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Hi.
I just hard reseted my HD2 to get rid of whatever might have come since I've been installing tons of stuff just playing around.
However, yesterday I activated WiFi N for the first time.
I notice that skyfire runs blazing fast, and everything else works great.
Opera on the other hand only works when I press one of the favorite thumbnails in the "Internet-tab". On the page that has been loaded I can do anything I wish, clicking links etc. IF I however enter another adress or do a google search I just get the error page where it says I should check my internet connection.
If I go back to skyfire and try any adress it works great, as well as any other program that uses the net. The only problem is when one is inside opera and wants to go to a new adress. It somehow thinks that you do not have any internet connection.
I tried disabling WiFi N and opera worked better then.
As soon as I turn of WiFi and go 3G-surfing opera works great.
I'm glad you resolved your problem but my diamond has no issues with the draft N tweak and Opera.
umiss said:
Hi.
I just hard reseted my HD2 to get rid of whatever might have come since I've been installing tons of stuff just playing around.
However, yesterday I activated WiFi N for the first time.
I notice that skyfire runs blazing fast, and everything else works great.
Opera on the other hand only works when I press one of the favorite thumbnails in the "Internet-tab". On the page that has been loaded I can do anything I wish, clicking links etc. IF I however enter another adress or do a google search I just get the error page where it says I should check my internet connection.
If I go back to skyfire and try any adress it works great, as well as any other program that uses the net. The only problem is when one is inside opera and wants to go to a new adress. It somehow thinks that you do not have any internet connection.
I tried disabling WiFi N and opera worked better then.
As soon as I turn of WiFi and go 3G-surfing opera works great.
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or use opera 10 beta 2 instead..
I've never seen this issue, but the stock opera does have problems working out whether you've changed from wifi to 3g and back anyway
xavierdemon said:
I'm glad you resolved your problem but my diamond has no issues with the draft N tweak and Opera.
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Well it's not really resolved since I prefer to have WiFi N activated.
I was actually wondering if anyone else had stumbled upon this and found a solution.
fards said:
or use opera 10 beta 2 instead..
I've never seen this issue, but the stock opera does have problems working out whether you've changed from wifi to 3g and back anyway
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I see, maybe I should go for opera 10 then.
Skyfire works great, flash and all, besides it's soooo much faster than opera.
The downside is that it doesn't support multitouch, it doesn't auto-allign text and the quality overall, even the text is blurry when one zooms in.
If skyfire could fix this I would go for skyfire all times above opera, even though I'm big fan of opera and always use it on my PC.
UPDATE
I switched WiFi N off and played around.
It seems that opera works more frequently now, but still randomly on the WiFi.
I mostlye get the connection error (8 out of 10 times) and other times it just works.
It seems that if I turn the WiFi on and go to opera direct, it won't work. If I start skyfire, then go to opera, it will work for a couple of minutes (sometimes).
I want to remark that Skyfire works at all times, at every single try.
What's going on here? :S
I have wifi n activated on my hd2 and have the same issue you have. There is one major difference though. In my case the error messages are pretty random - say once every 30 to 40 attempts. Currently I can live with that but off course it would help to get the issue out of the way...
Sorry couldn't be much help.
10dulkar said:
I have wifi n activated on my hd2 and have the same issue you have. There is one major difference though. In my case the error messages are pretty random - say once every 30 to 40 attempts. Currently I can live with that but off course it would help to get the issue out of the way...
Sorry couldn't be much help.
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Weird, after a freshly activated connection I can open opera ONCE and it works fine. If I close opera, and open it a second time it won't work..
umiss said:
Well it's not really resolved since I prefer to have WiFi N activated.
I was actually wondering if anyone else had stumbled upon this and found a solution.
I see, maybe I should go for opera 10 then.
Skyfire works great, flash and all, besides it's soooo much faster than opera.
The downside is that it doesn't support multitouch, it doesn't auto-allign text and the quality overall, even the text is blurry when one zooms in.
If skyfire could fix this I would go for skyfire all times above opera, even though I'm big fan of opera and always use it on my PC.
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Opera supports flash too. You just need to activate the Flash libraries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770
puremind said:
Opera supports flash too. You just need to activate the Flash libraries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770
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well, since opera 10 doesn't solve anything, and doesn't support multitouch, it doesn't appeal to me.
I'm gonna try a new ROM soon to see if it helps to solve my original problem.
Hi guys,
Firstly, I keep wondering how to use less data. I've got a 200mb plan and I've only enabled facebook (synchronisation every 6 hours) and push gmail. With my windows mobile touch diamond 2, i used to have a monthly use of about 50mb.
With Android, i have 200mb in the third week already. I dont use internet that much. I don't do OTA's, only on wifi. I even switch wifi where possible. How come the edge icon is like constantly sending and receiving?
Secondly I want to talk about the messaging in Froyo Sense 2.2. Often I get the problem that I want to write a new message but the keybord doesn't work. It does vibrate and do all the popup stuff but the letters won't appear in the message. I can wait for one minute and then it works again. I noticed this in the unofficial betabuilds too, but it hasn't been solved.
Also, when typing a textmessage, my desire sometimes feel like scrolling all the way up, so I have to scroll all the way down again manually, which sometimes takes long depending on the conversation, before I can go on with the rest of the message...
Do you experience this too?
My push notifications from thirdparty apps and live tiles stop working very regularyly which is a shame since the platform heavily depends on this.
It fails to open a channel etc.
Is microsoft fixing this bug in the os? Since now they say yeah just do a factory rest and it should be fine. But i dont wat to lose my settings.
And a restart temporarely fixes it but after an hour or so its terrible again.
or are the ms servers just over crowded already? I dont like apple but my dads iphone just kept working while mine stopped receiving the toasts
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Marvin_S said:
My push notifications from thirdparty apps and live tiles stop working very regularyly which is a shame since the platform heavily depends on this.
It fails to open a channel etc.
Is microsoft fixing this bug in the os? Since now they say yeah just do a factory rest and it should be fine. But i dont wat to lose my settings.
And a restart temporarely fixes it but after an hour or so its terrible again.
or are the ms servers just over crowded already? I dont like apple but my dads iphone just kept working while mine stopped receiving the toasts
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Toasts and tile updates come from the app developers servers, so depending on the platform they use there may be some down time. The Beezz twitter client occasionally stops working, but it's a free app and not ad supported so we should be lucky it has toasts and tile notifications at all.
sulphuricaciduk said:
Toasts and tile updates come from the app developers servers, so depending on the platform they use there may be some down time. The Beezz twitter client occasionally stops working, but it's a free app and not ad supported so we should be lucky it has toasts and tile notifications at all.
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not really since tested with the same apps at the same time. Its probably because it goes to the ms servers and fails to deliver timely. Also the unable to open a channel is not related to their servers i believe? Its related to a channel not able to open on the ms servers. Downtime should probably be equal when using the same apps on ios and wp7 sending out to each other, the messages do get delivered in app just no or really really delayed notifications. Like 20 minutes and then it just works normal for a while.. Then stops again. Other than this i really like the platform.
So i wonder does anybody else experience trouble? And which is the program you use which seems to be stable all times?
I'm experiencing the same troubles on my omnia 7.
Following programs do have some problems:
-Fim: Unable to open the channel - push notifications don't work anymore.
-TextMe: Push Notifications sometimes work - but with a delay of approx. 20 minutes
Following programs don't have any problems:
-Hotmail
-Messenger by Miyo
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This is really annoying - since a "usual" restart of the device doesn't help, i think i will have to do a hard reset (i wonder if this will help at all). But i don't want to lose all my settings, installed applications, short messages etc. So this really is a PITA.
stylopath said:
I'm experiencing the same troubles on my omnia 7.
Following programs do have some problems:
-Fim: Unable to open the channel - push notifications don't work anymore.
-TextMe: Push Notifications sometimes work - but with a delay of approx. 20 minutes
Following programs don't have any problems:
-Hotmail
-Messenger by Miyo
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This is really annoying - since a "usual" restart of the device doesn't help, i think i will have to do a hard reset (i wonder if this will help at all). But i don't want to lose all my settings, installed applications, short messages etc. So this really is a PITA.
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hardreset, would that really help? I think it wont really help. I have the same phone same apps and same problems also with tigertext send to wp7 and notes to tile.
i dont have the time and or want to hardreset. It might be a driver thing with the 3g etc. If nobody with other phones is experiencing this. I think hardreset changes nothig and will return to same behaviour. I will hardreset when the update comes or see if this will fix it.
20 Minutes is just strange conpared to instant on iphone and happens a lot
Pff
Did a hardreset. Tested the push again, ait a damn thing changed besides that I lost all my settings and stuff. Its just not working right. And probably a samsung driver or a ms server/os issue....
Does nobody else experience push notification downtime? Or delays? It's just not the way it should work. IM apps and Text replacement apps can never work properly in the background with these delays...
@Marvin_S which apps, specifically are you having trouble with? It could very well be that the developers servers have been down or slow.
I haven't had any Live Tile problems that couldn't directly be traced back to either the app dev's server or the way they've implemented notifications. Not on my Omnia 7 nor the HD2. Afaik, and I'm pretty sure I'd have heard about it - the wife's Omnia7 is doing just fine also. Have you tried flashing the new updated ROM? That seemed to fix a bunch of data issues.
Oh, as for the 20 minute thing, I've never seen this. Beezz for example notifies me (via toasts) in about a second or so.
Beezz has never worked for me. I always get an error whenever I try to enable push. The same happens for GReadie. I get a fail to open channel error. The weatherbug app also stopped working.
Right now my HTC hub live tile works. Its the only 3rd party live tile app I use.
emigrating said:
@Marvin_S which apps, specifically are you having trouble with? It could very well be that the developers servers have been down or slow.
I haven't had any Live Tile problems that couldn't directly be traced back to either the app dev's server or the way they've implemented notifications. Not on my Omnia 7 nor the HD2. Afaik, and I'm pretty sure I'd have heard about it - the wife's Omnia7 is doing just fine also. Have you tried flashing the new updated ROM? That seemed to fix a bunch of data issues.
Oh, as for the 20 minute thing, I've never seen this. Beezz for example notifies me (via toasts) in about a second or so.
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Well I seem to be running the latest version pre-installed by samsung... i asked in the omnia7 forum what kind of rom I was running.
Well the thing is, it builds up all the notifications and than releases them all after each other 20 minutes later.
Basically these apps: Textme and tigertext (which I tried later to see if it could replace textme, very kind and responsive developers btw)
Also send to wp7, which often than comes up with the failed to open channel stuff.
If this rom should rely fix it, then I will just reflash it eve though its exactly the same rom... I think it has something to do with losing 3g+ signal, or wifi drops.
I'm testing the reliablility heavily since I such problems by sending constant test messages to myself (or to the echo server) the messages are received fine, but the toast is so unreliable.
Can you maybe type the versions of your firmware so I can compare it with mine? Because its for sure not an app problem since the messages all come later from diffrent apps. My test flow is like this: Open app, send message, close, send message with the second app, close and than wait. If it takes to long, open app again, resend. Sometimes it works quite right for a while, than teribly bad.
And note that I'm from a crowded area with lots of cellphone towers and have also good wifi coverage in the places I tested it. Same apps on the iphone work without problems, I compared side by side as well.
So it might just be my omnia, thats why I would like to hear which versions you are running. Since hardreset did not change a thing, I'm starting to believe its or a driver problem or ms-servers are overcrowded. I would like to try beez and see if its diffrent, however I dont havee twitter and i guess its required.
I don't think the newer ROM from Samsung fixes anything, because i installed it. Version 2424.10.11.1
but perhaps the region affects this problem, e.g. North-American Azure-Servers work fine while European Servers are struggling.
I personally have massive problems with push notifications since monday or so, and it's really starting to pi** me off!
Hard resetting idny going to fix anything permenitly because it is not the phone it is the apps just gotta wait for and update to fix
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Weird. I'm using Beezz, SendToWP7, uController, eBay, Weatherbug and probably a few others using toast and/or live tile notification. Beezz server seems to go down every so often, but both uController and SendToWP7 notifies me real quick.
I'm running the latest Omnia 7 ROM as people said it was slightly faster and had a better data connection - that said, I was entirely happy with the phone even before updating.
I did a hard reset/reinstall of my apps and such, I'm still having intermittent push problems with some apps, and with others the push won't work at all. I will say that it seems to be the same apps having the same problems, and the ones that always have worked (weather bug) still work.
I'm thinking (hoping, praying!) this is a problem simply because of the infancy of the OS...I remember the first iphone, which I bought on day one, had all sorts of problems and "gaps" in technology
emigrating said:
Weird. I'm using Beezz, SendToWP7, uController, eBay, Weatherbug and probably a few others using toast and/or live tile notification. Beezz server seems to go down every so often, but both uController and SendToWP7 notifies me real quick.
I'm running the latest Omnia 7 ROM as people said it was slightly faster and had a better data connection - that said, I was entirely happy with the phone even before updating.
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oKe im running the latest rom since the beginning. Created fake twitter account sended a ton of messages. Crap as hell, very unreliable and today i was not able to load fb app data on 3g full bars. So it can be a phone problem on drivers with data over 3g, while 3g+ works fine. Probably euopean servers are overloaded than. Does changing my location from USA based (im dutch) To germany change the servers as well? Bc germany is much closer thus more reliable?
jmerrey said:
I did a hard reset/reinstall of my apps and such, I'm still having intermittent push problems with some apps, and with others the push won't work at all. I will say that it seems to be the same apps having the same problems, and the ones that always have worked (weather bug) still work.
I'm thinking (hoping, praying!) this is a problem simply because of the infancy of the OS...I remember the first iphone, which I bought on day one, had all sorts of problems and "gaps" in technology
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Its the apps not the phone the apps need to be updated inorder to work on the os not the other way around
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v hubris v said:
Its the apps not the phone the apps need to be updated inorder to work on the os not the other way around
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA App
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this is not the case, read my post. Has nothing to do with the apps since ALL apps behave like this, it has nothing to do with the apps itself but probably slow ms servers. So no this is really an os or server or device firmware problem and not an app. Since all notifications come at the same time all after eachother highly delayed.
Apps have own servers they Sony go threw ms os is not mad for apparently apparently are made for os if apparently no work on os they need update
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v hubris v said:
Apps have own servers they Sony go threw ms os is not mad for apparently apparently are made for os if apparently no work on os they need update
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA App
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its not the problem of the apps! Since all apps fail at the same time to update. This is no coincidence, only a restart or waiting will solve this and than all notifications not yet delivered by multiple apps come at once! Now tell me how this is an app poblem,its the phone who is not able to receive the push even on wifi. The apps do deliver, but there is a huge delay even with beez which i checked with fake twiter account.
Every once in a while the phone just fails to receive any data based push notifications! All of them. While i do have wifi and or 3g. On 3g+ it seems to be more stable.
This could be europe related or omnia related. And narrowing this down will help dtermine the issue, since the apps are not the problem. These work fine for the others...
Marvin_S said:
This could be europe related or omnia related. And narrowing this down will help dtermine the issue, since the apps are not the problem. These work fine for the others...
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It is neither Europe or Omnia related as I'm using the 16GB Omnia7 in Europe (slightly north of you) at the moment without fail.
If it really is all apps, I would suggest there is a problem with your data connection - are you able to browse the web properly and without pages having to reload or taking a long time to open? If not, make sure you are indeed within range of, either, 3G/HSDPA or WiFi - if you are, and it works fine on another phone/laptop I would say you have a hardware fault and need to take the device back for a replacement.
Several things to be aware of with live tiles and notifications.
I am a developer of a few apps and offer push notification and live tile updates i have done alot of testing and know the ins and outs of this..
1st there is a such thing of the phone not being able to "open a notification channel" and Hard Reset is the only way to correct this.
2nd it is possable that the app developer side to also be the problem not sending because of their service going down server problems etc.
3rd when your batt. get to be less than 1/4 percent the notification service shuts down on the phone and you will not recieve updates. once the batt is above the 1/4 percent the service will then start working again.
4th sometimes the push service is delayed due to MS.
Hope this helps to better understand.
My Apps
World Weather (Live Tile)
TV Show Alert (uses Push Notification)
To Doos (Comming soon Push, Live Tile)
Dear devs,
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/01/skype-for-android-updated-with-video-calling-support-video/
After reading that article, I'd like to formally request someone to find a way to make this work on the Charge! Finally, we can Skype someone on a computer (PC/Mac) or on any Android or iPhone! Amazing. It's also about time.
And this edited Skype does not work on the Charge: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Skyp...alls-working-on-non-supported-devices_id20025
Apparently it works on the charge but you have to be on a gingerbread rom.
Interesting, would be nice to finally have a use for this front-facing camera(there are other apps but no one uses them, all the people I know use Skype).
Also, sorry for derailing but I'm going to assume you use Skype on your Charge, do you know how to stop it from auto-starting? I usually just open it, check who's online, send my messages, etc and task kill it but sometimes I'll hear the sound of it starting up (whether I'm using the phone or not). It just keeps my phone awake and kills battery, do you know how to stop this..?
blarrick said:
Interesting, would be nice to finally have a use for this front-facing camera(there are other apps but no one uses them, all the people I know use Skype).
Also, sorry for derailing but I'm going to assume you use Skype on your Charge, do you know how to stop it from auto-starting? I usually just open it, check who's online, send my messages, etc and task kill it but sometimes I'll hear the sound of it starting up (whether I'm using the phone or not). It just keeps my phone awake and kills battery, do you know how to stop this..?
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Well on Windows it has the option of choosing not to startup with windows. I haven't checked it on Android.
Heh thanks anyway. So I'm assuming Skype hasn't let out any official word on the Charge(or any other phone) video call release date, I didn't hear anything about this initial update at all so I'm guessing it's just going to be surprises from here on out.
blarrick said:
Interesting, would be nice to finally have a use for this front-facing camera(there are other apps but no one uses them, all the people I know use Skype).
Also, sorry for derailing but I'm going to assume you use Skype on your Charge, do you know how to stop it from auto-starting? I usually just open it, check who's online, send my messages, etc and task kill it but sometimes I'll hear the sound of it starting up (whether I'm using the phone or not). It just keeps my phone awake and kills battery, do you know how to stop this..?
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You have to go to the My Info tab and then press the menu button to access settings. In there, you can find a box to uncheck for starting automatically.
Hey fellow wp7 lovers.
Lately ive been using a lot of messaging on whatsapp. I can chat fine on 3G but whenever i switched over to wifi... the message either gets stuck on delivering (1 line) ... or simply just shows the clock (not delivered)
Solution was always to switch 3G back on or turn on/off the wifi...
Its becoming quite tedious really...
Is anyone else experiencing this issue?? Or anyone know of a better solution?
(dont really want to use my 3G lately as its closely approaching my limit)
Got exactly the same issue. Don't know where i'm talking about really, but recently the thought hit me that maybe it is because when you come out of stand-by mode and send a message seconds later, your phone wants to send it over WI-FI, which might not be possible yet since it's still trying to connect, which then maybe results in a message not able to be sent and ends up being stuck on your phone, even though your phone connects to WI-FI succesfully after a while.
I usually turn off 3g, open the app, en most of the times it helps, which doesn't make sense at all. I am not sure, anyway. Haven't paid too much attention to it. Sometimes I just know its the WhatssAppserver, but I can't tell every time, and that makes it difficult to research the exact cause.
I really hope whatsapp releases an update and irons out its issues. Whatsapp on WP7 sucks.
It isn't that bad! It works, and thats more then we had. However, I don't understand why they can't manage to get simple things right...
hm i wonder if this is design flaw.. or purely just to save battery...
Coz on the android whatsapp, the internet is always connected even when on locked screen but on wp7 its not! The only solution is to use 3G!
This makes whatsapp useless if you only have wifi available... >< so much for instant messaging
Later on i found out ur wifi STAYS connected (even when in lock screen) when you plug it in to charge.... so thats the only workaround
so can we petition microsoft to add wifi on all the time in the next update??
OR does anyone know of an app that always require wifi connection?
(as described in this thread - http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-7-os-discussion/179861.htm)
Hm another quick note.....
how come whatsapp on ANDROID is so frickin fast!!!!! On iphone it takes about 5s to load into it. WP7 about 7s....and ANDROID is INSTANT!!!!
Lol is WP7 and APPLE so closed off that we cannot integrate whatsapp more into the OS? bah