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WM 5.0 installation question from a new guy

Well I just got my iMate a couple of weeks ago and sold my Treo so I am now a slave to Bill once more.
My questions are regarding installation on WM, I know that in Palm, I could just copy the app file to the palm ( or cad) and it would not only run from there but would add itself to the desktop.
Can someone please explain the install process on WM, is there a registry ? Can I just drop fles in and expect them to work or is ther an install with DLL's, registry entries and so on ? If I install on to an external card and then do a hard reset, will I have to reinstall?
How is uninstall done ? I installed Destinator in the main memory which just about took up all the memory I had, and once it did not seem to work, I uninstalled it, but my main memory seemed to remain full ??? So I had to do a hard reset.
By the way, where are files tranferred via IR and BT stored on the device, can I specify another place ?
Hope someone can help me ASAP
AZ

There are three ways apps are installed on a PPC.
1) Via a setup file on your PC, it will use the ActiveSync connection to install it onto your device. You get the option to install to the memory or the card.
2) Via a CAB file on the device, you tap it, and start the install, then select internal or storage.
3) Via a program executable that you just tap to run, it is up to you where you place these files.
I usually install system apps internally, and everything else on the card. There's no real difference in speed between internal and storage under WM5 since the internal memory is also flash.
If you hard reset it, yes you will need to reinstall everything, but unless you really mess it up, you shouldn't have to. Letting the battery run down will not wipe your data as everything is in flash. There are a number of backup apps you can get, three most popular being Sunnysoft Backup, SPB Backup, and Sprite Backup. If you are new to the platform and will be tinkering, perhaps a backup of your good working config would be recommended, then after you mess it up with all the little apps you are bound to be playing with, you can restore it to it's good working state.
As for beaming, I believe it simply places new files in the My Documents folder, the only way you can change this is by the registry if it's even possible.

Some more info regarding installs?
I was also woneing where such things as favorites, voice dial recordings and others are saved, is it possible to back these up seperately ?

those are in the /Documents folder. And recordings are inside the /Document/Notes

How can I create a "disk image" of my device?

Greetings everyone! First off, thank you for a wealth of information on this site as well as the coolest apps and ROMs. I'm glad I came across this site.
I've been trying out different ROMs by different developers. They're all great! I feel like a dude driving a different sports car every week! My question is, how can I create a "disk image" of my current setup? Is there a program for WM6 like PQDI or Norton Ghost?

Thats a good question... this is what we need... than ill test more roms ^^

This part is tricky.
There are two major backup utilities: Sprite and SPB backup.
Trouble is that while they both create a full backup including registry, messages and apps you can not deploy this backup on a different ROM (specially if it is different AKU version or different OS 5 / 6) without serios side effects.
This is because some internal structures (like PIM.VOL) and registry settings are different in these ROMS.
Thats why it is recommended that you backup your contacts, emails and stuff to outlook then sync and reinstall all the apps on the new ROM.
Alternatively, both apps allow you to manually select what is backed up. You can play with that option to only backup "generic" stuff.

Understood.
What I was hoping to find is a utility that takes a snapshot of my current setup and creates one file, or one EXE. It's kinda like swapping hard drives with each having a different OS's. I'd have one "favorite" ROM though (with my personal settings, including keyboard layout, ringtones, contacts, WiFi key info, voice commands, etc) and if I'm done testing someone else's ROM, I can reload that 'favorite' one to continue on with my day, all with one flash.

problem is that many difference between roms also is what registrys are set to what
so if you take that with you some optimezes could be lost

Really?
I've used an old program called PQDI (just like Norton Ghost) and what I'd do is after doing a fresh load of OS on my PC, I'd start to load some of my favorite software like Premiere (I do video editing) and Sonar (I also do music). Then, I create a disk image of my hard drive. Months later, after installing tweaks and stuff, and if for some reason (and this has happened before) I screw up my registry, get a virus, or my PC starts to run slow because of junk that have collected over the months, I'd reload that image and the very next time I turn on my PC, it would have a fresh load of OS with Premiere and Sonar, and nothing else, it's just as if I had bought a new computer.
I was hoping it would be the same on my 8525. There is a feature right now called "Clear Storage" (installed on every WM device) that clears up every things and reloads the ROM. But that erases all the tweaks you've done and starts you off with a fresh load of ROM. :/

Ok, there is one thing you don't seem to be clear on:
On PC stuff you install and OS all can be treated the same because they all reside on an HD and if you can take and image of that you can restore it all whenever you want.
But on devices like the 8525 this is completely different. The ROM on each device is stored and encrypted in a different matter, and needs to be written in a special way so there can be no "generic" tool for ROM flashing. This is also why there are no apps that take complete image of a device (ROM + user apps and data).

Thanks for the clarification. It would have been great if there was, huh? That would make beta testing and reporting much more efficient. Oh well. I'll move on. Thanks again! (Hmm...now what ROM should I try next...)

Preload Google Maps images and maps -> Mobile GMaps!

Hi guys,
I wrote a guide for installing Mobile GMaps on another forum.
I'll paste it here also and I hope it will be of some help for somebody.
Problem:
I have tried Google Maps for Mobile. Gorgeous. Unfortunately requires a connection and there is no possibility so far of saving maps :-(
Solution:
Mobile GMaps. http://www.mgmaps.com
It's a java application that load maps from different providers (yahoo, Windows live, google, ask.com and some others). It has a GUI really similar to Google Maps and it runs smoothly on my tornado (sp5) even if it is a java application. It has some features that Google does not have but it does not have the positioning system without GPS based on radio cell tracking (whereas Google has it).
Here it's the guide. As always I'm not responsible for any loss of data, for any fees you might pay for air data connection and for any alien invasion.
I do suggest to take a look to the step by step guide.
Quick start
Install Application
1. Install a java virtual machine (j2me) on your smartphone. I used JBed: http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/Jbed.rar
2. Download the application: http://wap.mgmaps.com/mgmaps-signed.jad and http://wap.mgmaps.com/mgmaps.jad and copy them in the root of the smartphone
3. Install the application (signed) using JBed
Download the maps
4. Setup the area of the map you want to download using http://www.mgmaps.com/create/
5. Install gMapMaker on your PC: http://www.mgmaps.com/cache/gMapMaker-setup.exe
6. Download the maps on your PC using gMapMaker and the map file you created in step 4
7. Copy the maps on your smartphone.
8. Setup Mobile GMaps in order to pick up the stored Map ("Settings" -> "Map Browsing", enable "Stored Maps", enter the path to your maps in "Storage Path", enable "Offline mode")
Step by Step
1. You need a java virtual machine. I followed this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339577
You can choose among different j2me http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletB...ityAndMain.html
I ended up on choosing Esmertec Jbed. I had no problem in installing on my smartphone (wm6) on the storage card.
Here it's the link: http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/Jbed.rar
On the Mobile GMaps website they suggest the one from IBM but you need to register. If you wanna go with IBM's follow this guide: http://www.mgmaps.com/winset/
2. Now you need the actual application. The generic version can be found here: http://wap.mgmaps.com/get.php?version=13&a...submit=Download
Basically you need the jad file (_signed_) and the jar file. Copy both of them with Active sync in the root of your smartphone.
3. Launch Esmertec Jbed. Select "Menu" -> "Install" -> "Local Files". Then select "mgmaps-signed". Follow the installation instruction basically agreeing on everything ;-).
It will ask to launch the Midlet and it will ask for many authorizations for accessing internet. This is the first time the application is running and it is retrieving all the information on the web. Thus, I strongly suggest to have the smartphone connected with activesync on a computer with internet connection. This will avoid the use of GPRS connection.
The application now should correctly running but it does not have any map saved locally yet. Note that the jar and jad files that you have copied on your smartphone can now be removed.
4. To download the map you are interested in go to this website:
http://www.mgmaps.com/create/
Choose the area that you need to pick up (just click on the map to form a polygon). Try not to exaggerate since the more you pick the more you'll have to save on your smartphone. I chose the downtown area of a fairly big canadian city and it took me 13MB for only the map without the satellite images (not bad at the end).
In this website you can choose how many zoom levels you want (given 0 the view of the world and 17 the closest zoom). Level of detail is nothing related to the detail of the map but rather how is gonna be tiled the area you have chosen.
Click "Generate!" and this will create a file containing the coordinates of the area you have chosen.
5. Install "gMapMaker" on your PC in order to download the maps. You can find it here: http://www.mgmaps.com/cache/gMapMaker-setup.exe
For more informations about the installation refer to this: http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?t=1116
6. Launch gMapMaker. Choose the download folder (where your maps will be saved).
Operating mode has to be set to "MGMaps mode, use a .map file".
Pay attention that if you are downloading also satellite images your ip might be temporarily banned by google. In this case use the proxy (see guide linked at step 5).
Click on "Go!" and load the file you have generated in step 4.
The maps now are going to be downloaded.
7. Copy the maps with Active Sync in a folder on your smartphone.
8. Launch again Mobile GMaps. Click on "Menu" (left soft key). Select "Settings" -> "Map Browsing". Enable "Stored Maps".
Choose a folder from "Storage Path". The application will ask again for authorization for reading local files. You should give the authorization and tell him not to ask anymore. Note that if you have not installed from the signed application there is not possibility to tell him to shut up ;-)
You might want also to enable "Offline mode": "the phone will use the internet connection only for searches or GPS tracking, and never for retrieving any map tiles" (read second post here: http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?p=3162 ).
You will be asked to restart the application. Done!!!!
Hope you will enjoy it!!!!
[Damn!!! I hoped the guide would have been shorter!!!]

Thanks for the guide! I have also been playing around with MGMAPS for a while and got it to work with IBM's J9 decently. Unfortunately it doesn't give highres output for some reason, but GPS is working with that midlet manager. Did you somehow manage to connect a GPS unit with JBED? Mine keeps telling me that no GPS is abailable.

I'm sorry but I don't have a GPS
If with highres output you mean QVGA then JBed does the job. It does have only a small problem (as pointed out here: http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/CompatibilityAndMain.html) _before_ launching the application:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/GmailVoxInvisibleBottom.png

how do i uninstall gMapMaker from my PC? there isnt an uninstall option and it isnt located in add/remove programs under control panel.

@NguyenHuu: You don't need to uninstall it - it never registers anything outside of the folder where you put it and you can just delete all the files to completely get rid of it.
@soalle: I meant 640x480 resolution which JBED does fine, but with IBM's J9 something seems to go wrong as the maps are indeed QVGA. The difference is quite visible and so I hope that I can get it to run in the higher resolution with GPS. QVGA + GPS is second choice as with being able to track your location the program becomes a true lifesaver (I'm in Japan right now and mobile data is expensive as hell for WM devices). ANd thank you for the great overview - I didn't know that page yet. Seems as if there's not much hope for now... Nokia sure shows how midlets should be run with the N95 - shame on MS for not including a decent midlet manager.

Thanks. That is what I figured and deleted it before you responded, haha. Just to be safe I kept a copy of the install incase I needed to reinstall before I can uninstall again if that caused any problems.
The program itself has great potential, but it requires a good amount of work to map out everything precisely. Even though, I will keep this as a backup for future use. Thanks for the tutorial.

I usually stick with roughly sketched city maps (zoom level 17) as everything larger above zoom level 16 gets too big anyway. No need to see FAT32 choke with 200.000 files It would be great if they could find a way to store multiple tiles in larger container files, but it seems to be impossible as the developer stated in a forum post on his page.

Falk said:
@soalle: I meant 640x480 resolution which JBED does fine, but with IBM's J9 something seems to go wrong as the maps are indeed QVGA.
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Does JBed work for GPS + highres? Have you tried it?

does it work on ppc phones? i have xda orbit [ htc p3300 ] with inbuilt gps receiver and it always throws no gps error.
does anyone know how to overcome this issue?
i am having my device running on WM6.
thanks

I don't have a ppc with GPS so I cannot really help you sorry... try to look for the answer on the forum of mobilegmaps...

so with this do you need GPS ?
or have i been reading it all wrong ?

sorry for the late reply... i have been in vacations for a while ;-)
So no need of GPS, but clearly it won't give you your position ;-) Obviously you can still use it for browsing maps.

didnt work for me

it doesnt even detects my gps (

MGMAps and Internal GPS
Hi,
My internal gps does not work with MGMAPS. Is there any workaround to the same. I have a HTC P3300 with Windows mobile 6 and internal GPS. It works on COM4 port Kindly help
Regards,
Kailash

Do we have to copy cache folder in a memory card. My cache folder is now 980 mb size on disk and it contains 242946 files and 701 folders

This worked for me.. I tried it several months ago. However, it seems the maps get saves in SOOO many small files that the file nodes take up much more space than the actual data. Storing the whole US at any reasonable zoom level is impossible on my 6Gb card, and would take forever to download anyway.

gmap
this is seriously very very good. Just love it.
I have just done some testing with googlemaps and yahoo.
This application is very good indeed, it works very well, it is also rather fast.
You can also spare a lot of money on traffic with it.
Thank you very much

I have downloaded the Maps perfectly fine and have everything sorted out but I just cant get the actual application installed.
I have downloaded both of the Jar and Jad files, and I am attempting to run the Signed-Jar file however when I get so far through the installation on my XDA Orbit it comes to the error message: "File Error ???".
Is there any way of getting by this?
Any help is appreciated

A solution for the internal GPS issue (For example P3300) which couldn't be used with mgmaps has been made. Found it out yesterday. You can find it on the mgmaps forum at http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?t=1829&highlight=p3300 .tried it out on my P3300 and works as a charm!

A Few Noob Questions

Hello,
I am a new AT&T Fuze owner and new in general to Windows Mobile "Professional". (Had a Symbian 60 Device Previously) I have been doing extensive reading and researching to figure out how to accomplish my goals but I keep running into dead ends. I have been searching forums and Google but I find that most information is formatted for people that have been in the community for a long time and understand all of the jargon. There seems to be so many flavors of windows and platforms that it makes my head spin and I also find that words like Smartphone, Pocket PC, Window CE, etc.. are thrown around very loosely.
Sorry for the preamble. Here is what I know so far.
Device = AT&T Fuze
CE OS 5.2.19971 (Build 19971.1.2.6)
CID = HTC_P4600 (Not listed in the WIKI here)
ROM = 1.95.502..5 WWE (10/20/08)
Radio = 1.02.25.32
Protocol = 52.39c.25.22h
First I was wondering if there was a positive way of knowing if a certain piece of software will work with my device and what that spec would be. Like does it go by windows version, phone version, both? Or at least some general rules of thumb what to take note of before trying a piece of software. (If it was designed for or works on other flavors of Raphael is it safe to try?)
My biggest problem at the moment is I can't seem to install anything anymore. I am getting a message about unsigned cabs or files missing. I'm hoping this wasn't something I did but it's a possibility. Some software "PPCPimBackup.exe" will still install but most won't like "Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab". I even tried to make a simple .cab using CeRegEditor to adjust the city string for the weather tab in TF3D. Any help here would be most appreciated. I am very weary of all these so called "unlockers" out there and even read a thread here where someone bricked their device by installing the wrong software for the device.
Is the Fuze the same as the Diamond? (They look identical)
What is the preferred way to back up the entire device or is it even possible with standard software? Most of what I found backs up PIM info.
When a program (Taskmanager 3.1) says to minimize, where does it go? How do you bring it back to the foreground or do you have to install a taskbar manager?
I actually have more I want to ask but that probably wouldn't be prudent. I think if I could help myself better once I understand what software I can and can't use with my phone.
Many thanks in advance and apologize for noobing up your forum =P
Eidolen

I'll try to answer some of your questions.
1) Normally, software will say windows mobile 5 or 6 as a requirement along with maybe .Net Framework. If it's for Windows Mobile most likely it'll work. Just have to try it and see.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
3) The Fuze is similar to the Diamond but don't go trying to install ROMs that are made for the Diamond. Use the ones in the Raphael forums.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
Hope that helps somewhat.

Wow,
Thanks you for the quick and non condescending reply. I've been surfing more since I posted and hopefully I could get you to elaborate on a few things.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
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I did the .Net install and it went without a hitch but still no joy. I noticed on the authors support forums that others are having the same problem but no clear solution has been posted. /Sigh
I was thinking I needed to follow a procedure similar to the one listed here where you have to install a certificate and make some policy changes in the registry but since I can't find any info specifically for the Fuze I haven't done anything yet other than download the certificate that was linked in that post.
I should mention I am not a complete computer illiterate, and am fully comfortable with the registry and even more advanced techniques if necessary. I should also mention that I don't plan on replacing my rom at all. Just want to keep it to basic reg hacks, software installs, and some theming once I get things working the way I want.
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
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Thanks, I will check this out. Sounds like exactly what I was looking for.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
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I understand what you said but what I was trying to figure out is how to recall it from the background. It doesn't show up in the TF3D task list when it's minimized so I was wondering if you had to click on the task bar or do some certain trick to bring it to the fore-front. The ability to move between programs easily is my biggest gripe so far as I seem to have to open and close the keyboard, hit home or back a lot to move around. I would love the ability to hit some hot key or some secret spot on the screen to launch taskmanager and then I could use it to go to whatever program I wanted.
I have seen a few bugs in TM_3.1 that cause crashes, but it is an awesome program and hopefully the developer will keep working out the bugs. If there is another program you would recommend that accomplished the same type of functionality I'd be interested in trying it out.
Thanks again for your friendly help.
Eidolen
Just looked at the contents of that cab referenced from that link I posted. It is just a Setup.xml file with the following contents.
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="SecurityPolicy">
<parm name="4119" value="144"/>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
Any thoughts?

As for .Net, the following is from Modaco, and I found that it worked like a charm:
How to install and use .NET Compact Framework 3.5
If you're a developer or have knowledge of .net Compact Framework, you'll be aware that version 3.5 has shipped. You'll be aware that it offers a number of enhancements in features, stability and performance, and you'll likely also know that it provides full backwards compatability with previous versions of the Compact Framework. What you may NOT know is that when CF 3.5 is installed on a device, applications that target previous versions of the Compact Framework will continue to run against the old versions, and 3.5 and previous versions will live side by side on the device. Only when new devices come along will we see ONLY 3.5 on a device.
This presents a number of problems, namely
• Users who deploy CF 3.5 to their device but use applications targeting older versions will not benefit from the 3.5 performance improvements
• Developers who develop apps for pre CF 3.5 frameworks cannot easily test their applications ready for when 3.5 only devices come along
Thankfully, help is at hand in the form of a little known Compact Framework 3.5 powertoy named '.Net Configuration'. The application, which is available at Microsoft, provides the user with full granularity of control over the .net CF on their device. You can see installed versions, change the used CF version for a particular application or change the used CF version for all applications run on your device! Perfect!
Sadly in Microsoft's infinite wisdom the application in question is tucked away in simple EXE inside the 6.2MB download and somewhat hard to find, so i've taken the liberty of packaging it up into a CAB here that installs it with it's own Start Menu shortcut.
- Run '.Net Configuration' from your Start Menu
- Navigate to the 'Device Policy' tab and select version 3.5
- Select 'Apply' then 'OK'
That's it, you're done!

Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
As I've stated I have not made any attempts to unlock anything yet but have installed some software and made some registry tweaks. I wish I could see what exactly is happening like Procmon does for windows to pinpoint the problem, but I might just have to resort to a hard reset if I can't figure it out.
I'm open to any ideas but if I don't figure it out tonight I guess I'll reset tomorrow. Thanks for the guidance and help.
Cheers,
Eidolen

@eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.

eidolen said:
Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
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eidolen said:
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
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You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....

eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
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I ordered my SD card yesterday =/ Hopefully be here soon. Still very interested in the 101 though!
You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
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Yeah I gave that a shot but no joy. That wasn't the only reg hack I did but the only relating to "Unlocking". I haven't touched anything I wasn't pretty sure about. For instance I have looked at all the tweaks for speeding up the TF3D using cache setting but the numbers don't match so I never tried it. If I didn't understand what the tweak was I stayed away.
I did the PTT button tweak for voice/camera and played around with the cities for the weather app. Other than that I can't think of anything else I touched in the registry but I did a lot of looking.
On the other hand I have installed a good bit of software to try out. I have also rearranged my menu items by deleting shortcuts in the start menu folder. Even though I've done a good bit to the phone I think it might be best to start from scratch with a hard reset and start again with the knowledge I've gained in the past few days. My Opera browser has been getting a real workout with 40+ tabs going =P
I did find another thread here that has someone with a similar problem but the way it happened was entirely different. His fix was to wipe the phone and use the same software I was trying to install when I found this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3038792#post3038792
I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
I can't believe how helpful everyone's been so far considering this is a developers board. I figured it was worth the risk to get chewed in the hopes of getting the best advice. With all the info surfing I've been doing it's clear that this is the site where it all happens.
Cheers and thanks again,
Eidolen

OMG!
I'm almost too afraid to admit it but at least I feel good that I figured it out on my own. I was smart enough to make a backup of the registry with CeRedEditor before doing anything major and remembered it had a compare feature. After loading it up It immediately occurred to me to look at HKCR\cabfile and that's where I found my answer.
I had downloaded a little free utility from SKTools called Cabinstaller that allows you to choose where programs get installed. Somehow the registry entry it made didn't correctly point to the executable. In any case I think I installed it late the other night and forgot about it because the exe files I installed after that installed fine. I should have tested it immediately and I wouldn't have had this problem. /sigh
Thank you everyone for the help and ideas and even though I've fixed this problem I still might do a full reset and start from scratch now that I got all mentally prepared to do it and start over feeling a little more confident in what I'm doing.
While it's on my mind right now and since I never got a solution for the question in my first post, is there a hack or small little program that will allow you to put a shortcut in either the top bar where the start menu is or in the bottom where the shortcut for the on screen keyboard is so I can invoke the Task Manager easily to help with navigating? I wouldn't even be opposed to a shortcut in the TF3D pop-up you get when clicking on the top right bar. It would be great if this could be done with a bloated program but not opposed to it if the program is useful.
Thanks again everyone. I guess I'll start a new post for any new questions. (I have lots but will try and figure out as much as I can by myself first.)
Cheers,
Eidolen

eidolen said:
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I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
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I think you're probably right about starting again from scratch. It would probably be less work than tracking down what's causing your problem and then you'll be starting with a cleaner slate for installing everything going forward.
There are a few different threads on here about what constitutes "must have" apps for the Fuze and the one thing I can say is that no two people agree on the list! Your best bet is to seach out those threads and see which ones you think would be most useful to you. A great place to get started is at http://www.blownfuze.org using username and password 'xda' (without the quotes)
My suggestions for the generic must haves are:
Total Commander
PHM Registry Editor (or whichever reg editor you prefer)
Diamond Tweak
Diamond TF3D Config
Other basic programs that might be worth checking out depending on what you do on your fuze are:
PocketShield or S2U2 for locking the phone
TCPMP Core Media Player
TorchButton for using the LED flash as a flashlight
BeyondPod or pRSS Reader for RSS feeds and podcasts
GoogleMaps and/or Live Search
Good luck!

Sprite backup is included in your Fuze as original software. I always keep a full backup copy on my Sd card of a good clean WM 6.1 install with all the must have tweaks done already. You will find it saves alot of headaches when you mess something up trying things out. After that I do a weekly backup as I add more and more stuff over time.

does diamond TF3D Config or diamond tweak work with this ROM version?

Thanks yzf750, I am preparing to do just that. I am getting prepared for a hard reset now once I notate what I want to keep that's on my phone already. Hopefully I can get it set up by the time my SD card arrives this coming week and can do the backup to it for keeps.
I read a blog post about doing a soft reset after a hard reset to prevent the ATT software from installing and I think I really want to try that. I just need to make sure I install the stuff I want to keep like TF3D manually afterwards. I'm hoping to find a more detailed guide for the procedure than what was posted though.
I'll post back and report if the smoke genie escapes or not.
Eidolen

some n00b guidance
Ok so i have been looking at these forums for a few days now doing homework before i even get the phone(its ordered). So my questions are
1. if i have AT&T unlock the phone(i know someone who works there so i hope they can help out) do i still need to do the hardspl to change radios etc?
2. Whats really the difference between all these roms built by users and just using BuildOS(im assuming this works on GSM phones and not just CDMA because its from PPC) to build your own ROM? and do most of these tweeks come prebuilt into these roms or do u still need to to other stuff? i.e reg tweaks etc, like i think it would be better for me to just build a rom with BuildOS with the apps i want etc and not keep flashing all the time
3. Is GPS still a problem for people?, i think ill just use tomtom or garmin and hope for the best as its not a huge concern. After looking around i guess its just a matter of finding the radio that works best for the individual, so anyone in the .US new england area have any recommendations of the best radio in the northeast like NYC area?
4. whats a good order to do this stuff?, i plan on using the phone for a couple days or so as stock just to get the general feel of the OS in general. then prolly flash the ROM with a custom BuildOS ROM(unless someone can provide the difference between BuildOS and say PROven ROM), then do w.e else needs to be done. ive seen the recommeded tweaks, just not sure if they still need to be done with a flashed ROM. not really looking for a game phone more office apps like RDP and irc etc, sys admin tools
Basically i think theres just a ton of info on here which is a good thing but im just getting started on Winmo although flashing etc dosent intimidate me so im eager to get started just a little unclear on some things and cant seem to find the answer just surfing, so any help or links to some stuff i might have missed is appreciated. Pretty much just want a smooth runnin ROM thats not stock of course, decent gps reception and the apps i want. thanks all

Look here, I made a little write-up for the basics using a stock ATT ROM. I ran this routine actually twice on my phone (ROM flashing junkie) so it should be fairly complete.
I have to note that, in most cases at least, I know what I do and can "recover" from a ROM flash within ~ 30 minutes, having all software, tweaks and contacts restored.
Regarding ROMs
That's an open can of worms with two next to it waiting. Read the threads and read the problems and decide later if you want to flash or not. If you are not used to WinMo phones it's perhaps better to hold back a week or two.
Some ROMs are built from original Raphael builts others are based on WinMo 6.1 but contain partially applications and tweaks from other HTC devices. The latest build # need not to be the best. For example RRE's ROM is based on the original ATT ROM and he created a really nice good performing ROM while other Chefs rip out first all guts and basics of a ROM (making it "naked") adding features and programs later. That's a more or less political discussion what's better and what's not and you have to decide yourself based on what you read and/or experience. For MY part I know Monx/HT from the Tilt times and always appreciated his work and speedy ROMs and he continued the same line on the Raphael/Fuze though it took him some time to come where he is right now.
As said all political in that regards, almost all ROMs out there ARE GOOD and have advantages in the one or the other area.
Tweaks
Yes the tweaks work even for a stock ATT ROM with ATT's TouchFlo/Manila (though I think it's plain ugly).
GPS
Again a difficult subject. For example the stock GPS (enabled or disabled assisted GPS settings) works kinda well with google maps BUT doesn't perform as expected with 3rd party GPS apps (TomTom, iGO). Keep in mind a lot came from other devices and for example iGO on the Tilt rocked down to the street number with no lag at all where the Fuze is doing more "guesstimating" than performing (compared to the Tilt).
Backup
Do a PIM backup once or twice a week and do a FULL backup once a week or if you installed new software after you confirm that you like it. If you wreck your phone for whatever reason AND you stay with the SAME ROM a full restore will work.

Just Wow!
That's an impressive piece of work there. I haven't stopped reading or poking around while I'm waiting for my SD card to get here and had quite some experience today. I did read the thread regarding doing a "Non-Bloat" Install and actually started to do it but stopped when I realized there still seems to be some residual bugs to the process. I figured for now even with the little bit of confidence I've gained I'd wait on that a little longer.
I did jot some info down while it was still "Bloat-Free" for anyone interested:
Bloatfree Services:
App Service APP1:
USSD APP8:
Push to Talk PTT0:
EnlargeStartMenuEMX0:
HTC IMS service IMS0:
STK Service AP15:
LargeTitleBar AP21:
HtcServices HSV2:
Keypad KBD1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server ASV0:
Software Management Service SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine CES0:
SNApi SNA0:
DPT DPY0:
LAS LAS0:
Credential Manager CRD0:
Notify NFY0:
OBEX OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader BHL0:
SqmUpload SQM0:
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Click to collapse
Bloatfree Processes:
NK.exe
RegistryCSPTool.exe
OperaPreL.exe
poutlook.exe
sapsettings.exe
opera9.exe
htcimssvc.exe
tmail.exe
cecmd.exe <--Total Commander
conmgr.exe
TaskMgr.exe <--duh
rapiclnt.exe
repllog.exe <--activesync
biotouch.exe
shell32.exe
QuickGPS.exe
VoiceCMD.exe
SIPGT_app.exe
services.exe
filesys.exe
gwes.exe
manilla.exe
device.exe
cprog.exe
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Click to collapse
I forgot to check the memory and storage readings sadly but I figured this list could be checked against the full bloat version to see what processes and services could be killed. I figured I'd play with a full working install so if anything didn't work I would know it was from myself or software I installed instead of guessing if it was a side effect of the no bloat process. Also I could learn what the bloat was and strip it away.
Once I decided on Bloat I started a Log/Diary of everything I did for my own reference and thought it might be useful for troubleshooting later. Everything was going smooth until I decided to take on the behemoth named RealVGA.
Luckily I made a full Sprite backup previous to playing with it and am reinstalling that backup as I write this.
If there is one piece of advice I could give from the little knowledge I've gained so far is that most of the upper-end hacks/tweaks software that is available are living breathing complex entities and are not to be taken lightly. Each one needs to be thoroughly researched and understood before using unless you have an older device that has been supported for a long time. I find very little information on using most software regarding the Fuze even though it is very similar to other devices. Truth is, it is not identical which can make things hairy at times. Anyway the more you fail, the more you learn.
For other Fuze owners out there I'll post my personal log so you have an idea what programs I had trouble with and what I tried to do to resolve them. For sure I had huge problems with RealVGA as well as PocketCM and PocketCm Keyboard. It's a shame too as they all are outstanding upgrades.
Well I think I'll be ready for your tutorial when my card gets here so I will be sure to report back to let you know how it went. I already learned a lot just from reading it. For one I didn't know you could do anything over usb if you cancelled the ActiveSync. I just used that trick while restoring my phone and still haven't done a sync. I'm sure that guide will be a huge help to many like myself.
Huge Thanks!
Eidolen
PHP:

Diary of a Blown Fuze (Blown Attempt that is)
Just a stream of consisnous, sorry if some doesn't make sense
Log got more vebose as I went.
"Fresh Bloated Install"
Boot
Set Weather City
Configure WiFi
Calibrate G-Sensor
==================================
Memory:
Storage======Program
Total 294.53 || Total 200.99
In Use 74.05 || In Use 70.93
Free 220.48 || Free 130.06
==================================
Turn off Auto Backlight - Adjusted Settings
Removed Programs - I Play Jewel
Configured all settings under "All Settings" tab
=====================================================
Having keyboard problems where it is unresponsive. Had to use on-screen KB
to write user information. Also had KB lag a few times afterwards but not
as severe.
=====================================================
SYNC (Merged 89 file items)
Install NETCFSetupv35.msi
Install netcfcfg.cab
Install tcmdpocketarm.cab
Configured .Net to use 3.5
Installed Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab
Create Sprite Backup "Fresh Install" ACT3.3 not config yet
=========================================================
Phone supplied Sprite backup software reported "backing up 85mb" but when finished
the file is only 144kb! Not sure what happened. Will try to initiate
a backup from the desktop software.
=========================================================
Initiated Full Desktop Version backup "Fresh Install 2 FULL" 93.03M
Ended with file size of 60.3M
**********************************************************
Configure Advanced Config Tool:
User Interface ->
Horizontal Icon Spacing: 150
Vertical Icon Spacing: 140
Icon title font size: 8
Popup Menu Font Size: 800
Power Management ->
All either default or "Advised" setting if applicable
Screen ->
Show Orientation: Yes (default)
Keyboard Backlight Timeout: 15sec
Suggested Words: 3
Network ->
Device friendly Name: #####
Phone ->
Show All Call History: Yes
Call History Clean: Never
Show Battery Icon: Yes
Show Band: Yes
Bluetooth ->
BT Device Name: #####
GPS ->
Logfile Size: 32K
Internet Explorer ->
4 Way Navigation: Disabled
Clear Type: Enabled
Search Page: Google
Max Connections Per Server: 8
Messaging ->
SMS Delivery Notification: Yes
Use Unicode Support: Yes
Symc Sent Items: Yes
Show Roaming: Yes
Calendar ->
Show Lunar: Yes
Show Events in Week View: Yes
Camera ->
Capture Key Delay: Enabled
Key Delay: Enabled
HTC Animation ->
Volume: 90
HTC Camera Album ->
OK Button: Close
Misc:
Auto Daylight Savings Switch: Yes
Show Daylight Savings Notification: Yes
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Noticed lots of options missing from last time I used this program before the hard reset like more font sizes among other things>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
**************************************************************
Sprite Resore "PIM_2008-12-13.exe" PIM info Only
Contacts Restored but no TF3D settings were retained
(No contacts in TF3D, Messages, etc..)
Set up both email accounts
Set Up online AB LDAP
Adjusted Camera Settings
Copied My Pictures,Notes, Ringtones, PTT shortcuts and other "Files" back to device using Sprite Explorer File=2008-12-14.exe
Extracted "Browser Favorites" From Sprite Explorer /System Settings 2008-12-14.exe
Hand Edit Opera.ini
Transferred Some opera files (wand.dat, cookies, images) using Sprite Explorer 2008-12-14.exe
Transferred a pantload of s/w to be installed
Installed Diamond_TF3D_Config_Setup_v0.6.7.cab
(Made speed adjustments and removed Worldcard and "Unknown" TAB. Also "Unlocked" Noticed program launcher shows a ton of empty entries.)
Install ResPack128dpi.ARM.CAB
Install ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB
(Sprite backup crashed on reboot from ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB)
InstallRealVGA_11.CAB
Install missing ipxxx.dll's and screen went black then rebooted
**** my Pants *chant* no-brick no-brick no-brick
Watched it reboot. Something crashed but then TF3D loaded with tiny fonts!! (128dpi)
Modified Menu Icon spacing for 4 in a row. (Want to tweak further if I keep RealVGA)
=================================================================================
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\
Add New Key "IconConfig"
In there Add DWORD Value:
"HorizontalIconSpacing" Dec value="112"
"VerticalIconSpacing" Dec value="115"
"IconTitleFontSize" Dec value="6"
==================================================================================
Notice a small black band on TF3D screens at the bottom. Acts as part of the tabs
Total commander toggle icon bar does not fully open up.
Contact all people link does not work
Contacts from Start Menu does not Work
Phone does not work
Installed respack96outlookfix.cab and Changed to 96 DPI now contacts and phone works!!
Adding Contacts in TF3D very buggy, auto puts in a picture somehow and have to go back and change it.
NVM...It selects the pics I had assigned before the reset somehow. Cool!
On Screen Keyboards Very Borked (Only Partially Visiable) Trying PocketCM Keyboard for VGA *Crosses Fingers*
It works but no colors, just plain Gray *humph!*
===============================================================
Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 25
V Scroll Width: 25
H Arrow Size: 32
V Arrow Size: 32
Icon Title Font Size: 16 (Was 6)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
===============================================================
Reset
Home TF3D Screen buggy, Tabs at bottom are doubled up. Clears when used to scroll but large black bar at bottom now
Wow! TF3D Communtications screen is really toast! It shows in upper left screen and at least it works but it's almost unreadable.
Not noticing any change in fonts so far
"All Settings" Won't Launch. Ouch!
Umm, System Locked up hard
Tried sliding keyboard and heard sound and title bars appreared but no luck, home and back not work either
It let me reboot with switch at least, not reset button
Tried Unticking "Disable Skin" in RealVGA
Reboot
"All Settings" Still Borked
reboot
Start Menu -> settings locks up too *cry*
Reboot!
Maybe result of font settings in ACT?
Might be time to do a restore =(
===============================================================
Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 19
V Scroll Width: 19
H Arrow Size: 20 (default)
V Arrow Size: 20 (default)
Icon Title Font Size: 10 (Was 16)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
===============================================================
Reboot
RealVGA is nice but not sure it's worth this effort. Just too many problems.
Noticed graphics in TF3D are much slower and laggy now as well.
"All Settings" still borked Not sure what else to try at this point.
Good info on this subject is hard to come by. Most ppl seem to have good luck with this app.
Went to re-tick the skin option in RealVGA but it was still ticked. hmmm
What I think is needed is an app that could swap resolutions on the fly with a hotkey. ( Prolly not technically possible)
At least you could have normal usage and only use for certain apps that really benefit from it.
After another reboot the "Disable phone skin" is checked again. Guess it can't be unticked.
Un-ticked "No enlarge title Bar" in Diamond TF3D Config
I am able to open the "Programs" link from the start menu, wonder why settings is screwed.
Tried settings again, no joy, was able to use home key though this time. Not locked up.
Start menu does not work now though. Yikes, had to use reset this time.
Throws arms in the air!
Hard Reset =(

You are funny eidolen.
If you want copy the files I provided to your device (since you don't have a DS yet) and play with it.
You'll hard reset anyway when the SD arrives - LOL

Your also going to find at some point that the more and more tweaks and modifications you make,more problems will start sufacing. I was a rom flashing junkie like many on this forum for 2 years. Since I replaced my prior phone with the Fuze I am running just the stock rom without bloatware and a FEW select tweaks (includes radio change). It runs fast, works good and I dont have to soft reset it all the time.
Take a look at every custom rom, Im not putting any of them down, but after time the threads on them become 100 plus pages long, the number of other fixes to get them running right become impossible to keep track of. It becomes a daily job of just trying to keep that rom working without breaking some other feature or getting it to work right. They put out weekly fixes on most custom roms. They start out with the right intention, but it soon becomes just a bloated non oem rom after time.
Its addicting and fun, but at some point a person just wants to use the phone instead of hard resetting it all the time, flashing roms nightly and trying to figure out how to fix stuff in each rom.
I reached that point now and my fuze is outstanding without having to spend days tinkering with it. It is snappy, reponsive and ALL the software I have installed on it works, and the GPS works flawlessly even inside my house.
But again, your "hands on" approch as your doing now, is probaly the best way to learn

teh bestest
between these last few posts and my little chat with our neighbors PPC on there irc channel i am pretty confident i know what the deal is now, you guys have been a great help, i think im going to play a bit with some roms of course but eventually land on a bloat free standard rom with some added apps like putty and irc etc for sysadmin work, on that note yzf750 could u tell me exactally what u have running on yours sounds like its what im looking for.

ATT Fuze NEWBs only - Little setup guide (Touch up 02/10/09)

Touched up some stuff that you don't have to click around through the whole thread. All LINKS are now in a separate post (#349) found here.
Edit 02/16/09 - Performance tweaks
How to make a stock Fuze ATT nice unbloated and performing reasonably well?
Lately several NEWB threads popped up and got answered individually which is very hard to track.
I thought I make a small write up what can be done with the stock ATT ROM without unlocking the phone and still have a decent device. Assumptions are that you don’t want/need the “goodies” supplied by ATT (called bloatware) and that you are willing to do some customization yourself. This is not in any disrespect to any ROM developer but I think some NEWBs are simply scared to tinker from day one with their device as in unlocking (SIM/Security unlock) and flashing several ROMs without really knowing what they are doing. They’ll do this later as soon as they are accustomed to their new shiny black fingerprint magnet.
NEWBs don’t forget that a lot of people here in the XDA community have a fairly good experience with HTC phones and come to the Raphael/Fuze through numerous other HTC devices (Tilt/Trinity etc. etc.) and know most of not all quirks and risks involved with flashing and hacking.
What you need:
PC with active sync working (I’m not a MAC guy so some may chime in)
SD card (highly suggested)
Basic understanding what a soft- and hard reset is
Quiet time (put kids, girlfriends, wives away for an hour or two) a good espresso, coke or coffee.
Installing stock ATT ROM without bloatware:
If you power on your device the first time you will be asked to align the screen, play with cut and paste, set a password. AFTER this step a large window will appear that the device will customize in a few seconds. At THAT MOMENT soft reset with the stylus in the reset hole. This will NOT install all ATT bloatware and will NOT install ATT’s version of TouchFlo3D (aka Manila). I bet that you will fail the first time, so look at the little ATT flyer where HARD RESET is explained and simply do it again. Hard reset will wipe out all you personal data. Not a big deal right now since you have none.
If you were successful you will have a green screen with some information on it.
Preparation:
<Settings – Personal – Menus> Take everything OUT beside the “File Explorer”
<Settings – Personal - Today – Items> take ALL checkmarks out, NOTHING should be checked.
Switch your phone off and back on, your start menu should be empty and showing “Today/File Explorer/Programs/Settings” that’s all you need right now!
Download the file in the provided link at the end and unzip to your PC.
Connect to a PC using active sync (you actually need not to sync, just to connect so say “cancel” and do not establish a partnership).
In active sync go to explore “MyWindows-MobileBasedDevice”, double click and double click on “Storage Card”. Create a new folder (File - New – Folder).
I call mine “@ESSENTIALS” that it appears right in top regardless what will be installed later. Copy all files to your storage card under the newly created folder.
My package includes an OEM Manila and all basic tools to setup your device. Credit goes to all original creators (too many to list).
Installation:
Open the File Explorer on your device and go to Storage Card “@essentials” /ManilaOEM tab on Manila animation and install ON DEVICE not storage card!
The phone will say it’s an untrusted application confirm with YES (we’ll take care of this later).
Phone will request a reboot, if not, reboot manually (power off/on).
After reboot you will have a basic Manila, do NOT play with it yet!
Open File Explorer on your device and go to the NetCF folder on the storage card and install NETCFv35.wm.armv4i on the device.
Go to the Config folder and install ALL applications which are listed there (Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3/Diamond TF3D Config Setup v0.6.7/Diamond Tweak 0.5.3_English).
Power off/on you phone
Go to Programs and Advanced Config Tool (acknowledge the warning and check the box that it doesn’t appear in the future).
Perform the following changes:
User interface – Nothing
Today – Nothing
Performances – File system cache enabled / Cache size 2MB / Filter cache 4096 / Glyph cache 32 KB
Power Management – Nothing
Screen – Nothing
Input – Keyboard backlight timeout 30 seconds
Network – Nothing
Phone – Show Band page YES
Bluetooth – Nothing
GPS – Assisted GPS disabled (if you are NOT using ATT’s costly GPS service)
Log file – Leave untouched for now
Data Connections – HSDPA icon enabled / HSUPA support enabled
Internet Explorer – Proxy Auto Detection enabled
Messaging – Nothing
Calendar – Nothing
Camera – Save location DCIM
Locations – Change all DEFAULT STORAGE entries to \Storage Card\My Documents\ and then the folder name (pictures etc.)
Don’t touch other entries and go straight to
Light Sensor – Polling disabled
Miscellaneous – Security warning disabled
Confirm with DONE and reboot phone
After reboot go to the Storage Card folder “Tools” and install in the numbered order 07_FExploreEXT_2_03 / 08_G - DK 4.3 Add 3G to Comm Manager should force a phone reboot, if not reboot after EACH one. After the boot go again to the tools folder and install 09_SASHIMI7.5 which will ask you some questions after install, just follow the instructions no harm will be done. Do some forum reading for what it is for. It will take some ROM flashing, Hard Reset fear away. Last but not least install 10_Data_Backup v3.1 (which is HTC Backup).
That’s the basic setup and you’ll have a good and reasonably fast running ATT Fuze.
If you want you can install Skyfire browser (on storage card) and the latest Opera Browser (on device overwriting what was provided with the Manila Package) and the latest google maps (on the storage card) which are in the corresponding folders in my package.
@essentials package content: (check also upd_1 additions here)
\Browsers
Opera_9.5.2808_VGA _acard
Skyfire_8184-PPC50
\Config
Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3
Diamond TF3D Config Setup v0.6.7
Diamond Tweak 0.5.3_English
\Google\GoogleMaps_compressed (latest with street view)
\ManilaOEM
Manila animation (fully animated version)
Manila_1.2.34569.1_1813.6_clock_animated (only clock animated)
\NetCF
NETCFv2WM (netCF 2.0)
NETCFv35.wm.armv4i (net CF 3.5)
\Tools\ (files numbered in order to install)
01_GPSTest.ppc
02_LumosSetupV08 (great tool for better setup of the auto light sensor – DISABLE auto light sensor in you settings
03_No Sleep Raphael
04_regedit.Mrln_ARM (registry editor)
05_tcmdpocketarm (Total Commander)
06_TNT Battery Level (little tool to display status battery on top)
07_FExploreEXT_2_03 (file explorer extensions)
08_G - DK 4.3 Add 3G to Comm Manager (enable 3G on off on CommMgr.)
09_SASHIMI7.5 (auto installer which will come handy with future ROM flashes)
10_Data_Backup v3.1 (HTC Data Backup) install on device not SD
MyMobile123_06152008. Copy this exe file to your PC and run it that you can control your phone through the PC, make screen shots etc.
A last word regarding backup:
Do frequently backups!!
If you plan to flash ROMs, backup ONLY the PIM database because a restore of a full backup will ruin your newly installed ROM!!!
If you stick with the same ROM a full backup will work .
A PIM backup contains by default all contacts and emails.
Have tons of fun with your new toy!!
Appearance content:
RC Mod v.2.1 ENG.CAB
Blue Hue.tsk
Default_ROMeOS.tsk
Default_TiR.tsk
Diamond.tsk
Glossy Black Bars.exe
HTC Black.tsk
myBlue_Void.tsk
WM 6.1 Black.tsk
WM 6.1 Blue.tsk
some & screenshots named by the TSK files
Clocks
Zitoun_Black
Matt_Jackson
JStar_Black
Notes:
TouchFlo3D aka Manila 3D has some default colors, so does ATT's version of Manila (I guess orange highlights). These are hard coded into the reg.
To change you have to edit the registry (regedit in the essentials).
Please read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442286 at LEAST the first two pages to cover the large start menu as well!!!
To change upper and lower bars / softkey background I made a little appearance pack which you can download (screenshots are included).
I also included RCMod 2.1 from o3blig here in the forum if you really don't like any of the TSKs and Glossy Black Bars.exe for .. guess what GLOSSY BLACK BARS
Clocks
To change the basic clock you need to overwrite six files in the Windows directory using Total Commander provided with the first pack.
I suggest to copy the original files FIRST somewhere else in case you don't like the clock!!![/B]
The filenames are:
0aa5b915_manila
1bbfdc9b_manila
1c813f6c_manila
4e670504_manila
757e7332_manila
78ca32be_manila

Excellent job!
Well-written and very informative yet more concise and effective than the Wiki if you ask me, at least for the audience you're targeting. That's sticky material in my book (but not in my bookmarks ).
I linked your post on the top of my site which is more of a next step for the noobs once they make their way through your instructions. Feel free to reciprocate.
Doug

Very good job, I can see you spent some time on that.

tyguy said:
If you power on your device the first time you will be asked to align the screen, play with cut and paste, set a password. AFTER this step a large window will appear that the device will customize in a few seconds. At THAT MOMENT soft reset with the stylus in the reset hole. This will NOT install all ATT bloatware and will NOT install ATT’s version of TouchFlo3D (aka Manila). I bet that you will fail the first time, so look at the little ATT flyer where HARD RESET is explained and simply do it again. Hard reset will wipe out all you personal data. Not a big deal right now since you have none.
If you were successful you will have a green screen with some information on it.
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I did this when I first got my Fuze and it installed all the bloatware anyway after the soft reset but ran worse than with the bloat.
I don't mean to say this method doesn't work, just a word of warning that it's not 100% foolproof either. You might have to do it a few times to get the timing right for it to work; I just went with a cooked ROM in the end.

Hey thanks for the comments and - yes - I ran more than once through this routine (this happens when you catch a BAD cold and have nothing to do at home ...).
@kerensky97
Hahaha mark my words ... upps QUOTE my words
At THAT MOMENT soft reset with the stylus in the reset hole. This will NOT install all ATT bloatware and will NOT install ATT’s version of TouchFlo3D (aka Manila). I bet that you will fail the first time, so look at the little ATT flyer where HARD RESET is explained and simply do it again.
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Click to collapse

I first want to thank you tyguy, i followed your directions and am quite pleased. Secondly i wanted to ask if there was a way to reactivate the 'zoom' wheel feature to the opera browser.

Great guide! Exactly what I was looking for. I do have one issue: I already got past the first time powering on and setup, so all the ATT bloatware was installed. Any cures for this scenario?

jdomi99 said:
Great guide! Exactly what I was looking for. I do have one issue: I already got past the first time powering on and setup, so all the ATT bloatware was installed. Any cures for this scenario?
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a hard reset can be performed by Start>settings>system>clear storage>1234>ok.
this will allow you to start the process over

Thanks, fuzewoes, I'll try that.

Dude I've had my FUZE for about 3 weeks and have it all setup nicely but Im gonna save a backup an hard reset and try this, just sounds to great to pass up, does the manilla you have us install look like that black one or does it look like the gray style that comes with att stock? Does it let you set backgrounds to all tabs?
Thanks man!

Hard reset - 1234
Remember even after this hard reset you have to time the stylus soft reset otherwise all ATT software include ATT Manila WILL be installed!
Hint:
Do a PIM Backup of your personal data and emails first using the HTC backup in the RAR file and store it on the SD card.
Clock
Yes, both provided Manila versions come with the HTC known "flip clock" (black numbers white background). If you like another clock please follow what's written in the Raphael and Diamond Theme threads.
If you like the clock in the screenshot install the attached CAB (thanks and high-fives go to JStarLuvsTina!)
Background all tabs
I don't recall 1000% if the wallpaper will change for all tabs since I went back to my preferred ROM after running this install but, if not, the solution
is in the attached CAB mUn BackGround4AllPages v.02.cab or read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432951&highlight=background+tabs
Zoom
Hmmm, actually this should work out of the box. Did you check in Diamond Tweaks "19.Touch-sensitive Wheel". If this doesn't solve the problem let me know.

does it install sprite backup? i was planning on making a full backup of my current system and if case i didnt like it this way i would just restore my backup

Fuze Set Up Question:
Can you please tell me how to me typing "i" automatically change to "I"
I have tried everything and just can't seem to be able to figure out how to ADD auto correct words.
Another I would like is the days of the week or months. I want to program into my fuze that if I type "monday" it automatically corrects and shows "Monday" (and the same with the rest of the days and months.
How can I set up auto correct words so when I am typing with the keyboard these changes will be automatically made.
Thanks.
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how do you get the top and low bar to become black, i currently have it green

@TVDinner
I'd say "wrong thread" please ask this questions somewhere else.
@peste19
AFAIK Sprite comes with the stock ROM regardless if you "Manila" it or not.
To change the colors you need a different TSK file.
If you want to freely change the upper and lower bar look for RCMod.
I guess you are looking for the Original HTC Black / Green.
Attached are some of my favs, unzip, copy into the windows dir and select under "Settings-Today"
ZIP content:
Diamond.tsk
HTC Black.tsk
myBlue_Void.tsk
Blue Hue.tsk
WM Azrieli.tsk
WM 6.1 Black.tsk
WM 6.1 Blue.tsk

thanks tyguy by the way great post

peste19 said:
how do you get the top and low bar to become black, i currently have it green
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Change theme to HTC Black.

If that does not exist it would be a tsk file you can search for.

Has anyone tried the weather database editor with this method? It doesnt work for me, when i open the editor it doesnt show the countries, just a blank white screen

Great Guide a lot of time spent and good work.
It would appear that AT$T has thrown us a slight curve in the bloatware dept.
When setting up the phone after a hard reset, go through the screen alignment window and the practice moving files window. But then right when the screen turns to the WM 6.! desktop, do the soft reset, If you wait till the customizations in three seconds screen appears, it is too late and you will have to do it again.
It appears that AT$T figured too many people knew how to hide the bloatware, so they changed it up slightly so you would have to load the bloatware at least the first time.