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Does Dutty Tilt Rom Ever Leave Beta ?

I have the Beta2 Tilt specific Dutty rom. Is this the "final" version and Dutty is on to better things or is it just a sit and wait?

i would move on to another dutty rom alot of tilt users including myself use the non tilt specific ones anyway. check out his dual touch rom very sweet just make sure to change your radio

grab v3 "final" in a day or two, and use the x.x.11.31 radio then you should be all set.

afavre said:
I have the Beta2 Tilt specific Dutty rom. Is this the "final" version and Dutty is on to better things or is it just a sit and wait?
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Creating a Tilt Specific ROM became a non-issue when people started understanding that the only differences were the radio versions and possibly a keyboard layouts. The radio issue is a sticky which is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
and I've attached the keyboard fix.

the_passenger said:
grab v3 "final" in a day or two, and use the x.x.11.31 radio then you should be all set.
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Why use the preproduction radio when we're 3 generations better now?

NuShrike said:
Why use the preproduction radio when we're 3 generations better now?
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Newer does not mean always better. And unfortunately not every Radio works on AT&T devices.

Too True!
Dutty is the heavyweight rom champ when it comes to the Kaiser. I personally was a little skeptical when it came to upgrading no ATT specific roms when it came to my tilt. Especially since I only used ATT roms on my 8525 that I had previously. However, the newer roms he's putting out (i.e DualTouch v2) soon to be v3 (cant wait!) is worth the switch.
As for radios:
I used .32 and it bleh, got dropped sound from the internal speaker when dialing or recieving calls sometimes, plus horrible battery life
I used .17 for a while, and it was ok on the battery life, also had an internal speaker dropout... although it was less frequent
I just switched to .31 and now my phone is a beast!!! lol
try it, you wont regret it...
ps... Thanks DUTTY and to those who have helped him

I dunno but no TiLT Specifc ROMS needed!
Michaelr219 said:
Dutty is the heavyweight rom champ when it comes to the Kaiser. I personally was a little skeptical when it came to upgrading no ATT specific roms when it came to my tilt. Especially since I only used ATT roms on my 8525 that I had previously. However, the newer roms he's putting out (i.e DualTouch v2) soon to be v3 (cant wait!) is worth the switch.
As for radios:
I used .32 and it bleh, got dropped sound from the internal speaker when dialing or recieving calls sometimes, plus horrible battery life
I used .17 for a while, and it was ok on the battery life, also had an internal speaker dropout... although it was less frequent
I just switched to .31 and now my phone is a beast!!! lol
try it, you wont regret it...
ps... Thanks DUTTY and to those who have helped him
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Hey, I dont think dutty needs to make tilt specific roms as said in this quote he is the "HEAVYWEIGHT" when it comes to building roms..they all work, been using all duttys on my tilt and work super..
by the way how good is battery life and reception on 1.27.11.31, how many days do you get compared to 1.27.11.32 and hows reception...
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Can i please have some assistance with a radio please?

Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!

ive been using the niki radio in my signature (downloadable in the wiki) in eastern us and have had no problems. letting everyone know where you are would help in recommending a radio

There are a whole bunch of radios, and there is no clear cut winner. As long as your radio is compatible with your rom, then you gotta test out of all the radios compatible with your rom, which one works the best.
aphexacid said:
Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!
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Good idea! lol.......im in Chicago IL USA
Am i able to load the radio since im using 6.0?

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...Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
to be honest dude radio performances vary by region; something that works great for me here in mclean, va USA probably might not work great for you. It really is just a lot of experimenting with different radios until you find one that gives you good reception and battery life. I believe that the stock htc rom is wm 6 so any wm6 radio will be compatible with the rom; just need to try, try, and try again to see what works best for you.
If you live around metro dc try the radio in my sig... but wait thats a windows mobile 6.1 radio so don't
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My cellular reception is actually really nice! my main issue, is this: i live in a condo, and last night, i went out on my balcony. i was about 15 feet diagonally away from my linksys wrt54GL router, and i wasnt getting ANY wifi. the only thing seperating my phone and router was the wall.
gps signal seems great, with Garmin. Google maps however, i cant get to find a satellite to save my life!

So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....

cyberage29 said:
So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....
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seems like everyone has got a radio question today but here is my answer to help u:
u need to flash a radio like u flash a rom. when u download a radio it has the customruu.exe w/ it. key is to remember one thing: wm6 roms work w/ wm6 radios and wm6.1 roms work w/ wm6.1 radio only. most roms will work with different radios unless the chef specifically has it matched to one radio only.
for more info plz read kaiser wiki.
p.s. while flashing radio ur phone has to be sync w/ pc

>> I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best
radios 1.27.xx.xx are the only that will be compatible with WM6.0 ROM. Newer 1.5x.xx.xx and 1.6x.xx.xx radios will cause the following issue:
You are going to lose multimedia sound completely: no ringtones, etc, etc.
In call sound will be likely still functional, but I don't belive that this is something you are looking forward to anyway.
I cannot recommend you the best radio for you ROM, but some would say that : 1.27.12.32 is the one.
I hope it helps.

I'm using dutty's rom WM6.1 WWE Rom. I havent changed the Radio yet. I've been using the ROM for about 2 months now and everything was working fine. But recently my phone won't ring. I can still make and receive calls though. Could the problem be because I haven't changed the Radio?

Reccomendations on UK T-Mobile Radio?

Hi There,
Not sure if anyone else has noticed but recently T-Mobile UK reception has become really poor, but on the plus side it looks like HSDPA has been rolled out.
So I've been trying a few different Radios trying to pick up the reception but making the most out of the new HSDPA.
I've tried 1.64.08.21 and 1.65.20.29 both of which get me around an average of 2 bars in Leeds. which is a bit poor, since I'll drop a bar or two which roaming, which means a loss of signal.
GPS is about the same.
What Radios do other T-Mobile'ers in the UK use?, how are you getting on?
Thanks in advance

I am using 1.65.24.36 and I am getting full reception in Brighton. I have got HSDPA as well.
This is the radio in l26 v10 rom.

I use 1.58.25.17 from the NEON (it works with any ROM which supports 1.65.* radios) and it works very well for me (Hertfordshire).
I have have tried the 1.64.* and 1.65.* radios, but the battery drain is too much for me

I reccomend the
SEARCH BUTTON !!! GUYS COME ON!!

FishooK said:
I use 1.58.25.17 from the NEON (it works with any ROM which supports 1.65.* radios) and it works very well for me (Hertfordshire).
I have have tried the 1.64.* and 1.65.* radios, but the battery drain is too much for me
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Funny you should say that about the radios with L26s roms I have never had such good battery life. I am flashing other peoples kaisers on the strength of that alone.

Dutty is the main man for Tmobile Kaiser knowledge. He seems to have jumped ship to the Diamond though. Sure he will be really missed here if he has finished with the Kaiser

I second the vote on the NEON 1.58.25.17 radio. Using the Dutty v1 ROM, I'm getting between 4-5 bars in London on TMobile, and also noticing good battery life and GPS lockon speed.

kristoff_sz said:
I reccomend the
SEARCH BUTTON !!! GUYS COME ON!!
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eat my balls, I have searched, and there's nothing on T-Mobile specific for the UK, only Germany, and the advice goes back to '06.
If you'd searched before you posted you'd know that.
Thanks for all the responses, I've not tried 1.58.25.17 yet, might be worth a backtrack to see how I get on. I used to live the Dutty Rom's, his dual V2 was excellent.

1.65.20.29 performs very well around Manchester. Battery is fine and I can pick up a GPS fix with GPS Test within seconds.

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Reason: Beyond Redundant.

New Radio

I went through a few pages of the official Sapphire porting project and didn't see a whole lot regarding the RC33 version of the radio update. I personally don't plan on ever switching over to the ported version since it's likely that we will be seeing an official version out soon enough.
So my question is to those that have flashed the new radio to RC33, have you noticed any benefits as of yet? Battery life? Signal?
For those of you that have not seen this, you can find the new radio image here:
korndub's radio update (for RC33): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zhzebmabxyn

the mediafire has been blocked from china
Do you mean the radio version of 1.22.14.11? not so stable for me, lost signal sometimes.

I guess it must be 2.22.19.23, since it's from G2

has anyone given this a shot yet?

I've installed it on my JF RC9 with Three. Seems to have a better reception, 3G speed is a tough one because the speed is always different anyway but I'm currently getting 0.7Mbit, which is the highest I've seen on the device (Never got over 0.4 before)
Havent encountered any issues yet. Will see over the next few days.

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I went through a few pages of the official Sapphire porting project and didn't see a whole lot regarding the RC33 version of the radio update. I personally don't plan on ever switching over to the ported version since it's likely that we will be seeing an official version out soon enough.
So my question is to those that have flashed the new radio to RC33, have you noticed any benefits as of yet? Battery life? Signal?
For those of you that have not seen this, you can find the new radio image here:
korndub's radio update (for RC33): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zhzebmabxyn
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Question do I just rename it to update.zip and install?

yes update and alt s

Thanks, I've been having problems connecting to the network since I flashed Haykuro 3rd build then reverted back to JF. Do you think it could be the radio that's giving me problems?
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I flashed back to JF radio update and everything seems to be working fine now.

Radio Issues
chief2842 said:
Thanks, I've been having problems connecting to the network since I flashed Haykuro 3rd build then reverted back to JF. Do you think it could be the radio that's giving me problems?
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I flashed back to JF radio update and everything seems to be working fine now.
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I had problems too when I flashed the JF signed Sapphire radio update. My phone never displayed 3G, it stayed stuck on E. Also, a couple people tried to call me, and said they even left a message, but when I checked my phone, no missed calls were displayed in the notification or the call log.
I dont know if it's device specific, or area specific (So Cal). Either way, even if I go to Haykuro's 5.0, I am still going to flash the original G1 radio which never gave me any issues (other than the crap battery life).

when i installed it my data and phone connection would drop every 5 minutes or so. and the data connecttion didn't always return.

Phone connection is fine for me. I don't use data(just wifi) so I can't say anything about that. The phone is taking way longer to charge though. Not sure if it will hold any longer though. I'm using adb 1.1h.

I've been losing my data connection lately with 2.22.19.23
It will go and come back 10-60mins later. It gets really annoying. but the good thing is, it did improve battery somewhat.
and edit: I used nandroid to come back to RC33 with the cupcake radio. should I go ahead and flash it RC33 radio?

momentarylapseofreason said:
I went through a few pages of the official Sapphire porting project and didn't see a whole lot regarding the RC33 version of the radio update. I personally don't plan on ever switching over to the ported version since it's likely that we will be seeing an official version out soon enough.
So my question is to those that have flashed the new radio to RC33, have you noticed any benefits as of yet? Battery life? Signal?
For those of you that have not seen this, you can find the new radio image here:
korndub's radio update (for RC33): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zhzebmabxyn
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I cannot recommend the Magic Radio to be run on RC at all. I can literally throw a rock from my back yard and hit a TMobile tower so I have the luxury of blazing fast 3G from my house. While running that radio on RC33 I noticed my battery drain was GOD. AWFUL. and charge time took twice as long. Also the signal quality went way down. I was a solid 1 bar and if I even thought of leaving my house I dropped down to Edge. I wasn't sure if it was the radio but the second I installed the RC33 radio my battery life instantly improved and I'm back on holy crap fast 3G.
Please note that I experienced none of these problems while running that radio on the 4.9 build. IMHO, something just isn't jiving between RC and the Magic radio but that's hardly surprising.

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I cannot recommend the Magic Radio to be run on RC at all. I can literally throw a rock from my back yard and hit a TMobile tower so I have the luxury of blazing fast 3G from my house. While running that radio on RC33 I noticed my battery drain was GOD. AWFUL. and charge time took twice as long. Also the signal quality went way down. I was a solid 1 bar and if I even thought of leaving my house I dropped down to Edge. I wasn't sure if it was the radio but the second I installed the RC33 radio my battery life instantly improved and I'm back on holy crap fast 3G.
Please note that I experienced none of these problems while running that radio on the 4.9 build. IMHO, something just isn't jiving between RC and the Magic radio but that's hardly surprising.
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Strange, I went ahead and flashed just after I made this post and have had none of these issues

I had the same problem with data access amd signal dropping with the new update(2.22.19.23). i reverted to rc33 old radio(1.22.14.11) and rebooted twice and now all is fine. that new radio is unstable.

momentarylapseofreason said:
Strange, I went ahead and flashed just after I made this post and have had none of these issues
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I've been back and forth from RC33 and 4.9 w/Magic radio and I can reproduce the problem every single time. Maybe it's related to my phone but to me it doesn't seem like it. Other problems included showing connected but NOTHING data working.
Dunno. Odd indeed but my troubleshooting keeps leading me to "Don't use Magic Radio on RC ROM.

I tried the magic radio this morning before I went to work... After a whole day with no connections at all, I went back to rc33 radio as soon as I got home. I thought I may have done something wrong but after seeing I am not the only one with problems, I think I will stick with rc33 for the time being

i have jf's rc33 1.43 and updated with the saphire radio. battery life seems to be shortened a bit but do find a performance increase throughout the OS. other than that, i havent experienced any of the issues others are reporting.

I've been running this new radio for a couple days now and I just have 1 strange problem.
I consistently have better 3G connection, less straight connection drops, and overall everything seems alot more responsive and just plain faster.
However...
Webpages just don't want to fully load about 75-90% of the time. I'm an avid fark.com reader and I spend a good deal of my train ride on the site and I've never had this issue with the other radios. On this new radio, when I go to the site in either Steel or Browser, I get to about 40% of the progress bar and it just stops. I've tinkered with it alot, and it's not only that 1 site.
Something isn't jiving right in RC33. I didn't run the 4.9 build long enough to notice if I experience the same problem. The no headphone support makes it not an option for me and my train rides.

I am running 4.5 build with the new radio(2. Something) and I have seen a lot of improvements with the ui, and my battery life has improved.
4.5 is very nice and I can't wait for upsates on it.

[Q] Signal/Reception on ICS (4.0.3)

So let me start off by saying I've used both stock Gingerbread, and ICS probably about equal time each so I'm used to the signal behaviours of each.
My signal was always bad where I am at University and all of my flat mates had great signal (3G, HSPDA). I took my phone in for repair and they replaced the main board, they also reinstalled Gingerbread, even though I had already S-ON'd unbranded etc etc.
My signal was great and I could use my phone properly again, internet everywhere and it was amazing.
Now I have my new SD card and I've just rerooted S-OFF'd etc and now my signal is playing up. I thought well hey if ICS is coming out soon why not just install it now anyway, because if my signal is bad on ICS i'll know it.
My question is what is your signal like since upgrading to ICS, if you have that is. I'm averaging 2/5 bars of HSPDA whereas before I was getting 2/4 HSPDA, and the overall loading is slower.
I'm running latest Insert Coin with the firmware from the user-friendly firmware thread.
Any help/tips or insight on the matter is greatly appreciated, also this is my first post so I'm sorry if I missed something.
tl;dr, since upgrading to ICS signal is crap, what's your signal like if you run ICS.
Edit 1: Done some things and found stuff out.
It seems to be for sure that ICS is to blame for this, although I'm getting weird results. I installed the ROM from MrT's (I think that was his name) and my signal did improve slightly, from 0-2 asu up to 6-8 asu, although it still fluctuates. I've tried ARHD and IC both have bad signal (definitely NOT the developers fault I was just saying).
I am gonna try the OTA next and see what the difference is. I mustn't be the only person who has much worse signal on ICS. There is zero point reverting to S-ON and going to GB, because we'll all be getting ICS this week or next anyway.
Will keep thread update in case anyone else has similar issues that they wish to fix.
Edit 2: I reverted to stock GB and then used the OTA file so now I'm at official stock ICS untouched. The signal is improved although still not as good as GB. I will wait until the release and see if I receive another update and then edit the OP again.

I also have bad reception and voice calls bad sound on ICS , I didn't use gb so I can't know the difference but on ics is crapy

Bought mine used, and the seller had just s-offed it. Ever since I've had it, all radio reception has been terrible in comparison to my N1, the worst being bluetooth, closely followed by wifi. Cell/data reception is acceptable but still not as good as the N1. I've just ordered a "new" back cover from Ebay in the hope that it's a hardware/antenna issue, I have reason to believe it might be based on the erratic nature of the bluetooth problems.
Should have mentioned first, I'm not running a 4.0 rom yet, I've been flipping between the original T-Mobile Sense g/b rom and CM7. Bluetooth's bad on both, but I've got a sneaking suspicion that wifi is better on the Sense rom, although that might be my imagination.

Thanks for your replies guys.
I will try installing the OTA file, maybe it has something different to the firmware and ROM I am using, it's worth a try anyway.
It's also worth noting that signal does go down upon picking up the phone into my hand. Right now it has 3/5 HSPDA but when I pick it up in my hand, 5 inches higher than it was, the signal drops to 1/5.

I changed firmware to 3.32 and it's little beter now. I think it's radio software problem

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I changed firmware to 3.32 and it's little beter now. I think it's radio software problem
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Yeah I'm using 3.32 but it's actually worse. I've tried a few different versions I've found around the forum and they're all the same. Signal is fine when not being used but goes down when I use it or hold it in my hand.
I hope the official OTA is not like this or I will have to send it in for repairs again or get a new phone altogether.

Mine is bad in ics too. It was ok. at gb.
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Mine is bad in ics too. It was ok. at gb.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA
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Thanks for sharing, how much worse is it? For example with me I used to get about 7-10 asu in network section of settings, now its 0-2.
I guess I will try to cope until it is officially out for the Sensation in the UK and then after I can go into the shop and send it in for repair (second time).

I have the same problem before I used to get 2-3megabytes on speed test and now I'm getting half a megabyte and from the same place in my room where I used to have full 4 bars now I have 4/5 bars and I can't even buffer YouTube video
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

I have to say that my reception is worse on ICS. I was using gingerbread on sensation, from new, for about a month before I made any changes to my phone (root, s-off etc.) I would get a constant full 4 bar reception, it would never drop. Now on ICS, signal strength flits between 3 and 4 bars frequently, sometimes dropping to 2 or even 1 very ocassionaly. It is pretty annoying.

YES. i am experiencing the same exact problem. i have to say ics has been pretty disappointing. my signal in my room used to be 1-3 with an average of 2. Now its the same, but wit frequent drops to 0. Cmon. crappy browser, bad signal, isnt this supposed to be final version?

ok my receiption is worse at my office.. Not only worse can describe but i kinda suffer cuz of my connection. I think its related to the radio and i should try another one cuz its really annoying

im on ics, suffered the same fate, maybe this is due to DEATH GRIP?

kenzhin said:
im on ics, suffered the same fate, maybe this is due to DEATH GRIP?
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Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but it is definitely not due to death grip with me. I can just leave the phone stationary, not even touching it and I can see the signal strength bars going up and down. I would really like to know what is causing it. I used to have perfect signal on Gingerbread.

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Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but it is definitely not due to death grip with me. I can just leave the phone stationary, not even touching it and I can see the signal strength bars going up and down. I would really like to know what is causing it. I used to have perfect signal on Gingerbread.
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i just wish its the ICS problem... i really love the phone, but im a little bit dissapointed as what i see on the google regarding death grip.

Same problem in my S2. I'm in a place which is like a Faradays cage, so signal fluctuates from 0 to 4. My new phone improved performance a lot because signal was fluctuating more quickly. I thought it was the hardware, I was very happy, but after updating to ICS it happened again. I think it's a kind of watchdog for signal, which is slower in ICS than GB. So should be a way to speed it. I decided to go back to GB but I can't: factory reset doesn't return phone to 2.3.5