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Hello. So I made the move from my wing to the G1. I got it yesterday and so far Im happy with it. Well, I already started to mess around with it. The first thing that I try to do was to root it. My G1 came with RC30 and I downgrade it to RC29 but that's as far as I could go. I couldnt go throught the whole rooting tutorial because I keep getting some errors. Anyway, I decided to leave my phone the way it is at least for a little while but then I was thinking on updating it. So, how can I go from RC29 to RC30 now? I never saw an option in the phone to upgrade OTA so I dont know what to do now... Any help?
TIA
this really helped me, just read carefully and follow all the steps
Follow this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Do it step by step and you'll be fine.
thank you all for the replies
I plan on rooting my phone in the next couple of days, but I was wondering if the HardSPL that you install during the "How To Root your G1" tutorial will cause any issues if I want to go back to the "official" g1 firmware from Tmobile. From reading about SPL, the stock SPL is from HTC but the HardSPL thats on the tutorial is modified. Would I replace the modified SPL if I want to go back to the official firmware?
If you look real hard, you can find a sticky about this!
But I'll be nice and sweet tonight, so here it is!
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3e938d02f4c16b82&hl=en
vdl68 said:
If you look real hard, you can find a sticky about this!
But I'll be nice and sweet tonight, so here it is!
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3e938d02f4c16b82&hl=en
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Did you post in the wrong thread? That link is about rc33 OTA update. My question is about getting back to official firmware after rooting the phone and whether the HardSPL can stay or revert back to the original.
androidmonkey said:
Did you post in the wrong thread? That link is about rc33 OTA update. My question is about getting back to official firmware after rooting the phone and whether the HardSPL can stay or revert back to the original.
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here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
to go back to original everything just use the original spl in an update.zip and then use the DREAIMG.nbh from when you rooted your phone and you will have stock stuff like it just came out of the box
tubaking182 said:
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
to go back to original everything just use the original spl in an update.zip and then use the DREAIMG.nbh from when you rooted your phone and you will have stock stuff like it just came out of the box
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So if I want to go back I would first install the rc29 then the original SPL, then upgrade to rc33?
Whats the purpose of using the HardSPL vs the original SPL?
no, do the original SPL THEN the .nbh you need to have root to flash an update.zip that is not signed with the proper keys, as for the benefits of hard SPL over the original go here and read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
i took a look at all your posts and EVERYTHING you have said on the boards so far has been a question that is easily answered if you read. good luck on this phone i give you a week before i see a thread saying you bricked it
tubaking182 said:
i took a look at all your posts and EVERYTHING you have said on the boards so far has been a question that is easily answered if you read. good luck on this phone i give you a week before i see a thread saying you bricked it
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Thanks. Some of the FAQs are not very clear. I'm not sure what you mean by EVERYTHING I've said on the board...
btw, are you hoping I brick my phone? So far I've read 4 different tutorials on how to root your phone. Each one has something different than the other. I'm just trying to get the facts straight before rooting my phone.
look for the thread "app that roots your phone" tell him in a PM that you want to beta test it, when i ran it or him on the last version he needed to fix the telnet script and he is pretty sure he got that working. i would give the link but since it is not my app it is not my place to give out the link.
i do not hope you brick your phone, but i see it as an inevitable thing, i know what i'm doing, i'm no guru but certainly not a n00b and i have managed to "brick" my phone just bout every day because i am always trying new things. the main thing to remember is that as long as when you turn your phone in you get the SPL or recovery then you do not have a true brick. i wish you the best in all your hacking but be forewarned that everything you try has the potential to render the phone unusable for a few hours till you figure out how to fix it. ALWAYS keep the DREAIMG.nbh on your sdcard and an update.zip that contains one of the many JF builds and you will never be too far from fixing your phone.
tubaking182 said:
i do not hope you brick your phone, but i see it as an inevitable thing, i know what i'm doing, i'm no guru but certainly not a n00b and i have managed to "brick" my phone just bout every day because i am always trying new things.
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I understand. Hopefully I wont brick the phone but the nice thing about GSM phones is that I can jut pop my SIM card into my old phone if any issues come up with the G1. I just see people being mean to noobs when at some point in time they were noobs also.
The main reason I want to root the phone is to move the cache to my SD card. The onboard memory on the G1 is a joke. I knew the limitations when I bought the phone in October, but I thought for sure they would have come out with a update that lets you run apps from your SD card. Being a early adopter is fun
if you have less than a class 6 sdcard then moving the cache will have loads of lag, took 3 seconds to delete an email on my class 4. but if you just wanna move apps then you'll be fine
tubaking182 said:
if you have less than a class 6 sdcard then moving the cache will have loads of lag, took 3 seconds to delete an email on my class 4. but if you just wanna move apps then you'll be fine
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Interesting. I may have to buy a microSDHC card since the microSD card that came with the phone has no rating on it. After reading about SDHC, it seems only SDHC has the 2,4,6 rating.
use the RC29 NBH, it flashes everything including bootloader, then use the official signed RC33 update (40mb) and you will be back to stock rc33
korndub said:
use the RC29 NBH, it flashes everything including bootloader, then use the official signed RC33 update (40mb) and you will be back to stock rc33
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Thanks korndub
androidmonkey said:
I understand. Hopefully I wont brick the phone but the nice thing about GSM phones is that I can jut pop my SIM card into my old phone if any issues come up with the G1. I just see people being mean to noobs when at some point in time they were noobs also.
The main reason I want to root the phone is to move the cache to my SD card. The onboard memory on the G1 is a joke. I knew the limitations when I bought the phone in October, but I thought for sure they would have come out with a update that lets you run apps from your SD card. Being a early adopter is fun
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i was a noob before i found xda.. but in the short time i have been here i have learned sooo much.. i love this site and my rooted/themed G1!
Welcome!
Hey all, Ill only ask this once, (Since after this time, Ill know for future updates and be on the right path =) )since this G1 is so new dev wise, its getting confusing when im studying everything all at once and only updated rooted once to the custom RC30. I saw the newer update is RC33, now when I apply that, is it required EACH TIME to wipe the device? Im asking cause it would be a pain to reinstall each app I had installed there to begin with. I know I wiped the 1st time I rooted and updated. So just wanted to check.
Also whats the new additions in these updates? Any good changelogs out there? I kinda like keeping the Tmobile US stuff on mine, but root access is awesome. =)
Thanks for any update tips out there atm.
Edit, My G1 is still on Firmware 1.1 is that a seperate update or how is everyone updating that with the custom stuff? Thanks. (And do I need that FW update before going RC33?)
Nope, you won't lose anything when you upgrade the firmware normally. Going from JF RC30 to JF RC33 should be fine
Check the stickied topic on the top of the forum to find out more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475381
The changelog is somewhere in there.
Thank you. =) I didnt read that one since it was talking about for UK users. Heh. Least it explained things a lil more. =DDD
What about the firmware? Seems Ill have to do the new radio too, but wondering.. is that radio one for US too or only uk? Since its in a UK thread. =/
Nah, it's not a UK topic. He just modifies the title when he adds something new. The radio should be for the US version. Just download the radio and JF RC33 and throw them on your microSD (one at a time obviously, named update.zip).
Firmware 1.1 is just like the base firmware number, you can ignore that. Firmware 1.5 (I think) is cupcake, so you get the idea.
Ok so the firmware is nothing major atm to update or would you still upset it? I havent looked into cupcake yet.
No, completely ignore the firmware number, the only numbers you want to look at are RC30, 33, etc...
Ok this is odd. I updated fine to RC33, however when I try to get back in recovery mode to apply the radio rom, it wont go into the recovery mode. It just keeps rebooting to the G1 screen when im holding the home button. Anyone seen that before or how to get back into the recovery mode?
Anyone have any ideas?
Hi all
I feel like i am going round in circles trying to get my 32b magic rooted. Ive tried all sorts of methods even buying relentless rooter magic, but after lots of helpful emails i was told i have a perfected spl1.33.0007.
I was then told my problem would be solved by creating a gold card. I did this following the unlockr guide. Then went back to trying to use relentless rooter but I still cannot get the phone rooted.
I would appreciace any guidance at this point as I really dont know what else to do. Some of the help people give is great but it assumes a certain level of android knowledge that I have not got and will not ever have.
Thanks in advance fellas. I hope you can help as I love my phone
Regards
Del
have you tried follow these instructions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
to make sure your not on perfect spl.
for rooting check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
then you should be able to fix it
Sorry to be stupid but where do i get the following from?
* an non-perfected SPL (preferably an engineerings SPL).
* a ROM with a version that is HIGHER than your current ROM version.
Im sure this is all straighforward stuff to all you guys who do this all the time but it just seems like one obstacle after another for me
Thanks again for the help
i don't know much about the 32b version, but the second thread i posted to you is the one to use, try read very good the first post in it, cause the first thread i posted he tells 32b user to go to the second thread, so try study the second thread thats what i can do to help, hope you find something in it.
Again please excuse my stupidity but i have not a clue what ROM is appropriate for my phone. This is the problem that I always encounter, that others assume that your level of knowledge is comparable to theirs. I know im not a total moron but this is a whole new language to me and the last thing i wanna do is ruin my phone. It seems the more i read on forums etc the more i get confused as there are a seemingly infinite array of different methods to get your phone rooted.
well can you provide info on which spl radio you have now first?
He mentioned in the original post he had perfected spl1.33.0007.
How about telling us what you did with the goldcard process, what happened and what went wrong? Any errors received that you can tell us etc will help us to help you.
just wondering cause he messed with the phone after getting the info of perfected spl so just wanted to be clear what there is to work with so he can get a working good phone
I followed the gold card process on the unlockr webby and all went fine. No issues there at all.
Im now stuck as to what to do next. I bought relentless rooter software and the guy on support has been helpful. Just wondering what my next port of call should be. Like I said im no Mr Android but Im not totally clueless either. I would just like it if someone could tell me what should be the correct/best/simplest procedure for getting my phone rooted and getting the best/closest ROM to 2.0/2.1
Sorry to be a pain but there is so much info out there its really difficult to determine whats right and whats wrong.
BTW Ive got 2 magics so if a totally brick one, Ill know to definitely stop. Unfortunately they both have the same spl
Thanks again in advance
Just tried another method from the relentless support. Ive put SAPP.nbh on my goldcard and restarted with vol down and power. Tried to apply the image and got an error of
model id incorrect!
Update fail
Do you want to reboot device?
any more advice please?
first off im not trying to be a **** here... but..if your having this much trouble rooting, and you admit you dont know much, then why are you bothering rooting??
if you root and get a custom rom on your phone, you will NEED to know how to update said rom, as you will not get support from your carrier.
rooting is not hard, there are MANY guides out there that hold your hand and walk you threw rooting, installing rom ect ect...
for you i would recommend cyanogen mod (www.cyanogenmod.com) JUST because it is stable and works great.. i dont think you want a rom like super d , cdsi , fasttest or something like that where you will probably have to update your rom somewhat often.
please see this guide and READ it fully, its not hard to understand or to follow....just make sure you are on a 32B, if you are not then this guide will not work..
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
also you are looking for a rom that is 2.0/2.1, first off they are not fully functional, there are issues with all 2.0/2.1 roms out there (some are great dont get me wrong, but in my mind not fully functional) so again i would recommend cyanogenmod its based on 1.6 but has bits and pieces of eclair(2.0) in it. before you try a 2.0/2.1 rom i would say get root first, run cyanogenmod and go from there..
again.. im not trying to be a ****.. but it really isnt hard rooting.. and hearing you say you dont know anything is kind of rediculous.. i came into the android scene not knowing anything, its easy to learn if you want to, if you want the easy way out without learning then dont root...
edit: Im sorry i sound harsh, but i still stand behind what i said.. please please please try the cyanogenmod wiki guide, and also please post EXACTLY what sys ver your running, which carrier your on, and confirm please the SPL..
i started out knowing nothing too, but reading and do what guys say in their guides gets you far, and when keep wanting to tell in every post (i know nothing) is kinda saying, don't use custom roms cause if something goes wrong, you will be more fustrated and angry on the android system (also not trying to be rude, but think about it, do you really want to root?)
In the normal course of events I am capable of following the simple instructions found on forums like this to do whatever I need. In the past I have chipped my xbox and flashed my 360, but I am really struggling with my phone. The reason I went for the relentless piece of software was because it was supposed to be simple.
As far as I was concerned I was having a problem following the instructions until I was told I had a perfected SPL. Thats why I had so much difficulty in the past getting it rooted. I thought using relentless might help me out in that respect. It didnt.
So I then find out that I need to create a gold card. Got that sorted ok, then proceeded with the root process. All systems stopped again as I get model id incorrect error. I posted on here to see if anyone else was having the same problems and would be willing to help.
I am really thankful for the suggestions so far and if anyone has any more I will endevour to use them. But my main problem is that there is so much info out there its difficult to work out whats right and wrong especially if you are encountering problems like I am. Ive seen many videos and read many tutorials on how to root so I know it should be straightforward but that has not been my experience thus far
have you tried the wiki link i posted??
start over.. forget everything you have done.. and try that wiki link..
again we need to know your phone model, carrier, spl and sys version(android 1.5, 1.6, ect ect) to move forward if you still are stuck..
Thanks again for your help
My phone is a UK Vodafone Magic 32B
1.33.0007
CPLD-10
Radio- 2.22.19.261
Its running on cupcake and wouldnt update OTA when it was sent out last year
Just reading through that wiki now. Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it
also see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640229&page=2
delboypb said:
Thanks again for your help
My phone is a UK Vodafone Magic 32B
1.33.0007
CPLD-10
Radio- 2.22.19.261
Its running on cupcake and wouldnt update OTA when it was sent out last year
Just reading through that wiki now. Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it
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You need to make certain that your gold card was made properly. My first attempt at making a goldcard failed for no reason what so ever. The second attempt went fine on the same micro sd card. I would follow the directions of using Flashrec. That process has been flawless due to the fact that it takes advantage of a bug in Android 1.5. It's easy as long as your goldcard was made properly. Good Luck
p.s. once your able to flash an engineering/non-perfected spl, Leave It Alone.
I had the same problem with mine, couldnt find a guide that works on a uk Voda Magic
I used this and it worked great:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.p...o_CyanogenMod#Spanish_Vodafone_1.6_NOT_rooted
Use the guide for Non-TMobile 32B Magics
sapphire pvt 32b ship s-on g
hboot-1.33.0007 (sapp30000)
cpld-10
radio-2.22.23.02
jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
main version is older!
update fail!
do you want to reboot device?
action yes
power no
tmobile mytouch 1.6 just a regular mytouch not 1.2 ( fender)
i had rooted about 12 mytouch ( tmobile usa) and never had any problem till now,
i did the gold card using theunlockr how to.
and i still get the same error.
not know what to do to get this done.
i just can't downgrade to 1.5.
thanks.......................................
I finally pulled my head out of my ass last night/early this morning and got a handle on what i needed to do. And now I have a rooted magic with a shiny new hero rom on it. Very pleased with myself. Now off to try to get the second one done. Fingers crossed
Thanks everyone for all your help and patience. Its really appreciated
Back to square 1 again. After the excitement of havig a working root and displaying a rather lovely hero rom, I though all was well. So I decided to have a crack at rooting my other magic. During the process which was unsuccessful this time my original rooted decided to shut itself down for no apparent reason. Whe i tried to reboot it would get to the splash screen and no further even though it had been working perfectly happily just hours before.
Any help please?
The details are:
32b ENG S-OFF h
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
I rooted using the gold card method and flashed with a hero rom. All the instructins taken from theunlockr.com as I couldnt get the cyanogen wiki instructions to work.
I did try the cyanogen wiki method having already rooted using gold card, but that phone also stops at the splash screen after flashing bot images. I waited several times for 15mins+ but nothing
I would really appreciate some help mainly on my first issue
Thanks in advance
A few weeks ago I was all ready and stoked to root my phone and put a different firmware on it, then I read that any phone running the build "1.89.631.1" can't root.
Is this still the case? or is there a workaround for it now? I've just been reading about all the cool **** that you can do with the custom firmwares and I want it! If I'm stuck with this dumb rogers branded version of 1.5 I'm gonna cry.
how bout u try it n let us know......here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
You can still root it, they're aren't going to remove fastboot and so the DREAIMG.nbh will still work to bring you back to RC29 so you can root it.
Sigh... You are both wrong...
Because it is SO HARD to type "1.89.631.1 G1" into Google and read the first result, here's the answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5934885&postcount=6
make a goldcard, downgrade and root.. np