Smartphone with FM radio recording - General Topics

Hello,
are there any up-to-date devices that have ability to record FM radio besides Samsung Omnia? Why there isnt any way to make some application for Xperia or another htc devices to record radio? Is it possible for Windows mobile devices at all or smartphone manufacturers are so extremely thrifty of adding absolutely primitive 0,1cent worth hardware feature to route fm radio through operating system??
Thank you

Most phones don't have the hardware. Since you obviously have no idea about how this hardware works, I won't bother explaining why that's probably a good idea.
The Touch Pro does have FM and you are welcome to write an application that records from it.

I think I dont understand you, so please, bother and explain me why thats a good idea.
Not only Touch Pro has fm radio, lot of wm phones have it, but according some forums the only one problem is that fm receiver output is linked directly to headphone out, so you can write million apps which will have no effect at all because the signal is routed outside the hardware that operating sytem manages.

The idea of 0,1cent worth hardware feature can be two wires that will routre audio signal from FM receiver to e.g. mic input so that it can be recorded. What is so difficult about recording FM radio on WM? Apps that can do it arent the problem.

Recording FM
After reading the minimal thread, It would be nice if we all contacted HTC and other manufactures to "encourage" them to enable their devices to record FM directly to the SD card. I have an Coby unit that is great for this you can listen to the program you are recording and the headset is the antenna...BUT it would be nice to leave it at home, one less gaget.

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FM Radio signal verry bad

Hallo,
I now have my device for a week and i'm verry happy with it.
But yesterday i tried to use the FM radio in the train and i was verry dissapointed with that.
I can't get a normal signal from any radio station.
I first toth it was because i was in a train..but when i arrived at the trainstation andn walked outside my signal still was verry bad.
I tried a couple of settings in my FM radio but nothing helped.
The only thing i tould worked, was to turn down the volume till 10% en turn the volume on the headset down.
Then i got some signal..but still it was verry bad.
Are there other people with the same problem..is it just a bad FM player in every device..or is my device broken?
Or is it just the headset that can give this problem?
Please can somebody give me some tips to make the signal better so i can use my device in the train as FM-radio.
I have the same problem : very bad signal on FM radio .
Is it a hardware or software problem ?
The radio is useless in this circumstances
Note : a simple "mini player" radio FM bought $3 (there are 6 years) is better than Touch Cruise (Polaris).
It,s not the radio it,s the headphone,try with other (3300's headphone or HTC E100)and u will c.
My radio seems to work fine, not as good as my old Sony Ericsson, but good enough for me.
I know it seems silly but have you tried moving the headphones wire around; don't forget it acts as the antenna for the radio.
Yeah tried that before.
Didn't change anything.
But i will try to use a other headset..maby this will work.
Otherwise im going to give a call to the helpdesk of HTC
My signal is bad as well, i had an old nokia 6610 before the polaris and his radio was way better in signal quality, if someone tests with different headphones please let us know so i`ll change mine.
Called the helpdesk today and they said it is probably the headset.
Tomorrow they will get my device incl. headset back to the factory and will find out wath the problem really is.
So its back to the factory after 1 1/2 week!
Thats really the fastes return i ever had with a device.
Hope this will solve something otherwise it's never a HTC device again
After the disapointing video playback and the rest of the problems with the drivers and now the problems with the fm radio..this is really pising me off.
Well i let you know if the problems are solved when the device is returned to me.
>I complained to HTC about having a lot of interference some time ago and >here is their response!
>It appears that you have to buy a better headdset if you want to listen to radio
Good Morning,
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We are sorry for your disappointment, we do understand how frustrating it is. However, the only thing this device has is a radio receiver. It receives FM frequency waves but in other to be able to listen to it you need to add more features to it.
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Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
the isn't any piece that we can put in the pda to increise the sinal?
thanks
yorgos00 said:
>I complained to HTC about having a lot of interference some time ago and >here is their response!
>It appears that you have to buy a better headdset if you want to listen to radio
Good Morning,
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We are sorry for your disappointment, we do understand how frustrating it is. However, the only thing this device has is a radio receiver. It receives FM frequency waves but in other to be able to listen to it you need to add more features to it.
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Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
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Is anyone knows through experience what headset work better with TC?
i think i would have to agree with others to try another headset. fm radio is just pretty much a extra so i wouldnt complain too much. if it would be so good the athena and other devices would have it. it is just there for using once in a while etc.. also i bet though this is htc's work bc if they used a internal antenna instead i bet it would be much better than using the headset
Top Mario said:
Is anyone knows through experience what headset work better with TC?
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HTC Touch Cruise E100 Wired Remote Control
giannis42 said:
HTC Touch Cruise E100 Wired Remote Control
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Thanks Giannis42
It look good, have you tried? what about that driver, is it TC friendly? a bit expensive, but if is a mind blowing I might buy it.
I lost my original TC headset three days after I bought it.
Pawel062 said:
i think i would have to agree with others to try another headset. fm radio is just pretty much a extra so i wouldnt complain too much.
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Why is it a extra?
Thay say that it has FM radio in the device..so it's not extra.
Otherwise the phone function is extra to :S..and if that doesn't work i complain about it also..wouldn't you??
If they say its has FM radio than i think that it has to work good..even if i use i a couple of times.
Btw. my device is being sent back..so it's now waiting for a answer from them.
Keep you informated!
Top Mario said:
Thanks Giannis42
It look good, have you tried?(YES)... what about that driver, is it TC friendly(YES)? a bit expensive, but if is a mind blowing I might buy it.
I lost my original TC headset three days after I bought it.
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Description
Keep your phone in your pocket with the HTC RC E100 Music Remote Control. The Music Remote Control lets you easily answer and make calls and play back your music by simply pressing a button. Clip the stylish Remote Control to your clothing and you have music playback and phone controls at your fingertips. Also, with the built-in FM antenna giving a signal boost, listening to FM radio stations is crystal clear (see note below).
Key Features
- The E100 includes 3.5mm stereo earphones or use your own!
- Voice dial support
- Last number redial support
- Volume buttons
- Music control buttons
- Play/Pause button
- Forward/Backward buttons for music playback or FM channel selection
- Phone buttons
- Send button to answer calls, call waiting switch or redial last number
- End button to end a call or use voice dial
- Mute button to silence ringtone when an incoming call comes or mute the microphone during an ongoing call
- Hold switch to lock/unlock the remote control
- Two colours: Black or white
Note: Only applies to devices with integrated FM Radio function
I have the wired remote (w100) that i used with my tytn II.
Just a heads up, it's only works with audio manager and windows media player (and htc radio obviously).
My cruise should be here soon hopefully so I will test it out.
HTC seems to take shortcuts with their devices. Antenna should not be in headest, should be in chip, plain and simple.
Also their wired remote is not perfect. It brings audio manager/windows media player to foreground of your phone whenever you press any of the buttons.
Also if you have suspend power on or screen off and you change volume of music via remote, the wakes up the device etc.. but i think if you lock it it might go back to sleep, can't remember.
Also keep in mind that it has a good length cord, from pocket to neck or so, but remmber your headphones you have to attach are long so you have a lot of extra cord! I have to wrap my head phones cord up and use twist ties! If I could find a pair of short wired good head phonesi would be happy but the ones i bought wer normal long wired ones to go with my remote.
Top Mario said:
Thanks Giannis42
It look good, have you tried? what about that driver, is it TC friendly? a bit expensive, but if is a mind blowing I might buy it.
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I have a Nevada personal DAB/FM radio which I use on the train. The Orbit 2 + E100 is at least as good as the Nevada for FM reception.
The only problem is, as mentioned elsewhere, if you press any of the controls on the E100 when listening to the FM radio the screen comes back on.
Cheers,
Paul
briggs81 said:
HTC seems to take shortcuts with their devices. Antenna should not be in headest, should be in chip, plain and simple.
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I've seen several people saying something similar to this but I just don't see how it's possible.
FM radio stations use a 3 metre wavelength. What signal level are you going to pick up with an aerial that's max 10 cm long?
I admit I'm no expert on aerial design etc but I have never seen a (useful) FM radio with an aerial less than about 40 cm.
Cheers,
Paul
i have a wireless bluetooth headphone but i can't put the radio working with this device, is there any solution? by the way is there any change of put an internal antena on this device?
The O2 xda ORBIT 2 comes with the E100 and even then the reception isnt that great.
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navigation, a2dp, hands free - how to combine?

Hi there,
my next mobile phone is going to be a Topaz, but my question might apply to other devices as well.
Basically I want to feed a car radio via a2dp with music (coming from a microSD card inside the device) & navigation instructions (I prefer TomTom and Mobile Navigator, I have yet to decide which one to get in full version) and use the radio's hands free feature for phone calls.
The radio I might be getting is a Sony MEX-BT3600U (link).
My question is: how exactly do I get this scenario to work? I'm unsure whether the device has to "mute" the music and navigation instructions when calls come in or the radio uses different kinds of "channels" for a2dp and calls. Do the programs (music player and navigation) require certain functions to accomplish this?
Thanks for helping me out... and feel free to suggest other possibilities!
I have a similar, but older MEX BT deck from Sony, the MEX-BT5000. I will try to explain how it has worked with all of my WinMo devices (Hermes, Kaiser, Xperia).
It will auto pair with your device with both a standard cell phone and an A2DP connection. When using non-phone audio it will come out of your car speakers when you are in Bluetooth Audio input mode. Anytime there is a call or the phone functions are activated it will override the A2DP and you can accept the call and talk or send to voicemail. While the phone is in use normal audio will NOT come through the speakers. I think this is best because you wouldn't want TomTom yelling at everyone who calls you, or in my case have them hear my blaring music. Also the phone will override CD or Radio audio also, but A2DP will only come through when it is selected on the deck.
That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you!

FM Radio recording software

Hello,
I often attend meetings that are broadcast over FM frequency. I am wondering if anyone knows of an app that I could use to record off of the FM radio.
One of my friends has the samsung omnia, and that phone FM radio has the feature built in,, is there something like that I can use for my phone?
thanks!
Resco Pocket Radio seems to offer the ability to record from radio? I know it's a pain buying another radio programwhen the device has one built in, but there is a free trial..
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/radio/default.asp
Thanks for the reply about Resco radio. I tried that but sadly it only records from internet streaming radio, it is not an fm receiver.
I am still looking for something that can just record from the local FM frequency.
any leads?
thanks!
Atm it's not possible to record digitally directly from FM radio... It's needed a driver that drives the signal directy to the recording function. Atm that driver doesn't exist.
In the meanwhile you can use just the microphone to record any audio coming from TD2.
zooster said:
Atm it's not possible to record digitally directly from FM radio... It's needed a driver that drives the signal directy to the recording function. Atm that driver doesn't exist.
In the meanwhile you can use just the microphone to record any audio coming from TD2.
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It not working.. After starting FM radio, then I go back to the tape machine, an error message appeared:
Unable to open audio input
Please try to close other audio applications, and ask for support if that doesn't help.
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After that, I try play the FM radio first and then run the tape machine. The same arror appeared.
I hope, who have developing the call in/out recording can develop this function too.
Absolutely not
This is absolutely not the same thing lol
However, I think you can manage something if you would like to make a sacrifice
You need to have the headphones on to listen fm radio and they have a special connector to let them be detected by the htc.
You may with a small handyworks and the loose of the headphones manage to adapt something to the headphone wire. After all, what come to your ears is normal sound from a normal wire that you should be able to plug elsewhere. I never tried, I do not know if it may work but for exemple just put the wire of the headphone over the wire of the micro can work.
Refer to a hifi specialist for more info
im using Resco Pocket Radio on my mobile and it works very will for record any thing

[Q] FM Radio without headset on Android.

Hi,
I own a GT540 on Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it's possible use the FM radio without headset? It appears, on Windows Mobile, you can tweak the registry to allow this. Is there's a software level solution to make FM Radio work without headset on Android?
Yes, I'm aware that headset acts as an antenna and you need it to get a good reception. But, at times, it would be convenient to use the FM Radio without headset even if the signal is weak.
It's also possible to insert a fake plug to make it appear that a headset is present but am looking for a software solution.
On my Huawei U8110 it is enough to put in just jack, without any cables ... it works very well
DJ_Uro_UE said:
On my Huawei U8110 it is enough to put in just jack, without any cables ... it works very well
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Thanks. I know that just pushing something that fakes a headset is enough. But, am looking for a software solution.
hi ... i dnt knw yet any software like tht ... bt if u wnt to listen radio via wifi or 3g without headset so there is app called "tune In radio"
xperia9191 said:
hi ... i dnt knw yet any software like tht ... bt if u wnt to listen radio via wifi or 3g without headset so there is app called "tune In radio"
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Data is expensive here and wifi can taken granted only at home/school/office.
yes, Data is expensive. have been searching the same for awhile. no clue.
My previous Wm6.5(Aer S200) does the job.
still looking and waiting for solution
Hmm, I will try stalking AOSP when I get the time.
nibras_reeza said:
Hi,
I own a GT540 on Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it's possible use the FM radio without headset? It appears, on Windows Mobile, you can tweak the registry to allow this. Is there's a software level solution to make FM Radio work without headset on Android?
Yes, I'm aware that headset acts as an antenna and you need it to get a good reception. But, at times, it would be convenient to use the FM Radio without headset even if the signal is weak.
It's also possible to insert a fake plug to make it appear that a headset is present but am looking for a software solution.
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The app would have to support this, although hypothetically the system software could be modified to fool the app. Or if you could somehow crash or otherwise disable the code that detects headphone jack insertion events that could work.
I HAVE found this annoying with the HTC app. I've developed an FM app that doesn't have this restriction. See my sig for details.
On my HTC Legend I can receive some strong stations OK with no antenna. My HTC Desire HD does much better with no antenna.
FM radio and sampling.
This kind of post makes me wonder if sampling the mic input in some non periodic (not at an exact frequency) rate, and if the sample and hold before the ADC works fast enough, that the FM band maybe decoded by the correlation of multiple sample rates. For those without an FM radio. Exact timing of the sampling would be critical, so not sure if it could work on some devices. But anyhow, probly too much low pass on the mic input.
mikereidis said:
The app would have to support this, although hypothetically the system software could be modified to fool the app. Or if you could somehow crash or otherwise disable the code that detects headphone jack insertion events that could work.
I HAVE found this annoying with the HTC app. I've developed an FM app that doesn't have this restriction. See my sig for details.
On my HTC Legend I can receive some strong stations OK with no antenna. My HTC Desire HD does much better with no antenna.
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I tried your app but it doesn't work on my phone. Perhaps, the chipset is not supported? Do you have any idea where the trigger for headset is?
jackokring said:
This kind of post makes me wonder if sampling the mic input in some non periodic (not at an exact frequency) rate, and if the sample and hold before the ADC works fast enough, that the FM band maybe decoded by the correlation of multiple sample rates. For those without an FM radio. Exact timing of the sampling would be critical, so not sure if it could work on some devices. But anyhow, probly too much low pass on the mic input.
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Ok, was that greek? I seriously didn't get what you were saying.
duchmk and
my old xpress radio 5030 from nokia did that very well !
well, replying to the title,
is there any app/mod that can play FM without headset..?
thanks in advance.
Finally, this is possible or not..?? :/
hander13 said:
Finally, this is possible or not..?? :/
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I found it possible on my Galaxy Mini w cyanogen mod on Spirit Radio app. Signal was weak, but with bluetooth enabled it works perfectly. Now I want to have it with standard firmware, but it's impossible, because sound is going off after turning bluetooth on.
try this
this is spirit fm radio
Where can I find/buy a fake earplug to will trick my Samsung Galaxy Note II that a real headphone has plugged in?
nit3hawk said:
Where can I find/buy a fake earplug to will trick my Samsung Galaxy Note II that a real headphone has plugged in?
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i cant find singal...:/ but app is good
I found a very simple way to do this (at least on Sony Xperia with Android 6.0.1). Connect the headphones, open the stock radio app, tune to the frequency, then go to the Settings>Apps>FM Radio and click "Force Stop". Now you can unplug the headphones, the radio won't stop playing. The only problem with this is that you need to connect headphones to change the frequency.
Where to get app?
nibras_reeza said:
I tried your app but it doesn't work on my phone. Perhaps, the chipset is not supported? Do you have any idea whnere the trigger for headset is?
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Where can I get the app? Thanks!
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mikereidis said:
The app would have to support this, although hypothetically the system software could be modified to fool the app. Or if you could somehow crash or otherwise disable the code that detects headphone jack insertion events that could work.
I HAVE found this annoying with the HTC app. I've developed an FM app that doesn't have this restriction. See my sig for details.
On my HTC Legend I can receive some strong stations OK with no antenna. My HTC Desire HD does much better with no antenna.
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Where can I get the app? Thanks!

[Q] Is there a way to use BlueTooth Headset WITH internal Radio Tuner?

So a little (not at all) touted feature of the EDGE is that it contains an active FM tuner in it that can be used to access radio stations over the air. It is very weird that this is a capability that wasn't promoted as, even though this seems like old technology, the beauty of it is that it is built into the EDGE.
Why would I be so excited about this? Because, when you use iHeart or other radio apps to listen to the radio... it is delayed 30 seconds to 5 minutes or more. Not a big deal if listening to music or even talk radio... but a HUGE deal if you are wanting to listen to the radio announcer of a sporting event.
I like to listen to the radio while attending a college football game. Makes it even more interesting and now I can! BUT! The EDGE (and my home tuner) require that there is a wire connected to act as an antenna... otherwise the reception sucks.
I don't want to use a regular wired headset. I HATE wired headsets.
So the question is: Is there a dongle of sorts that could be plugged into the headset jack, that could act as the antenna without routing the audio through it? Next Radio App allows for rerouting the audio through the speaker but it doesn't also include allowing it to be routed to the Bluetooth.
I guess in writing the above I answered my own question with who I should ask next... Next Radio... but thought I'd still throw this out in case y'all know of another app that can use the internal FM Tuner AND send the audio to bluetooth.
Thanks in advance for indulging this question.
beejmeister said:
So a little (not at all) touted feature of the EDGE is that it contains an active FM tuner in it that can be used to access radio stations over the air. It is very weird that this is a capability that wasn't promoted as, even though this seems like old technology, the beauty of it is that it is built into the EDGE.
Why would I be so excited about this? Because, when you use iHeart or other radio apps to listen to the radio... it is delayed 30 seconds to 5 minutes or more. Not a big deal if listening to music or even talk radio... but a HUGE deal if you are wanting to listen to the radio announcer of a sporting event.
I like to listen to the radio while attending a college football game. Makes it even more interesting and now I can! BUT! The EDGE (and my home tuner) require that there is a wire connected to act as an antenna... otherwise the reception sucks.
I don't want to use a regular wired headset. I HATE wired headsets.
So the question is: Is there a dongle of sorts that could be plugged into the headset jack, that could act as the antenna without routing the audio through it? Next Radio App allows for rerouting the audio through the speaker but it doesn't also include allowing it to be routed to the Bluetooth.
I guess in writing the above I answered my own question with who I should ask next... Next Radio... but thought I'd still throw this out in case y'all know of another app that can use the internal FM Tuner AND send the audio to bluetooth.
Thanks in advance for indulging this question.
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Do you have the sprint model? Usually every carrier in the US except Sprint removes the FM radio to force people to stream instead. Sprint was the only carrier to have an FM radio on the Note 3 as well.
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To actually answer your question though, there is an app on the Play Store called SoundAbout. It allows you to force various audio (media, notifications, etc.) to be played through a specific output (Speakers, Bluetooth, etc.). You might give that a shot.
jooniloh said:
Do you have the sprint model? Usually every carrier in the US except Sprint removes the FM radio to force people to stream instead. Sprint was the only carrier to have an FM radio on the Note 3 as well.
EDIT:
To actually answer your question though, there is an app on the Play Store called SoundAbout. It allows you to force various audio (media, notifications, etc.) to be played through a specific output (Speakers, Bluetooth, etc.). You might give that a shot.
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Yes. I have the Sprint model. I'm going to have to now check to see if my Note 3 had the FM active. I didn't think that it was... Hmmm....
I'm going to try out SoundAbout. I just bought the PRO version as it has the BT functionality. Need to run by Radio Shack on the way home to get a short audio cable to plug in as the antenna... will report back... Thanks... again.... jooniloh.
hahahah, glad I ran across this thread. I had no idea my phone had a built in FM tuner. Just plugged in my headphones and used the NextRadio app and BAM!! there it was. Thank you

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