A little confused - G1 Android Development

i was trying to root my phone like yesterday..but i just stopped in the middle of the process...but i download droidsans from the market..if i can auto-rotate that means i have root..also i can autorate the home screen but now the browser
on rc-29, downgraded

i think it's pretty safe to say you have root.
just to be sure, download Terminal Emulator from the android market and once it's loaded type in: su
if the little $ sign changes to a # then you have root

thanks
i have root..oh 1 thing if i ever wanted to not have root anymore what would i do

want out
i have root acess...i dont want it anymore for reasons with family..can anyone show me how to do this, on downgraded rc-29..

i'm not too sure, never done this, but i suppose if you reflash the original firmware it should get rid of root. don't quote me on this though.

oh ok..ill just wait if i get a better answer..no offense

Follow the steps on downgrading to rc29 in the getting root access thread.
Once you've done that, you will get an ota update from tmobile, or you can go and download the original rc30 and install it the update.zip.
End of story.

Hmm. Sounds fishy, what could root access be doing to your family?

fishy? my thoughts exactly

As stated, downgrade to stock RC29 and wait for the TMobile OTA update.
And as for what it has to do with his family, its very possible he has kids that likes to mess with his phone and he doesnt want them to to mess something up. If that is the case I would recommend restricting the root access with the whitelist, but if you dont really need the root then by all means, downgrade it

my parents dont want me to void my warranty or break my phone

ok thats just stupid! As a dad I will fully disclose that sometimes we can be stupid!
As a parent I would say do as your told. As a G1 enthusiast I would say leave it and dont tell your parents that you still have root (its easy to hide...). Also if you ever have to return the phone it is easy to restore it to its previous state

We had this issue pop up already. The handset was repaired under warranty

Unless you're getting it repaired, don't unroot it and just tell them you unrooted it. What's the harm? It doesn't sound like they know any better.

i copied the rc-29 file and did everything and then it says no image file

did you rename it to update.zip?

no..ill try that

what do i do after i rename it...i did that but it still says no image file

are you downgrading with DREAMIMG.nbh if so dont rename it and put it on the root of you sd card and turn off phone and restart it holding down the camera and power key then follow the on screen instructions.
Sorry forgot what you were doing for a min then.

i think im an idiot..im already on rc-29 with root...so i just wait for the ota update to come to my phone and i accept then i will no longer have root and i will be back to normal

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OTA update RC30 killed my market downloads

the OTA update ended in an ERROR the screen with the triangle and ! ........ now I can not download anything from the market!!!
anyone else have this issue?
I'm assuming you don't care if you don't have root access, correct?
If that's the case, download this file and copy it to your sd card and name it update.zip, then boot into recovery mode (home+power), and press alt-L, then alt+s to apply the update.
It will re-flash your phone to RC30, and is much less likely to error out.
https://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-kila-ota-116143-prereq.TC4-RC19+RC28+RC29.zip
Can someone shed some light as to why I would need root access? So far everyone is crying over having it, not having it, wanting it and blah blah blah.
I've been reading around forums and stuff since the g1 came out and still have yet to find a valid reason for needing root access.
Tethering is done w/out root access.
Any help in making me jealous I don't have root access?
I have the fully upgraded rc30.
http://www.saurik.com/id/10
*That* is (one reason) why you need root access
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I'm assuming you don't care if you don't have root access, correct?
If that's the case, download this file and copy it to your sd card and name it update.zip, then boot into recovery mode (home+power), and press alt-L, then alt+s to apply the update.
It will re-flash your phone to RC30, and is much less likely to error out.
https://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-kila-ota-116143-prereq.TC4-RC19+RC28+RC29.zip
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Thanks JF...... I appreciated it!!!! will do and let you know how it goes ... lol
seems to flash okay but at the end on the reboot I keep getting the Triangle with the !
and keep having the same issues....... time for a new phone??
At the Triangle ! screen can you pull up the text with Alt+L and see what's going on?
its says something about can't access e:/cache/recovery.log or something of that nature... any ideas, I'm about to call Tmobile and ask for a new phone!!!
Don't you think that R30 will be applied to all of their future updates? or check to see if RC30, factory version, is applied before applying anymore?
Also i'm sure the answer is no, if i have updated to 30 is there a "flash" that can be done to bring the phone back to default stage before the RC29 and RC30 updates?
Is root really needed by a basic Joe that has no concept of making programs for Android?
My curious mind wants too know
Don't you think that R30 will be applied to all of their future updates? or check to see if RC30, factory version, is applied before applying anymore?
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All future updates (RC30+) should have all the changes from RC30 incorporated.
Also i'm sure the answer is no, if i have updated to 30 is there a "flash" that can be done to bring the phone back to default stage before the RC29 and RC30 updates?
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For stock OTA firmware, no. Stock firmware G1 can only flash to same or higher version OTA. For G1 with modified firmware, they can be flashed back to RC28 and RC29. It is possible that another security hole will be discovered in the future which lets users temporarily gain root access and install a modified firmware though.
Is root really needed by a basic Joe that has no concept of making programs for Android?
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Root is for the most part only useful for users who are already pretty comfortable with linux and the cli. The iptables tethering and Debian hacks are excellent examples of root's power, but improperly using root can also potentially lead to phone brickage or security compromise, especially with users new to Linux shells.

[Q] Noob needs help with his Rooted Droid Charge :|

Didn't find the answer I needed via searching or the 5 suggested threads above, so here goes:
Background:
I just got a Samsung Droid Charge from my job, prior to that I had only had a Tmobile G1, completely stock, so I'm VERY new to it. I rooted it using a howto video made by OriginalDobo or whatever, so my phone currently has Root on it, as well as it's running Gummycharged 2.0? I believe.
Problem:
Anyways, the update prompt is driving me CRAZY! Especially knowing that if I'm kind of out of it and hit install while I'm not paying attention it'll messup my root, this angers me. I have Root Explorer, and I had been told (seemingly by an idiot) that if you change the name of the file (File was in the Cache folder, was something update.zip) from .zip to .bak it would 'freeze' it, therefore eliminating my update problem. I switch the name from .zip to .bak, and renaming it made it vanish, not entirely sure of the filename either......
Needless to say, still get the update prompts, just want to undo whatever damage I might have done (phone still works fine, I just dont like a file seemingly vanishing lol, would like to locate where it went..) and get rid of these stupid update prompts every single time I unlock my phone, it's obnoxious beyond belief.
77 views and no help?
factory reset your phone and unroot it using the same method you rooted it or by uninstalling superuser app
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factory reset your phone and unroot it using the same method you rooted it or by uninstalling superuser app
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I want to stay rooted......... I don't want the update prompt, that is all.
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nobody..... seriously? -_-
but if you factory reset it you can root again
how would that help my situation with the updates, though?
Nooby Root
I cannot help you, but I am familiar with your question as I had the same question on a HTC phone. The answer was that the "root" programers for the HTC Android system were a little more into the HTC system than the Samsung programers have with the Samsung way. That is why I haven't rooted my Charge yet.
This is not to belittle Samsung programmers as they are in no way lesser able, but Android is used different in the Droid and Samsung is not as popular as HTC. Yet!
My feeling is to follow the above suggestions and either unroot the phone and get the update, then re-root it (which should be easy) or let it update and re-root or Factory reset and re-root. Either way should be easy and Samsung has their own way with Android. This is just in my humble opinion.
kubla1 said:
I cannot help you, but I am familiar with your question as I had the same question on a HTC phone. The answer was that the "root" programers for the HTC Android system were a little more into the HTC system than the Samsung programers have with the Samsung way. That is why I haven't rooted my Charge yet.
This is not to belittle Samsung programmers as they are in no way lesser able, but Android is used different in the Droid and Samsung is not as popular as HTC. Yet!
My feeling is to follow the above suggestions and either unroot the phone and get the update, then re-root it (which should be easy) or let it update and re-root or Factory reset and re-root. Either way should be easy and Samsung has their own way with Android. This is just in my humble opinion.
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bah. thanks for your input at least ~
Thought this was supposed to be a place for those with Android knowledge -.-
Guess not..

Temproot Question

Hey, I have a question about TempRooting my phone. I dont want to root my phone because i dont want to void my warranty. But, I want to do a few things with my software that require root access. For example, I want to install a CRT animation on my phone which, of course, required root access. Basically what my question is, is if I temproot my phone and modify a few things like installing CRT animation, will it void my warranty? I know TempRooting will not void the warranty, but Im curious as to if installing a CRT animation will void the warranty. Also, if I do it, will i still be able to receive the OTA updates via wifi? Thanks guys
Temptooting Voids your warranty, Dunno where you heard that it doesn't.
Mod it. Thats all I have to say
Using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591601 will put you back to stock COMPLETELY. Tmobile can't tell. I got a HD2 with windows mobile on it and flashed android on it. Yea, a completely different OS. Found some hardware issues (was a refurbished phone) restored back to stock using a similar technique and sent it back to Tmo. They have never contacted me or ever asked me about it. My friend also had text messaging problems on his Exhibit. We rooted and flashed CWM and a new rom to see if it fixed and ended up restoring back to stock and getting a different phone. There is also a way to edit the flash counter though I do not know where to find one for our phone atm.
so basically if I temproot my phone, mod the hell out of it, im good to go? and if i ever need to take it in to Tmobile or if i want to upgrade to 4.0 when the OTA comes out, i just follow that guide and everythings all good? and your sure that its legit and it works? i dont really trust one-click programs
You are always taking a risk if you root. Period. But I have sent rooted phones in to be returned without issue and if you return to stock as described in the post you will be able to get the update.
Hey, I just read a post on XDA describing why its okay to root your device, according to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act. It says that a company has to prove that you broke your phone by rooting it if there is a problem with it, and its under warranty. Is it really true?

[Q] What order should I do this?

My Infuse (ATT) has been freezing up and acting stupid for a very long time, so I figured a factory reset would fix it. Then I learned about rooting, which I plan to do. I don't know how long the warranty is, but I am sure it is over. Then I read about some backup program that remembers all your settings, so I like the sound of that. But if I'm resetting due to a jacked up fone, do I want to back it up? Should I just go for the reset, root it, set up everything like I want it, then back it up?
Should I root first, then do the reset? Should I root it, then reset it? If I wanna add a ROM later, should I back it up first and add the ROM last? I have insurance on the fone with ATT, will this negate the need for insurance? I mean, if it's rooted will my insurance be void as well?
Gonna do it tomorrow, I have the Kias mini and the superoneclick and a PC.
Thanks.
What I recommend is to follow beanstalk ROM.
There is instruction from gingerbread.
If your phone is passing hard, then you might want to format your internal SD card. Sync with your Google account so it can back up contracts and apps.
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Ok, I don't know what "follow beanstalk ROM" means.
I don't know what "instruction from gingerbread" means.
I don't know what "passing hard" means.
The only thing I know about gingerbread is that it won't root with superoneclick.
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Ok, I don't know what "follow beanstalk ROM" means.
I don't know what "instruction from gingerbread" means.
I don't know what "passing hard" means.
The only thing I know about gingerbread is that it won't root with superoneclick.
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I think he's referring to this instruction list.(read all of the first post) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776129
To answer some of your other questions, the backup program I think you're talking about is called Titanium Backup(you need root to use though), I would recommend following the tutorial in the link I posted. If you root your phone; yes it will void your warranty but if you ever need to take your phone back you can reset something that's called a flash counter that will make your rooting it untraceable. If you still don't understand then let me know and I'll try to help you out further...
Thanks, that link looks like instructions to add a new ROM, which I will probably do after I get this fone sorted. Since I can't update to Gingerbread and then root with superoneclick, that sounds better anyway.
What I really need to know is if it makes a difference if I root right now, then hard reset my fone. The hard reset is necessary because my fone is constantly freezing up, I assume because I loaded too much crap onto it over the year. My biggest problem is that if I turn on GPS and then set an address in Navigator, it will lock up guaranteed. It usually works after a reboot, but that is every time and it's about a 10 minute process just to get directions.
So do I reset the fone right now, then root it or can I root it first, then reset it, or does it matter?
Edit: I see superoneclick supports GB now.

AT&T D800 10q Update

Anyone get this yet?
Someone that gets the update notification AND is rooted.. can you pull the update zip and send it to me?
This needs to be done BEFORE you run the update.
File should be in the /cache partition.
Need to know if root changed.. also wanna see if they blocked the loki exploit. Thx :good:
I ws at work today with no WiFi on, and when I pulled the phone out of my pocket this update had already applied itself. I have knock knock on so that could have allowed my nether regions to authorize the update. Anywho, if I can still safely use lg flash tool to go back to 80010d then I can flash back and see if the server will push 10q again. Nothing in stone but it be nice to have some clue from someone with greater understanding if i can flash back to 10d without creating problems from this new update. The AT&T variants have Carrier IQ installed. Is it possible LG is aware of my flashing back and forth from Cymod to stock and forced the update without a prerequisite consent toast popup?
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I ws at work today with no WiFi on, and when I pulled the phone out of my pocket this update had already applied itself. I have knock knock on so that could have allowed my nether regions to authorize the update. Anywho, if I can still safely use lg flash tool to go back to 80010d then I can flash back and see if the server will push 10q again. Nothing in stone but it be nice to have some clue from someone with greater understanding if i can flash back to 10d without creating problems from this new update. The AT&T variants have Carrier IQ installed. Is it possible LG is aware of my flashing back and forth from Cymod to stock and forced the update without a prerequisite consent toast popup?
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you can certainly downgrade back to 10d using LG Flash without causing issues. That may not ALWAYS be the case with future OTA updates but LG has not yet enforced "anti-rollback"
As for the update being installed.. I have read that you can only delay the update install so many times.. but after a certain amount of time the update is forced. Now I've only read this and can't say from first hand experience.. but maybe thats what happened to you. If that is the case and updates are being forced after a set time.. the only way to get around the update would be to freeze or remove the apk responsible for updates.. not even sure which apk is responsible offhand.
HERE's the link to where I read about the update.
"You can delay the update up to three times for four hours each time. After the fourth delay, the update will automatically get installed on the phone."
The fact that it auto installs at all is worrisome
Thanks for that. The responses in your link indicate they were not asked permission explicitly to apply the update. The fact that this, "paves the way for future updates," worries me that the bootloader has changed. I can confirm the radio has not. I work odd hours. When I'm off in the AM I'll see if i can't warm up LG Flash Tools and revert to 10d from download mode. If so I'll see whats up with root and pulling the update. Considering multiple sources are stating there was no confirmation it gives me a hunch this may have something to do with patching loki exoloit, though I have no emperical evidence of prior statement.
Soooo, if you Google "lg d80010q" there are three entries now. One of which is this
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/agent_phonesw_notice_list.jsp?country=US
Not being a deepweb database expert I wonder if this might allow the update to be retrieved directly from LG.
COMROM said:
Soooo, if you Google "lg d80010q" there are three entries now. One of which is this
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/agent_phonesw_notice_list.jsp?country=US
Not being a deepweb database expert I wonder if this might allow the update to be retrieved directly from LG.
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nope just notifies LG service centers whats newly available.
Was running stock. Used LGFlashTool to go back to 10d and 10o and can't get the server to push the update even after trying to check for it from both cellular data and several different IP's while on WiFi. No dice. Software update 10q simply hasn't come to me yet. Out of time and energy at the moment. Sorry.
This update put my phone into a recovery loop and was unusable. I finally got it back to stock and about 48 hours later it just updated itself . There is barely any warning, a box pops up saying its updating and it does it! I dont like this at all ,any update should require some kind of approval from the user . But at least my phone runs great now!
Anyone with new "q" update....can you confirm that root works? I got stuck in bootloop when it installed and ended up restoring nandroid backup before I fixed it so i'm still on "o" for now.
Thanks,
The other afternoon I was busy pecking away at my laptop with my phone on the charger. All of the sudden my phone has the pretty blue sky over a green, grassy field and it's updating! I did not have the device on WiFi and I did not confirm this update. This update is being forced upon us AT&T users without any confirmation. I suppose it's small size and their over confidence in SHA/CRC checks make them think installing an update loaded over a cellular connection is a good idea. Heck, at least this is rumored to be paving the way for some official form of KitKat. The folks that work on this phone and produce such things as Cyanogenmod and other Android Remixes are amazing! I simply like the clip tray, knock-knock, my back LED working and better bench numbers to much to be swayed from stock. That is just my preference. Y'all still rock chicks off socks with the "ROMs"!
COMROM said:
The other afternoon I was busy pecking away at my laptop with my phone on the charger. All of the sudden my phone has the pretty blue sky over a green, grassy field and it's updating! I did not have the device on WiFi and I did not confirm this update. This update is being forced upon us AT&T users without any confirmation. I suppose it's small size and their over confidence in SHA/CRC checks make them think installing an update loaded over a cellular connection is a good idea. Heck, at least this is rumored to be paving the way for some official form of KitKat. The folks that work on this phone and produce such things as Cyanogenmod and other Android Remixes are amazing! I simply like the clip tray, knock-knock, my back LED working and better bench numbers to much to be swayed from stock. That is just my preference. Y'all still rock chicks off socks with the "ROMs"!
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Not sure if this helps at all...
I had this update (d80010q) installed and tried to root (for the first time). I was unable to. Superuser was transferred, but did not have root access. Looks like I may have to downgrade before rooting. Is this correct? Thanks!
Can anyone provide tot for the d80010q
Root not working.
I can attest to not being able root my G2 with D80010q on it. Hop4efully a fix soon?
lostangelintx said:
I can attest to not being able root my G2 with D80010q on it. Hop4efully a fix soon?
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manual iotroot steps for the att 10o update should work just fine.
Hmm
I have Lg G2 (Att) & hours b4 I have reflash'd back 2 stock and applied root about an hour later i got OTA so I click'd 2 recieve OTA it came back sayin Cant download OTA on rooted device if that helps and thatt was almost 24\hrs ago n still runnin smoothly but file was only like 16MB
This is n another thead then I start'd readin here so I thought this should b post's here 2
So will a bigger OTA push current root'd stock rom out n brick my fone¿
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manual iotroot steps for the att 10o update should work just fine.
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Should I change the command to d80010q on the copy / paste command for this phone? or leave it at d80010o?
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Should I change the command to d80010q on the copy / paste command for this phone? or leave it at d80010o?
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d80010o isnt part of the command. it starts at "adb"
I got this update few days ago.. I was rooted on "d", it went to "o" after i postponed it 4 times, and it went to "q" automatically without asking.
I use pattern as my screen lock, at random times, phone will reboot from AT&T logo.. it's very annoying, and i'm not sure what to do about it.. I can go back to "d" but ATT will eventually update it.
Anyone get TWRP to install after root on this? I used FreeGee with mine. Says installed successfully, but TWRP app is nowhere to be found.
Also, Root Browser never asks for SU access, as the other root apps do, and the apps I can supposedly safely remove are not in the /system/app folder. Very confused now.
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Root. Checker and terminal emulater both show me to have root access.
However root explorer doesn't show any of the apps that are supposed to be safe to remove, and it never asks for su permission like the other root apps do.
Also there is no/ system/apps folder. There is only/ system/app. Are these folders hidden somehow?
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Sent from my LG-D800 using xda app-developers app
My phone tried to install this automatically with root the other day, and soft-bricked... Had to delete the files via adb and got back in relatively scot-free. Anyway apparently there is actually a 4.4 update being pushed right now for the d800. I would go for it but I am still rooted and would like to keep my root... And am also waiting for Aospa so I may let it settle before I jump in
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