Error on startup.. Help greatly appreciated. - G1 Android Development

Hey guys.
I seem to be having an error message popup on my phone about 3/4 of the time once I reboot. (see attached image)
Usually hitting wait works, but sometimes i have to force close it.
I have JFs 1.41
I thought at first it was due to the fact that I removed several stock apps (amazon mp3, calculator & alarm clock)
I also removed my entire stock ringtones folder.
So I put everything back in its place.
However, I still have the same issue!
I also tried debugging with dalvik. Didn't get much...
Anyone know whats goin on?
TIA
EDIT: Also, just wondering if theres a way to reset the phone without losin all my apps. Other than backup, i'm trying to avoid installing all of em again ;0.

I get the same error on startup

Just to add my 2 cents... I have as well removed the Alarm Clock, and Amazon MP3, and the stock ringtones (but left the folders intact & put my own tones in). I am running JF1.41, and have never seen this message.
Did you do a Nandroid backup before you started messing with things? If so, you can simply restore that, otherwise.... You would have to re-install everything in order to do a factory reset.
Have you tried going to Manage Applications - Media Storage - and clearing the data?

I would try doing a full wipe of the phone and see if the problem continues.
Just my 2 cents

daveid said:
Just to add my 2 cents... I have as well removed the Alarm Clock, and Amazon MP3, and the stock ringtones (but left the folders intact & put my own tones in). I am running JF1.41, and have never seen this message.
Did you do a Nandroid backup before you started messing with things? If so, you can simply restore that, otherwise.... You would have to re-install everything in order to do a factory reset.
Have you tried going to Manage Applications - Media Storage - and clearing the data?
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Yea I've tried clearing the data. Its not fixin it tho. I have several nandroid backups. I would do a wipe but wouldn't that get rid of my apps?
Thanks guys.

restoring a nandroid backup to a time when you didn't have this issue would be the best bet, you would only lose the changes you have made since that backup.

topdnbass said:
EDIT: Also, just wondering if theres a way to reset the phone without losin all my apps. Other than backup, i'm trying to avoid installing all of em again ;0.
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Well I had my apps and cache on my SDcard and after updating to JF 1.41 i had to do a wipe to get it to work, but after it was up and running I just replaced the mountd.conf and init.rc files and recreated the symolic links again and rebooted and all my programs were back. Just thought I would share cause this way pretty much worked for me to not have to reinstall all my apps... I'm still pretty new to all this so maybe there is a better way.. but this worked for me...

Unusual...
First I did a nandroid restore to the time a little after I got JF's 1.41. Everything was fine at first. I installed all of my apps. Tried to reboot a few times, and bam, I see it again.
In a rage--I wipe my fone from recovery mode. I then use MyBackup to restore all of my settings and apps.
I finish, and then i try a reboot and BAMMM ****in android.process.media is not responding.
Then I tried to reboot 3 more times wthout a problem and then the 4th time gave me the same problem.
Can anyone else whose having the same issue tell me what apps theyve recently installed?

Ive figured it out. But still stuck.
The problem was that i setup a symlink for my market cache to my sd card.
I removed the /data/data/com.android.vending/cache folder and my sd cards linked cache folder.
I then made a new cache directory in com.android.vending however I noticed that it wasnt working properly. It wasnt filling up with cache when i used the market.
I removed the symlink so why wouldn't it, right?
So I chmodded it.
I tried to chown it but i keep getting back unknown user app_5 (the markets ID)
I'm stuck please someone help me out here, and hopefully we can even get the market cache properly directed to my sdcard in the process.
THANKS!

topdnbass said:
Ive figured it out. But still stuck.
The problem was that i setup a symlink for my market cache to my sd card.
I removed the /data/data/com.android.vending/cache folder and my sd cards linked cache folder.
I then made a new cache directory in com.android.vending however I noticed that it wasnt working properly. It wasnt filling up with cache when i used the market.
I removed the symlink so why wouldn't it, right?
So I chmodded it.
I tried to chown it but i keep getting back unknown user app_5 (the markets ID)
I'm stuck please someone help me out here, and hopefully we can even get the market cache properly directed to my sdcard in the process.
THANKS!
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try using the numeric id with chown instead. i.e. 10005 (not positive if it will work.. just something to try)

AHhh Yay JF ILY! That worked . I feel like a retard now.
The cache appears to be filling up as normal. The error isnt gone yet tho.
The question still remains. What causes that error?
How could i stop it?
The crashing process has the same gid/uid as Android.providers.media

it seems to be an app. I wiped and then I reinstalled 1.41. Then I installed all of my apps using mybackup. I made sure to do nothing else after, and I still got it.
Its either JF's 1.41 or an app.
How can I find out

Process of elimination. Wipe the phone again, instal jf's 1.41 and boot the phone. If you don't have the error, bingo, it's an app. Then, tedious as it may be, install the apps 1 at a time and reboot after install to see if you get the error.

Yeah I have done that.
However, its reallly hard because sometimes itll go 4-5 boots without a hitch, and then suddenly itll happen.
Then at other times it'll happen nearly every time.
I have about 65 apps. That's 4-5 boots, after installing each one.
So that would mean HUNDREDS of boots. At least 200.
I've been thinking that maybe its a problem with the MyBackup app.
What if the fact that mybackup overloads the phone with 20-30 installations at a time is whats causing the issues.
Well i'm off to error and error. I mean trial and error.

I've figured it out!
It's something to do with my wifi connection.
I think its that my dns's are from opendns.
Basically whenever my wifi is active when I turn on my phone i get that error.
If i turn it off and reboot into 3g, i never have a issue.
That's why it was so random before and I couldn't find any patterns!
I'm gonna call my ISP tomorrow, but anyone know what it could be?

I don't think it has anything to do with OpenDNS. I use JF1.41 RC30, MyBackup, and OpenDNS and never have any problems...

Hmm, do you have your router setup for opendns or your phone.
I have issues where i cant get my damn router to give out working IP's, so I
need to setup the phone for a static ip and dns.
I think that if I could get it to automatically get an IP i'd be set.
EDIT: Also, could it have anything to do with the fact that I have wpa personal security (AES)

Im having a similar problem but my error is slightly different
"com.google.process.gapps" anyone know WTF that is

Its the G Talk service.
If you dont use that app you could try removing it and see if that does anything ..
Since this has been bumped, i'd like to add that it still happens whenever I'm on wifi. Really blows

topdnbass said:
Its the G Talk service.
If you dont use that app you could try removing it and see if that does anything ..
Since this has been bumped, i'd like to add that it still happens whenever I'm on wifi. Really blows
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Care to explain how?? Im a serious noob lol

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Unable to Boot error, but device works!

Greetings people!
Yesterday I got this message while booting up my TP (latest official ROM):
"The device is unable to boot because either you have turned off the device incorrectly or tried to install an application from untrusted source. Press END to reset your device or press any other button to cancel. This operation will delete all your personal data and restore the device to its factory default settings"
However apart from that message, phone works flawlessly without any noticable change in speed or stability! The only apparent problem is that it takes a while longer (about 10 seconds) to boot up because of that message. I tried a couple of backups, problem was solved at first, but returned later...
I do take daily backups, but since I hardly monitor my phone when I reset it, this problem could have been caused by an app or reg entry a while ago... and searching for the appropriate backup will be a pain in the ass.
Since there's no change in speed or stability, do you think it would be wise to keep using the phone as is, or is it possible this would cause further problems down the road?
Any other way to troubleshoot it (at least to find the program that's causing this) other than a hard reset?
Edit: couldn't wait so I reverted to a week-old backup, installed back most of my applications, and it seems to be fixed (for now)
Update! I just tried a new SD to try XDAndroid, and guess what, the error disappeared!
So there must be a program I had installed in the storage card, possibly trying to start a service or something on every reset... and failing.
Is there a way to troubleshoot this? Maybe through SKTools or anything similar? I have a ton of apps installed into storage card and it will be a pain in the back cover to try by trial-and-error.
Thank you in advance
edit: inserted my old storage card again, error did not appear, problem solved! At least for now
Still if anyone knows how to troubleshoot this, please let me know
Update: Seems this error occurs every time I use SPB backup.
Yesterday, after a scheduled backup, the error came back. To troubleshoot this, I removed the SD card, did a soft reset, the error was gone! I took another manual backup, and again, the error came back.
So there must be something happening with SPB Backup and my SD card. Probably messing with files on the SD, or the driver or whatever (no idea there, I'm a total noob when it comes to software).
Moved the issue to the SPB forum
I have this message to, but I have never used SPB Backup
Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
akpidis said:
Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
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Well I tried that just to see what would happen and I did not get the error message. So it is something on the SD card, but booting without it is not an option for me as I have several boot-start apps that are housed on it.
Perhaps one of those apps is broken?
As far as my case goes, I kept on using it for three months after the error appeared, without noticing any lag or issues at all. The only downside was that it took me three minutes to boot up, something I got used to.
If that's no big deal for you, I'd suggest you just leave it as it is for now, and check for lagging or specific applications failing (maybe one of them will be the app that's causing the problem?). If nothing happens down the road I think it could be safe to leave it as it is.
Now, if you can't stand this, I guess the only practical solution would be a hard reset. You can always play around with removing/reinstalling those apps you mention (or even better, installing them in the phone's memory) to check if and which one is broken, but I can understand that this not only will be a huge burden, but you may come to the conclusion that no specific app is causing this and something went south in the OS.
Personally the only apps which include a boot-up service I have installed into my SD are Football Monitor and PocketWeather. I tried removing both of them them back when I first had that issue, it didn't work...
Sorry I couldn't help more :/

Force Closing Suggestion?

I guess I've been fortunate I have never had all the issues with system dumps and force closings some others have had the misfortune to experience. My Tab has been rock steady for months.
I have been good about cleaning everything up before installing new ROMs.
Today that all changes. Tab went completely discharged and after hooking back up to the charger, it now loads into forced closings on every app and launcher.
I can see all my apps in the main dir and under apps settings, but none will run and the Tab is in a constant cycle of force closing.
I think it had something to do with letting the Tab run completely dead?
I know I can wipe all the data and repartition to correct, but damn I have a ton of user data and apps on this baby and if there was a way to correct this problem, Ie replace a file, that would be a much better solution.
So if anyone has had the same situation with constant force closings, let me know if you figured out a way to correct without starting from scratch.
Thanks, [email protected]
What ROM are you using or is this on stock?
Have you attempted clearing cache and dalvik using CWM?
The ONLY thing I can really think of optimistically speaking is that the force closings are somehow caused because your SD card may not be loading/loaded properly - ie: maybe theres a file system error or something? Apps that load from it or depend on files loaded/loading on it would FC, of course the fact that you say nothing can run may indicate a more dire problem....
The worse case scenario is that the flash drive inside has been corrupted somehow - but I highly doubt that. I've seen other people report constant FCing before, so your problem, if not the SD issue, is probably somewhere in the middle - where your file system got messed up somehow but no hardware is damaged.
I've had mine discharge on me many times with no issues whatsoever.
I tired a few of these already, but I haven't tried pulling the SD card. Thanks!

[Q] Über-crash = reformat? What to do? thx

Hey gang -
Yesterday at home I pulled my phone out of my pocket and it was at the "touch the Android to begin" (!) screen. But it was still connected to my WiFi... And I was confused.
Rather than do that, I reset the phone, wiped Davlik cache and Fixed Permissions (took a long time!), then rebooted.
That sort of worked, but a LOT of my apps are crashing on start, and others are missing altogether. Even when I re-download them and re-install them, they don't work.
What's the way-ahead here? Am I stuck doing a factory reset? Or even formatting the SD card?
Thanks in advance.
When things get that fouled up, a clean install over a freshly formatted microSD is probably the best thing to do. You might be able to get away with restoring from a "nandroid" backup from before things started going bad, but "Your mileage may vary."
jeffsf said:
When things get that fouled up, a clean install over a freshly formatted microSD is probably the best thing to do. You might be able to get away with restoring from a "nandroid" backup from before things started going bad, but "Your mileage may vary."
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Okay, thanks!
Anything else on the SD card I should back up besides DCIM / Media-> Ringtones/MP3s / "ui" / TitaniumBackup?
(Got about an hour while this stuff goes off to my HD...)
Hoo! Thought I effed myself for a sec - from CWM I was wiping all partitions... including /sdcard.
Then I realized... $#¡+... my ROM is on there!
Fortunately CWM has the "mount USB storage" option.
*whew!*
I was going to add format the sdcard from the phone. But you did that. Typically when what happened to you would happen to me it would be from some app updating and for whatever reason got corrupted during install and fouled the phone up. If you use TiB I highly suggest setting a automated task to back up your TiB backups to drop box, google drive or box.net. Then in these situations you have a recent TiB to fall back on.
JaimeZX said:
Hey gang -
Yesterday at home I pulled my phone out of my pocket and it was at the "touch the Android to begin" (!) screen. But it was still connected to my WiFi... And I was confused.[...]...a LOT of my apps are crashing on start, and others are missing altogether. Even when I re-download them and re-install them, they don't work.
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Hi JaimeZX,
I am curious if you have recently rooted, flashed to stock, or installed the VB or Basic w/a twist kernel? I am running the exact same setup as you list (minus the modem) and this *exact* same scenario happened to me on the exact same day. March 12th, at about 10pm.
Detail as much information as you can, I've had many problems since flashing back to stock, formatting the SD, wiping everything multiple times, and re-installing Valhalla Black, Basic w/a Twist and all fresh apps d/l'd from the market. I'm on multiple attempts to stabilize the device and have questioned whether or not there is some issue with either the Rom or the Kernel. Perhaps there is an issue with the stock packages, or the USB driver ghosts (I've deleted all USB assigns at all ports and reinstalled for device detection in Heimdall). Hopefully we can get a good list of information to help us fix an issue that is apparently quite catastrophic (in that /data seems to corrupt) and save others from a future headache.
I have searched the dev threads to no avail, and as a general rule it seems that if problems are brought up they are usually met with "try flashing back to stock," "gremlins," "no one else is having problem 'X'," etc. even in cases of users with multiple complaints of the same issue. Both the DSP Sound force close upon EQ preset select and the issue that some had with the Messages, Phone Dialer, Search, Call Logs closing to homescreen are issues that I've seen this with. I believe this is a real issue, and I need to get it fixed without wasting time on messaging replies to anyone advising "try this," "Try that," etc.
My hope is that between the two of us we can address any of the common responses from developers before taking the issue to them and reporting it. I personally cannot today get my phone to boot without freezing (after boot cycle completes - not bootlooping or freezing during the bootleader seq) and am currently attempting to get into d'l mode without much luck.
When this happened to me on Tuesday night I was able to reboot to recovery, reflash the final-fixed.zip first without wiping data (which failed-/data is corrupted somehow here) and then *with* wipe/data and it booted, ran fine, so I then re-flashed BasicWithaTwist Kernel and was fine until late last night again.
I had been using the phone for some fairly constant web searching and the screen went black, appeared to soft reboot, and then froze. I pulled the battery, waited a few mins, reinstalled battery, once again, Freeze after boot.
No indication that an app crashes, phone just completely freezes, remains screen on, capkeys lit, power button does not respond, nor do softkeys or touchscreen. Makes it though the scan device and scan SD processes *sometimes* and other times freezes before it completes them.
I pulled the both the SD and the SIM and booted up, same issue, though it makes it through the scan device processes everytime since it's not scanning 18gb of data on an SD. This tells me it is not SD or SIM related, and is most likely software related, either ROM or Kernel. I've also ruled out the possibility of an old app/data package by reformatting the SD (long format - wipe all containers to "o,") let Android rebuild menu structure on SD, redownloaded a short list of commonly used apps and installed fresh - *NO* TiBackup apps were restored and the actual backup folder was not replaced to the SD after flashing.
I've tried both the Odin (Fb KJ6 back to stock) and the one click (lumin's tutorial) back to stock. Checked the download of Final-Fixed, MD5 checksum is correct. Cannot find MD5 on the sms-T959V-KJ6-antsvx.v1.1.3.zip file. Doesn't seem to be listed on Anton's github site, perhaps I don't know how to find it there. That is the only puzzle piece I haven't double checked.
All for now, looking forward to yours or anyone's replies or suggestions for anything I may be overlooking. Thanks.
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devlinandersen said:
Hi JaimeZX,
... I've had many problems since flashing back to stock, formatting the SD, wiping everything multiple times, and re-installing Valhalla Black, Basic w/a Twist and all fresh apps d/l'd from the market. I'm on multiple attempts to stabilize the device and have questioned whether or not there is some issue with either the Rom or the Kernel....
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I should add that I have been on Valhalla Black Edition since it was in beta and have been quite happy with it. I only did a back to stock flash to try to (one more time) see if I could get a cooperative DSP sound manager. No such luck, and now a few headaches, and this issue on Tuesday coupled with yours in the exact same timeframe...I'm just thinking there is a problem somewhere in the chain of attack and hope to find it with the help of others.
Also, phone freezes after boot, needless to say, I'm not able to run a logcat.
devlinandersen said:
No indication that an app crashes
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Also, phone freezes after boot, needless to say, I'm not able to run a logcat.
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Try running logcat > /sdcard/some_file and cat /proc/kmsg > /sdcard/some_other_file so you have a capture of both the Android logs as well as the kernel logs. If you're not comfortable with command-line work, aLogrec should be able to at least help with the Android logs.
Given the number of people successfully running stock and custom ROMs on this device with stability, it either is going to be a hardware problem with your phone, corruption of a file system, or some app or combination of apps you are running, not a "dev" issue. Without logs, it is going to be nearly impossible to differentiate between the causes.
jeffsf said:
Try running logcat > /sdcard/some_file and cat /proc/kmsg > /sdcard/some_other_file so you have a capture of both the Android logs as well as the kernel logs. If you're not comfortable with command-line work, aLogrec should be able to at least help with the Android logs.
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I will try in a bit, collecting files for another fresh install, different ROM.
jeffsf said:
Given the number of people successfully running stock and custom ROMs on this device with stability, it either is going to be a hardware problem with your phone, corruption of a file system, or some app or combination of apps you are running, not a "dev" issue. Without logs, it is going to be nearly impossible to differentiate between the causes.
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This is false logic and is just what I was trying to avoid. I will attempt to explain to hopefully help build a stronger environment that is conducive to problem solving. It still very well could be a dev issue if say, a certain ROM or Kernel begins to wrestle with an app that has recently updated. Is it the apps or the rom's fault? Maybe it is a seldom used feature of an app that just missed all the users testing until now, it's well within the realm of possibilities and would just like to see helpful comments (such as the first portion directly above) to help solve issues. Truth is, I don't know *what* is wrong and neither do you, so a focus on constructive commentary would just help everyone out.
Logs or it didn't happen.
Update...
After a factory reset/data wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache I had to let the battery charge for a bit. Came back and decided to just try to boot phone, still freezes after boot sequence. I decide that I will flash a different kernel and a different ROM in order to see if I can make a difference. Before flashing Blastoff v2.5 Kernel I decided to factory wipe/data wipe, wipe cache and dalvik again...I am not sure if this is news, but when doing the Dalvik cache wipe in CWM it returned no result, perhaps because I had previously performed and is empty, but I thought it strange that there was *no* communication that it was already empty/wiped, etc.
Installed Blastoff v2.5 and was able to boot without freezing. Something else was damaged with the Rom as well, would not load home screen, only had pulldown menu. Rebooted to Recovery and flashed Unnamed RC-2.zip and have been charging the battery, talking on the phone and reinstalling apps from market.
Same error happened twice to me and once with Jaime. Both of us on VB and Basic+Twist. After installing new kernel i'd point towards kernel. Also uninstalled DSP and installed voodoo sound on VB, but had that on previous version as well. If I had to start somewhere, I'd start right around there.
Hope this helps, will provide logs from SD backup I made before reflash of new kernel/rom. Gotta run. Adios...
-devil.
I had to get my phone going today, it appears to be working without freezing, though on this new app the phone dialer/phone caller force closes on outgoing calls (I am only mentioning here, I will visit the Q&A for the ROM if I need assistance). Unfortunately I was unable to replicate the problem without flashing back to my previous nandroid. I have it saved and given some time I will do my due diligence and get a logcat **if** Jaime doesn't do it before me...because I kinda have a feeling that something was updated in the market on Tuesday evening that is now fighting with the kernel somehow. But again...I didn't run a logcat so it's not even happening...yet...
...to be continued...
Devlin - sorry for the delayed reply.
I did notice that I'd had more and more apps FCing on me in the week leading up to the Über-crash. Unfortunately I don't have any more "background" to add than that.
I backed up everything I wanted on the SD card and then formatted that, plus /data, /system /everythingelsethatwasanoptioninCWM. Then did my installs.
FORTUNATELY (knock on wood) I have not had any recurrence of the major issue.

If I perform a full factory reset of my ROM, will i lose root and carrier unlock?

I didnt root or unlock it myself.... im pretty sure i wiped all data before flashing the rom i have on there now, but i cant remember for sure....
seems to be the only way to truly fix my extremely messed up WIFI situation... (wifi kills my phone completely... regardless of whose internet as i tried my neighbours and got the same error). i did a restore to last year but it only fixed it for a day... if im gonna restore to a year ago again, i figure i may as well do a full fresh install, since its crapping out still anyway
i have something called superuser (i know is root access), and something called stk which ive read is sim toolkit, in "system/app" they are both apk's. "superuser.apk" and "stk.apk"
also, will my custom recovery be gone? as far as i remember that is how i flashed my ROM last time... but its been so long i cant remember...
Let me try helping since myself new on forums:-
There are two types of phone resets available- 1.Factory wipe from settings of phone/from custom recovery (cwm/twrp) or 2.Complete wipe performed such as in upgrading os version of android (like i did lollipop from jellybean). The complete wipe is done in custom recovery only under mounts and advance option in cwm and then wiping cache,system,data and everything else. If you do so,you will be losing everything installed in your phone EXCEPT Root and Custom recovery.
Back to your question, if you perform factory reset,NO,you don't lose root. If you do complete wipe from recovery,still you don't lose root of your phone UNLESS you fix the root on reboot.
Choose the reset carefully before installing any rom,read their steps,if they ask full wipe or just factory reset and dalvik cache.
Hope it helps.
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you cannot unroot yourself thru factory reset
Pawprints1986 said:
I didnt root or unlock it myself.... im pretty sure i wiped all data before flashing the rom i have on there now, but i cant remember for sure....
seems to be the only way to truly fix my extremely messed up WIFI situation... (wifi kills my phone completely... regardless of whose internet as i tried my neighbours and got the same error). i did a restore to last year but it only fixed it for a day... if im gonna restore to a year ago again, i figure i may as well do a full fresh install, since its crapping out still anyway
i have something called superuser (i know is root access), and something called stk which ive read is sim toolkit, in "system/app" they are both apk's. "superuser.apk" and "stk.apk"
also, will my custom recovery be gone? as far as i remember that is how i flashed my ROM last time... but its been so long i cant remember...
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Factory reset WILL:
Remove all apps and their data
Contacts that are not on the SIM card
(In some rare cases) Pictures, music...
Factory reset WILL NOT:
Remove carrier unlock
Remove root (but may remove superuser app)
Remove the recovery
In case that superuser app is gone, just install that same superuser app from Google Play and update it if it asks to do so.
Ok, let me ask this, to ask if its even worth me doing....
last night i did the same restore to a year ago... except this time while i still had wifi i had downloaded both avast and AVG
I can with both now, and my phone says its clean...
but yet the problem is recurring now, and wifi, 4g, tethering..... basically any function that connects me to the world outside completely craps out my phone...
i thought the restore, and especially he restore and downloading antivirus would fix it, or at least be able to tell me WHAT the problem is... avast will scan the wifi network, but of course this test now freezes up just the same cuz it has to turn on wifi to do so.... while it was still working this test did execute just fine with no errors....
its as soon as internet is connected... for 3g or even my router, it will read it without the internet feed plugged in. but plug that in and it all goes to crap again. Id just hate to do a full fresh install just for it to all go to crap *again*....
ive scanned all computers on the router and those come back clean/no viruses... i tried i different router with internet, same error. i tried the neighbours connection.... same thing again.
this is really baffling.
so i feel more comfortable doing a factory reset....... but i guess im wondering is will it help me??? at all????
whatever this is is clearly not an infected device as some on another forum had thought.... something *else* is going wrong....
Pawprints1986 said:
Ok, let me ask this, to ask if its even worth me doing....
last night i did the same restore to a year ago... except this time while i still had wifi i had downloaded both avast and AVG
I can with both now, and my phone says its clean...
but yet the problem is recurring now, and wifi, 4g, tethering..... basically any function that connects me to the world outside completely craps out my phone...
i thought the restore, and especially he restore and downloading antivirus would fix it, or at least be able to tell me WHAT the problem is... avast will scan the wifi network, but of course this test now freezes up just the same cuz it has to turn on wifi to do so.... while it was still working this test did execute just fine with no errors....
its as soon as internet is connected... for 3g or even my router, it will read it without the internet feed plugged in. but plug that in and it all goes to crap again. Id just hate to do a full fresh install just for it to all go to crap *again*....
ive scanned all computers on the router and those come back clean/no viruses... i tried i different router with internet, same error. i tried the neighbours connection.... same thing again.
this is really baffling.
so i feel more comfortable doing a factory reset....... but i guess im wondering is will it help me??? at all????
whatever this is is clearly not an infected device as some on another forum had thought.... something *else* is going wrong....
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Factory reset fixes all problems that were not made with root. You will not lose root either. For a total fix just wipe everything and reflash rom.
Right now im trying a different router, which doesnt have any windows XP machine plugged into it, and i made it extremely secure. even changed the default username and password to get onto the router itself (never bothered with the other one, the one i had been routinely using)... I did a complete reset of this router before even connecting to it with my phone, after it was secured. the other regular one still has everything else connected to it. this one is literally a separate connection, which i named "phone test" lol.
if it makes no difference, total fresh install is my last resort. if it *does* make a difference however... then something in my other regular router is messed up that cause my phones connections to freeze up - but that avast or AVG wouldnt detect (thats the only weird part)...
i even did a scan of my external SD card the other day, thats clean too.
time will tell, im approaching the 24 hour mark with this new setup. if by tomorrow its freezing up again, its not the router. but if its still working, ill have extreme suspicion that it was in fact, the router, probably something dealing with my XP machine thats plugged into it (well, normally anyway).
Time will tell...
im also trying to remember which apps i had updated before any problems started in case there are any corrupted updates i installed, without knowing it. (legit from play store, but still, ive heard that doesnt always mean totally safe, cuz anyone can make them)
Dude, wipe data, cache, system, reflash rom on your phone. BUM, problem fixed.
I still may, but i wanted to play around with the routers first to see if i could fix the problem.... that way id know i wouldnt be fully wiping for no apparent reason. if in a week or so things have been fine and i try connecting to the old regular router... than ill know its something on there infecting my phone... id rather not have a fresh install crapping out on me.
You can do a nandroid backup and then reflash everything. That way if you screw something up or the problem is not fixed you can restore in minutes.

Random app crashes and problems

Hi, I have a samsung galaxy tab s2 the 9.7 inches one, but lately some apps have been crashing or having errors, chrome for example throws that snap somethjng wrong, perfect viewer sometimes gets stuck on an image and I cant chnge it, but all menus work, several apps keep crashing as well.
I have it with official firmware, never touched it, its rooted with magisk since before the problems started, apps that use root are file explorer, vanced manger and an app to disable some samsung bloatware.
I dont know how to troubleshoot android, on pc I would check memory and hdds, but theres nothing lkke that kn android that I could find.
I think it could be memory or storage, but everything Ive downloaded or copied/moved hasnt have any problems or errors. Or something is corrupted in the system, or I dont know what else or how to check.
What would you recommend to fix it? Hopefully starting with less drastic, as in less data loss, factory reset, flashing an original rom or somethjng.
The device is aSamsung galaxy tab s2 9.7 with android 7 with lean launcher.
All help is appreciated.
I believe this were an common issue for Android 7 and below !
and you have an old device and android which I believe it's no longer supported by the most of developers.
try to flash any custome roms & kernels if available.
If apps are randomly crashing then the reason might be it's caused by an update of Google's tool called Android System WebView.
Abdullah.Csit said:
I believe this were an common issue for Android 7 and below !
and you have an old device and android which I believe it's no longer supported by the most of developers.
try to flash any custome roms & kernels if available.
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But it hasnt happened before until now, what would it fix using a custom rom instead of the original?
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If apps are randomly crashing then the reason might be it's caused by an update of Google's tool called Android System WebView.
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I had that problem with my phone, my tablet never got that update.
Thanks
Clear system cache...
Wiped dalvik and system cache, but still having the same problems.
Thanks
totopesce said:
Wiped dalvik and system cache, but still having the same problems.
Thanks
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Try using the stock launcher.
See what apks are running and cached right when this happens is it may give you a clue.
I would completely backup all critical data now.
Android is normally very stable.
Scan with Malwarebytes. If you can't find the root cause, suspect a virus, rootkit etc.
This is rare but can happen.
Karma Firewall can help you to see what's accessing what and how often. It uses almost no battery or resources, freeware, adfree, a near perfect little app.
Cant remove lean launcher it gets stuck in android is starting and it doesnt let me change to stock, installed nova just to check if it was lean and still the same problems.
Installed malwarebytes, had to run the scan several times cause it kept crashing, it completed and it didnt find anything.
Installed karma firewall and will see if I find anything.
Thanks
totopesce said:
Cant remove lean launcher it gets stuck in android is starting and it doesnt let me change to stock, installed nova just to check if it was lean and still the same problems.
Installed malwarebytes, had to run the scan several times cause it kept crashing, it completed and it didnt find anything.
Installed karma firewall and will see if I find anything.
Thanks
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Figure out how to get the stock launcher back.
Any 3rd party app you can't uninstall is already malware. Check Device Administrators to see if it's registered there. Nova is no saint either.
If you can't resolve it error on the side of caution that it is malware and nuke it. Sometimes you never find out which one it was... getting rid of it is all that matters.
Sorry, what I meant was that after uninstalling it it got stuck in androiid is starting, somehow I lost the stock launcher, so it got stuck with no launcher. Found the launcher that came stock, installed it and uninstalled the other 2.
Apps are still crashing, I deleted all apps that I dont really use.
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Sorry, what I meant was that after uninstalling it it got stuck in androiid is starting, somehow I lost the stock launcher, so it got stuck with no launcher. Found the launcher that came stock, installed it and uninstalled the other 2.
Apps are still crashing, I deleted all apps that I dont really use.
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Lol, that can crash it for sure.
See if you can find a common apk between the effected apps. Any recent system app updates?
New or uninstalled apps?
A system apk may have gotten corrupted.
Android is pretty good compared to Windows when uninstalling apps but occasionally a poorly designed app will screw it up.
It's just about factory reset time or your equivalent.
If it an old load that's probably best anyway.
I haven't reloaded in almost a year but I'm ready to go at any time.
Takes me about 2 hours to get it back within 99%. All the data I need for a full restore is on my SD card otherwise it would an additional 6-8 hours to restore the SD card data as well.
If you don't have a complete reload plan that saves all your critical data no matter what, implement one now before you get burnt.
Those stories are too common here
Dont remember when it started, cause at first it was one app from a github that was having problems, then yesterday magisk started and when I got that working it all when to hell.
The app that I use most has a backup/restore file that I saved on my sd, what do you use to backup/restore?
I would think that some backup solution could bring the problem back or am I mistaken, like if you fully restore something corrupted it should still be corrupted?
A factory reset could be corrupted as well? I mean after a factory reset, assuming its software, could it still have the same problems?
Though I dont really have any critical data on the tablet its mostly for browsing, youtube and reading comics. Still its a bother to re configure everything xD. IIRC I think its only been factory reset once.
Thanks.
It's unlikely the factory reload image is corrupted.
The current one your using likely is.
Other than apps that allow you to back them up like Poweramp or perhaps bookmarks, most app data I would write off just in case that was connected to the current issues.
None of my database is on internal memory except DCIM and downloads (both I back it up at least monthly). Critical apps like Poweramp are backed up on the SD card as export backup files.
The Poweramp setup would literally take a week to recreate. Most apps you can throw together rather easily.
All the SD card data is then again backed up at least twice to other separate drives.
I will try Samsung Smart Switch to restore home settings and see how it does on the next reset.
If you issues are of unknown origins being conservative about what you allow on the new load could save you more time in the long run.
If you unintentionally import corrupted data you'll end up doing it over again.
Or do so if the reload time isn't that great and is an easy write off for you.
Fun times... especially if the reload doesn't fix it
Did a factory reset and problem solved, took me less time than I thought to get my most used apps ready to go.
Thanks for the help.
totopesce said:
Did a factory reset and problem solved, took me less time than I thought to get my most used apps ready to go.
Thanks for the help.
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Yay! Success!
And a minty fresh OS load.
Load apps and especially updates over time to see if one these were the cause.
Forced reloads are rare but they happen usually caused by a rogue app screwing up boot or a malware infection. Otherwise you can usually track down the root cause which is preferable to avoid it from happening again.
Lazy techs misuse factory reset a lot
Will do that, install apps just as I need them and try not to instal a bunch at once.
I had a problem with an sd card and sent it to samsung, they did just that factory reset it and gave it back with the same problem, and they dont even let you know so you can back your stuff up, just lucky it was fairly new at the time and I had the sd card with me.
totopesce said:
Will do that, install apps just as I need them and try not to instal a bunch at once.
I had a problem with an sd card and sent it to samsung, they did just that factory reset it and gave it back with the same problem, and they dont even let you know so you can back your stuff up, just lucky it was fairly new at the time and I had the sd card with me.
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Sammy tech support sucks.
I'm using the Lexar .5 tb V30 card, just format in phone and it's good to go. Zero issues for $64.
Been using it for over a year now. Play movies and music from it all the time from it flawlessly.
Been using Lexar flash cards for over 15 years and all cards are still functional. No failures or card related issues at all. I like that brand a lot.

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