Related
There are a lot of great things on this web site, but not much for the real newbie. This submission is to help newbies get up to speed. The concepts and some details here can help almost any newbie with any PDA.
I’ve worked with computers for 30 years since they were driven by “audio cassette” tapes. BUT I’m a PDA newbie! When I got my PDA, a Cingular 8525 (HTC Hermes), I compared it to my last cell phone and was amazed that it had a color screen. I had no clue how I was supposed to get it to do what I wanted it to do. Since I‘m retired, I spent long hours on many days researching, finding free software, and learning and doing things to make it what I wanted. These are the results. I’m not going to go into all the research, just give you the findings and actions. Read your manual or download one from the Internet to learn the very basics of your phone. Try every possible button, menu and program to see what they do. Don‘t be afraid to crash your PDA at this point so long as you know how to do a Hard Reset (HR). I’m not going to give keystrokes on how to find the following data. Just don’t transfer important information to the PDA until later.
First, decide what you need to do versus what you would like it to do. Here’s what I wanted. I travel a lot and wanted a mini computer I could do MS Office work on, access the Internet to take care of business, call home on, find my way in strange locations, and enjoy a little. IOW, do what my desktop does except I wanted to carry it in my pocket.
One thing that will happen while you are doing all the following is that many of the PDA programs will show up as installations in your “Add/Remove Program” program in your Control Panel on your desktop. Since this includes entries going into your registry, it can lead to different problems. I use Norton Ghost back up to totally back up my system drive, let things happen as they will, then restore it back to normal when I’m all done. Then I install only ActiveSync, MyMobiler and Remote Keyboard plus a few others than I want to sync with when I connect occasionally. You should strongly consider doing this yourself.
First, I found out what I had - A full install of WM6 with several programs I really didn’t want and a real problem when I began loading program I wanted - not enough memory. The device says I have 64 Mb of RAM and 128 Mb of Flash memory (this is the “hard disk” storage available). When I looked at memory allocation it said:
Storage Program
Total 44.77 48.77
In Use 10.96 23.55
Free 33.81 25.20
This means out of the 128 Mb of storage 44.77 + 48.77 = 93.54 Mb were available and being used. Where’s the rest? Being taken up by the Extended ROM which holds the installation and system programs you are safer NOT playing with unless you know how to - like RegEdit, Task Manager (not Task), etc. These are system “hidden” files you can play with and really screw up your PDA. With “AdvancedConfiguration” you can set Extended ROM to be read and used. Also, almost ½ of the total available area set aside for Program installation on the hard disk was already used. I tried and found I could NOT delete or move any of the originally loaded files in “Windows” folder. We’re stuck with the bloat.
I haven’t found out for sure but (someone correct me here, please) the Storage seems to be used for a dedicated operating Page File or programs loaded into active operating memory type of work based on how many running programs you have running right now and the Program refers to the actual Flash (hard disk) space set aside for installations. Think of your desktop as having only a 50 Mb hard disk and having to have the operating system, Page File and programs plus storage on it. Doesn’t leave much.
A neat little trick I learned is that when you do a HR and are reinstalling the OS it pauses for 3 seconds with an explanation screen at one point before going on to install other proprietary programs (some of which were junk to me). If you want to know what was different, back up all your personal data and do a HR and let it run fully. Check all the Settings and Programs screens to write down what you have. Do it again but push the Soft Reset (SR) pin in the hole when it gets to that 3 second pause and let it reboot. It will stop the extended installation. When you do this you will find the numbers are now:
Storage Program
Total 44.77 48.77
In Use 5.77 22.85
Free 39.00 25.92
IOW, you cut your Page File use (running programs loaded into memory) by ½ but you didn’t really change what was taking up your Flash memory. That’s because during the install every program is loaded into the “Windows” directory and then installed or not. If not installed, they just sit there and can’t be deleted or moved.
In order to change this memory bloat I had to find a different way. The only way I could find was to “cook” my phone and hope it didn’t turn into a “brick” to throw away or send back to the factory for a fix. I began looking at what was available. Keep in mind that I had written down ALL the programs installed by WM6 full and WM6 Lite (fast SR at 3 second screen). I had decided what I would like to have and what I didn’t need or want. This is important to do before this next step.
I am very experienced at installing lots of OSs over the years from CP/M (really, really old), DOS, Windows XT up to Windows XP (very different from XT) and tweaking the hell out of them. Doing it on the PDA had me a little concerned because it’s so tiny and different (so what, right?). I learned that it really is about the same as my desktop in setup and running. The first time I did it, I was worried and then surprised at how easy and straight forward it was. If you are concerned about this step and have this particular PDA, go to http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html , download the most current OS and do an install from your desktop to PDA with it. If your phone bricks send it to the factory, it’s their system. Once you’ve done it, it’s much less worrying. If you have a different phone do a little Google research and/or read more on this forum for your particular phone.
I researched different ROM cooks to see what they had compared to what I wanted. I came up with Shamanix and K-Flex as most likely for me. Their installs went just as easily and safely as the WM6 did. Don’t look at just the pretty colors, look at what programs they have and how they function doing what you want. Do some “WM6 FREE SOFTWARE” Google searches to find out what is available out there and what you can get it to do. Here are the test results with both Full install and Lite install:
Shamanix K-Flex
Full Lite Full Lite
Total 66.18 50.77 66.18 50.77 66.80 44.77 66.80 44.77
In Use 2.66 21.00 2.63 18.77 9.11 28.52 2.78 23.19
Free 63.52 29.77 63.55 31.99 57.69 20.25 64.01 25.70
FIRST - Now 66.18 + 50.77 = 110.95 for Shamanix and 66.80 + 44.77 = 111.57 for K-Flex versus only 93.54 Mb for WM6. Suddenly the OS installation files squeezed out an extra 18 Mb of Flash storage for other things. That’s a LOT when many programs average as little as 200 Kb (fit 90 in that free space). Next, K-Flex used almost as much Flash (hard disk) storage as WM6 but Shamanix only used 18.77 in the Lite install which freed up almost 6 Mb for more programs.
Sounds good, right? Remember, check what each OS provides, how you like the looks and what you want on you PDA. Since camera, media and online gaming usage are not important to me, Shamanix Lite is best for me. It still requires a few additional installs to replace what it doesn’t provide but that’s better than the bloat.
(PLEASE CONTINUE ON NEXT REPLY)
2nd half of first post
(Continued from beginning of thread)
Next, I bought a 2 Gb microSD card. That’s great for storage, but I want to install programs to that location, especially the ones I don’t use very often and can run slow safely (cards are much slower than RAM). Save the Flash storage for anything that needs processing speed like music, video, gaming, etc. Once you have a card installed, every time you want to install a program, it asks where to install. If you have access to ER enabled you can select from Device, Extended ROM or Storage Card. Use Storage Card as 1st, and Device 2nd. I tweak installation folders on my desktop but on the PDA you can’t. If it’s going to the Storage Card it will create the proper folder automatically like most Windows installations do in Program Files. Also, if you already have it loaded, it will tell you it must uninstall the prior one before it can install the new one. Actually, they’ve made PDA pretty idiot proof which is a good thing.
Before I go any further, here are two almost mandatory FREE programs you MUST HAVE!!!! MyMobiler and Remote Keyboard can be found many places. Both will allow you to connect your PDA to your desktop with a USB cable and set your PDA aside while you do everything on your desktop. It gives you a copy of the PDA screen on your monitor you can zoom plus use the normal mouse and keyboard on so long as the mouse is hovering over the PDA screen. Sooooo muchchch eeesieeer!!!!!!! In fact, it should be your first two installs before anything else!
Here’s a helpful hit on installing programs. Many times an installation program will come as a .exe file you run from your desktop. What it usually does is extract and create a folder that will hold a couple of files ending in .CAB. Then it will copy the appropriate .CAB to your mobile device. Then it will run the .CAB for installation. The .CAB is the important part. All the rest essentially sets up your desktop to run the .CAB on your PDA. Many times the installation program will be a .ZIP, .RAR, or other compressed file or even a .CAB file. If it’s a compressed file, uncompress it and look for the .CAB. When looking at .CAB files you will often find several with identical names except for the few letters just before the “.CAB”. These are the same but designed for different types of operating systems. I’m sorry I can’t rediscover the link for the details (maybe someone reading this will give us the link later) but I did learn that those with .ARM, .ARM4, Xscale, or rarely PXA, OMAP, or Samsung S3C24xx are for the newer PDAs running WM5 or WM6. Every PPC2000-2003 and every smartphone on the market (at least that I know of) is an ARM device. The others are for older system. If in doubt, try to run each one. The ones that are incorrect will NOT install. Only the one that IS correct will. From then on you will know which type to copy to your PDA. Once copied to a named folder (I use “Install CABs”) on the Storage Card, they can be simply clicked on at any time and installed. To regain memory or stop using it, use “Remove Programs” in Settings/System to get rid of them. You can reinstall anytime later.
One thing I did was move almost all of the CAB files for the programs I wanted to a designated folder on the Storage Card. One suggestion from others is to rename each CAB with a “#-“ in front of the name with the number corresponding to importance of that CAB to you. That way, when you do a reinstall, or HR, out in the field, your CABs are with you and you can see which ones should be loaded first. This works well if there is some conflict with installs one after another. Personally, I haven’t run into that so I rename them to a shorter name that identifies what it is (e.g. in35prtv33.24.arm4.cab becomes PocketPool.cab). The next thing I do is use the settings or preferences in each program to make a folder on the Storage Card the default folder - like My Documents, Favorites, Downloads, etc. Now they won’t be lost if I have to HR the PDA.
Along with the information in the above paragraphs, I do something else because I’m gone when I’m most using my PDA. On the Storage Card (a copy on each card I have) is the installed programs in the normal “Program” folder which are my operating files and a copy of the “Install CABs” folder which also includes a backup of my Contacts. One additional item is a “Serials” folder in the “Install CABs” folder. This has a .txt file of all the registration codes I need plus copies of all the altered (cracked) files I need if I have to reinstall anything on the road. So long as I can Hard Reset my phone, I can reinstall everything back to normal and continue as I need. Since I have several Storage Cards this is on each card. The balance of the Storage cards will have different eBooks, music, DVDs, etc. that don’t all fit on one card. That way, I have several backups of critical files plus entertainment as needed. I use a small dot of different colored paint on the bottom edge of each card so I can tell which card is in the phone at any time.
With all the above, if my PDA freezes or stops working properly, the universal fix-it is to do a Hard Reset. If that doesn’t work, I’m SOL. If it does I’m in business. All I do is a HR (Lite) and soft reset at the 3 second warning. Then I go back into my Storage Card and reinstall those programs I need to get back to where I can work.
Once you have things loaded and working properly, you can consider tweaking the system. During this process you may have found multiple editions of software you want to use like three different registry editors, five different tweak programs, etc. Go ahead and compare and see which ones you want and delete the rest. On a PDA it’s fairly easy. When everything is said and done, you can do a clean HR and only load those specific versions you want and have a fresh, clean, trim system to backup as your first installation process.
Finally, so you can see the results I came up with in this process, here’s a list of the programs I installed. All are on and working. None of them have to be cleared before I can have room to open another one. These are the final versions of similar programs such that there is minimal overlap but expanded utility when more than one is installed.
Sound Pocket Dictate
Mortgage CALC
WkTASK
Touch Caller
Tao Java
GSFinder+
Pocket Mechanic
Adobe Reader
ActiveX Flash 7
Sompy Media Player
enAlarmPPC
True Term Translator
TT Swedish-English
TT Spanish-English
TT Portugese-English
TT Italian-English
TT German-English
TT French-English
Town Compass US Travel Directory
Town Compass DataViewer
Tagalog for Travelers
SKTools
Paris Guide
Metro
mCity Tours
Google Maps
Flashlight Colors
UniSync
Spb Pocket Plus
tGetFile.dll
MIcrosoft .NET CF 2.0
Maufait Instafind
DinaSoft Tap Text
DinaSoft MemMaid
DinaSoft HandyMenu
CallFirewall
Tab Web Viewer (IE)
Dictionary Manager
Schap's Advanced Config 2.0
Yahtz
Warefare Incorporated
Vision Quest
Trivial Pursuit
Super Wild Wild Words
Space Adventure in Infinite Space
Smart Mahjongg
Dames are Trouble Game
Word Mojo
Ultimate Bowling Fighter
Mazera
Mars Need Cows
Hellfire
Bzzz
Realms
1001 Crossword Puzzle
Xplodus
Xonix
Pocket Spades
Patience
JumpyBall
Hot Death Uno
Advanced Lines
Here are my original results on memory usage.
Storage Program
Total 44.77 48.77
In Use 5.77 22.85
Free 39.00 25.92
Here are the final results
Storage Program
Total 66.18 50.77
In Use 36.55 25.77
Free 29.63 25.00
In other words, by opening and freeing the Extended ROM, Putting as much on the Storage Card as possible and applying a few tweaks for caching and folder locations, I still have almost as much of both Storage and Program Memory as I started with to run almost anything without having to remove and reinstall programs on the fly.
It’s a lot easier than you think and idiot proof in most cases. Don’t fear playing with your PDA and making it what you want. Have fun and ENJOY!
Dr. Ken Rich
I'm looking for a synchronization solution that will allow me to synchronize files between my Windows 7 Pro desktop, Windows 7 Pro Netbook and my WinMo 6.5 HD2. The limitations of the Windows Mobile Device Center in only being able to synchronise to the phone main memory is a major shortcoming IMHO and I really need to be able to utilize the extra storage capacity of an SD card. I will need to be able to synchronise different files between say my desktop and netbook than I would between my desktop and HD2, so any software I use will need to support profiles.
I've had a quick Google this morning for third-party apps to do this and found Syncables 360 which gets good reviews and seems to cover everything that I need.
Anyone here used it or have experience of it, good, bad or otherwise?
Well to answer my own thread, I took the plunge and bought this software. I can now understand why they no longer offer a trial version...
Initially I had problems installing this software on my Windows 7 desktop PC with the installer saying I didn't have the Adobe Flash player installed. I did have the latest Player version and this was confirmed to be working via Adobe's online diagnostics. I got around this problem by downloading & installing the latest Beta of the Flash Player. Now any software that is reliant upon third-party plugins such as Adobe Player worry me, but I had already paid for the software licence and the specifications of the software looked very promising.
So on to actually running up the software...
Next worry - it's a Java app. and from experience I know that any Java app that has to make calls to hardware as this software will need to do, is likely to to have issues with access permissions and operating system-level security software. That said, the software ran up fine and apart from a couple of rendering issues with the screen dialogues text (I've set my system to a slightly lager font than default) all seemed to be good to go. So, now to set-up my first sync profile...
Well you can't set up a profile unless you register an online account with the developer. Why? If I setup a profile to synchronise my data then I'd like that profile to be retained on my computer not on some third party's server. Why do they need to retain control over what I choose to synchronise? Anyway, an account was setup and a basic sync profile was established between my computer and a USB2 external hard disk. So I start the profile with just a few meg of basic file types to transfer (xls, doc & jpg), it appears to start OK but then it slows but the computer hard disk light is going full blast and the whole computer grinds to a near halt (Quad Core CPU with 4GB RAM). I manage to get Windows task manager up after much wait and sure enough the CPU is running at 100%. I manage to force a shut-down via task manager and the system shuts down.
OK, let's restart check the event logs and see what might have gone wrong. No chance! My once reliable system now Blue Screens with "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL". Nothing I could do could get it past this point and Windows 7 repair declares there are problems with the file system which after 10 minutes or so appear to have been fixed by chqdsk. Nothing would make the computer boot again, last know good, safe mode, Windows repair... nothing. The system would blue screen no matter what.
Eventually the only option left was to do a full system restore to before Syncables was installed. After a further chkdsk the system reboots and all is again well. I run hard disk and hardware diagnostics to make sure the system is healthy and not suffering from a failing hard disk, system bus error or faulty RAM modules - all test 100%
In fairness to Syncables they did offer to do remote support, but I declined and said I needed a robust system and had no confidence in the Syncables after it all but trashed my whole system. Thankfully they did agree to a full refund.
It's probably unfair to judge this software based upon my experience alone, but it does make you wonder why they no longer offer a trial version for download.
On paper this software looks to be an excellent all-round synchronisation solution, but sadly an implementation based upon Java & Adobe Flash Player is unlikely to ever be as robust as a system-level coded solution.
is there anyway to increase programs launching speed?
i ask this because every time i open up a program on my windows phone, it takes about 2 to 3 secs to load up something (there is just a rotating wait cursor), and the program appears then.
both my omnia ii and hd2 are suffering this problem.
i am wondering if the launching program speed could be increased by doing something? say changing some registry or increasing papepool size?
thanks!
You could use a task manager to see if your memory is not taken by some other process, you can also use overclocking, but don't forget that some programs need to cache or load database before starting.
Quite a lot of things can slow the launch down. Does it the program live in main memory or on a storage card? If it is the latter it has to be read out of the card into main memory before it can be launched.
If the application was written in .NET CF, VB C# etc., and especially if the application is quite large, there is a hit in performance while the JIT compiler converts the IL instructions in the executable to native ARM code in order to able to run it.
If the .NET executable is on a storage card then the delays above get combined.
I think cook rom with 12M pagepool would be good enough. I current running 6.5 with with config running like cham~
hungelt8 said:
is there anyway to increase programs launching speed?
i ask this because every time i open up a program on my windows phone, it takes about 2 to 3 secs to load up something (there is just a rotating wait cursor), and the program appears then.
both my omnia ii and hd2 are suffering this problem.
i am wondering if the launching program speed could be increased by doing something? say changing some registry or increasing papepool size?
thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Open the program then go to the today screen. Open task manager and add the running program to the exclusive list. Now each time it is opened you should notice less lag. More ram will be in use however.
I downloaded a few .GBA files and transferred them into the /gba/roms folder on my SD card, and I try to play them in the app called "GBA Emulator". They show up, but when I get an error saying:
"No bios file found".
Does anyone know where I can find these bios? I've done a lot of googling, and yes, I searched the forums.
Also, first thread.
MrHaddad said:
I downloaded a few .GBA files and transferred them into the /gba/roms folder on my SD card, and I try to play them in the app called "GBA Emulator". They show up, but when I get an error saying:
"No bios file found".
Does anyone know where I can find these bios? I've done a lot of googling, and yes, I searched the forums.
Also, first thread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have to get the BIOS from a real GBA - any other method is piracy.
EDIT: You obviously didn't search very hard either.
"Method 1 - Xboo Package
The nocash xboo package (download here) includes ready-for-use software for downloading the BIOS from GBA to PC. It also includes instructions on how to built a cable connection between GBA link port and PC parallel port, the circuit is relative simple: You need only a handful of wires (plus plugs, unless you'd connect the cables directly to the mainboard). Anyways, that means soldering and dealing with hardware, and is probably not suitable for software guys. And, of course, it may take up 1-2 hours of your time, even if you have wires and soldering iron at hand.
Method 2 - Custom Solutions
If you do already have a working cable connection between PC and GBA then you could write a transmit procedure at the GBA side, and a receive procedure at the PC side - this could be implemented only by software experts - or by people whom already own software for that purpose (for example, some hardware debuggers may include a memory transfer function).
But not enough, the GBA includes a copy-protection, this can be bypassed by following pseudo code formula; used to read one byte (x) from address , the address range is 0..3FFFh (16KBytes); you could use it, for example, to write a program that copies all bytes into Work RAM, and then transfer that memory to PC:
x = (MidiKey2Freq(y-(((y AND 3)+1)OR 3), 168, 0) * 2) SHR 24
Explained: The read-protection does not allow the user program to read BIOS memory by LDR opcodes. The BIOS CpuSet and CpuFastSet memory copy functions could theoretically read from BIOS memory, however, these functions verify if the source address is in BIOS area and will silently reject the transfer. The MidiKey2Freq BIOS function (SWI 1FH, incoming parameters in r0,r1,r2, return value in r0) does not include such verification. It is normally intended to read a MidiKey value from memory, and to convert it into a frequence value. The above formula undoes this conversion and returns the original memory value. This mechanism was discoverd by DarkFader, which is cool, his description was kinda dull though, but anyways: thanks!"
http://nocash.emubase.de/gbabios.htm
(no, you won't find the BIOS there but you can get the tool to extract the BIOS from a real GBA if you feel like you want to go through all of that work)
I will close this thread since you already got your answer .
Thanks,
Hey Everyone,
I thought about posting this into the mobile kepler thread because thats where I started from. However, no one else running mobile kepler seems to have this issue.
I have a macbook pro running windows 8 in boot camp. I installed steam (beta client enabled), geforce experience and the latest beta graphics drivers. Games work great while playing on the laptop (burnout, GTA 4 and Half Life). The registry hack to skip mobile GPU check works to enable streaming to the shield. When go into shield streaming on the shield, it sees the laptop and games. I can pick Steam and it changes the resolution on the laptop and steam opens and goes into big picture mode.
Sound and video stream to the shield fine. But I can't control anything with the shield. I can control anything with the touchscreen or with the controller. If i go into settings in big picture mode (with the mouse on the computer), I can click on Controllers and it says none detected. This is the case in every game as well. Sound and video make it to the shield without issue, but I can't control anything.
I have tried restarting, reinstalling geforce experience, trying non-beta graphics drivers, etc. Nothing seems to work. I had also installed Splashtop streamer (just because I use that product on every machine I have) and I thought that might be conflicting with things. But uninstalling it did not help.
Has anyone experience this? Anything I can try to get it to work?
There are other people reporting similar issues on the GeForce forums. There are two issues that I've seen.
1. SecureBoot incompatibility - seems unlikely for you since the Mac's EFI version doesn't support it.
2. Short file name issue
The way that NVIDIA gets their input DLL loaded into every process is using a registry value that only supports short file names. If short file names are disabled for some reason, it won't be able to load the DLL and the controller won't work.
There's more info in the forum links from this post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44678873&postcount=40
Thanks for your reply. I did some research after posting and found those two items you mentioned. Mine Mac is booting in Legacy mode so thats not the issue. I tried the short name recommendation which was to change 8dot3name to 0 (mine was originally set at 2) and then uninstall geforce experience and drivers, delete the Nvidia folder from both program files folders and then restart and reinstall. That hasn't solved the problem. I also tried changing it back to 2 and and doing the same with no success.
Supposedly NVIDIA is testing a fix internally and it should be out this month. I'm just worried that my issue has something to do with boot camp. I have seen others with MacBook pros on here getting this to work and I don't really see what the difference is between their setup and mine that is causing this to not work.
Does windows keep logs of errors of things it couldn't load? I imagine if the registry was telling windows to start something but it couldn't find it on the disk (due to short names) it would throw an error right? (sorry, I'm mostly a mac guy so I don't know what the PC equivalent to Console.app is)
jeffburg said:
Does windows keep logs of errors of things it couldn't load? I imagine if the registry was telling windows to start something but it couldn't find it on the disk (due to short names) it would throw an error right? (sorry, I'm mostly a mac guy so I don't know what the PC equivalent to Console.app is)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is console.app the terminal? If so on windows its cmd (hold windows key + R to open the run dialog, enter cmd, OK) but windows cmd is vastly inferior to the mac terminal in my opinion (I am a windows guy, just saying, the windows command line isnt as good as the one on UNIX like systems).
The windows event log can be opened from control panel. http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/wi...ack-down-issues-that-cause-slower-boot-times/.
Console looks to be equivalent event viewer. Thanks for the suggestion. I should be able to inspect it tonight and look for errors loading the rxinput dll file.
Wow. What an annoying issue. So the problem was that my Program Files folders don't have short name. On top of that when I try to give them short names with admin prompt and fsutil file setshortname it says permission is denied. I'm assuming this is because the Programs files folders are super super system folders.
I tried using %PROGRAMFILES% in the registry entries for rxinput.dll but that didn't work either. So I found the jankiest workaround ever. I copied the dll to the C drive root and then linked the registry to that file. (I actually copied the both dll files. one is under Program Files X86 and on under regular)
Now it works!!!!!
Jankiest workarund ever... but it works.
jeffburg said:
Wow. What an annoying issue. So the problem was that my Program Files folders don't have short name. On top of that when I try to give them short names with admin prompt and fsutil file setshortname it says permission is denied. I'm assuming this is because the Programs files folders are super super system folders.
I tried using %PROGRAMFILES% in the registry entries for rxinput.dll but that didn't work either. So I found the jankiest workaround ever. I copied the dll to the C drive root and then linked the registry to that file. (I actually copied the both dll files. one is under Program Files X86 and on under regular)
Now it works!!!!!
Jankiest workarund ever... but it works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, bit of an odd one. Good that you got it sorted though :good:
With windows you often have to take "but it works" as the correct solution There probably is a better way in this case (taking ownership of program files and then trying to make the changes you require first before resetting the ownership is what I would have looked at doing) but if it works now your probably best to just leave it rather than tempting the computer to say no again