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Is there a fresh news about Raptorz WM5.0 saga?
I think for this time this mythical ROM can be transfered by speed 1byte/hour. So...
(found in internet space)
Oooh, fellas.
I have a WM5.0 on my Magician (friend of my friend brother, that working in HTC flash it), but i live in a small village. There is no internet, so i can't upload it. There is no post office like a DHL/FedEx/UPS... And i want to tell you more - there is no electricity and cellular providers... But i REALY HAVE IT!
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For god's sake, get over it. If it comes, great. If not, tough. What was the point to your post? Why would you bother writing this when the main thread was locked and there's another one still going?
MODS!! DELETE ME!!!! PLEASE!! (I mean this topic, not me totally!)
I just want to know - is there news.
It has been bad joke or a new hope? It's all.
I'm WAITING for WM5.0 ROM like you.
Great quote.
For all of the stfu ppl, this is a forum, remember?!
Let people talk!
If AlexXF thought it would be a relevant question to him to ask for the rom, he can ask it. If you don't like the topic, don't reply to it.
It would die if you don't.
I think one can ask whatever question he likes as long as he/she does not offend anyone else on this board.
And after 2 weeks, if asked politely, I don't see anything wrong in asking for an update. People ask so many stupid questions on other stuff, what's the surprise if someone asks for progress on such a HUGE thing?
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
Should I just ask the mods to delete your threads if they are of no use or interest to me then? Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
Hope is dying but then, hope of course, is nothing to do with whether Raptor has the ROM or not. But all the same, after arranging a pickup and such like, it appears Buzz has not been getting any further contact from Raptor (see Buzz' website: buzzdev). So either the project is dead in the water (i.e. it never really existed), or Raptor has been unable to get in touch due to whatever reason. It could be one or the other.
unlockMe said:
Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
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SOMEONE OFFERED THE ROM AND PEOPLE ARE JUST ASKING IF THIS OFFER CAN STILL BE HONOURED.
TALKING ABOUT LAZINESS, IF I WAS LAZY I WOULDN'T BE POSTING LENGHTY POSTS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WITH VARIOUS PROBLEMS THAT I THINK I COULD HELP THEM WITH.
AND WHENEVER I DO SOMETHING FOR MYSELF (EG ANIMATED CONTACT PICS, THEMES, ETC.) I'M THE FIRST ONE TO COME AND POST THEM HERE. SO IF YOU WERE REFERRING TO ME WHEN YOU USED THE WORD LAZY, KINDLY APOLOGISE.
AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO JUST VISIT THE FORUM TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET SOMETHING BUT NEVER GIVE ANYTHING ... GO FIND YOURSELVES A WINDOWS MOBILE DOWNGRADE AND LEAVE US ALONE!!!!
(Aplogies to everyone else who had to read my crap but comments like this infuriate me!)
I'm a bit more calm now ...
@unlockme, aren't you the same guy who called Gora (the guy who gave Himlaya users the WM5 ROM) a lamer?
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Minotavrs you're right, this is just bull****.
If you lookup the first screenshot, it reports 24.38MB of memory, hence obviously a smartphone.
Then, this guy shows picture of an himalaya device (by the way the picture on the wooden desktop is taken from a web site that has a review on XDA II). On these picture, it reports 128MB (normal size for a XDA II).
on my XDA II when I go the Settings / System / About it reports 125.86MB.
Don't loose your time giving credit to this lamer.
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If you owned a Himalya, I bet you made good use of the ROM!
we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
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we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
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CHILL!
cool thread 8) at least now theres a dedicated thread for complains rather than filling up the previous ones which keeps the updates as well 8) i hate it when i see the thread abt news i'm eager at sets itself to "update" and find out the update is nothing but complain, seriously
::adit
Hello all!
I’ve been reading all posts regarding this “famous” WM5 Magician ROM and has so, I’ve decided to post a small (made up) story about this situation. I hope you like it
The High Skilled liar
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Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
I’ve noticed that you’re looking for someone high skilled with a PhD, for a position has a Technical Director / CTO on your company. Has so, i’ve taken the liberty of sending you my resumé which i think, fulfils your requirements.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your excellent resumé. We are very interested on meeting you and as so, we would like to have a small meeting on next Wednesday. Please don’t forget to bring along your PhD sealed certification.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately I’ve lost my PhD sealed certification. But i’m free to meet up with you on Wednesday.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I’m afraid that we really need to see your original sealed PhD certification, since this position is of great importance. Since your resumé has exactly what we are looking for, we are willing to wait a few days for you, while you get your new copy of the original PhD diploma from your university ABC.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Unfortunately, my wife got sick and requires 24hs attention during this month. She has injured her spine and I can’t leave her alone for too long. And has so, i don’t have time for getting a new certificate due to that. So if you’re willing to accept my candidacy without the PhD, I might have a few minutes to meet you up.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I understand your situation but our company has a strict policy about contracting persons that are proven to be certified. Since your resumé caused a great impression on us, we decided to contact the University ABC that you have pointed, so to figure out a way of solving this situation. Unfortunately we couldn’t get any response about your diploma (no one knew you). We also have obtained the information that you can request it by phone, and that it will be mailed to your home. We will continue to wait for you a few days more.
P.S.: We hope that your wife is feeling better.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Thank you for your caring. I have had another situation…I’ve contacted my university but they can’t find my certificate anywhere. I’m sorry but I can’t send it to you. Besides, my car has broken and it’s hard to go meet you since there’s no easy transportation to your company. Has so, I’m must decline this proposal. Thank you for your time.
Regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Has our last offer, we are willing to meet with you at your university, if you can spare a few minutes ( btw, we hope that your wife is feeling better now) where we will sort out this situation. We just need a proof that you have a PhD, and we will accept you for the CTO position. Please, just name the day and time and we will meet there.
Regards,
A
..Needless to say, that company YXZ never got a response.
Cheers
Keeper: AMAZING!
Ehehehe. Best regards I'm still LOL for the great analogy.
Let's now keep talking about the injured woman now. That's all that matter.
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we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
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This is exactly the point why some of us are ****i'n mad.
If I was the one that came here and post "hey, I have wm5" I was commiting myself to give you some news. If I don't want to give news in the first place, I would talk directly to Buzz, as he was the guy that had the skills and the respect from the community. I think this is common sense: if you dont want to reply to questions, why the heck are you opening a topic to lauch doubt and uncertain?! Don't post it. Do something with your software that is productive, instead of talking to us, comunity.
If you really have the rom, the comunity would be better served if you STFU and send the rom to buzz in the first place (without even posting about it).
I'm now waiting here for the next raptor show up, when he will bash us because of our ingratitude, and how painfull this quest is getting to him.
If ur imagination is true, so, u will never see Raptor again, and most probably, he is surfing our forum now under a new name and reads ur posts with great fun and laughing. Now, we need Colombo (the detective) to follow the new members that joined the forum since the disappearence of raptorz and investigates all their posts, way of wriring and IPs and comparing it with that of raptors to discover his new name and give him a great kik outside the forum.
Anyway, thank u raports, u gave us some fun and brain storming and opend our imaginations.
N.B. Another senario that if were right i will feel too shame, is that raptor is now resting in a bed in a hospital somewhere in london under a salping to support his spine and cannot move by any way to write to us.
kta said:
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
... Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
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Funny, I've visited and am a member of many other forums and in each of them, the members seem to be smart enough to wait patiently for an answer. Have a read through the thread, if there's no news, move on. I am also a moderator of one of the forums, and I haven't had to delete a single post about this subject as there aren't as many clowns who keep asking.
AND... one of your so called "police" happens to be Buzz, who locked the first WM5 thread as he got sick of the flaming! Fine job that did as all the clowns just created new threads. Doesn't that tell you something?
Yeah.
We are the ones to blame, the bad guys.
The person who came here and say "hey, I have wm5 on my magician" but never give us back answers or the actual rom and was always giving us different excuses (hey, people that have kids have time for them, and people with serious injury would not take the effort to came to the internet to not give us nothing) and responding on another forums (this one blows the "maybe raptor is in hopsital and don't have internet there stuff) and refused to upload via ftp because he already has a meet with raptor messenger (he didn't give the address, so what meet was it?!) is the person that deserve respect, care, and the title of the good guy.
You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics. Let the bashers bash. It is only ONE topic. People are not taking a lot of space on xda-dev database.
Remember: you cannot control other people from posting, but you can control you so yourself can abstain from reading this post.
Why don't you do a "how's raptor health" topic? I think that would interest most of the users on the forum, so... this topic would die because of no replies.
People are constantly bashing things: broken firmwares, no support, HTC! Why can't we bash, or doubt, or whatever we want, if we discuss with correctness and without violence?
Funny thing is: people still think we don't see a wm5 rom because of the raptors injury. Maybe he is dead... He couldn't even upload a 25mb file, but he still keeped saying he was taking a huge effort to get us the file. Why didn't he upload just the first bytes of the rom?! With ftp, if he tried, at least buzz would get that info (well, if their crappy bt connection could send 416bytes on one connection... but maybe it would hang). Think this: will you still use gsm when this magic rom travel from raptor pocket to buzz? Guess not.
PS: remember that the censored guy told raptor the rom was an update to jam users, from club-imate? were on club-imate do you see the rom?
-> I keep waiting for raptor to came here and bash us ranters. he will say: "i'm sorry for being injured and for have a 3mth old kid, and you are all ungratefull". been there, saw that.
well, i think we are watching a DRAMA Movie which its title is:
"Pathetic Raptor's life and WM2005"
if i can get this WM2005 ROM i will not post any **** until i make sure that i can put my hands on it
to Raptor's People "Don't post any **** before you clean it" :x
Best regards for guys who are still waiting... :wink:
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You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics.
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Oh how boring would that be, just looking up information for my Jam, seeking help, giving help in return... blah blah blah.....
Simple fact, I love these flame wars. I really don't have an opinion either way on the whole Raptorz thing, but I'm having a really good chuckle while stirring people up! I suppose it's an Australian thing.. we all enjoy taking the piss! :lol:
And there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate... I'll let you get up on your high horse, and then I'll shoot it! :lol: :lol:
Keeper, amazing! LOL! Copied to my LJ. Thanks for a good joke.
NightmarE, you so right!
I think, there is a another way to upgrade - sell Magician and buy Atom or another new phone with WM5.0 and WiFi. It will be better.
For me personal, i'll be waiting for WM5.0 before Christmass, than just upgrade the phone
Hello.
I've been helped by xda-developers and it's members a few times, specially in elf and kaiser subjects.
I'm sure there are lots of people who should get a donation, for my part This were the first 10 (max in a poll) I tought of:
Xda-developers site
POF
duttythroy
jcespi2005
ponch92
Swiftblade
sirsycho
nomelaseS (spanish elf rom)
LEO (creator of htc cube I use)
Chainfire
Sure I'm missing lots more.
What I want to do is this. You people vote who should I donate more. Each vote is $1USD. At the end I'll donate to these people according to your votes.
The more users that vote, the more the donation and in a democratic way.
Clauses:
- I'll donate minimum $100USD (I would use percentage)
- I'll donate maximum $300USD (I would use percentage times three) but may me more.
- If it's between those sums, the number of votes
- Poll Ends February 14 (almost a whole month)
- Donations on 15 perhaps as late as 20 of feb
- Just one vote per person (consider who deserves more recognition).
- Apart from votes I may add a bit more depending on my experience.
- If some one gets less than $15USD I may omit it. Not sure yet.
Please vote!!
And if you feel like donating too, please go ahead!
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Rob
PS1. Sorry if $300 is a little (and splitted between 10, sorry).
PS2. You admins decide if it should be a sticky, more votes.
What about Xtriny? He should be on that list.
Hey folks, how can we forget the name of the person who gave it all for free...... rishi2504 .....for his Elf unlocking solution !!!
Worst thread evar.
I want to post this here also, i already made this post in the kaiser thread..
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While this may be a novel idea...
I dont paritculary feel this is necessary... Some people do not ask for donations and some do. Some people do this for fun and dont want donations as they dont feel they should recieve compensation for a hobby...
Here is the best advice i can give you on donations...
If you feel like you want to donate to someone then offer it to them directly. If they refuse the offer or the donation then make a donation to xda. well all work hand in hand and whether you donate to a person or to xda for providing us all a place, or help other members, either way you help to strengthen the community.
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Hey folks, how can we forget the name of the person who gave it all for free...... rishi2504 .....for his Elf unlocking solution !!!
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Yes I know, many post like this will come, there are many people who has gave a lot to this community, many more than 10 which is the most the poll accepts. But I don't spend much time here and don't know well everybody's aportation.
In this particular case, (elf upgrading, etc), few would know nomaless, I wanted to flash a touch to spanish, Nomaless got it and he explained me how.
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I want to post this here also, i already made this post in the kaiser thread..
summary: donate to who you want and accepts donations
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Well, i've did that once.
But you see... I feel like donating a lot to everybody... but I don't have a that much to donate. So I got to think how much to donate? Couldn't tell, so got this Idea which might make some one else donate too.
I believe all of those accepts donation, i see a lot of "if you like what I do please donate to [email protected]".
All,
I have just received a question via PM and thought that it may best be answered here in the open forum. Mods, pls move thread if it would best be located in another forum. I have posted the original question and my reply... Any thoughts, extra comments or general discussion would be appreciated... The name of the sender has been removed for their privacy...
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Hey, thanks for the great advice. I want to donate to some of the developers whose ROMS i have used, but i wasn't sure how much to give...i don't want to give too much, but also don't want to offend by giving too little. Also, i am curious at what point do you feel like u should donate...i didn't think just from trying a ROM i should feel obligated to donate, but if i have used it for a month or so or more than yeah, maybe kickin something down is the thing to do.
So, you think better way to get the keyboard problem addressed is post in the thread for the rom you want fixed, as opposed to creating a new thread asking specifically for it. See, i think some devices maybe don't have that problem (it's an ATT PTT thing?), and so some of the chefs and users aren't getting it...i THINK...or else it just surprises me how it doesn't bother more people more...i guesss maybe i actually use my phone to talk on more than some here
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Donations are always a tricky item... I completely understand about the "not enough to much" dilemma... This is how I approach it: You are not purchasing anything, you are donating to a person that shares a common interest as you... To that end, think about a small favor that a friend of yours does for you... What type of thanks would you give that friend...? For my friends, I may buy them a couple beers... I think you see my point... Any donation, is appreciated... I would check on the conversion rate for where the recipient lives, so that they can get a decent donation... I don't think that 5 or 10 of whatever their native currency is, is to much... So, if I wanted to donate approx. 5GBP to someone, it would cost me 10USD... That is enough to buy almost 3 beers in the US, not sure about the UK ratio though... I think you also have a good handle on when you may wish to donate... a month may be a good time to donate to the cook... or however long you take to decide the rom is a keeper...
As for the keyboard fix, the comment should be posted in the thread of the rom where the problem exists... Some roms do not have the problem, it really depends on which base rom the cook used and whether or not they are even aware of the problem to begin with... There are many roms that have the fix already taken care of, and many that do not... It's really a hit or miss, when you find one that you like, you can always ask the cook to repost it with the correct dll cooked in, if you really like the rom, you can always let them know how much you appreciate their work and that a donation may be forthcoming...
Debonairone...
hmm
I'd say 10-15 USD is the right donation value and I feel that one should donate if they find that the ROM is perfect for their needs
If you were to donate, i'd say the minimum would be the cost of a pint of beer in your own currency.
a small way to say thanks online.
Moved to General subforum as this isn't really tied to a specific Rom or device.
FWIW, as someone who has both sent & received donations I think that the average is from $5 - $20 depending on what efforts you are supporting, how much value you feel you got from the efforts and finally how deep your pockets are. I've received a few donations that were much higher and it is always appreciated but nobody is trying to live off donations.
In the end it's really something that changes from user to user, project to project, and even month to month as your financial situation may change.
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I'd say 10-15 USD is the right donation value and I feel that one should donate if they find that the ROM is perfect for their needs
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Not just ROMs but all Apps should be considered. There is a whole lot of great creativity in this forum.....
I have to say thnxs to those that shared their thoughts... Hopefully, someone has gained some insight as to how much they should donate, if they feel the urge to do so... I agree, as already stated, that shelling out the amount for a couple beers will always be appreciated, but as mentioned by Kyphur, your financial situation should be the final factor as to how much you want/can donate...
Thanks Debonairone
This was indeed very helpful!
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
makiss78 said:
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
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1) It wouldn't be good, the members would be put on randsom..cookers could then take advantage to mint money. I am a cooker and I can tell you that I wouldnt suggest it though I'm sure no one minds "free money".
2) if you want a great rom..contact a cooker and offer to pay them directly (you'll get through cheaper) - I'm honestly saying this, because this sort of thing happened (Ransom) for the Athena Project..no names or targets, but everything revolved around money.
3) You could go with that if you really want to though...but if flashing is the issue you could stick to a single rom and just wait...the time frame waiting on one cooker (eg. Tomal since you use his roms alot), and let him cook at his pace. If there are multiple cookers together (cartel) it will take much longer (with internal issues as well). Refer to the Athena Project....
Just my opinion since I saw alot of stuff happen on other projects...which wouldn't mind repeating here as well if we "PAID". I know its more like a contribution but once you make it clear you're going to pay or "offer money" for development...the idea of a community like xda begins to break and mess up...thats only going to make cookers and others expect to be paid for releases - if not the Universal forum the entire board and all the threads here...Cookers outside universal will follow a similar trend...the reason I started cooking was not to bother people with too many flashses but rather to design new roms and cook new things and offer to the community...
We're already paying Microsoft ( & HTC) a great deal....
I love the idea of working together on a project..but when you add money...though for the BEST INTENTIONS...they cause lots of problems..
Best Regards,
No Rom Bountys
I have to agree.
This is not the place to offer money for cooking.
Developers are here because they enjoy what they do, and enjoy sharing it with the community. Donations are fine, but offering to pay for Dev time will cause so many problems.
The main issue, and one of the reasons I have been so quiet with Rom Development for so long is that there are many users on this forum now, who seem to think they have a right to demand things from a Developer, and go as far as flaming a Developers work.
Never forget what this site was created for, for like minded "Developers" to get together to work on reverse engineering the software and improving the use, functionality and features of their devices.
There are far too many users here, who can not spend a bit of their own time reading up on the information provided (free of charge) that gives them greater knowledge and understanding of their device, it's functions and how to use the software available here.
Unfortunately the site has become full of demanding people who want a perfect Rom, exactly the way they think it should be done, and so they demand and criticise the Developers, bugging them in their threads and requesting time and time again, functionality that is not important to the particular Developer that they are targeting. This only leads to one thing, the Developers gets annoyed, loses interest and moves on to another forum or stops Developing altogether.
Feedback from users is great on the work that we do, the site would be useless without user feedback, but all said and done, we are all here to better our knowledge and help others resolve their problems.
We do not provide a software customisation and "help me un brick my device, because I can't be assed to read the Wiki" service.
All in all if you wish to have a Rom customised to your own needs and are willing to pay for it, them PM one of the senior Developers who's been around for a while and ask politely if they would be interested in doing so for you. I doubt you would get much response though as most of us do it for the community, not the individual.
There are plenty of people who sell roms on Ebay, perhaps you could ask them too. (although most of what they sell has been hijacked from here)
All the Developers here, share ideas and information on bugfixes, tweaks and porting issues, that's the idea of the community.
Rant over.
Cheers,
Beasty
I also agree it is a bad idea to let the 'money' element come into the community. I have personally seen devs and testers get burned because things went sore cause of 'immature testers/users' or 'deva-devs' who think they are the best and don't open up to the idea of sharing for the common good.
At the end of the day it really boils done to what motivates a person to do what they do. Allow me to be the first to say that this board is one of the best on the WEB...I consider it one of my virtual homes because I have made a few friends alone the way and learned a lot of crap too
I donate because I want to help, that's my way of saying to the community I appreciate all the 'love' and keep up the good work. Also, because it is my 'home' I want to see it improve. I have also engaged a few 'devs' direct when I wanted a particular cab built or a rom tweaked...so maybe you can do that (but of course manners maketh the man) however you need to show respect and not come off as a jerk
Cheers...
Youmeus
Agree!
Hi
I´m just a simple user, but since I got to this fantastic forum I´ve tried to READ, LEARN & RESPECT others people hard work for the UNI´s.
I think ROM devs have a lot of patience on all of us that only demmand things from them, if in some point they get tired of all of us, this forum and our UNI´s would be death.
I kindly ask all normal and simple users as me to respect Devs not asking so many things but yes contributing with feedback to their important work.
Let´s keep moving forwards and with good energy!
Best to all
Gracias
i don't agree with that idea of paying the cookers. it is because i believe they cook out of their passion to share and to improve themselves, not to earn a living.
money cant buy their hard works........
makiss78 said:
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
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hmm, i don't believe if the cookers are motivated by money
i just believe that they are motivated by fun and sharing with others
money they got does not enough for their hard works and their knowledge has been sharing
honestly, i want make donation for them, for their fun shared for me
but, i never make donation for them, because i don't have any paypal account to make it possible
and, to appreciate what they have done
i never think that one ROM is better than the others, no ROM is best
because it has been developed by their fun and knowledge, to be shared to others
and, hey, sorry
if you don't like what they've done, just leave this forum
just take it or leave it, easy
alfa2005 said:
hmm, i don't believe if the cookers are motivated by money
i just believe that they are motivated by fun and sharing with others
money they got does not enough for their hard works and their knowledge has been sharing
honestly, i want make donation for them, for their fun shared for me
but, i never make donation for them, because i don't have any paypal account to make it possible
and, to appreciate what they have done
i never think that one ROM is better than the others, no ROM is best
because it has been developed by their fun and knowledge, to be shared to others
and, hey, sorry
if you don't like what they've done, just leave this forum
just take it or leave it, easy
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hey that was just my opinion, I didn't say smth about our cookers, and I 'm thankfull for their hard work.
I have more than 3 different ppc's (UNI,WIZARD,HIMA and htc3600) and I can make a comparison to htc's roms that is good working or not. BUT THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. The thought of my post is just for a competition of cookers and the money is an award for their work (and maybe a try from other device's cooker/developers). Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong.
Everyone have to say their thoughts without shouting and without offend ANYONE. Thats Democracy.
It's my decision If I leave or not this forum.
makiss78 said:
...is just for a competition of cookers and the money is an award for their work (and maybe a try from other device's cooker/developers).
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i think that's the point of many of us here. There is no room for COMPETITION here. this site is built for each one of us to HELP each other, the developers/cookers learn from the feedbacks, the end-users benefit from the output of the cookers. if you want it to be like a CONTEST, cookers themselves will not share their ideas to other cookers. They will not help other developers since only one cooker will win in your "competition"...
i bought the Uni for profess. work -- but feel like a beta tester
hallo michalis031,
maybe good idea. I bought the Uni to earn money -- intended to help me to become more efficient.
Result?
- System (too) often hangs or reboots (no error messages!)
- active sync does not work properly (sometimes o.k., minutes later errors )
- callers often only hear my 30s-answering machine -- slow respond to incoming calls (!!)
... only to mention the most annoying subjects...
Who has better ideas to make this great little machine a real professional one?? I am ready to pay for excellent work -- and this is the only thing i expect to get.
makiss78 said:
Well its 2 July 2008, its a really hot day (here in Greece) and I am tired of flashing more and more ROMS to my UNI. It's not only flashing but the boring procedure of installing software. If you see the other devices forum, the people there more happy with the releases (just see the small brother of our UNI, wizard (qtek9100 etc) it has many roms that are years after Universal roms. We have the problem that we have VGA screen, but I thing we can do smth better.
Can we make a team of donators (and testers both) and invite any cooker that will make a GREAT rom for everyone????
example:
If 50 users donate 20$ each = 1000$ = a good motive for cookers.
The name of the rom would be UCP (Universal Conspiracy Project) + the name of the cooker/team.
I 'm waiting your opinion and ........members
Up the UNIVERSAL
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ulli99 said:
hallo michalis031,
maybe good idea. I bought the Uni to earn money -- intended to help me to become more efficient.
Result?
- System (too) often hangs or reboots (no error messages!)
- active sync does not work properly (sometimes o.k., minutes later errors )
- callers often only hear my 30s-answering machine -- slow respond to incoming calls (!!)
... only to mention the most annoying subjects...
Who has better ideas to make this great little machine a real professional one?? I am ready to pay for excellent work -- and this is the only thing i expect to get.
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Hi ulli99,
Tomal V7.7 is the answer to your question
Tomal V8.0 still under scrutinize.
Wish List
Opera 9.5 1123 (stable version)
Diamond CommManager
Diamond QWERTY & XT9 keyboards multi-language (the real ones!)
Diamond Large Menu/Large Title bar.
Diamond Volume control
Diamond Adobe Reader LE
Diamond MP3 Trimmer
Diamond RandomAccess (in Contacts)
Diamond Alerts/Ringtones
Cheers!
iamwin said:
i think that's the point of many of us here. There is no room for COMPETITION here. this site is built for each one of us to HELP each other, the developers/cookers learn from the feedbacks, the end-users benefit from the output of the cookers. if you want it to be like a CONTEST, cookers themselves will not share their ideas to other cookers. They will not help other developers since only one cooker will win in your "competition"...
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Very true.... right on the mark.
I have to agree with the majority on here, as a tinkerer I find that the forum is very expansive to those that are willing to read and not just post "help me unbrick my uni" posts.
If I had the techincal skills and time I would love to start cooking, but most of all I would do this for the good of the forum and not to line my own pockets. I hope I am right in asuming that the majority of cookers are profesional coders in another line of work and do this for the fun of the chalenge, this is very admirable.
Also the lack of finacial incentives and deadlines allows the dev's the chance to tweak and bug fix to the level that they wish and not just to get by with what they can do in the time space.
In reply to the post "I bought mine for business", I would say that you made a mistake to consider unlecking and adding new roms if you were to rely on the uni to help you earn money. I also got my 2 uni's for business, one is a test bed of software from this forum and my main phone / pda, the other is left as OEM just to be sure I have a totally working Uni.
Please dont push the dev's into not enjoying what they do best. Keep ROM's free, but if you wish to pay just give them a donation. Im sure they would thank you for it.
Dave.
Hello munkey_bwy,
I appreciate your opinion. Thx.
Bought a 2nd Uni with WM5, installed patches to add some missing WM6 functions, and even my 100+ programs. It runs with an acceptable speed. I am really happy.
Hello there for those who feel up to the task i am seeking for help preferably from someone that works on this website and i hope that by me making this request its not going get me in trouble of any kind. I am writing this with all the respect to the website administrators and members of the XDA-DEVELOPERS.
I am seeking some one that i could either send my phone to or could help me over the internet step by step on how to change things on my blackberry storm and my at&t fuse. I send it long time ago to a guy but for X or Y reason i haven’t heard back from him and I would really like to have this done. you may ask why don’t I do it my self well honestly i have try before but instead i just end up ruining 2 cell phones and they aren’t cheap and i am not rich. I go to school and have a full time job that takes a lot of my time, and i am not great with computers. I am not completely dumb but i do have a huge reading with problem because of an accident.
again I apologize if some how i manage to break any of the XDA-DEVELOPERS rules by making a request like this but i would really like to have this done.
send me a message if you are interested and thank you and have a great day.
zimzum83 said:
Hello there for those who feel up to the task i am seeking for help preferably from someone that works on this website and i hope that by me making this request its not going get me in trouble of any kind. I am writing this with all the respect to the website administrators and members of the XDA-DEVELOPERS.
I am seeking some one that i could either send my phone to or could help me over the internet step by step on how to change things on my blackberry storm and my at&t fuse. I send it long time ago to a guy but for X or Y reason i haven’t heard back from him and I would really like to have this done. you may ask why don’t I do it my self well honestly i have try before but instead i just end up ruining 2 cell phones and they aren’t cheap and i am not rich. I go to school and have a full time job that takes a lot of my time, and i am not great with computers. I am not completely dumb but i do have a huge reading with problem because of an accident.
again I apologize if some how i manage to break any of the XDA-DEVELOPERS rules by making a request like this but i would really like to have this done.
send me a message if you are interested and thank you and have a great day.
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I think it´s no need to pay
XDA-DEVS is a developing community that helps everyone with no other interest, for your at&t fuze aka Raphael try to enter here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=437
And once you have detected the software or app you want ask to the OP to get help. A donation to the developer or to XDA site is more welcome than ofering to pay.
Good luck,
zimzum
PM me with what you'd like to do,
i will give you my messenger address and help you with whatever you need step by step
thanks guys
i just send you the PM nir36 and thanks, but orb3000 but like i told you ive try to do the stuff my self or with out orientation and end up loosing two phones. yea the first one was un upgrade tru at&t for $200.00 and the second one had to pay full retail $520.00 at the time and broke that one so i am scared one because i am not rich and second because i don't know if i am just to stupid or what but for X or Y reason can seem to be able to do stuff that is easy to you guys and i give yall props for that yall are awesome. I hope you know where i am coming from and see why i am willing to pay for the service and dont worry i will keep in mind the donation tot he website witch ive done in the past and i love this website same as smartphonejunkies.com.
Thanks for your guys help thank a lot and hope yall are able to help me with this.
Keep the faith ....
True....we are a community built on labours of love, and it is better to donate to the site. My wife has dyslexia, but since she got into playing with PPCs and perusing this site, has become rather adept at modding AND reading. We all will be glad to help, just PM me.
After all, what is a community for?