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I want to map the green "phone" ("send") button to work as speakerphone with long keypress when phone is used, but I can't find any info.
OTOH I notice most ROMs use long press for this button and map usually wireless managers, which would be fine if it would work that way only when phone is not in use (and 'restore' the speakerphone function for long press when phone is in use) but I have not seen such solution yet. Has anyone done/try this?
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I want to map the green "phone" ("send") button to work as speakerphone with long keypress when phone is used, but I can't find any info.
OTOH I notice most ROMs use long press for this button and map usually wireless managers, which would be fine if it would work that way only when phone is not in use (and 'restore' the speakerphone function for long press when phone is in use) but I have not seen such solution yet. Has anyone done/try this?
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Hi,
Deleting Long_Send.lnk might restore original function of long press send key sir,.
Hope it help,.
Regards
Unfortunately, I don't think you can have two different functions based on context. AdvancedConfig has an option to map pretty much anything to the long send.
Garmin said:
Hi,
Deleting Long_Send.lnk might restore original function of long press send key sir,.
Hope it help,.
Regards
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Thank you, Sir
blue_94_trooper said:
Unfortunately, I don't think you can have two different functions based on context. AdvancedConfig has an option to map pretty much anything to the long send.
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Well, I was thinking about something more complex than I can do myself, hence my post here.
Idea is to make a small applet which will switch the function of the button based on the processes running (or other ways to determine it) and assigning different shortcut to this button. I.e. when the phone is connected it will assign speakerphone to the "send - long press", when phone is not in use it would redirect "send - long press" to the wireless manager, if you know what I mean (sorry my english); so virtually mapping the "green" button to this app could achieve that, no?
intersted also in your send key LKP!!
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Thank you, Sir
Well, I was thinking about something more complex than I can do myself, hence my post here.
Idea is to make a small applet which will switch the function of the button based on the processes running (or other ways to determine it) and assigning different shortcut to this button. I.e. when the phone is connected it will assign speakerphone to the "send - long press", when phone is not in use it would redirect "send - long press" to the wireless manager, if you know what I mean (sorry my english); so virtually mapping the "green" button to this app could achieve that, no?
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Bump....
I also want exactly the same setup! Great minds think alike!
Your mention about the wireless manager sounds a handy idea also, and I am at present having to use a long keypress on the left hand hardware 'record' button. This is fine, but I also have it mapped to normal press = audio record. But want to use it for something else at some point.The more buttons free the better. To be able to have the sent button act on a long key press to work the speakerphone seems to me like something that should actually be in place by default. I mean, what better way to start the speakerphone!!
I do hope someone is able to shed some light on this, or you manage to pull it off yourself you can count me in to try the fix etc.
PS:: Would a MORT SCRIPT help in this situation I wonder? I am not familiar with MS but sure someone may know a way round it.
Regards
Nick-UK
Thanks for your kind support
I wrote about this year or more ago on another forum, but few responses I got were discouraging at best.
I think if we could do such "app", we could use it for all the buttons and change their "assignments" based on the currently running apps...
With scripts we can do things like rename "Long_Send.lnk" into "Long_Send.disabled" (for example) instantly, and rename it back to "Long_Send.lnk" when i.e. pressed again. But the problem is that I don't know how to "detect" and use it in the scripts what is currently running and discriminate between foreground and background processes that are currently running?
Because what if you have two (or more!) programs that are using the same button assignments but for different purposes and both are running in the same time? say you are on the phone talking - thus long_send is assigned to speakerphone, and you also run (for example) windows media player where you assigned same green button to fullscreen display? The scripts cannot tell which one is running in the foreground by themselves, and (in this example) holding green button could bring the WMP to fullscreen instead of turning on speakerphone. Beforewe use mortscript to "activate" apropiate script, we need to know which process was started last (so - per my example - we would know that the phone was last started and not the WMP, and mortscript would run "speakerphone script for green button" instead of "fullscreen wmp script for green button"... and there is another problem: the phone is always ON on our PocketPCs since boot, and it is running all the time in the background, so it will have to differentiate between phone being active and phone in the "waiting" state...). Apologies if I sound incomprejensible, I tried to make it clearer but I don't know is it less gibberish
to cut it short: I don't think it can be done with simple scripts. But of course I may be wrong.
In theory it should work this way:
1 Long_Send.lnk -> starts our "app"
2 "App" checks what program is currently running on the screen (in the forground, or last started etc)
3 "App" executes apropiate action assigned for this program (i.e. speakerphone for active phone call, or wireless manager for today screen, etc etc)
4 "App" releases/removes/disables the action from previous step and changes it back to the state it was before when the foreground program is closed (i.e. changes back long_send from assignment to speakerphone back to default once the phone call ended)
sounds simple, doesn't it?
Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280
I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.
There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.
Try AE Button Plus.
B.
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?
I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...
I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.
Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...
Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.
helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions
You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!
Before I start, I apologise if this has already been answered elsewhere, as I've spent about five hours trawling through threads looking, in vain, for a solution.
I have bought a new Fuze but the PTT button causes a problem with the aluminium case I bought for it. The problem is that the case is for a Touch Pro and the latch is right where the PTT button is (meaning the button is permanently depressed when the case is closed). It cannot be remapped in Settings/Buttons.
All I want to do is to be able to disable the button completely, or failing that make it an 'OK/Close' button. I have got rid of the PTT link but would greatly, greatly appreciate if someone could tell me what commands should be written in "short_PTT.lnk" and "long_PTT.lnk" to be able to do this. I've tried just leaving both blank but then the PTT button brings up an error message when pressed about not being able to find the shortcut.
Is there a way to achieve either of these solely using the registry, and without using third-party software?
Thanks for your time.
Here's full instructions on remapping your PTT button: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=598
To just disable it so it does nothing follow the steps at the beginning:
Using a registry editor delete HKLM\Services\PTT.
Next delete HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT.
Navigate back to the Windows directory and rename PTT to PTT2
Now create a new folder called PTT and set the properties as System and Read Only
If you follow all of those instructions and want to map it to close use this app and map it: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1249
Problem fixed
You're a great person, bugsykoosh. I had done the first part you suggested, but the second link - and use of a tiny program called Zap It - fixed it perfectly.
Thank you heaps.
Okay so what is the joke why does this work for EVERYONE, except me. I mean seriously. I followed the steps but nothing. I press the button and I get nothing at all except the noise that indicates the keypress was succesfull WHAT GIVES.
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To just disable it so it does nothing follow the steps at the beginning:
Using a registry editor delete HKLM\Services\PTT.
Next delete HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT.
Navigate back to the Windows directory and rename PTT to PTT2
Now create a new folder called PTT and set the properties as System and Read Only
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This is overkill. You don't need to mess around with the PTT directory. If you just stop the PTT service from running, nothing will look in the PTT directory and its contents don't matter.
Just change HKLM\Services\PTT\Dll to an empty string and soft reset. The button will be completely inert. You can then remap it using AEBP or the short_PTT/long_PTT shortcuts, if you choose, or just leave it inactive.
Today
WMM,
If you change as you suggested, it looks like the long and short still work. I've remapped and did all the steps, but it looks like yours may be a little easier/cleaner. I'm curious, and I've looked extensively to no answer, but if I want the short press to just send my Fuze back to "Today" (in TF3D), is there a way to do that? If I press Start the first option is Today and this does exactly what I want. There's no shortcut that I can locate anywhere (and I'm sure it's my ignorance/technical inability) and the next step is to make a copy of that shortcut and name it short_PTT which I can handle. Any suggestions?
So, it isn't possible to map the PTT button from the Settings - Buttons screen? Looks like the method linked to above, with the short_PTT and long_PTT shortcuts, won't allow me to map the PTT buttons to work as the left and right softkeys.
As far as I know (which isn't very far, sometimes), the only way to get the PTT button to execute "Home" or the left/right soft keys is to use AE Button Plus. There may be applications that do those things that you can download (I know there are for things like toggling wifi and bluetooth, killing the current application, etc.) -- these are really tiny utility applications that are specifically intended for mapping to a button -- but I don't know of ones that do those particular things. (AEBP is able to do all those things, as well as giving you four mappable events -- single, double, triple, and long press).
okay seriously here do the links need to have special settings or anything. I mean what attributes should they have. Nothing works!
For the life of me, I can't remap my PTT button.
On a short press, it activates the voice command system.
On a long press, it activates the camera.
This seems to be from flashing NATF's ROM.
Following instructions above, I have no HKLM\Services\PTT or HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT in my registry editor.
I did the short and long_PTT/link and PTT folder in Windows. The links work there, but doesn't change what happens when the button is pushed.
I have AEButton Plus, but can't get it to add the PTT as a button.
Any suggestions where I can find in the registry what is making my PTT button act as it is? I'd rather have it do nothing than what it is doing now.
Thanks,
Chris
txemsdoc said:
On a short press, it activates the voice command system.
On a long press, it activates the camera.
This seems to be from flashing NATF's ROM.
Following instructions above, I have no HKLM\Services\PTT or HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT in my registry editor.
I did the short and long_PTT/link and PTT folder in Windows.
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Yes, I believe NATF did not add the PTT stuff from AT&T into his ROM; the instructions above are for the stock AT&T ROM. You'll have to ask NATF how to remap the PTT button using his ROM.
jro2020 said:
okay seriously here do the links need to have special settings or anything. I mean what attributes should they have. Nothing works!
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I'm not sure what you're talking about here. As I mentioned in my last posting just above this one, this probably only works in a ROM that supports PTT, like the stock AT&T ROM; if you're running something that doesn't support PTT, it would be a real surprise if "short_PTT" and "long_PTT" meant anything special, no? Assuming you are running the stock AT&T ROM, here's a step-by-step procedure for creating the short_PTT link to point to the Camera application using the built-in File Explorer.
1) Open File Explorer. If the drop-down box at the upper left says anything other than "My Device," tap the small down-arrow next to the label and then tap on "My Device."
2) Tap on "Windows" and wait a few seconds for the folder contents to appear.
3) Scroll down until you see "Camera" (the one that's 794K). Tap and hold that until the pop-up menu appears and then tap on "Copy".
4) Tap on "Menu" in the lower right, then "Edit", then "Paste Shortcut".
5) Scroll to the very bottom of the folder contents and you'll see "Shortcut to Camera" that was created. (The name may be truncated, depending on the size of the font and the screen orientation. Mine says, "Shortcut to Ca..." in portrait orientation. In any event, it will be the last thing in the folder contents.) Tap and hold on that until the pop-up menu appears and then tap "Rename". Then just type "short_PTT" to overwrite the existing name and hit return.
That's all you need to do. (If the application you want to run with the PTT button is in a different folder from \Windows, navigate there, tap-hold on the application executable, and select "Copy". Then navigate to \Windows and do steps 4 and 5 exactly as above.) This works exactly the same for the "long_PTT" shortcut.
If you do exactly that, does it not work? What happens if you tap the "short_PTT" shortcut in File Explorer? Does it start the camera?
Here is a link to a cab that will allow you to remap the PTT button: http://www.fuzemobility.com/ptt-remapping-revisited-application/
Remap PTT to launch phone Speed Dial?
I have disabled PTT so that I can use the button to launch programs - I just dont know how to launch phone speed dial - Does anyone know if there is a file that will launch speed dial that I can use to link to the PTT button?
Thanks!
pdafish said:
I have disabled PTT so that I can use the button to launch programs - I just dont know how to launch phone speed dial - Does anyone know if there is a file that will launch speed dial that I can use to link to the PTT button?
Thanks!
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if your goal is to map your PTT button to call a single person check this posting: http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3635
Here is another source that gives you step by step instructions.
http://htcblogger.com/2009/06/07/ho...utton-on-your-att-fuze-htc-diamond-touch-pro/
Note that if you're using the stock Fuze ROMs, the updated ROM from HTC adds the ability to remap the PTT button without any registry hacks.
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Note that if you're using the stock Fuze ROMs, the updated ROM from HTC adds the ability to remap the PTT button without any registry hacks.
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Can you post instructions as to how? I tried it already and the pulldown that shows you the available apps you can pick only shows PTT.
Best regards,
JD
So I followed the registry edit method, and created a file (not a folder) called PTT and things work great .... except ... when its on Airplane mode (Phone, Bluetooth and Data set to off) and I press the button (short or long) the PTT function kick off.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
Anyway to change this behaviour?
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Can you post instructions as to how? I tried it already and the pulldown that shows you the available apps you can pick only shows PTT.
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Something's odd with your phone, then. Mine shows the full list of apps and options. I remapped PTT to VC without an issue.
Is it possible that you've got an application that's taking over the Buttons Control Panel? On mine, I had to remember to shut off SPB Pocket Plus's control over the buttons since it doesn't work with the Touch Pro line. When I first fired up the control panel, it listed no apps until I remembered that I had Pocket Plus running and turned of that feature.
Instead of Vlingo, when tapping the Silent Key I want to start Voice Notes straight to "Record" function (like Dictaphone). Does anyone know a tweak?
(I already upgraded to WM6.5 and changed the media web button to skyfire, and the att gps to garmin)
When using Total Commander and trying to remove all of the ATT crapware/demo ware, I was only able to remove from the Start Menu or from Program Files, but not from the Windows main directory. It appears that deleting files like JewelQuestII.exe from the Windows main directory is locked (I get a message 'cannot delete 1 file(s)') Does anyone know how to unlock that? How can I uninstalling the rest of the AT&T clutter, including successfully removing the start-up/shut-down AT&T 3g animation?
Also, on my previous HTC Tilt there was a button on the side, which when I tapped it the display turns off and the device goes to 'sleep' stand-by mode (keys, screen don't respond, until there is phone call to wake up the device). On the i637 the button on the side doesn't do that - when I tap it it goes to shut down and such shortcut menu. Does anyone know how to tweak it to behave like the Tilt? (put it to sleep).
[Right now I have to wait like 30 secs before the device puts itself to sleep, so I just hold down the end button to 'lock' it and then put it in my pocket]
Do you think that the reason why you have to hold on the power button longer in order to start-up the device (after upgrading to WM6.5) is because somehow there are two sets of instructions for the phone to go by? [one is the old/stock 6.1 set of instructions, and one is the new 6.5 set)? If yes, then is there a way to completely remove the 6.1 (initial/stock stuff)? But yet, my HTC Tilt also has to be held down when booting up, and that was like that out of the box. Don't know if ATT did the upgrading on the Tilt to 6.1 though. But I do know that the Tilt that I have was ATT upgraded from 6.0 to 6.1 just don't know how they did it. Just mentioning the Tilt for comparison purposes. I need support only on i637.
Anyone knows any good (free) Pocket Dictionary for Smart Phone (non-touch screen)?
I just noticed this, since it is the first time that I actually went To MS Office, (and I went to it for the 1st time, after WM6.5 upgrade, so no i637 6.1 experience to compare). The MS Office WORD & Excel don't have any way to start a 'NEW' word or excel sheet. It just goes into browsing mode like searching for files. So I immediately went to the HTC Tilt and the Office to compare, and sure enough- for Tilt there IS a choice to start 'NEW' Word and Excel. In i637 the only 'NEW' choice is to start a 'New One NOTE' but not for Word or Excel. Any tweak, suggestions, comments?
Can someone post a working .cab for Smart Phone (non-touchscreen), turning the Jack i637 into a hot spot functionality, like the IPhone (announced as MyWi) ?
Did anyone figure out a tweak for the battery percentage? (% is not showing).
I have to admit that i637, though a non-touchscreen device, has so far many advantages over the Tilt. For one thing, I find it a lot faster and more convenient in the hand/pocket.
Hi guys,
My digitizer has died, and till the new one comes I was thinking of how I could use my T7272, I can write the SMS fine, but I can't send them out, cause the button is on the screen itself... is there a rom I could use freely w/o using the touchscreen?
P.S.
Is the digitizer hard to replace?
You could check out AE Button; it has some options like button presses that will activate soft buttons. I suspect you could send sms's using it. You could also try using mortscripts with AE button that will do stuff you need. There are some pretty simple scripts that will simulate screen taps, and you could assign them to a button push. I'd rather have a working touchscreen, though.
Here are some of the commands:
# 91: startmenu (on some devices it might be home button)
# 92: back key (not the backspace key but back key for closing applications which is available on some devices such as diamnd or blackstone)
# 93: menu key
#112: left softkey
#113: right softkey
#114: accept call (green button)
#115: hang up (red button)
#117: volume up
#118: volume down
#126: data disconnect
#127: toggle speaker
#133: devicelock
#223: power off
I use one to lock the device. Basically, you just put this:
Code:
sendspecial(133)
in a .txt file, and change the extension to .mscr. I call it Lock.mscr, and I have it assigned to a few different actions (like when a call comes in, a script locks the phone). So, sendspecial(112) and sendspecial(113) might help you out. There's also one for hitting 'Ok' in popups, which would probably work for you. I can't find it, though (google 'sendspecial' and you'll find it, it's all on msdn).
Anyway, if you install mortscript (maybe you already have it) as well as AE Button, you could assign button pushes to carry out those actions. Just stick the scripts somewhere easy, like the start menu, and it will be easy to set up.
If you want to get more complicated, there are also mortscript commands that simulate button pushes on the screen. You could set one up that would do just about anything. Also, SK Schema does similar stuff. You can write fairly simple sequences of button pushes that will do just about anything. This is one that I use that runs SK Tools Pim backup (I have it scheduled to run every night in the middle of the night).
#r(\windows\sktstart.exe) #p(STH:20)
#tap(146;602) #sleep(15000)
#tap(110;533) #sleep(500)
#tap(339;455) #sleep(500)
#tap(126;604) #sleep(500)
#tap(114;84) #sleep(500)
#tap(146;99) #sleep(5000)
#tap(310;254) #sleep(90000)
#tap(433;602) #sleep(10000)
#pwr() #sleep(10000)
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Basically, the backup tool gets launched in line 1, then there are a bunch of screen taps (w/ delays, to make sure everything is ready) in the menus to get the right options selected, followed by turning the device off.
I`m not sure... But i saw somewhere app that emulate a mouse (cursor) and you will be able to control this mouse with your D-pad... But I can be wrong...
I can't install that mortscript w/o the touchscreen though..damn it..: )..
Get MyMobiler, and use it to run your device off of a pc. You should be able to get that working.