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HTC Prophet forum

When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.

I will fully support the opening of this section too.

kta said:
When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.
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Hee kta
So you bought the Prophet (Dopod 818 pro from expansys?). I'm still waiting to fork out the 500,00+ euro's.
Still happy with my Magician.
Is the Bluetooth headset caller id working on the Prophet? (as it was on my P800 2 years ago)
Still little BUGS.... I read device has to be on...
(I keep the device in my pocket off, I want to here who is calling me before I pick up the phone, P800 could do that 2 years ago...)
That would be a BIG + for me to buy the Prophet.
On the other hand I'm missing GPS and 3G. (DECT would be nice 2)
Still hoping a bit for wm 2005 on my Magician or the Bluetooth caller id
to be hacked out of the wm 2005. Although everyone here say’s it’s a hardware problem.
On topic: YES there should be a HTC Prophet forum. I like to read people’s experiences with the device.

there is a special forum for website related matters. don't forget to post there as well.

kta said:
When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.
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Is someone going to answer this?

HTC Prophet Forum
PLEASE....
We want HTC Prophet Forum !!!

YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May we have our VERY OWN Forum here??????
Thanks!!!!
voyager

I read on Mobile-review:
HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance
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So I think that's the reason ad/mod do not want to open a new box for HTC Prophet.

xhuy said:
I read on Mobile-review:
HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance
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So I think that's the reason ad/mod do not want to open a new box for HTC Prophet.
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No no no....The Prophet is NOT equal to the Magician in appearance! The Charmer is. :roll:
The prophet is a bit like in appearance but certainly not equal. :wink:

agree ..
prophet at least had wifi (802.11g)
charmer is really like a copy of magician ...

Please read the review:
Review of HTC Prophet by the example of GSM communicator Qtek S200
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance.
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Re Prophet Forum
Hey all
After a month of enjoyment of my wizard, have just managed to sell it on E-Bay and ordered my Prophet (I-Mate Jamin) of Expansys, as did not find the Keyboard quite as usefull as I thought still could not match CalTech Quick writing as an input system, however nice machine if you like keyboards, just wanted a smaller machine with WiFi and had my doughts about the long term durability of the keyboard & stylus, so come lets get that Prophet Forum going its on releas with expansys on Friday and it is a HTC item unlike the XDA atom, and I think it is going to be very popular amoungst the none keyboarders,
Regards Ash'e

Yes looks the best of the new small wm5 devices. I just hope O2 have it in the UK when my contract is up for renewal. I did email them when I saw O2 Germany was releasing it and, of course, got the pointless reply
> Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
>
> I am sorry but we do not have the expected release date for the
> O2 XDA Neo or HTC Prophet.
> Please call our Sales team on 08702 257 879 who will help you further.
> They are available Monday to Friday from 08:30am to 09:00pm and
> Saturday and Sunday from 10:00am to 06:00pm. Calls are charged at
> national rate.

we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum here
Hong Kong-based, but it's all in English... feel free to join us!

Kai920 said:
we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum
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The prophet and the atom are two different devices.

xhuy said:
Please read the review:
Review of HTC Prophet by the example of GSM communicator Qtek S200
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance.
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OK, I've read the review. I still stand by what I said. Also, so Mobile Review it would seem:
The appearance has not changed much from the HTC Magician's time, it just got rounder. Side edges are not splay as earlier, but slightly project. The body is made of a less smooth, almost dull black material (the front part is of metal, and the back and sides are made of plastic).
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It is very similar - but not identical (equal in appearance)
The Charmer is identical.
:wink:

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Kai920 said:
we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum
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The prophet and the atom are two different devices.
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I was merely stating that the forums are active with HTC Prophet & O2 Atom posts.

i created a group of forums for prophet stuff.
willem

Shouldnt this now be moved to that forum ;-)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewforum.php?f=43

Official Htc Wm6 -- Contact Your Operator

Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!

TaurusBullba said:
Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????

papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.

TaurusBullba said:
Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?

papamopps said:
I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?

TaurusBullba said:
That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.

TaurusBullba said:
Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!

O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!

Dr Puttingham said:
That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.

papamopps said:
Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????

Dr Puttingham said:
Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!

hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)

duke_stix said:
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.

TaurusBullba said:
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.

papamopps said:
I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.

An idea for kitchen

I have a thougth:
Is it podsible to make a kitchen where we can drag & drop the cab files and then then kitchen makes the oem packages by itself so it's whole is autonated.
it's just an idea. Maybe somebody else had thought of that but i wanted to share this thougt with you all.

ivanwinkel said:
I have a thougth:
Is it podsible to make a kitchen where we can drag & drop the cab files and then then kitchen makes the oem packages by itself so it's whole is autonated.
it's just an idea. Maybe somebody else had thought of that but i wanted to share this thougt with you all.
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Everything is possible. The only issue is that each cab is made diffrently. What you are asking would take at least 6 months developement. And none of us do this as a permanent job, so it might take a year. Just wait. There are more ROM's and kitchens being released with more and more.

I think it's near impossible.
But be pacient, in a couple of days, everyone here will know how to dump, make packages, and rebuild using them Trust me
And of course , much more than that .

Actually, the idea of a fully automated kitchen doesn't seem so far fetched.
Back in the day when the HTC Wallabee was king, there were a number of kitchen web sites. These web sites would allow you to select your base ROM and from a wide selection of the freeware and commercial (reg key required) packages. During the process, it would keep track of total ROM size vs available ROM, so you could max out the ROM. When done, you hit build and then download your custom built ROM.
It was very cool. I must have flashed my Wallabee a dozen times or so before the screen got accidentally crushed, and I moved on to a different device.
-Jeff

Web-Based ROM Kitchen???
Now if only one of the more advanced cookers could do for the Wizard what LumpiStefans did for the Wallaby:
http://www.romkitchen.de/

that really looks beautifull.

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Now if only one of the more advanced cookers could do for the Wizard what LumpiStefans did for the Wallaby:
http://www.romkitchen.de/
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whao thats nice..but i think most Wizard users are enither going to hermes -cingular and the Wing for Tmobile..I know I'll be leaving the wizard section after i get my wing..simply because its an exchange i get a new wing they take my Wizard.

ANTC said:
whao thats nice..but i think most Wizard users are enither going to hermes -cingular and the Wing for Tmobile..I know I'll be leaving the wizard section after i get my wing..simply because its an exchange i get a new wing they take my Wizard.
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how you puling that? do you know someone who works for T-mobile?

k2e15 said:
how you puling that? do you know someone who works for T-mobile?
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Nah one day I called up for my mothers MDA because of its malfunctioning with the battery, and my vol slider broke so the guy goes ill swap both of your mdas for a new Dash with wm6..I tell the guy I'd like a PPC he said if your phone doesnt work again in a few weeks we'll offer u a wing when released because its 7th time swaping my MDA since Jan wehn i got it.

ANTC said:
i think most Wizard users are enither going to hermes -cingular and the Wing for Tmobile..I know I'll be leaving the wizard section after i get my wing..simply because its an exchange i get a new wing they take my Wizard.
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Perhaps I might do the same thing too, but the Wallaby guys provided a really good example of the right way to deploy a kitchen whether it be for Wizard, Wing, Hermes, or whatever.
In fact, silly old me, when the first WM6 post went up about a kitchen, I was expecting to see a link to ROM fabrication web site rather than a toolset with many manual configuration options and seemingly much higher risk for the end user.
-J

is there any help with the Ultimate 9502

Dear friends
we really need to add a new section for the new Ultimate 9502 because the WM that the imate put is very bad (to me) this is plus the useless additions they put.
really I miss the cooked roms I used to use on my K-jam and really need to have a cooked one on the ultimate 9502
will I wait so long?
thanx

i have WM6.1 on htc tytn, wm6.1 is FAST!!
i wish some1 cook a wm6.1 for imate 9502!

This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan.
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Until that changes only HTC devices on this forum.. I-mate now has its devices manufactured by a different firm.. i believe its tech faith wireless.

thanx
but is there any forum 4 the cooked wm 4 the ultimate 9502 ??

I think we should open a forum only when XDA starts to carry it. We are XDA-developers, not HTC-developers.

I don't get why XDA-Devs is kept exclusively HTC. I mean, back in the day, the name made sense because XDA's were the primary (or only?) PPC phones commercially available.
I guess HTC is still the most popular, and nobody wants XDA-Devs to become saturated with a section for every new device, but surely if other devices get popular it'd make sense to allow people a place to cook roms for them? I'm sure some of the gurus on here must have non-HTC devices, and its a shame that they have nowhere to develop them.

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I don't get why XDA-Devs is kept exclusively HTC. I mean, back in the day, the name made sense because XDA's were the primary (or only?) PPC phones commercially available.
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maybe this site is own and operated by HTC? haha

Suggestionz please!

Hi Reader,
As a request, Id like to ask for a favour in helping me get a new phone.
Been using a HP IPAQ rw6828 for a yr now, and quite frankly didnt disliked it much.Need to change to a WM6.. have had a enough of all the Nokias.
Used the Black N95 for abt a day and got rid of it.
Kaiser TYTN II/ Blackberry Curve or anyone you guys could suggest.
Apologies if this is the wrong forum but didnt found any other forum best suited for this.
Cheerz

I suggest the Tilt....

Thx
Hi Bruv!
1st up thx for the reply!!...I kinda like the black one too... I guess tilt and Tytn II are same... js the weight thing kinda puit me off....
i noe this is XDA PDA forum, but Blackberries are outta liking??
Anyhow... I see you guys breaking a lotta code n making new ROMS... id suppose HTC TYTNII can be tested for a lot of ROMS and softwares.. can it?

tytnII and tilt are identical except for the difference that the tytnII has the front camera while att has cleverly removed that from the tilt.
As far as upgrades go there are a ton of options available here. All depends on what you want and which route you want to go on. Before doing any upgrades though i highly recommend that your read the kaiser wiki.
If you are going to be flashing new roms than don't forget to flash hardspl first to your device; again this is all explained in kaiser wiki so please do read it if you plan on going that far with device.
As far as suggestion i definitely recommend the tilt. It is a great phone/pda/micro laptop and has the capabilities to do alot of wonderful things.
enjoy,
peace
sire

Cheerz bro!...
Will go on wid TyTN II
XDA fo sure roks!