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Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Stu308 said:
Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Believe me..it could be one of most impressif pocketphone's out there..but the only problem with this device is that HTC didn't do there homework that good and put this device to soon on the market.
But when the new firmware (with drivers) come's online it will be one of the finest pocketphone's out there at the moment.
The only think for us is to pray that HTC will make the firmware with the drivers, otherwise it will go into be books as a slow and bad preforming device 4-ever and HTC will loose a lot of trusty customers!
But like the other also said..it's being sad in a lot off topics now..so lets use the other threads for the complenning
i agree. i bought mine a week ago. the touch cruise and i am not that impress coming from a tmobile mda aka wizard. i still use my wizard. love it but cruise slow. internet is slow. features are wack. the only good thing is the radio but i dnt listen to radio and tomtom navigation. i live in nyc i use the subway so not that usefull to me. htc better come good or its apple for me.
dortyboy said:
htc better come good or its apple for me.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking...HTC really messed this wicked phone up....Gonna wait for the Xperia or Samsung i900.
You aren't getting drivers for it. You are getting a software patch that helps fix a few things like scrolling and some basic touch screen functionality, nothing to do with video.
unfortunately, if you want to watch movies you have to convert them yourself and spend the time doing it, then you can have some fun with high quality movies or shows.
i will think twice before I buy my next handset. I don't expect the most amazing device in the world, but I don't like to be mislead in advertising.
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
Can someone give me some links to help please? Thanks.
JNGold said:
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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we have 2 differents polaris , mine is the all time better pocketpc (I owned all the precedent)
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
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Mine is setup like everyone else. I have done all the performance hacks I know of (WM Cache, GlypheCache set to 64K, etc). I have over 25 applications installed.
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
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Coreplayer just released 1.2 which performs much better on the TC. Also, I have encoded many of my vids for PPC viewing since I have owned nothing but WM devices for many years now.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
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Disable the shutter sound, it helps.
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile. However, the inclusion of Touch Flo is probably the most unique WM experience offered by a WM device.
..(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
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Install the HTC Calculator.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
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Aside from the video driver issues (which BTW hasn't bothered me that much), what software do expect HTC to ship with the device? HTC has done a good job integrating TouchFlo and HTC today into WM. It sounds to me like your complaints software-wise are more directed to MS rather than HTC.
Stu308 said:
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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Since both devices are the same performance and feature-wise your only decision is whether you require a physical keyboard on the Tytn II.
pistonripper said:
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
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I would suggest you installing Core Player 1.2.0
Thanks all...going to install Coreplayer 1.2.0....I did the tweaks, glyph and sound on the shutter..no effect really...maybe I've got a dud....warms up too in my hand....
Also if anyone is running the HTC home screen...which one is it ?...there so many to choose from...
Is there one specifically for the Polaris ?...I've seached and found many versions and variations.
but why does it seem as slow as my wizard? I thought the processor was supposed to be much faster? And the scrolling is finnicky to say the least.
i just downloaded coreplayer 1.3.0. whats so special about core player?
it's the player which supports most formats
I have the Orbit 2, and when I first tried using Internet Explorer I was very disappointed with the extremely slow and jerky scroll, if you could call it 'scroll'. Now that I have managed to install SPB Pocket Plus with the 'Smart Scroll' feature enabled, I'm now happy with that aspect. I haven’t tried video on it yet, but my thoughts now are that I do like the device, especially because of its form factor and looks. Before the Orbit 2 I had the SPV M3100 (Hermes), prior to this I had the SPV C500, and prior to that I had the original windows Smartphone, the Orange SPV.
For me, the Orbit is a step in the right direction, but I will be a little disappointed if video is unusable.
Overall I am happy with my Cruise (I have gotten a sim-free version). Apparently a number of people complain about speed, and I have noticed that this is also related to owners of Cruise who are on the O2 network. My guess is O2 loaded their version with useless software which reduces performance.
Regarding the video issue, I user Coreplayer 1.2 (coreplayer is a must), I encode my videos in QVGA resolution and they seem fine to me. True, you won't be able to take an existing DVD quality rip and expect Cruise to show it well, even in Coreplayer.
Performance-wise, Cruise could probably do a little better given its specs, but overall, I still think it is a very good and practival device.
Hopefully video issue will be addressed, I am not 100% confident it will be fully resolved though. Though the device works fine for me, it is quite upsetting to know that its hardware is not fully utilised...
As my closing statement have a look at the text below, from
gizmodo. com/gadgets/what.s-wrong-with-windows-mobile/whats-wrong-with-windows-mobile-and-how-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php
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Microsoft is working to fix the whole WM platform. Here's how:
Even when using a super sluggish WinMo phone, it's less an example of a manufacturer not meeting the minimum requirements for RAM, ROM and CPU power, and more a problem of software which has not been optimized to run on it. This is often the service provider's fault. For example, two phones with the same 400MHz processor can be totally different depending on how much optimization the provider decides to do. When you're using a slow phone, blame the provider.
On the same token, the Windows Mobile OS team actually does set a minimum hardware requirement for the "core" features of the OS to make sure the user experience is a good one, but the minimum-requirement bar may be set too low. When companies add apps on top of the core, things start to wobble. Product manager Derek Snyder told me that Microsoft will raise the bar for minimum requirements to a level where phones can be loaded with more software without slowing down the most basic of tasks (e.g. sliding open the AT&T Tilt from portrait to landscape mode).
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Noob here............
Please help me to decide wether to buy the HTC TC or not
I've seen it first hand on a sample unit of the retail shop I went to just a couple of days ago..........
What I did first is saw the graphic interface asap,I saw some lagging in the scroll down of the programs folder, I mean the icons keep on mssing out when I scroll the page up or down.............my question is..............is this very serious........or this is acceptable for a lot of TC users here by now,coz for me it does not bother me too muchas long as the icons dont appear for 5-10 seconds out......u know what i mean............its acceptable for me,dont know about a lot of people here???
Secondly,i tried the wmp in video tab,there are two videos at the time I tried the TC, one is with the stone and sandy video the other one is the flower and the bee,at first try,I watched the first one and its kinda choppy or theres a little bit stuttering with the video playback,but nevertheless still minor fault for me,but when I played the flower&bee video irs as fast as it could be........so what gives???
so what I am trying to ask you guys here,specially TC owners,is it worth it to buy the HTC TC even with this slight video inconsistence witht the device,from day to day use.........can someone here complain that its a total crappy " device"?
does the other things the TC do also as crappy as the ones in the video department?i.e. internet,camera,calling,GPS,etc.etc.?
So if anyone can help me just a little bit to shed some light and insights for me to buy the HTC TC or opt for other PPC........please your advise will sure help me very much
thanks a lot
Vinz
the TC is actually the better device you can buy , I've it from four mounth and the day per day use is a pleasure , if TC is a crap think about what the others devices are........
TC is just my 2nd Pocket PC. My first was Xda Mini. To tell the truth, I like my TC so much. Like the TouchFLO so much. Can't live without it!!!
thanks for the inputs guys.............
so you are saying the TC out of the box is quite ok and fine with you,even without tweaks and rom updates,just the standard shiped unit state, is really performing alright,of course aside from the video jerkiness of some videos and some lags in window scrolling...may it be internet explorer or just the normal windows...still the TC is up to par???how about complains of GPS too long to connect?complain of the window litteraly composing itself slowly as you go from one window to another,etc.etc............or are this the effect of some really defective units or bad ones........or thus this happen to each and everyone of the TC owners as well???if not then i think its just a case to case basis then?
sorry for a lot of questions here........but for a $700++ unit I am really trying to get all the bases covered here,so to speak........
nevertheless......
hhhhmmmm.........I guess I might consider buying it for now...........need to research some more or read some more..........
oh by the way.....for TC owners.........in the HTC E-club support,the one u need to register the imei number of the TC.......do they have updates for roms and softwares there to maximize the video jerkiness of the TC?or other downloadable good stuffs..........????
thanks a mil
Vinz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362188&highlight=crazy
Out of the box, the TC comes close to being "usable". However, it takes just a few registry hacks (see tips and tricks) to make it a great device. Sure, it still suffers from some video and scrolling lags, but for the most part it is a great device. As for video, I have had no issue playing video specifically encoded to play on WM devices.
Check out my first look over at Mobility Today.
http://mobilitytoday.com/articles/htc_touchcruise_impressions.html
oh thanks a lot Sir JNGOLD,that surely help me more on deciding whether to buy the TC or not,and a very nice review you got there.........
simple registry hacks?are they safer than flashing roms like i see here in the forums,I am really lost here when it comes to cooking,rom,flash,hard spl,radio roms,etc.etc.I kinda know a little about the registry hacks,like what we do in windows xp on our pc's same principle right?so for me I think some registry hacks won't harm the warranty of my device if ever I buy this thingy.I just don't think I am technical enough to do a flashing rom if ever.......
I just hope registry hacks for PPC are simple as the ones in the PC.......
well thanks a lot for your info,appreciate it very much
cheers
vinzi_76 said:
oh thanks a lot Sir JNGOLD,that surely help me more on deciding whether to buy the TC or not,and a very nice review you got there.........
simple registry hacks?are they safer than flashing roms like i see here in the forums,I am really lost here when it comes to cooking,rom,flash,hard spl,radio roms,etc.etc.I kinda know a little about the registry hacks,like what we do in windows xp on our pc's same principle right?so for me I think some registry hacks won't harm the warranty of my device if ever I buy this thingy.I just don't think I am technical enough to do a flashing rom if ever.......
I just hope registry hacks for PPC are simple as the ones in the PC.......
well thanks a lot for your info,appreciate it very much
cheers
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You don't have to flash roms or anything like that to enjoy the device. As for registry hacks, if you are familiar with exploring the registry on a PC, then performing them on a PPC will be a simple chore. You just need to get a registry editor like Resco Explorer (also a must-have file explorer), or even some freeware registry editors.
As for your warranty, no it won't affect it.
JN is a good person to listen to.
I work in the field and sell every phone. I left my Atom Life and Nokia N82 Black and Nokia N78 for the Touch Cruise today.
I could not be happier with every aspect. I installed Resco Explorer and I am good to go.
I chose this phone over anything else that is currently available.
Hey Vinzi76,
I have upgraded to the TC from using P3300 for a year, then using the Tytn II for 2 months.
By far, this is the best Windows Mobile phone in the world i would say! lovely styling, looks real classy! dont just go on the photos, they dont do it enough justice. you have to actually hold one to feel it! its just Superb!
I am in love with this now! before buying this, i too was contemplating wether to go for this or not, but after seeing this phone in real, i just couldnt resist!
You can check out the Tips and tricks thread on the Polaris upgrading forum for the reg hacks... also if you don't want to doi by hand then there's Schaps's Advanced config tool which is free to download and use...
Hi guys,
I have tried searching for a thread like this but only found one from 07', Im think about upgrading my Trinity to a newer model but i am not sure which model to upgrade to, I like the looks of the Diamond but not sure about the battery life and size, is the Diamond pro (not sure if that is the correct name, it has the slide out keyboard) going to be any better? How dose the Titan compare? Or the Polaris? Is there any others I have missed?
Thanks
I don't know about the best HTC, but I can tell you that we are hearing a lot of rumours about bugs and lock ups with the Diamond. I haven't checked recently though, maybe they have brought out a less buggy rom for it or solved the issue.
you're asking for out personal opinions, so you can't hope to get an unskewed answer.
my answer- get a smartphone with plenty of ram and processor. You'll love the ease of use that i just can't seem to get on ppc.
My personnal:
pros - TouchFlo 3D, G-sensor,VGA screen,Size,Design
cons - speed of WM6 scrooling,slower video playback (but still can play unconverted videos), everyone MUST try it, so you can not even tell somebody you have it.
Ok i've been reading how a few of you guys have both devices and have been doing some comparisons. I want to purchase one of these two devices, as i feel that Tv-out is pretty cool feature i definetely want my next ppc to have. I've seen posts showing the omnia has better video playback with less choppiness then the touch pro aka fuze.. But how do these phones perform when both hooked up to a big screen? How do the quality/clarity compare? Do either have any lag while using the TV-out function? Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance..
Dave
let me just add that i currently own an ATT tilt. I have skyfire installed and i watch hulu videos all the time and the quality is pretty good. I was hoping to be able to install the new VGA version of skyfire on the touch pro and watch it on the big screen. Hence my original question.. Same goes for my mobile slingplayer... anybody use their devices for this?
And since your all here have huge brains and i not =) ... what is the probibility that we will see any updates or addons, or maybe a payable player for the HD2 that it can acctually manage?
I feel its time somebody just said it in a forum post here since it cant do it.
No, im no engineerer or developer, but i had my share of different touchscreen devices through the years and i ALWAYS found a way to play my divX/AVI movies ... or convert them and then played em.
I read this forum up and down and people are saying they play movies in full quality using that type of conversion, or this bit rate etc etc.... with.... no lagg, no screen tearing, no audio out of sync etc etc. All i can say to you is, ither your lying or your blind OR your using i cooked phone.
I tryed:
- The so super claimd internal standard players (Both of em) (Phone seems to always lack strength to play em without problems)
- Core Player
- TCPMP (Core)
- DivX Player
I prolly tested 6-7 converter softwares for example: Videora, HTC HD2 Video converter (With no pre set HD2 config, isnt that cute), Aiseesoft Total Video Converter, AVS Video Converter .... and i have NEVER got 1 movie to work. A short TV series episode might work somtimes if your lucky, but full length movies from DivX/Avi ..... it wont work. Or at least, through all these really waste of hours i at least not found a way. And once again, im not saying im the best guy on this. But what do you in that case have to be, a video producer to get a video working ?
I cant help it, this phone is pissing me of more and more, its slow in respons compared to the....ick ... Iphone, and has a tendency to lagg when your in most dire need to use the phone fast, you have to be prepaird to restart it 3 times aday at a bad day.... i was so much hoping that this would be the once, the windows phone i could fully enjoy ... on paper it sounded so great with the snap dragon and all ..... well well .... guess i have to buy another phone and wait another year to hope Windows manage to make a fast, not to buggy phone =(((((
I have stock ROM 1.66 in my phone and maybe thats why, but why should you in that case totaly rebuild your phone for somthing what 90% of the phones on the market can do when you buy em? Sorry for any bad language, im mad, and in not good at english.. i want this phone to be good, but its crap.
I would post this in the Leo forums and you'd probably get a better response.
However, that being said, I have had no issues using Core Player and running non-converted xvids from my SD card... on my cooked ROM. Sorry, doesn't help! I agree this should be done natively without issue.
Lets hope that WM7 has some fancy Zune integration that takes care of this!
Any reason you don't want to install one of the cooked ROMs? Worlds of difference...
This is strange . I have watched movies on my far slower 614c with 500mhz cpu and just 128mb ram . No recompression , converting ..... just copy -> paste
Both core player and tcmp are doing fine
Mazzarin, i would love to install cooked. But it seems so hard to manage, find the right rom, how to etc. Im scared i would make the phone a brick basiclly. Seems complicated all this, guess thats what im saying.
Does the phone get faster? like, less sluggish/laggish? And if your using WM 6.5.3 or somthing, much difference from 6.5?
My friend you should really try the Leo forum, I'm sure that you'll find some answers there.
Video playback
Okay, I totally understand where he is coming from. Only Microsoft can make Windows Media player suck in a pc AND a mobile device. I supose they're trying to sell more Zunes. Whatever the case may be, I'm having pretty much the same problem. I installed a Divx player but playback is less than stellar. Videora seems to work great for video but the audio sucks. I love my HD2. I think this problem can be resolved. I am also hesitant to try a cooked Rom. I may be more open to it in the future but I need more info on that. I would like to hear which cooked Rom is the best on an HD2. Some of my iPod files play very well on HD2 but others don't. I am considering on getting the Sprint version though. (HTC Evo) We'll see I still really like this one.
I have HD2 too, but maybe Acer neotouch S200 is better phone..
Do you have the 576MB of ram hack, and what res are you playing it at?