all the ov2 and bmp files in one at a time
Weird, it sounds like we have identical setups, but on your it works and on mine it jerks (ooh poetry!)
I assume then that you have all speed camera POIs set to show and also to give you warnings?
What type of SD card do you have?
Hi!
New to this forum and new to the wonderful world of Windows Mobile.
Coming from a palm-world where most things just tend to work, this has been somewhat of a reminder of the early Windows desktop days.
I'm having some issues (One of these issues made me choose this forum, if this was in error, I apologize in advance).
1. Active sync worked once, but never again.
It seems the mp3-files I added (251 of them), makes active sync just time-out in the media stage. I have not found a way to remove media from active sync either to confirm this. I cannot access settings since it times out with the sync. Edit: The media-row in the active-sync window also states that the installation has to be completed first. Which it already has.
2. Media player does not add files to library.
I do the file-search and it finds 251 files on the SD-card, makes a slight paus and finds 4 more files. Then it adds only those 4 files. accessing the storage card in the library and my music only produces an unexpected error. I have not tried to empty and reformat, or a lower file-count just yet. But to me this seems like a bug that not only scans the storage-card but also the device and then only adds what's on the device. What is added is 4 ring-tones.
3. A2DP...
Well, I read the instructions on the two threads dedicated to this, but it does me no good since I find no files in either of them. I am willing to host those files for you if needed by the way. I really want A2DP since I already got the Jabra BT-620s.
4. Not a real important one but, overclocking.
I ran the OMAP_TI_Overclock thingie, but absolutely nothing changes. Still 195 Mhz whatever I do. I find people have fall-backs in a few minutes or after reset, but this is immediate. The utility says it sets the clock and that the current clock has changed, but as soon as I go to the system-info it says 195. And starting the utility again it says it set as 180 (which according to the system obviously equals 195 ).
These are the current obstacles to overcome before I turn to media-control from the headset, and other more daily handling stuff that obviously already works fine (Voice-control, and contacts and stuff)
There was something more, but I forgot. I'll return to that. Now I'm off to the golf course hoping for some good advice to start pouring in...
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson
1. Buy a card-reader. They're cheap and save your nerves as AS 4.1 is EXTREMELY unstable comparing to 3.8 one
2. Dunno.
3. Try reading again. Works just fine
4. In the ABOUT info you'kk never see the change as it's not a monitor of CPU but the info contained like plain TXT. as for the program use action-set clock - and then action-exit. If you do load it before you turn Prophet off you'll see the clock is still in there
About #1:
Yes, I have several. More than I have computers actually, which is a lot!
Not that more helps in this case. I got my S200 Yesterday so I am really only starting out to get things going. This is just my initial small problems. I just find it frustrating that I cannot change what will be synced with Active sync until a sync is successfully completed, which is never. So We'll see how I solve that one...
About #4:
Is there a real system info utility around?
About #3:
I am sure it works fine. I just cannot find the needed files. They're nowhere around for download. At least not in the threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43992&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225
And:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=275438#275438
So if you know where they are (Especially the one talked about in the first thread), please direct me towards them.
Best regards
Bo Eriksson
1. I just mean uploading thru AS WAS ALWAYS laggy and still is unles you do upload small files.
4. Why would you want one, you just see it working faster.
3. I attached both files zipped for you.
Ok, I got A2DP working now, Great, and thanks. I didn't realize the files only were visible while logged in , yup real newbie-alert .
And I installed Resco Explorer to do things more easily.
What remains is the problem with my Media library.
I cannot fathom what's going on. It's like this. I have 221 files on the storage card, and the system has 4 on the device itself. It scans both and lists 225 as found, then it takes a good 3 minutes adding files. Then it reports 4 files added. And only the library on my device shows anything (The four ringtones) trying to access the storage card library only results in an error.
Still, I can just click any of the files in the explorer and it plays perfectly (now in glorious wireless stereo!)... So there's nothing wrong with the card and the files. It's just the Library update thingy that fails me.
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson
I solved the Media Library thing.
I started deleting albums and doing new updates, but still no luck even down to one single MP3. So then I remembered something someone said in a thread somewhere about the MSMETADATA folder containing the library, so I simply removed it from the storage card and updated the library again. Voila! Now it works!
From now on I will only add a smaller number of files at a time, doing new library updates...
So now it's only the Active Sync problem remaining.
I just can't get it to work anymore. I tried reinstalling it late yesterday, but no luck...
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson
The only choice of PPC mapping software for Non-Chinese speaking users in Asia is pretty much Mapking. And Mapking exerts a hefty prices for it: HKD 280 for Beijing only, HKD 330 for Hong Kong and so forth. Add some cities and you’ll be talking real money.
However, Mapking is a total dud on both of my Hermes (WM5) and Trnity (GPS, WM6.) Mapking2007 AND Mapking G10 refuse to load on both devices. They give me a splash screen and die. The only thing I get loaded is the obsolete Mapking5, and that has no maps for sale.
If you google "Mapking" and "splash screen," you will see that this phenomenon is widespread. I found lots of complaints and no solution.
However, Mapking does nothing to address the issue.
I have sent [email protected] several emails, from friendly to grumpy, and ALL emails remained unanswered. Mapking is either dead, or they are playing dead. They collect money for product that is unfit for sale. And they ignore their customers.
Google Maps is free and works like a charm in HK. Alas, no Google maps for Beijing. I’m wide open for suggestions.
D810 English rom + Mapking G10 here, from WM5 to WM6, from HK to Taipei to Beijing, worked like a charm, no problem experienced.
No Problems here
PDAViet rom 10
Mapking 2007, Hong kong, Hong Kong Hiking, Shenzen, Manila maps installed. always found it very stable
D810 English rom + Mapking 2007 + Malaysia maps - working fine.
Upon launching Mapking, it will wait between 3-8 mins b4 GPS initiate.
Guess is common as it take time to load the GPS.
mapking - splashscreen - Quits
Dont know if anyone solved the Mapking closes after Splashscreen issue yet but i kinda fixed it.
I installed Pocket Mechanics, Low Level format the Card. Set Cluster size to 4K.
Reinstall mapking 2007 and its working. Still testing it. Unless there is a problem. I wouldnt be posting anything.
serphinox said:
Dont know if anyone solved the Mapking closes after Splashscreen issue yet but i kinda fixed it.
I installed Pocket Mechanics, Low Level format the Card. Set Cluster size to 4K.
Reinstall mapking 2007 and its working. Still testing it. Unless there is a problem. I wouldnt be posting anything.
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Hi
This is VERY interesting, I have a d810=Trinity and have the same Splash screen problem. Please let me know what version of Pocket Mecahnic you installed and how did you configure it.
By the way when i install the Mapking R12 version everything works OK but there are missing maps like India etc. If someone knows how to convert G10 or 2007 maps to the R12 map format this would be great.
splash screen issue
I had trouble getting Mapking (G10 and below) to work on WM5 too. All I had to do was move a bunch of files off of the card and reinstall then it launched the first time and has worked ever since. It wasn't a card space issue, it seems to have something to do with it scanning the card (for map files?) on first startup. I could move the files back onto the card after that without issues. I just upgraded to WM6 and G10 installed fine, albeit with a half empty 2GB card this time...
I should clarify, I believe the issue was NUMBER of files, not the space used on the card. In any case, try moving as many files off as possible, reinstalling, and see if that works...
robotbrain said:
I had trouble getting Mapking (G10 and below) to work on WM5 too. All I had to do was move a bunch of files off of the card and reinstall then it launched the first time and has worked ever since. It wasn't a card space issue, it seems to have something to do with it scanning the card (for map files?) on first startup. I could move the files back onto the card after that without issues. I just upgraded to WM6 and G10 installed fine, albeit with a half empty 2GB card this time...
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Which files did you move, from where and where to??
If I remember correctly it was just a ton of assorted files from "My Documents" It didn't seem to me to matter what it was, just to reduce the number of files on the card.
@ausi
According to this http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t89755.html you can just change the extension for compatibility between the g10 and 2007. I'd almost bet the same thing applies to r12 since it is supposed to just be a rebranded version of one or the other for OEMs (I think it's closer to g10, maybe minus a few features)
Robotbrain:
I tried it but it didn't work for me.
Hi,
The above problem plague many mapking users, surprising never see a reply from the company that make this excellent navigation software for pocketpc. Well after many sleepless night and different configurations, finally found out the real cause.
The problem lies with the mapking program don't like any directories and files that the characters added up together be more than 128 characters. This is root of all the problems.
a, No problem.
\Storage card\Programs Store\abc.txt
b. Got problem. The below complete file path is more than 128 characters.
\Storage card\Programs Store\1234567890\12345678901234567890\123456789012345678901234567890\1234567890123456789012345678901234567890\abc.txt
Also, Mapking only search for mapfiles on the location that it is being installed. For example, if the mapking is installed in the phone/pocketpc main memory, it will only search for maps there. If mapking is installed in Storage Card, it will therefore only search there.
There are few senerios that will make users complain that mapking cannot work. For example,
1. For 1st start after installing mapking, if there is any directories/files that is more than 128 characters, mapking will exit after displaying the splash screen and will keep doing that.
2. If there is no directories/files that is more than 128 characters, after showing the splash screen, mapking will run and show the default mapfile(hk demo map). It will create a registry key in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\MapAsia MapKing2007\Init
MainMapFile=\Where is the installed directory\Where is the installed directory\mapfile name.m7a
User can add additional maps on the place where mapking is being installed. In the phone/pocketpc main memory or the Storage Card, and the user will be happy.
3. But down the road, the user unknowingly installed some software or add any file that has a complete path name more than 128 characters, the user will still able to use mapking, but he can't Open Map(search for new map) any more. If he tries to Open map, the hour glass will keep spinning. If the user delete or move the map, the mapking program cannot run after the splash screen, it will says Cannot load map or no map found. The program is the registry key still remains MainMapFile=\Where is the installed directory\Where is the installed directory\mapfile name.m7a so, since the map stated is not there it will create an error and exits.
So long story short, if want to run mapking, don't create or have any directory or file path name that is more than 128 characters in the same memory location(phone/pocketpc main memory or the Storage Card) as mapking.
Regards
Hello All,
I accidentally came across the following behaviour on my HTC Cruise, and I found it quite interesting. Personally, I am quite happy with my HTC Cruise, despite the famous display driver missing...
Of course, I am upset like most people, since HTC seemed to be so keen in advertising the device's multimedia abilities. HTC have lost a couple of credibility points for me...
Anyway, on with the question now...
When I select Programs from the start menu and move my finger up and down on the scroll bar, the display seems to demonstrate quite a lag; icons are slow to redraw and the display seems to "flicker". I understand this is quite subjective, it depends on the number of programs one might have installed, etc.
However..... When I select Programs from the HTC Today plug in, (2nd icon on top row of third tab), the same action (moving up and down the scrollbar), is so much faster!
It's not a big deal, but the difference on my HTC is quite striking. How about yours? I am a software developer and find this quite interesting as it seems to be the same function, but performace seems to be different. Can it be a setting somewhere, can it be that HTC developers did not pay the attention they should? (and admitted the fact that extra performance can be achieved by stating they will provide a "patch" for it).
Do you get the same behaviour?
Thanks for reading
You are correct.
Even when removing the "big menu" option as advised on TC tweaking, program list accessed from home plugin tab scrolls much much faster than program list accessed from "Start" menu.
This is quite interesting
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yes same for me! - very strange, why would this be?
Yep, same here. Verrrryy interrresting.
When I actually got this device and scrolled the icons in programs, I was immediately puzzled as it did not seem to be very promising. The settings window has a much smoother scroll (yes, I know, it has less icons as well)...
I am sure there must be a difference somehow from an implementation point of view, or at least a different setting somewhere. Maybe a different startup setting, or something.
I have read about the tweaks and the different settings you can change, for example Cache font size, etc.
However, the mere fact that the same functionality has such a dramatic difference depending on how you invoke it, to me is a case of not so efficient programming.
If HTC comes out with a new display "patch" which actually manages to make a difference, then it would be almost certain that their "first" version was not so efficient, a mere indication they could have done better straight from the beginning.
They are implemented differently too. If you open Programs from the Start Menu and close it then go to Settings -> Memory -> Running Programs you won't see anything. Now if you launch Programs from the HTC plugin and then close it and then go look at running programs you will see it running. (This is assuming you don't have the HTC Task Manager configured to close applications when hitting X). Must be implemented differently in the back end.
I agree there is a difference. Scrolling of icons f.e. under programs is much quicker, not sure are executebale files running quicker too?
That really weird! scrolling is really smooth, I have noticed the icon on my top right I have a .net configurator icon, when opening programs via the plug in the name under the icon is missing but opening programs normally the name under the icon is there realated some how?
It seems indeed a different program. I have WkTask installed and when I get the Programs appearing via the HTC, I can see that this actually starts a window (as hambola says).
When I select Programs via the Start menu, no window title appears.
Another difference is that when I start Programs via HTC home, I can see the scrollbar getting "smaller" as the icons seem to be added in that window "on the fly"; then the icons always appear "top-aligned". When I close that window and reopen it via HTC, it is the same.
On the other hand, when selecting Programs via the Start menu the icons are already there, plus the scrollbar remembers its last position after the window has closed.
There are small differences really, it is just interesting how these affect the quality of scrolling...
is this in anyway linked to the driver issues?
Not sure, sometimes I'm not even sure what things are linked to driver issues and what things aren't. For example I used to have an 8525 which is apparently not affected by this driver issue. But rotating the display on that device was no faster than what I get with my TC. In fact maybe it was even slower, I don't have it with me to compare. So I don't know if drivers will even fix something like that. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
What about the dialer skin coming up on the TC. That's really slow. I see the different sections being painted on the screen. The Comm Manager will only load up fast if it's not in the "Running Programs". So first time I run it, it loads up in one shot, if i close it and try opening it again I will see it paint the different blocks. If I actually stop it in Running Programs and then try it again, then it loads in one shot. Driver issues? Who the hell knows. I doubt it though.
If driver issues fix video playback and they also fix the camera lag, i'll be content. if overall smoothness is fixed and extensive graphics (like games) is fixed, then i'll be happy.
I agree with hambola. I am not sure it's a driver issue. To me it simply shows that it could have been done better.
An even more annoying issue is the dialler skin as habola also suggests. The camera thing is also important.
To me the video playback is not much of an issue; I always encode in QVGA mode without any problem or quality loss. Quality loss is relative, I think it looks fine on the phone, obviously it's not a good idea to play that QVGA video on my PC. An additional advantage when encoding QVGA is saving space. My files in QVGA are usually less than 400MB, whereas my full screen versions are usually less than 1GB. To be honest, I do not see the use of it. Last time I was waiting in an airport, I had around 10 movies in my phone, all perfectly watchable (with perfectly watchable subtitles), a couple of GBs of music and I had additional free space in my storage card. Noway, I could fit 10 movies on it, if the quality was DVD-like. So basically, I do not mind... I think Coreplayer copes ok.
The little things such as lag in scrolling, the dialler skin coming up in pieces in a device that is a PHONE, the camera; these things annoy me.
-And how do you make phone calls, if there is no keyboard?
-Well, you press this button and the dialpad comes up...
-Ah! I see it takes some time to draw that dialpad...
-yes.......
See my point?
quickly thinking about this, it sounds like the HTC plugin is launching it in it's own shell, therefore it isn't monitoring everything else that is going on if it were launched from the main program list, ie. when launched from program list, the priority of running tasks is set to all, whilst from HTC, the program becomes the main focus. Maybe to do with threading, HTC was compiled with hyper threading, and the normal today screen wasn't. This is a very loose and fast analogy by me so feel free to shoot it down!!
also, you have to consider what memory is being freed up by which launcher, for what app etc. etc. etc. Memory plays a big part in performance, if there isn't enough of it, then the CPU has to start working shifting sh#t around, lots of cycles wasted etc. Gotta remember this is a M$ OS, they aint the brightest sparks sometimes
This same thing happens on my Athena after I launch the programs folder a second time (using standard start menu). This is most likely caused by the bitmap icons being loaded in the device's cache. Wouldn't get my hopes up.
Hi All...
I'm using WM6.5 on my polaris "Touch Cruise", and it is good:
(Really there aren't any differences between it and 6.1 except some new updates like:
1- Background in "Strat Menu".
2- GFX Booster.
3- New animations, Icons and Indicators.
4- Some new programs.)
so I tried to run IGO 8 and it worked well.
after a while (A few days), I ran it... it started normally, appeared the usual blue screen with IGO 8 Logo and started to load its components (Loading POIs, Data, User Settings, Mainscreen Load) then (Starting)... at this moment it lag and do not respond any more (Although I haven't changed any settings in it...)
It seems that by time the system has build some kind of files (Or maybe lost it) that prevents the IGO 8 from running normally....
Please Help ...
Thanks in Advance!!
wow...i don't have problem at all using iGo8 till now, it run smooth, and i'm also using megan rom wwe winmo 6.5
igo has a few config files that are updated as you use the program. It may happen that the program freezes the device and ofter this ends up with corrupted config files. Is a good practice to keep back up of the config files (voices, zoom options, backlight options, etc). To restore you can simply delete those files and they will be created with default values next time you launch the program.
do not ask me for the filenames since my device does not freeze that often but if you do some search with google will find for sure.