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Ok, here's the deal
I'm getting really frustrated lately at the quality of posts on this forum. I came here about a year ago because i didn't know a thing about about my phone and had a desire to learn a lot. At that time I was greeted with nthing but kindness and a willingness to help.
Now...
Nobody, it seems, regardless of how much or little they have contributed to this community can so much as ask a question anymore. Questions will usually get answered, but almost never without 6 or 7 flame posts accompanying it. I see literally hundreds of posts from people saying we need to cut the clutter in forums. I personally like some of the personal convos that happen here and considered many members here to be friends and comrades.
I guess my point is this. Even if a question is driving you nuts it's easier to post a link to the page containing the answer than it is to write a hate letter to a new member. If you are that new member, it's easy to read the forums (most of them really aren't that long and that's what we have a wiki for). let's cut the stress on xda a little, eh? At last check I thought this is where we all came for fun. Am I right?
I agree
It is hard to get answers...here...I thought some were friends too....turned out that they were not very nice....I have learned alot here....but it seems that I learned the hard way.....I thought is would be fun too.....sometimes it's a pain in the ass to figure some stuff out.
Peace
Mike
Calaelen313 said:
Ok, here's the deal
I'm getting really frustrated lately at the quality of posts on this forum. I came here about a year ago because i didn't know a thing about about my phone and had a desire to learn a lot. At that time I was greeted with nthing but kindness and a willingness to help.
Now...
Nobody, it seems, regardless of how much or little they have contributed to this community can so much as ask a question anymore. Questions will usually get answered, but almost never without 6 or 7 flame posts accompanying it. I see literally hundreds of posts from people saying we need to cut the clutter in forums. I personally like some of the personal convos that happen here and considered many members here to be friends and comrades.
I guess my point is this. Even if a question is driving you nuts it's easier to post a link to the page containing the answer than it is to write a hate letter to a new member. If you are that new member, it's easy to read the forums (most of them really aren't that long and that's what we have a wiki for). let's cut the stress on xda a little, eh? At last check I thought this is where we all came for fun. Am I right?
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Well said. Unfortunately unfriendliness seems to come in an annual cycle (there are reasons - I won't bore you with). At these times it can be quite depressing, the joy in our time here can dwindle very low and some may even leave.
You might say, "hang on, he's a Mod, why doesn't he do something about it? The answer is we try, but sometimes it's as if these antagonistic periods come in waves and popping in now and again to Mod the odd thing here and there is not enough.
However, if you spot abusive, unhelpful posts then click on the report post button. We have an improved system for these reports to get to the Mods, but it only works if members use it.
Things will improve, generally around July/August if the past is anything to go by!
Mike
Hi all, just as a matter of curiosity, why hasnt the samsung sgh i780 been added to the forums (i know there are people who have added stuff for the i780 here - there just isnt a link from the main page to a forum specifically for the i789)?
I know the forums are generally htc/treo targeted but the i780 is a windows mobile based device which out weighs the tytan 2 in many respects and performs well as a pda/ppc, surely it would be of interest to many to see what rom updates etc you guys could come up with for this great device from the first page?
I am a wizard owner and am upgrading to the i780 - hence the "mandatory" blowing of its horn. I would love to see what you guys come up with as i never make a move on my wizard without first reading up on it here, it would be a pity to start tinckering with the i780 without first cross referencing here on XDA
This is a forum for htc devices only, people have asked for i780 forum before also, but as i said this forum is just for htc devices. You have to look somewhere else for samsung i780 forum (check my signature).
Hmmm... i always thought it was more for windows mobile devices as opposed to focusing on a single brand of phone, cant complain though - everything here is still awesome.
Thanks Sammy, i think this is the first reply i have ever gotten on xda, hence mu low post count . Im checking out your sig now. Thanks again
hmmm, windows mobile is becoming a standard on alot of devices now. maybe they should consider adding a section for other brands since everyone ends up here on this site anyway.
Not to mention at the moment other brands have posts and threads all over the show making it all very messy.
They can simply add a section and call it : Non HTC brands ... will certainly keep the forum neater.
Maybe someone should make a poll and put some pressure on the guys to do it ?
Well, even though i had given up the query i am still inclined to feel that there isnt any reason phones like the i780 arent a featured device.
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This is a forum for htc devices only
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Fair enough, but no explanation as to why XDA describes itself as
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Community of XDA developers for programming and modding of PDA Cellphone hybrids
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Doesnt make much sense, it almost implies that htc, palm and treo are the "only" true hybrids... Dont know about anyone else but my i780 whips most of em and makes for a pretty realistic hybrid of phone and pda.
Such as it is though, i am still very appreciative of the people on xda, a lot of time and effort goes into their work - for htc's and whatever else the mobile world pumps out. So essentially if they dont want to waver from pure htc then who am i to argue. Hence i suggested and dropped it.
- by the by, any admins reading this... how do i change my screen name?
yes i would agree with a general samsung phone as there are a few of us here among the HTC user. btw HTC made the hardware for the Palm treo 750 that is why there is a forum for it here.
Along the same lines, Samsung is responsible for the processors in most htc devices.
Im glad someone agrees with me though, even a general "click here for samsung stuff" would be great.
I have a htc like you but I would not be against the idea of a section for other brands
If xda-developers admins dont want to add non HTC devices then how about this: Create brand new site that will host a forum for all these devices. Then just ask the admin to add one dummy category that will guide all non HTC users to the unofficial xda-developers forum.
The problem is there are too many other forums. For example modaco – there are categories for different devices but ROM cookers keeps releasing on xda-devs. I like they are relesing it here but sometimes it's hard to find among all the HTC topics.
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If xda-developers admins dont want to add non HTC devices then how about this: Create brand new site that will host a forum for all these devices. Then just ask the admin to add one dummy category that will guide all non HTC users to the unofficial xda-developers forum.
The problem is there are too many other forums. For example modaco – there are categories for different devices but ROM cookers keeps releasing on xda-devs. I like they are relesing it here but sometimes it's hard to find among all the HTC topics.
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Lol... yeah, i have checked out modaco a few times but the reality of it is that they are just adding links through to xda. Doesn't really help the cause. The thing that makes a forum like this so great is that there are so many dedicated developers "HERE" - why would they want to go somewhere else It is weird however that the developers are obviously interested in developing for other hybrids, so why haven't any of them posed the question? surely its disappointing to see your hard work disappear under tons of "i need a great headset" and "my phone got wet" posts?
Well, i made a poll on weither or not we should have a non HTC section, please go cast your vote there. this way Admin can actually see how many of us there are that use other brands and might change their minds ...
go vote here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417812
We have been trying for ages to get them to do this, it is not going to happen. Trust me.
Thanks for trying though.
Rob
I guess we should be happy they dont delete the thousands of posts in Samsung/HP/Dell/Acer/... cooked ROM threads.
whats some good programs to install?
Um well....... what do you want to do? Are you going to flash a new ROM? What are you using the phone for? These are the questions I have for you. Without knowing that we can't tell you what to look for.
sigh.. just go to the site in my sig, tailored just for you.
And before you post on xda again please read the rules and guidelines first.
Click my sig, i got hundreds of cabs.
I know the OP asked when he could have searched...
But i am in the same boat and was also wondering what everyone is using. His question (and the replies with apps in the sigs) is going to make my life better too
So thanks OP for asking a disliked but useful question....
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asking a disliked but useful question....
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for the 10^10000000000th time.
well, i look at it this way...it doesn't hurt anyone here if someone ASKS....there is no gun to your head to answer it. only chime in if you feel like it. The OP's title is very explanatory of what he was asking so no one should have opened the thread unless they either wanted to reply or were curious of the responses given (like me). To be fair, i have never quite understood the strictness imposed which seems to cause so much frustration in (many) forums.
Signal to noise ratio, man. The fewer redundant threads, the fewer months it takes someone to get the same knowledge and tools from xda forums for their phone.
I had no problem answering his question (hell I spent countless hours designing a website to accommodate people in his shoes) and I'm sorry if I came off as bitter but the rules make sense to the people who made the rules and to me and especially to those reading the forums on their phones with a browser or RSS.
Think of Slashdot. There by default you wouldn't see things like this as they would get moderated below the default threshold. If you're so inclined, you can modify the threshold up or down or order the posts in various directions. That makes Slashdot a lot better than it used to be before they coded that. But wouldn't it be nice if XDA could continue to get away without needing the forum equivalent of that kind of system if people would just post properly and when newcomers do not that they are advised to check the rules (and, in this case, their questions get answered too)?
And yes, because of this thread a bunch of people are getting cabs they didn't have from various sigs and now that this is turning into a debate a lot more people will get cabs. But would you not agree now that we are both right? Or do you truly not mind the boards being flooded with the same questions the wiki and searching satisfies? Not to mention spam and people trying to sell their phones. Signal to noise ratio.
Doug
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well, i look at it this way...it doesn't hurt anyone here if someone ASKS....there is no gun to your head to answer it. only chime in if you feel like it. The OP's title is very explanatory of what he was asking so no one should have opened the thread unless they either wanted to reply or were curious of the responses given (like me). To be fair, i have never quite understood the strictness imposed which seems to cause so much frustration in (many) forums.
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I think for some it's just a matter of frustration. I've been guilty of it myself, and got my hand slapped by the mods in Q&A for an inappropriate flame. Speaking for myself, I first joined a little over a year ago and read everything available. This allowed me to avoid asking questions that had already been answered. I'd hazard to guess that the "ask first and search later" approach is viewed by some as intellectually lazy. I can also see the other side that you point out. This site can be very intimidating and some people may just not know what to look for -- especially if they're new to WinMo. I've now adopted a no-flame approach (don't want to get slapped again). I'm certainly no expert, but I occasionally can provide an answer or suggestion, even if it's nothing other than providing a link to the appropriate thread. I figure it's the least I can do for all the great help I've received here.
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Signal to noise ratio, man.
Doug
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Can't help but say that in my head with the Dude's voice from The Big Lebowski.
Well put! I trolled this board months before I got my Fuze on release day. After I got it, I finally registered at xda. Just now I flashed my phone with a NAFT's new ROM. Countless threads of information to go through for someone with tendencies of ADD its hard to take it all in a fast as I want to. Many saved bookmarked threads. Think this might be my 4th post. I wanted to take the easy/short cut and ask but all the information is there. Just had to search and read & read & read again.
There are many talented, smart & helpful people on the forum. This forum totally kick ass in all reality.
BTW d0ugie, website kicks ass! Helped me out tremendously 6 weeks ago.
Now off to search for may att stock ring tones I didn't backup before the flash.
Phaze13 said:
Can't help but say that in my head with the Dude's voice from The Big Lebowski.
Well put! I trolled this board months before I got my Fuze on release day. After I got it, I finally registered at xda. Just now I flashed my phone with a NAFT's new ROM. Countless threads of information to go through for someone with tendencies of ADD its hard to take it all in a fast as I want to. Many saved bookmarked threads. Think this might be my 4th post. I wanted to take the easy/short cut and ask but all the information is there. Just had to search and read & read & read again.
There are many talented, smart & helpful people on the forum. This forum totally kick ass in all reality.
BTW d0ugie, website kicks ass! Helped me out tremendously 6 weeks ago.
Now off to search for may att stock ring tones I didn't backup before the flash.
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Hey thanks for backing me up. Heh, the Dude.
Glad you got good use out of the site! And guess what, you can get even more out of it because I got your default rings (HTC's and MS's) in the first paragraph of section 9, notifications.
Doug
@D0ugie
First off, i didn't think your reply was too negative. You just pointed out that people should search first and ask later, which i agree with. I think in my mind it's the level of grey that exists with the "search first" motto that is debatable. I have spent a LOT of time in some instances searching for a needle in a haystack, sometimes in fear of knowing that if i pose a new thread for a quick answer i might get flamed for it. And there are times when i asked before i probably should have (had one of those the other day) and felt like an idiot for it. And then there are the times where i was looking for something but maybe didn't even know it, and had someone else ask it and be like, wow that is exactly what i wanted to know. And then there are still the times where i asked a Q and wasn't sure if it was a good question and whether or not i'd even get a reply, and had a huge discussion evolve because of it and lots of people glad i did ask.
Obviously, the repeat of the same question over and over can make it harder to find the BEST answers, but sometimes i will search and not find that right thread and then someone points me to it and i am like, that just saved me SO much unnecessary searching, THANK YOU.
The bottom line though is i love this community and, in general, everyone here is amazing and so helpful and giving. I feel lucky to be a part of it and wish i was a better developer and had more to contribute.
Why So Serious?
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Why So Serious?
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@you lol. Perfect time to add that
@OP You could search the Raphael software/Diamond Themes, Applications, and Software/Developement & Hacking which are sections specially made for app posting.
EDITED, sorry if I offended anyone.
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Can't help but say that in my head with the Dude's voice from The Big Lebowski.
Well put! I trolled this board months before I got my Fuze on release day. After I got it, I finally registered at xda. Just now I flashed my phone with a NAFT's new ROM. Countless threads of information to go through for someone with tendencies of ADD its hard to take it all in a fast as I want to. Many saved bookmarked threads. Think this might be my 4th post. I wanted to take the easy/short cut and ask but all the information is there. Just had to search and read & read & read again.
There are many talented, smart & helpful people on the forum. This forum totally kick ass in all reality.
BTW d0ugie, website kicks ass! Helped me out tremendously 6 weeks ago.
Now off to search for may att stock ring tones I didn't backup before the flash.
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Funny i was looking for the Dude trying to get a little Time of from XDA and accidentally used the Google XDA search. This was the only result.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825531964825142534%3Acqr2sjirilw&q=the+big+lebowski&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
I didn't know that until i accidentally searched for it.
Well for those in the Dark here's the Short Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqtgfjkB6Pg
Please delete me when the fun's gotten out of it, but at least XDA should get back two search results from now on, on The Big Lebowksi
In two weeks:
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&...esult&cd=1&q=Noonski+the+big+lebowski&spell=1
Should give you at least one result on finding out my true identity.
A few posts deleted, that is already more then any of us would have wanted on a Forum meant to harbour information.
Don't Flame a man trying to show you the light of XDA, it attracts to much attention of Moderators even when they are trying not to.
If you go to my 4shared, you can find pretty much any application that will do whatever you want on your WinMo based phone.
In the name of
hi every body i just want to ask why there is no a section for Samsung
i see a one for X1 but why there is no a section for omnia i900 & i8000
to we share our roms & other things
please any one from admins can help us to make a section for samsung
mobiles with WM OS
I am sorry for my bad english
Everything except for HTC phones are evil and not worthy of the attention of this forum.
the legitimate reason is the admins claim not enough bandwidth is available. if the ability to upload pictures was removed enough bandwidth would be cleared up for other phones.
Its Because this whole Forum...Xda-Devs is mainly for the hTC Device purpose and not samsung; the reason why we have the "Sony" X1 is because hTC Helped or so i heard from the interview with pocketnow
yeah cause us uploading pictures is the reason
Other forums are commercially viable (and benefit from having as many users as possible).
why not this one?
Yeah, i asked this myself too before.
I know that XDA-Dev is historically HTC-Only but the time goes on and the Omnia was in the first months of this Year one of the best selling Windows-Mobile-Phones on the marked. I believe that there are much more Omnia's "out there" than some of the HTC-Devices that have their own Section.
If you take a look in Dev & Hacking, you will notice that there are in almost every QVGA-App-Release / Discussion-Topics some "WQVGA Omnia" replies.
This has been answered countless times in countless other threads..
Thread closed.
Yesterday, i've installed these 2 apps in hopes of improving my battery life on my HTC Touch Pro. However, not only did both not work or has no effect, but it also screwed up my fone, VERY BADLY.
These are the apps:
http://mobile.dlugosz.net.pl/Products/BatteryGuard/tabid/59/Default.aspx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478519
I'm not saying they're crap or anything, but they just don't work for me and screwed up my fone so i'm just posting this as a warning for you guys. Also, i hope someone has a solution to this, coz right now my only solution is to do a hard reset.
The problems i get is that the screen rotation doesn't work anymore when i slide out the hardware keyboard, also when i press the power button, it doesn't turn the screen off. I haven't changed the function that the power on button is assigned to, so by default it should turn the screen off and i like it so i kept it that way. But now, it doesn't turn off.
What's worse, is that shutdown and soft reset don't work at all, i have to pull out the battery to turn it off.
And even worse, it drained my battery from 100% to about 10% in less than 2 hours when i have everything off. It pissed me off so bad. I dunno if anyone else have the same problem as me but for those of you who haven't tried it yet, be warned.
And btw, i'm using a HTC Touch Pro GSM version so it works with the programs as stated in the instructions in those topics.
What phone are you using?
This is what this app has to say:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478519
NOTICE: This software is only for the GSM variants of these devices: MSM7xxx based devices, Samsung i900 Omnia, Samsung i780 !!
NOTICE: This is a pre-alpha testing version. It's not nearly close to ready for full-time use. This topic is primarily to discuss possibilities... Code is proof-of-concept stage. You should NOT run this app fulltime!
This might have been the source of your problems.
Please learn to read be4 u post, I stated my phone model at the start and end of the sentence, dunno how u could've missed that....but i'll say it again, i'm using HTC Touch Pro GSM version.
And in the topic, it said this, u didn't read properly again.
Device list
This program is known to work on, GSM versions only:
HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris)
HTC TyTN II (Kaiser)
HTC Touch Diamond
HTC Touch Pro (Raphael)
HTC Touch HD
HTC Touch Diamond II (Topaz)
HTC Touch Pro II (Rhodium)
Samsung i780
Samsung Omnia
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
Palm Treo Pro
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So it's not JUST for the Samsung Omnia or i780......
DUDE?!
dude, come on what is it with you?
I appreciate your not saying the apps crap but seriously why start a thread to warn people about what the app did to your phone?
Yes that is slagging of the app and putting the guy who created this down- chainfire works his ****ing ass off- creating stuff and giving back to the community. It's people like him that keep this community going, and have you seen the donation stars next to his name????
Threads like this will just get people like chainfire and other to say "**** it" why bother.
Man the right way to go about this would have been to post on that thread, what it did to your device. help him learn so he can better his device application - that post is on the general forum, what you think they are going to come to this thread to read you winge?
an a closing note- anything you flash/install/copy onto/throw at your device has a chance of crashing it, or even bricking it. If you cant be asked doing a hard reset if something goes wrong, go buy an iphone! they never crash or bump out..............
what you should do is go onto that thread and thank him for his hard work....
il even go and do it.
i think the Raphael uses less battery on 3G standby than 2G standby... just my usage so far indicates that
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dude, come on what is it with you?
I appreciate your not saying the apps crap but seriously why start a thread to warn people about what the app did to your phone?
Yes that is slagging of the app and putting the guy who created this down- chainfire works his ****ing ass off- creating stuff and giving back to the community. It's people like him that keep this community going, and have you seen the donation stars next to his name????
Threads like this will just get people like chainfire and other to say "**** it" why bother.
Man the right way to go about this would have been to post on that thread, what it did to your device. help him learn so he can better his device application - that post is on the general forum, what you think they are going to come to this thread to read you winge?
an a closing note- anything you flash/install/copy onto/throw at your device has a chance of crashing it, or even bricking it. If you cant be asked doing a hard reset if something goes wrong, go buy an iphone! they never crash or bump out..............
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Because posting a reply in a topic that has over 50 pages is just tedious and annoying. People won't read every page and reply to the questions and it's important problems/bugs that i experienced that should be best post in a new topic to let people know. I never said his apps are crap, i'm just posting this as a warning to let others know as not everyone will read through every page of his topic, and not everything posted in his topic are related to bugs/problems either, some are just suggestions etc.
It's like trying to go through pages after pages of replies in the Rom Development topics, it's very annoying. I find a lot of questions unanswered in those topics coz after just 1 hour or so, new replies are added and the page is then updated up to 4 pages more and it's just plain annoying. Nobody answers all the questions in topics like that and it's just pointless.
And as a matter of fact, i've installed heaps of stuff on my fone and this is the first app to cause this problem. Even the chinese fonts etc didn't cause me any problems, and they're the most easiest ways to brick a fone.
Lastly, I did not in anyway try to "slag" the app or disrespect the creator of w/e, i appreciate his work and i get that heaps of ppl support him etc etc, but i'm merely posting this problem just to warn ppl, as well as hoping for a solution because it's quicker to get responds in a new topic anyway.
But i already got it solved by updating to a new rom, and luckily, the Energy Rom was updated 2 days ago so i needed the update anyway.
Did u notice the first line of the post?
Note this is a BETA version and will have issues.
Also, did you search that thread for your issues? maybe someone else has experienced them and found solutions.
Maybe your issues are caused by a combination of apps that you have installed making it a rare case.
I'm just saying its not right to go and blast these apps when there are a bunch of people using them and not experiencing the problems your having.
I support "chaoscreater"
I support "chaoscreater" because of what he answered:
- He did not post it on a thread that is too long and probably the message will not get to who it was supposed to go to .... US USERS that COULD end up BRICKING OUR phones and loosing our time.
- So this way people can be aware through a BETTER WARNING.
- Last ....... "chaoscreater" you should post it in the thread so the developer can work it and improved it.
So no harm, just he missed to mention if he did or did not post it in the APP thread.
Do not bug him for being responsible.
Uhh! and THANK YOU FOR THE WARNING.