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I've got a Kenwood BT-200 bluetooth handsfree car kit and have found the following issues with it;
1. Everytime a call is completed, the phone book downloads all over again and takes over 10 minutes, preventing making follow on calls till complete.
2. The received and dialed calls list doesn't work
3. Cannot initiate a call from the head unit unless the phone screen is on (was working perfectly on previous HTC Touch Cruise).
4. Unable to initiate voice dialing on Phone using Microsoft Voice Command whereas with previous HF kits it was as simple as pressing and holding the call button.
Anyone else use the same Touch Pro - BT200 combination? Or experience similar problems with other HF kits?
I have Pioneer BT unit. I can not connect, but I installed Hands-Free Config from JETware Mobile Software and it solved all my problems. There are many setting options which should help you...
Hi Pritman,
I just went through the same thing after upgrading to the Touch Pro from the Dopod 838Pro (Hermes).
There's a firmware update available for the KCA-BT200 which may well fix your issues (certainly did mine).
I created a post about this earlier today (didn't see your post here).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440494
The firmware flash is very easy to do. You will just need a laptop with a bluetooth adaptor.
Codenix.
Kenwood have released another update.
See my other post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440494 for details.
Codenix.
Wow, never thought I would fine anyone else with the combination of Kenwood DNX-7100, KCA-BT200 AND the touch pro. I am having similar issues.
DNX-7100 with BT100 worked fine with touch pro.
"upgraded" to BT200, and I have nothing but headaches.
I have tried two different BT200, and both have been flaky.
I have tried BT200 firmware 1.60 and 1.70, and both have been flaky.
My problem is similar to the ones you folks have been experiencing, mainly it is constantly downloading, and the interface is super sluggish when downloading. I can retrieve a name and phone number from the BT200's memory, but when I call out it will say downloading and do nothing. Sometimes it won't "pair" with the phone automatically unless I manually select my phone from the DNX-7100, and sometimes it will just drop the connection. I used the BT100 for about a year, and it was solid 95% of the time. I am running stock Telus rom, btw. I have also played around with the dip switch on the BT-200. From the shipped manual, DNX-7100 belongs in group F, which is off, off, on for dip switch 1, 2, 3. But when I searched online, some of Kenwood's info listed the DNX-7100 under group G, which has dip switch off, on, off, just to add to the confusion. I have also tried removing the "wireless stereo" profile as well as the "serial port" profile, but that fixed nothing. Lastly, just to kick me when I'm down, when it list the numbers, sometimes it list them as first name, then last name, but sometimes it list it as last name then first. This is super irritating as you can't be sure where anyone is listed ..... so far my experience with the BT200 has been nothing but horrible. I am on the verge of flashing my touch pro to a cooked ROM just to see if it is due to the stock Telus rom's bluetooth (I went back to stock as the juggalo rom I used became corrupt after a few weeks).
So, did you guys finally find a solution that worked 100% of the time?
Idea
Hi Guys, I'm glad there are more people out there with my combination.
Upgrading the BT 200 to 1.70 has improved things significantly but not as good as it would be with another handset like a Nokia N95. The download delay and sluggishness still exist.
I recall when I paired the TP, a notice came up on the TP that the BT 200 is requesting access to the phonebook or contacts and prompted me to allow or deny. I'm wondering what would happen if I deny? I do know that when I first paired the N95 with the older firmware, it wouldn't syncronise the contacts and I had to manually send the contacts to the BT 200. If this can be done with the TP, it may eliminate the constant downloading, perhaps.
Anyone else willing to try this. I may not be able to do this till later this weekend so if any of you do manage to test this before me, please post the results.
Good luck!
If you don't give it access to the phonebook, I suspect it can't download your phonebook automatically, and you would have to manually push the phonebook over, which defeats the purpose of the BT-200, effectively making it a BT-100. After trying a 2nd BT-200 for 3 days, I have given up and chalked up the BT-200 as extremely flaky, and is easily the worst purchase I have ever made as:
1) Half the time it won't pair with the phone automatically
2) The other half when it does pair, you can't dial out as half time time again when you want to make it call, it decides to do a download from your phone instead (never mind that it already "downloaded" when it paired already. Half x half = quarter.
3) Half the time when it does manage to make it call, it magically drops the bluetooth pairing and drops the call.
If you're keeping track, we are at half x half x half, which is 0.125, or this damn thing only works 12.5% of the time. This is not a time saver, nor a gadget of convenience/safety. It is the ultimate source of anxiety, danger (as you're trying to get the damn thing to work), and a big disappointment. Kenwood, shame on you for putting out such flaky products, and especially for not fixing it (look at the first post, it is from Oct 08).
I am going to return both of my BT-200 to Clutchfield, and am going back to my 99% stable BT-100. BT-100 actually is not as horrible with the TP as TP runs WinMo 6.1, which lets you push multiple phone book contacts at once (not like the older WinMo where you had to push contacts ONE BY ONE!!!). The only caveat with the BT-100 is if you need to delete or modify any contacts, you can't, and you have to delete all the entries for a particular phone and repair and push all contacts again, which takes 1 minute now as oppose to half an hour with pre-WinMo 6.1. When I buy a HU next time, I don't think I will consider Kenwood again due to:
1) Flaky software/interface.
2) Poor documentation.
3) Poor service support. Kenwood Canada actually NEVER REPLIED. I only received the auto-gen email notification indicating they received my email. Clutchfield Canada has been very supportive, and I will pay more to buy from them in the future solely due to their strong customer support.
Hi Johnnysks,
As far as the Touch Pro is concerned, I understand your frustration and totally support your argument.
On the other hand, I have tested the BT-200 with a Nokia 96 & my previous Touch Cruise, works like a dream! I've had good responses from Kenwood UK but whenever I contact HTC, I alway get vague responses, which to me suggests that Kenwood must have been making the effort but keep getting let down by HTC. Ultimately the BT-200 works with majority of the handsets out there.
I will still keep trying for a solution though as I really do like the TP and the BT-200!
I have no doubts the BT-200 works with other phones, and I know my TP works with my BT-100 flawlessly. I also know from prior personal dealings with Kenwood Canada's technical support that:
1) They're rude, have a bad attitude, and unprofessional (as my first inquiry for a different product from a year ago was met with a reply that was condescending, unhelpful, and was not even in proper English). I'll be more than happy to dig up my old email for you if you have any doubts.
2) They're not responsive. It's been over a week, and they never replied to my current inquiry regarding the BT-200 (funny. They used to be rude and unprofessional. Now they're missing in action)
Perhaps Kenwood USA, Kenwood UK, or Kenwood Japan are doing an awesome job. However, I can only go with what I have personally experienced.
Anyone find a fix for this? I have the same problems with my DNX8120. Tried Jetware, no luck, I would try BTRestore, but it won't work with .net 3. My biggest complaint is that even if it is connected via bluetooth, it won't start a call from th eheadset unless the phone is not in standby. Next biggest issue is that it drops the connection after hanging up from a call.
Very f*&%*g annoying!
FYI, worked with 2 different ETEN's
Hi all,
Since its now out and people have them (inc myself!) I thought I'd start a new thread with initial thoughts etc
I like the feel of the unit it feels more solid than my Vario II
I synced all my contacts and texts etc but havent used it to make calls etc yet so cant comment here but the sync was as expected
The phone itself looks great -its a shame the touch-flo is so t-mobile but thats to be expected
I'll probably buy a spare battery once im sure im happy with it (I have a spare with my vario II)
so far I've only installed tomtom 7 (athough there is co-pilot data on the SD Card??)
anywho so far happy but early days!!
J
No opera only IE installed I'll look for an opera cab!!
Are there any significant issues with the latest opera beta?
I see loads of threads relating to it
Should I get the stable build (8.5?) or use the beta?
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
The version I have after the hard reset is 1.2.34589.1_1813.6
What do (sensible) people have out of the box?
The main difference that I can see is that it doesn't have the Favourites (in a circle arrangement) on the far left of the TouchFlo panel and I also seem to remember it looking slightly different as well. I know T-mobile test each phone before they send them out - could they have updated the software through USB but not touched the ROM? Seems like the most likely option IMO.
In respect of the device, so far I'm very impressed with the Vario's speed.
I'm comparing it to the MDA Compact IV I had for a week last year - the extra RAM definitely seems to make a noticeable difference.
Edit:
After Hard Reset:
ROM Version: 1.69.110.8 WWE
ROM Date: 08/21/08
Radio Version: 1.02.25.19
Protocol Version: 52.33.25.17U
Devious said:
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
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Just ordered mine from T Mobile today - at leat the CSR knew (without prompting) it was called the Vario IV, even if they had none in stock!
Re the CoPilot - I have been a long time user of CP6 (came with my Compact II) - is it useable? And did you specify it when ordering, or do you think its inclusion (given your hard reset) is an oversight by T-Mobile?
CoPilot Live is 7 Day Trial
Version
What version of Opera is it?
Supplied Touch pro is:
1.2.34589.1_1813.6
Before Hard Reset
JonathanCassar said:
What version of Opera is it?
Supplied Touch pro is:
1.2.34589.1_1813.6
Before Hard Reset
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Opera is Version 9.5, build 1522.
There is CAB file in the Windows folder to install Opera, when I first Hard reset the device and tried running it, it did not work. I think there's another file (registry?) that needs running to activate it but I quickly gave up and just reset the thing to see what would happen!
Does your TouchFlo have Favourites on the left of the Home tab?
Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
screen print
I dont think so..
my homepage is attached
hard reset?
Devious said:
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
The version I have after the hard reset is 1.2.34589.1_1813.6
What do (sensible) people have out of the box?
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How did you do a hard reset?
I tried the vol down and enter combo but it reboots saying image not found..
JonathanCassar said:
How did you do a hard reset?
I tried the vol down and enter combo but it reboots saying image not found..
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Oh really? Another way of doing it is Start--Settings--System--Clear Storage.
The front screen you have is the same as mine now. When I get a chance I'll call up tech support to find out if they have an update.
I did the latter option and it worked thanks
Just Resyncing and putting on texts etc and then I'll play with co-pilot!
NREYNOLDS said:
Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
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must some other issue as the match is on the last digits.
NREYNOLDS said:
Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
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I have all my numbers stored in international format so my texts were being recognised but incoming calls weren't. Haven't had a chance to test properly but I think I've solved this by using Schapp's Advanced Config which allows you to change the number of digits that are matched.
As nice as the phone is, there a few things that are driving me crazy and I have a feeling I'm going to return it:
* Pressing left/right on the DPad requires you to press in exactly the right area otherwise you hit the call/home/hangup/back keys which is incredibly frustrating.
* No dedicated hardware keys to launch applications. I know you can configure double/triple clicks on the call/hangup keys but it doesn't work too well. You can't configure long presses on these keys
* Can't configure double/triple/long presses of the home or back keys
* Lack of hardware softkeys means I'm unable to use Sky Mobile (the java app) which, for some reason, doesn't work if you press the softkeys on the screen. Although I don't use this that often, it's incredibly useful to have.
I really don't like using Windows Mobile and having to rely on the touchscreen for everything as it's not really designed for finger operation alone. The hardware keys on the Wizard and Kaiser made them really easy to use but I can see I'm not going to get on with this :-( If only I hadn't smashed the screen on my Kaiser!
agree with most of your comments antlane, I will be calling tmobile to return one of my two handsets, I have to say the battery life on this phone is so poor. After a full charge took it off 6am this morning by 12 it had 30% left. It will not last a day for me.
International Format Contact Numbers Not Recognised
antlane said:
I have all my numbers stored in international format so my texts were being recognised but incoming calls weren't. Haven't had a chance to test properly but I think I've solved this by using Schapp's Advanced Config which allows you to change the number of digits that are matched
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@antlane you're a hero. I searched this forum and Google high and low before finding this answer. I've made the adjustment now (to 9 digits seems to work for me in the UK) and life is back to normal
For the purposes of being able to find this fix easily from web searching:
Problem: International Format Contact Numbers Not Recognised (in my case HTC Touch Pro/Raphael/Vario IV)
Solution: Use Schapp's Advanced Config to adjust number of digits matched (under 'phone' section).
As far as your other comments go, I too have mixed feelings about lack of hard buttons (especially for scroll, messaging and camera). But, in balance I am very impressed with TFL3D - it's really integrated well with the OS and provides functionality on top (e.g. remembering what track you were listening to before soft reset unlike WMP). It's fast and gives you the kind of look and feel that I expect from such a capable handset. Also like: keyboard, screen and soft keyboard options. Don't like: excessive T-mobile branding on TFL3D, lack of plain Opera option in programs (only WebnWalk), lack of 3.5mm headphone jack (adapter city still).
Thanks again @antlane
Thanks for that. Switching to 9 digits in advanced config, sorts it out perfectly.
How are people finding the T mobile branding ?? Its a bit pink for me so i may have to find a way to switch it back to HTC Black and grey.
NREYNOLDS said:
Thanks for that. Switching to 9 digits in advanced config, sorts it out perfectly.
How are people finding the T mobile branding ?? Its a bit pink for me so i may have to find a way to switch it back to HTC Black and grey.
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While I don't doubt this fix works for the phone, why on earth should we have to resort to a third party program to get a basic feature of EVERY phone made in the last 10 years or so??
My Vario II could identify a number if it had a +447 or 07 prefix..why can't my shiny new toy??
I've been dealing with T-Mobile customer support and then the tech support team as well over the last couple of days.
So far I've been told to remove any duplicate contacts from the phone memory (there weren't any) then copy all contacts from my SIM over to the phone memory...and erase all SIM contacts when that didn't work!
The last thing they've suggested is that my SIM (which is about 8/9 years old) is not supplying enough voltage (3 volts as opposed to 5 volts of modern SIMs) so they're sending me a new SIM card tomorrow. Apparently (and it made me laugh) this is a common Windows Mobile fault!
Has anyone heard of this "fault" or is this typical tech support BS??!?
Vario IV and Parrot BT
Something else thats frustrating me is that the Vario wont pair fully with my Rythum and Blue stereo in the car.
All other HTC devices (going back to the universal) pair in such a way that contacts and call history sync with the car stereo
The vario IV does connect but wont sync
Annoying as the Object push profile is supported by the phone
I'll probably still keep the phone just use it less in car for calls
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
Hey Matt,
please post your tweaks and programs to help US out too!
thanks!
Do yourself a favor, and BACK UP everything on your phone, so if you have to hard reset, you won't have to spend another 7 months tweaking everything back the way you had it.
When I installed the "test rom", after 12 hours of getting it all the way I wanted, I screwed around with the TP2 TF3D and didn't like it, hard reset, then restored everything back the way it was in less than 1/2 hour.
laft2k said:
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
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Congrats, after 4 months, 4 custom roms, on 3 TP's im finally happy and bug free with everything i want (except the damn galarm/s2u2 bug).
What are you running?
Everything is backed up and clean
I am running
ROM 1.90.161.5 WWE
Radio 1.02.25.28
Advanced Config
S2U2
SPB Time
SKSchema which I have programed to check my email every hour. Stock client never worked. And also soft reset every night to keep it fresh
TomTom7
GPS Test
Resco File Explorer and Reg Edit
Torch Button
AEB Plus
I am running the GPS tweaks cab which deletes the GPS log and turns off agps. I get a lock on tomtom in about 10 secs stationary and 30 secs moving
Also turned off face down mute as it really annoyed me.
Data connection terminates after 30 secs of inactivity
I imported some smart touch reg keys so I can use the scroll wheel for phone, contacts, programs etc...
Applied all the power settings in advance config
a couple of other minor tweaks which dont affect performance but make it easier for me.
And thats about it.
Matt
I would suggest so many more apps, but i dont want to mess up the good thing you have going.
Id drop touch button and get Htorch.....for sure
YL Groper said:
Congrats, after 4 months, 4 custom roms, on 3 TP's im finally happy and bug free with everything i want (except the damn galarm/s2u2 bug).
What are you running?
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What is the galarm/s2u2 bug you speak of? I use both and haven't experienced any issues...
laft2k said:
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
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Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
YL Groper said:
I would suggest so many more apps, but i dont want to mess up the good thing you have going.
Id drop touch button and get Htorch.....for sure
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Torch button does exactly what i want, turns on and off with one button press. Re-maped to my left softkey, Perfect.
I had loads of other apps but they were point;ess for me. I have everythig i need. I went through a stage of having loads of apps. But never used them. I prefer the minimal faster TP that works
ferus said:
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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Hi Ferus, with regards to TF3D, i ditched it, it wasd useless. I much prefer S2U2 and the default WM today screen
E-mails is where i had the most trouble. I use skschema to check my mail every hour. Works perfectly. I spent ages trying to find a fix. the script is #r(/windows/tmail.exe) #p(-service"youraccountname" -sync) just replace your account name with the exact name of your email account for example mine is "Yahoo!" Now this only works if the device is not locked using the built in locking as it brings the mail app to the foreground. works perfectly with s2u2 though.
Flashing my radio to the one above helped loads with GPS, also applying the gps tweaks cab really makes a difference.
Alarms was a problem i had with all my wm phones. This is now overcome using spb time. never had a missed alarm. sound also goes off if phone is silent
I dont have a problem with performance. I reccomend getting rid of TF3D.
I havent hadf any problems with Activ sync so cant help im afraid.
ferus said:
Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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Ferrus,
Relating to the 'freezes several times a day', i used to get that, albiet, freezing once every 4 days when i received a text. After flashing to the latest HTC ROM (updated version) over a month ago, i haven't had a crash since.
M
ferus:
I know you said you didn't want to flash a different ROM, but if you can wait a little longer hopefully AT&T will release their update for us.
There is a leaked test ROM upgrade here that fixes TONS of bugs, greatly speeds up the device, AND make GPS better (fast fixes with working aGPS...if you have data). The lag is still there, but not as bad as it was in the beginning.
The new radio in that ROM is leaps and bounds better than the stock radio.
If you need any warranty work done, you'll probably have to flash back to the stock ROM...unless they release the final version of this test one before then.
mlin said:
What is the galarm/s2u2 bug you speak of? I use both and haven't experienced any issues...
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Some are lucky
Here is my problem
http://forum.ageye.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=401&sid=5f608e68da8859da1ad4118d7ccb0cd6
ferus said:
Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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I had similar experiences until I used cooked roms. If you want a good stable rom I would try Might Mike's, or Juicy's... I had similar issues to most of your and they were all solved with a fresh rom. TF3D is zippy and sweet and I have pretty much solved them.
As far as the GPS... that was solved by updating to the 1.11 sprint radio. I lock on in less than 20 secs every time now. Not sure that will work for the ATT. Not sure if ATT is CDMA. I am sure there are some ATT compatible ones that would also solve your issues.
Thanks for all the answers and tips The whole weekend I was struggling with my TP and finally I decided to go through with a ROM flash.
Someone suggested some ROMs already but I was wondering if you can recommend me a stable, quick and responsive (kind of a the-less-apps-the-better kind of ROM)?
I'm about to browse through the ROM forum but I'm afraid it contains TOO MUCH information. So I would appreciate any suggestions.
I use my TP as a normal PDA user (phone, email, internet, GPS, IM are the most used features).
Thanks in advance, I hope I can finally get a decent PDA ;-)
laft2k said:
Everything is backed up and clean
I am running the GPS tweaks cab which deletes the GPS log and turns off agps. I get a lock on tomtom in about 10 secs stationary and 30 secs moving
And thats about it.
Matt
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Hi.
Mind sharing how can I get the above cab?
I am having problems with a Sprint HTC TP2 after doing the 6.1 to 6.5 upgrade. I have had it into Sprint repair twice and hard reset it about 6 times. There are two problems I am encountering:
1) for about 2 minutes to 30 minutes at a time I cannot turn the unit on. The flashing green light is out during this time. I can call the phone and it wakes up, but you cannot wake it with any of the buttons. The reset button does not work either. You can pull the battery and that will reset it. Sometimes in this phase the white light behind the hard keys will light if you pull out the stylus, not always.
2) at random times the phone software gets really slow. For example, the flippity floppty clock animation will hang up and not move for 30-60 seconds, then it will move a little and eventually it will catch up. Other apps will do similar things, the clock is the obvious because of the animations.
This has occurred even right after a hard reset, within a few minutes. With no additional apps loaded (as Sprint told me the first time that was the problem.)
Sprint unofficially told me to downgrade it back to 6.1 using a variety of websites to follow, and officially told me to contact HTC support and gave me their 800 number.
Thoughts? Anyone else having this problem? Advice?
Being a Sprint corporate employee at a service and repair center, continue to go into the store if it is convenient for you to do so. Every eTicket they create builds a case for them to replace your TP2 with a new one. I would strongly suggest using Microsoft MyPhone to back up your information so if they do swap you out, you just need to log into MyPhone and sync your information.
The issue is with Sense
I experienced the same issues with the Sleep of Death in the device and had to remove the batteries everytime I finished a call. I got tired so I reflashed the phone, set it up and hard reset it again.
The problem persisted. I would have to click on the windows buttom and then could not click on the Today or Settings tab( I woud just hang there!) Then I disabled the SENSE UI and worked with the 6.5 default settings and no more lockup issues. Also, installed SPB Mobile Shell and it worked for 3 days without issues.
This makes me suspect the SENSE and HTC apps are causing the lockups. I am interested if other people are experiencing these issues. I installed MAX Manilla 2.5 two days ago and the device seesm to be stable. The only time I have issues is when I update the contact tab. It locks up, but that is not a function of Max Manilla but the core HTC contact app.
Had my phone for a week with Sense 2.5 and WM 6.5, stock. No problems like the ones mentioned in the thread yet...
It all depends on what you use your phone for. Try my ROM, see link below...
Sprint 6.5 Rom issues
There have actually been some similar issues with the new sprint 6.5 however, not to the extent of the phone having actually been stuck in sleep mode. Some things I can recommend that may help is to check your task manager frequently because programs don't fully close when you exit out of them. In addition to this you should consider installing cleanram which helps clear up memory. I’m not allowed to post the link because I’m still a new member however just follow this thread...
xda-developers > Windows Mobile Development and Hacking > Windows Mobile Apps and Games
[APP]htcAddicts - cleanRAM v2.1 (RAM Cleaner)
Also, there seems to be an issue with the manila 2.5 sense and the htc clock, if you have the htc clock open it can run sluggish at times..But I recommend that you pull up you quick tabs and minimize your htc clock for the sense 2.5 to run faster. Lastly keep the stock plain black screen saver because if you use a custom or different background the system can run slower.
I too also have the sprint tp2, and the 6.1 rom is considered to be one of the fastest and most stable rom for cdma tp2s. However, the downfall is the downgrade :/...
I have also worked for sprint corporate repair center, what might help and save you time before going to the repair center would be to call the technical support to see if they could solve your issue. Because by doing this a ticket is already created and the tech will be able to see the troubleshooting that was done. In addition to this repairs can be difficult and frustrating at times due to the fact that the problem that you’re having must be repeatable in order for sprint to repair or replace your phone (it really depends on the repair center). If you find that you continue to have errors with your sprint 6.5 rom, I would recommend trying other Roms to see if the issue is in fact the rom or the device...
Hope this can help!
-am
Sprint 6.5
Thank you for the good advice. I took my device into a store and they did the usual hard reset ( cannot reproduce the issue) process. I sat there and activesynched with Exchange server , made a call and had the phone locked up two times. I do have over 1000 contacts in my list ( Business, clients and my consultants!)
The tech said he had never seen this issue and ordered me a new device.I use the Clean Ram and task manager programs. I also ran a process explorer in the device and it finds Manilla to be the culprid of the issues. So I have installed Mobile Shell and am using that until my replacement arrives.
As I sat in the store there were 4 people with HTC TP2 with unresponsive screens. All 6.5 roms.
Sprint WM6.5
I have no idea what all the hype was about or what I'm missing in this upgrade. IT'S HORRIBLE!!! It's almost 10% cosmetic and 90% buggy. In my opinion, WM6.1 was stable, fast, and professional looking. The upgrade has done nothing for me in terms of productivity. It has turned my phone into a cartoonish, VERY sluggish, and a freeze worthy POS!!! I despise this upgrade, the colors, the themes, and most of--the stupid, sloppy, rolodex-like clock.
Anyone know where I could find the necessary information to 'downgrade' back to WM6.1???
jsonc78 said:
I have no idea what all the hype was about or what I'm missing in this upgrade. IT'S HORRIBLE!!! It's almost 10% cosmetic and 90% buggy. In my opinion, WM6.1 was stable, fast, and professional looking. The upgrade has done nothing for me in terms of productivity. It has turned my phone into a cartoonish, VERY sluggish, and a freeze worthy POS!!! I despise this upgrade, the colors, the themes, and most of--the stupid, sloppy, rolodex-like clock.
Anyone know where I could find the necessary information to 'downgrade' back to WM6.1???
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WM6.1 is always faster than WM6.5. Besides WM6.1 has sense 2.1, which is faster than sense 2.5.
Downgrade 6.1
PPC geeks has the stock roms...
I still cant post links yet :/ but goto PPC geeks..then click on forums..from there scroll down to where it says htc device and click on touch pro 2...then click on cdma tp2 upgrades...then scroll down nd you should see a forum thread that says STOCK ROM collections..once u click that it provides u a link for the sprint 6.1 rom and many others...hope this can help!
-am
Hello, Hopefully I can help with some frustrations regarding the various levels of SYNC systems and their apparent compatibility issues with Galaxy S phones. I will help anyone with this system to the best of my ability, and being a technician for Ford, i have a pretty good handle on these systems.
First off, I would encourage anyone with a question about this system to reference the Device Compatibility Matrix that is available at syncmyride.com, as is some basic troubleshooting information.
Always make sure that your CIP is up to the most current software level. Version numbers are different for each vehicle line(Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Flex, Edge, MKx, MKt, MKs, MKz, F series, E series, Mustang etc).
There is a known compatibility issue with Samsung Galaxy S family phones that is fairly consistent, however not 100% of the time.
The common symptoms both from my engineering department, and from my own experience is a complete lockup/disconnect when updating the phone book(sync) or a blackscreen and complete system lockup(mytouch variants).
In some instances, mainly with the AT&T flavor, the phones will not connect via bluetooth for media/text messaging or sync services, however they will usually work as a phone. None of the Galaxy S series will accept phone book downloads, and that has been known to completely lock out the system, requiring a hard reset and occasionally a full reflash of the APIM(Accesory Protocol Interface Module, SYNC's brain box) to unlock.
I have found a dead consistent workaround for this that I dont imagine ford would be willing to back, but it is rock solid reliable and relatively simple, it involves flashing a rom that does NOT include touchwiz. I am not familiar enough with these phones to say exactly what, however every phone I have attempted to pair/use with touchwiz has failed, with touchwiz, or stock touchwiz gone, and again, I am not familiar enough to say for sure, the problem disappears.
I have first hand used Bonsai(epic 4g) and Beautiful SGS4G(Galaxy S 4g) as well as CM7(Vibrant) and had zero problems pairing or using any functions with the vehicle. Phone calls, streaming audio, Pandora, Text messaging, navigation etc all work smoothly with no hangups or hitches since romming the phones.
Again I hope this is helpful and if i can help you directly, feel free to contact me via pm or in this thread, however pm is going to be the best way to get in touch with me.
A few quick things that I have consistenly observed...Blackberrys are trouble. SYNC does NOT like BB's. Sync is also very sporadic with non smart-phones. Regular ol dial only phones do not seem to be very compatible, even though there are some listed on the compatibility matrix. Mytouch systems(8" touchscreen navigation with a black background and 4 way grid homescreen with top left-phone, top right-nav/services, bottom left-audio, bottom right climate control) are VERY tempermental. SYNC systems(smaller MFD that is non touch screen, or newer mustangs/raptors etc) are much more forgiving and much hardier from my experience.
Take care!
Great information, thanks.
Hmm -- app possible to remote control a late model ford, like driving the thing around with nobody in it?
lol its not quite that integrated. So far our capabilities in the shop are not that far above what you can do as an end user. I would imagine they will tie remote start, unlock/lock, windows etc in probably by end of the 2013 m/y.
We have managed to run diagnostics through sync as its tied into the HS/MS can networks, but beyond basic code pulling and system network integrity tests we haven't been able to pull reliable data out. Nowhere near solid enough to do realtime diagnostics or fault tracking.