I received my G1 yesterday. But I wanna know if I can root it. And how.
n8gk said:
I received my G1 yesterday. But I wanna know if I can root it. And how.
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Try to flash it with the US RC29 or the UK firmware. But I don't think this will work as the SPL will block it.
AFAIK there's no way to get root at the non US/UK/Dev G1 at this time.
Michael
try update using rc30 update.zip file. I think you will install SPL for US region and you can flash back to RC29
Does it work? Because i wanted to buy the German G1 but if I can't root it, I will buy the UK Version.
@n8gk
work root with the US SPL ??
have you try this ??
If you flash a US or UK firmware on a german G1,....
will the Keyboard work correct ? the Layout for Z and Y are different.
Where can I get the RC30 update.zip file
Ther german has also a build 123099.
I didn't try to update, because I don't wanna loose the ability to go back to the original.
Waiting that a original one is out first. (because of language and keyboard)
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I tried to downgrade with rc29 firmware, but it isnt possible...
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And then stuck in the bootloader...
I also got my G1 last week and it also has the 123099 Build.(I live in Austria) If there is any way how i can help to root this build (upload it?), let me know.
If i flash an UK or US firmware on my phone (suppose some genius finds a way how to do it) wouldn't it render the "Disable Data-Roaming" function useless, when i travel to one of these countries? And even deactivate the data connection in my home country?
In Austria tmo offers a roaming block on their side so i do not have to use this function on the phone, but i am just curious...
Maybe one of the more experienced users in here could tell us about the chances of rooting such a device.
Are there any or did Google / T-Mobile finally fix the backdoor completely?
Greetings,
Becksman
In device info the build description is:
kila_eu-user 1.1 TMI-RC4 123099
ota-rel-keys,release-keys
And build id:
TMI-RC4
The backdoor has been fixed for some time now... But as long as you were able to revert to an older image you can re-root your device, but we are not able to do this because we would need to use an image with another CID and that is not allowed with the original SPL. But the only way to change SPL is when you have your device rooted...
Correct me if im wrong plz..
So that means bad news for the European G1 owners?
seems so. and because the developers here already got a us-hacked version, they not seem to be interested in hacking this 1.1 firmware the one or other way.
are the european developers to stupid/busy to do it? or are they so clever to get a us one?
in the european firmware 1.1-version the manufacturer has alredy fixed the lame telnetd-root bug and the bootloader. and this is, on what the us-g1-hacks are based on.
i have the hope that some day a local root exploit will apear, which exploits the kernel or another vital component of the g1 to get root without telnetd.
maybe such a kernel exploit will be discovered in the standard linux kernel which can be portet to android; or some great reversing/hacking-debugging-genious-mastermind finds an android exploit all by himself.
android is so new, there MUST be bugs to exploit locally.
Iam a highlevlel-programmer, iam not able to find such local root vulnerabillities.
way to open EU G1
one guy from Czech republic did it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3361823#post3361823
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I am on Stock RC30 Firmware got it pushed to my mobiler
Can we Update UK Firmware with Root Access Facility to us.
as UK Firmware have higher Version Series as TC5-RCxx
We may get into that Firmware to we can have root access back then load Moded RC30 or Just Stay with Buggy Root Access firmwate
I'm not sure you'd want the UK firmware I've actually just (well, yesterday) pushed the US firmware onto my UK handset. It's certainly worth a try as a potential downgrader, but be aware that our 3g is slightly different to the US setup that t-mobile use.
I the UK firmware is a full update rather than just a patch like RC30, then shouldn't we be able to us it to downgrade then follow the modified update methoe rc29 to rc30 to restore root to those who already did the official update to rc30?
I was about to ask about the UK rom and how it compares to the US version.....
The version numbers are very far appart and we have had no OTA's yet.
Imp
Hey,
I just rooted my RC8 UK G1 using the guide here and then I came here and saw that JF1.43 is out, where the guide I was using used JF1.41.
Should I upgrade? What are the benefits and how do I upgrade?
Also, if a new OTA update comes out can I just update and keep root? If not, can I just update without doing anything special and loose root?
Thank you
JFv1.42 and 1.43 are US only so I believe you need to reflash to use, though I'm not sure. The number structure of US numbers is different (it has dashes in it like xxx-xxxx-xxxx) and they have some extra programs like MyFaves by the sound of it. For now if you want to stick with UK releases, you have the most recent. I contacted TMo about it and all they had to say was that they didn't know when our RC33 equivalent would be out.
For us Magic users who have rooted our HTC Magics and flashed a new rom on it, would it be mandatory for us to update to their rom?
j.lai said:
For us Magic users who have rooted our HTC Magics and flashed a new rom on it, would it be mandatory for us to update to their rom?
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I was wondering that too. They are saying their are disabling 3G Data on our phones till the upgrade is performed.
I'm afraid it has a perfected SPL.
no need for rooted users to upgrade... i believe the upgrade is just to fix the gps 911 issue. us rooted users dont experience that
Edit: Custom rom users
it's the sense ui upgrade as well.. and apparently one month of free data fees
Hmm according to the screenshot on the HTC website is shows Build number 3.05.631.7 which looks to be newest one I can find.
we need someone to verify what SPL is included with this update. I won't be updating my phone. I don't want to loose root
Yeah that's all fine and nice that we aren't affected with custom ROMs but did you guys not read the fine print?
Customers who have not downloaded this software update could have problems accessing 911. As a result, we are taking the precautionary measure of temporarily disabling internet access for Dream and Magic users on Sunday January 24 at 6:00AM (EST). Voice and text messaging will not be impacted. By disabling internet access, we can ensure that 911 calls are completed for all our Dream and Magic customers. Once a customer completes the software update, his/her internet access will be re-enabled within 24 hours.
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Yeah that's all fine and nice that we aren't affected with custom ROMs but did you guys not read the fine print?
Customers who have not downloaded this software update could have problems accessing 911. As a result, we are taking the precautionary measure of temporarily disabling internet access for Dream and Magic users on Sunday January 24 at 6:00AM (EST). Voice and text messaging will not be impacted. By disabling internet access, we can ensure that 911 calls are completed for all our Dream and Magic customers. Once a customer completes the software update, his/her internet access will be re-enabled within 24 hours.
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hmm very strange so basically they are forcing everyone to update ...interesting...
I guess we'll have to see HOW they can know that we haven't updated.
Here's a link to the "about" for this version btw: http://www.htc.com/us/img/ca/HTC Magic (Rogers)/image001.png
does anyone know if rogers is able to check your build?
becuase in the instruction manual below step 4.
"Refer to the image and note the build number version listed. if you have the same build number version there is no need to update this software."
I looked inside the update file's rom.zip files and it appears to have a 1.76.0010
SPL
Well it's about time we got the Sense UI update... but I don't like the idea of being forced to update and getting perfected spl. I'll hold off on it until I get my internet disconnected.
The RUU has radio version 6.35.10.18, build 3.05.631.7... hmm
can anyone host the RUU I can sent it.
^Uploading now.
edit: beaten to it.
hboot_7200A_1.76.0010_100114.nb0
Radio_Signed_Sapphire_63.18.55.06K_6.35.10.18.img
more info soonish
i uploaded to my work's temp data storage web server
Code:
URL no longer available
I can't add url's apparently so just copy and paste.
Just got an SMS tell me to update... I don't want a perfect SPL.
DaMonk said:
I looked inside the update file's rom.zip files and it appears to have a 1.76.0010
SPL
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I'm willing to bet that's a perfected SPL...
Hopefully i won't get one as I already have a 1.6 rom loaded.
Rogers must have a way to verify connected phones rom versions.
fatcow167 said:
does anyone know if rogers is able to check your build?
becuase in the instruction manual below step 4.
"Refer to the image and note the build number version listed. if you have the same build number version there is no need to update this software."
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I just phoned in and asked about the update. The fella didn't seem TOO savvy about it at all - he didn't know what a custom rom was.
He did, however, say that rogers is able to check what version you have through your "IP when you connect", and he wasn't 100% sure about what would happen to custom roms.
Frankly I'd take it with a grain of salt.
Hi all.
As I said in my previous posts I'm waiting for a operator branded HTC Desire S.
I've read just now that the operator realeased an update few days ago (on 17th of february) and I'd like to know if there is a way to save the update file for future use (warranty purpose mainly).
Infact there is no file for the original brand firmware so if I debrand my phone I'll lose the warranty!
In this case if I can save the update file I can go back to my operator firmware solving the problem!
Thank you in advance!
mylostnick said:
Hi all.
As I said in my previous posts I'm waiting for a operator branded HTC Desire S.
I've read just now that the operator realeased an update few days ago (on 17th of february) and I'd like to know if there is a way to save the update file for future use (warranty purpose mainly).
Infact there is no file for the original brand firmware so if I debrand my phone I'll lose the warranty!
In this case if I can save the update file I can go back to my operator firmware solving the problem!
Thank you in advance!
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I think what you'd want in this case is probably a RUU. What it does is basically return your phone completely to stock, removing anything you might have done to it. You can find a list of them here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
I would recommend creating a goldcard to reduce the chance of any error and to help it go smoothly if you ever decide to do it.
Hi dan.
I've read that very useful thread but my operator firmware is not listed there.
So I'd loke to know if there is a way to get the image file from the OTA update (I think it's saved somewhere... but I don't know where!)
Can I ask what network branding your phone has? I'm not entirely sure how to download an OTA update for a stock rom so not entirely sure how to get the ROM from it. Maybe someone can shed some light here. I'm not entirely good with RUUs.
On a side note, if you're going to install custom ROMs I would recommend not updating just to make it easier to install custom ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Desire Saga using xda premium
I'm waiting for a Desire S branded from TIM Italy.
As I said, right now there is no way to find the original branded firmware but now that there is this update maybe it can be catched!!!
I recently had my Orange Galaxy S2 i9100P unlocked by the local phone shop.
The unlocking worked fine, but I have now noticed that it has been rooted too.
It has a superuser app installed, which he said he didn't realise it had installed.
Not sure that I want it to be rooted when I sell it as it might put off potential buyers.
So I called the shop and asked if it has to be rooted to unlock it and he said that it does.
He said that the other way to unlocked it is to use a code but that system is currently down (the website that gives out codes) and it would cost £26 instead of the £10 that I paid to have it unlocked using root. I asked him if I could unroot it by flashing with the standard Orange firmware (using Keis) and he said yes I could and that would unroot it. When asked that if this would then lock it again he said that no it shouldn't, but he didn't seem too sure about what he was saying.
So some specific questions:-
1) Did he have to root it to unlock it?
2) Did it have to be left in root once unlocked?
3) Can I unroot it and return to standard firmware (using Keis) and it still remain unlocked?
4) If the answer to 3) is no, then can I delete / uninstall the superuser app?
5) When I run the superuser app, there is a temp unroot option. What does that do? Can I use that to unroot it?
MrModbus said:
1) Did he have to root it to unlock it?
2) Did it have to be left in root once unlocked?
3) Can I unroot it and return to standard firmware (using Keis) and it still remain unlocked?
4) If the answer to 3) is no, then can I delete / uninstall the superuser app?
5) When I run the superuser app, there is a temp unroot option. What does that do? Can I use that to unroot it?
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1. Yes root was required to unlock from the carrier. Or else you had to pay full price to get the unlock.
2. Not exactly! If he made a permanent change then no need, But if he's using something dependent to unlock it then it needs to be rooted.
3. Not sure, cause if the stock Orange firmware finds the phone as locked it might re-lock it again. So there's a risk. If you can find a fresh carrier free firmware for your model why not flash that?
4. I used SuperSU there's an unroot button there but nothing that says 'Temporary'. But if the root binaries are once flashed I'm not sure that gets rid of it.
Just trying to be helpful.
Tiash420 said:
1. Yes root was required to unlock from the carrier. Or else you had to pay full price to get the unlock.
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Ah OK.
Tiash420 said:
2. Not exactly! If he made a permanent change then no need, But if he's using something dependent to unlock it then it needs to be rooted.
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How do you mean? Are you saying that there is another appliocation that is running that is performing the unlock and that needs root to do its stuff?
Tiash420 said:
3. Not sure, cause if the stock Orange firmware finds the phone as locked it might re-lock it again. So there's a risk. If you can find a fresh carrier free firmware for your model why not flash that?
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That is an option. But Last time I looked (a few years back) I couldn't find any i9100P specific unbranded firmware. There was i9100 firmware, but that didn't support the i9100P NFC chip.
Tiash420 said:
4. I used SuperSU there's an unroot button there but nothing that says 'Temporary'. But if the root binaries are once flashed I'm not sure that gets rid of it.
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My app is just called "superuser" and is at v3.1.3. I suppse that I could try the temp unroot and see what happens.
Yes, I'm saying there might be some app keeping the unlock alive. Cause that's how I unlocked my iPhone 4, quite a lot of times. :3
And you should search again for unofficial rom.
And also try the temporary unroot button.
Rightho, I have now moved over to the S5 and I would like to get my S2 ready for sale.
Someone mentioned earlier that Keis might not recognise the device. Well you are correct it doesn't and will not let my flash. I does not recognise it as a Samsung device.
So I would like some generic I9100P firmware that supports NFC.
I would also like to unroot the device.
Current firmware is V4.1.2
Baseband version is I9100PBVLS2
Kernel is 3.0.31 - 1246097
[email protected] - 109 #3
SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 4 15:49:20 KST 2013
Build number is JZO54K.I9100PXXLSS
I do not get a yellow warning triangle so I assume that it is a secure kernel.
So can anyone help me to:-
1) Unroot the device.
2) Get it so that Keis will talk to it again.
3) Keep it unlocked
4) Get a secure kernel if mine is insecure.
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Rightho, I have now moved over to the S5 and I would like to get my S2 ready for sale.
Someone mentioned earlier that Keis might not recognise the device. Well you are correct it doesn't and will not let my flash. I does not recognise it as a Samsung device.
So I would like some generic I9100P firmware that supports NFC.
I would also like to unroot the device.
Current firmware is V4.1.2
Baseband version is I9100PBVLS2
Kernel is 3.0.31 - 1246097
[email protected] - 109 #3
SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 4 15:49:20 KST 2013
Build number is JZO54K.I9100PXXLSS
I do not get a yellow warning triangle so I assume that it is a secure kernel.
So can anyone help me to:-
1) Unroot the device.
2) Get it so that Keis will talk to it again.
3) Keep it unlocked
4) Get a secure kernel if mine is insecure.
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Flash a custom recovery through Odin and then backup your current Rom. And then find flashable-zip official firmwares and then flash and see results. If anything goes wrong revert back to the old firmware.
The solution seems to be to download and install firmware XXLSU Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean.
This will install a generic unlocked stock ROM and generic firmware, which is just what I need.
See here.
w w w.ibtimes.co.uk/galaxys2-i9100p-xxlsu-android412-jellybean-update-install-501998
However, I am not able to find the update ROM / Firmware files as all the links in all the websites that I have found are all dead.
I have founf some working links but this is for Spanish / French versions. Will these be OK?
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The solution seems to be to download and install firmware XXLSU Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean.
This will install a generic unlocked stock ROM and generic firmware, which is just what I need.
See here.
w w w.ibtimes.co.uk/galaxys2-i9100p-xxlsu-android412-jellybean-update-install-501998
However, I am not able to find the update ROM / Firmware files as all the links in all the websites that I have found are all dead.
I have founf some working links but this is for Spanish / French versions. Will these be OK?
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Keep in mind to use the firmware with the right "MODEM" version. SamMobile offers the firmware version(s) you are looking for. BUT don't risk flashing another firmware, if its much more easy. Install "SuperSU" from the play store. Open it an switch ROOT to "SuperSU", you will be prompted to uninstall the current superuser (root). Accept it. Reboot your phone. Open SuperSU and perform "Complete Unroot". Thats it
Ok that will unroot it but stay with orange firmware and be re-locked to orange?
I was wanting a generic ROM and firmware that supports NFC.
SamMobile has the I9100PXXLSU firmware which I believe I need. However, it has 2 versions:-
Date Country/Carrier Version PDA CSC MODEM
2013 August France 4.1.2 I9100PXXLSU I9100PXEFLS3 I9100PXXLS8
2013 August Spain (Vodafone) 4.1.2 I9100PXXLSU I9100PATLLS6 I9100PBULS3
Should I be concerned about the carrier / country?
You say get the correct MODEM version but how do I know what the correct one is?
My current details are:-
PDA: I9100PXXLSS
PHONE: I9100PBVLS2
CSC: I9100PPORALS6
Please can someone just tell me where I can get a generic ROM / firmware and tell me which one I should be using.
It all seems to be riddles and cryptic clues.
I am confident of downloading the ROM / firmware using ODIN, but I just want to know what to download.
MrModbus said:
Ok that will unroot it but stay with orange firmware and be re-locked to orange?
I was wanting a generic ROM and firmware that supports NFC.
SamMobile has the I9100PXXLSU firmware which I believe I need. However, it has 2 versions:-
Date Country/Carrier Version PDA CSC MODEM
2013 August France 4.1.2 I9100PXXLSU I9100PXEFLS3 I9100PXXLS8
2013 August Spain (Vodafone) 4.1.2 I9100PXXLSU I9100PATLLS6 I9100PBULS3
Should I be concerned about the carrier / country?
You say get the correct MODEM version but how do I know what the correct one is?
Please can someone just tell me where I can get a generic ROM / firmware and tell me which one I should be using.
It all seems to be riddles and cryptic clues.
I am confident of downloading the ROM / firmware using ODIN, but I just want to know what to download.
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Vodafone firmware is Vodafone branded, so i won't use it as its probably highly customized by vodafone. The France version should not have a branding. You can check your modem version in Android: "Settings-->about Phone". If you get you right, you want to sell a branded phone as unbranded and potentially next owner may not know. sounds not very good
I was just trying to get rid of all the ornage bloatware. If someone wants to use a different network operator, they might not want all the orange stuff on there. I was certainly not wanting to trick anyone. I suppose I could just unroot it and leave it as it is (it is obviously an orange branded phone as it has orange logos on it). Or I could just download the standard orange ROM / Firmware and return it to stock. My worry is that this will lock it again. I keep asking this question but no one seems to give me a straight answer if it will or not. Maybe it is an unknown. As I am a newby I have no idea.
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I was just trying to get rid of all the ornage bloatware. If someone wants to use a different network operator, they might not want all the orange stuff on there. I was certainly not wanting to trick anyone. I suppose I could just unroot it and leave it as it is (it is obviously an orange branded phone as it has orange logos on it). Or I could just download the standard orange ROM / Firmware and return it to stock. My worry is that this will lock it again. I keep asking this question but no one seems to give me a straight answer if it will or not. Maybe it is an unknown. As I am a newby I have no idea.
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I suppose its hard to say, because no one but the shop owner exactly knows what method was used to unlock the phone. Thats the reason why there is no guarantee that the unlock survives a firmware flash. If you just want to get rid of unwanted apps, you can use "Titanium Backup" to uninstall whatever you want. I would never use a non rooted phone again, so may be the new owner is happy that its already rooted
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Keep in mind to use the firmware with the right "MODEM" version. SamMobile offers the firmware version(s) you are looking for. BUT don't risk flashing another firmware, if its much more easy. Install "SuperSU" from the play store. Open it an switch ROOT to "SuperSU", you will be prompted to uninstall the current superuser (root). Accept it. Reboot your phone. Open SuperSU and perform "Complete Unroot". Thats it
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Yeah this works, if you really wanna get rid off the orange BS. Just uninstall all the BS with Titanium Backup and then simply unroot. :3 And the device fresh and unlocked and not rooted without the BS. :3 And everybody's happy, right?