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sda with real internet browser?

Is there a way to put a real web browser on the sda?
If not ,what phone will?
Is firefox mobile good?

The closest thing I've seen to a real web browser on a Microsoft phone is the Picsel browser for the touchscreen phones.
It can't hold a candle to iPhone's Safari, so I've been told.

Opera mini can show pages like that. The only problem is that some scripts are disabled. Other than that pages look more or less the same as they would look on desktop. It also reduces the amount of loading time.
Other browser was Microsoft Deepfish, but there is not much news about that one.

sda?
Will any of these browsers work on sda?
Just interested in streaming the site "slacker".com
Are they safe?

2nd on Opera Mini, its great and amazingly fast. It makes mobile browsing awesome esp once you get to know the shortcuts, and esp when you like to go back and forward through your history a lot. Its soo damned fast at that. Just make sure you get Mini, not Mobile.

ohh streaming is another story...I know there are some streaming video options/flv options. I just haven't kept up with those options. I'm sure if you did a search on playing youtube, you'd come up with something.

But if you could deal w/not using Slacker.com. These two sites are formatted for mobile use and work excellently in Pocket IE.
http://pda.mobiletopsoft.com/tv-radio.php#Music
http://radiotime.com/Mobile/Index.aspx
Radiotime has real radio stations and a really cool format that allows you to change stations and genres using your joystick.

iPhone gets iheartradio for Clear Channel radio. What can WM users do?

Long time WM user that can appreciate the iPhone and iPod Touch ability to listen to ClearChannel radio stations "online". But I don't understand why Windows Mobile is being left out.
If we can watch YouTube videos, certainly we have the horsepower for radio. Does anyone else have this problem? Better yet, have a solution that works? Would love to get my local Sports Radio station on my Touch Cruise, but not even Skyfire works for me.

Well, still no luck. I found a website that tracks radio stations around the US and even internationally, but there is no link to Sports Radio 950 KJR (www.kjram.com) and I can't find a link anywhere else but their own home page, which won't work with Opera or Skyfire.
Currently running one of c_s rom's, which doesn't come with IE. Thought maybe adding IE 6.1 would help, but haven't found a link yet. Anyone know how I can add that to an existing rom?
Off to do more searching, but pretty soon I suppose I should just break down and buy an iPod Touch.

from your Touch Cruise:
www.theStreamCenter.com/pda/
Works in pIE, Opera 8.65 and Opera Mini. Not sure if it needs pIE to actually open the radio station's link though, since it's built into the ROM on my Polaris.
I searched for your station 950 kjr and found it if it's located in Seattle (did not find it when I searched kjr 950 - go figure). However, never got it to connect. Immediately tried a ClearChannel station I listen to and it connected perfectly. Don't know if 950 kjr link is bad or if the station was not broadcasting. Perhaps, it was a blackout due to a game or something like that? Give it a try and see if you have better luck.
ps...
Tried to stream the station on my laptop via the kjram.com website (NOT through streamcenter.com) and it did not work either. Looks like maybe they are having problems at the moment and hopefully it'll work when you try.
Good luck!

Still looking for pIE I can add to my current WM6 rom. The author didn't include pIE as part of the "image". I also tried your link, and in Opera I couldn't find any part of the KJR AM page I could "click" on. So I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong if not just using the wrong browser.
Not having ANY luck and not sure what else to try.

Wunder radio was supposed to come out on January 15th. It supposedly has 50,000 radio stations. I'm hoping clear channel will be part of that.
I can stream clear channel stations through IE on my PC but PIE says it can't do it. Opera Mobile gets close but won't actually play the music.
I can stream some stations that aren't clear channel using Opera, and I can stream NPR after downloading the .asx link and selecting it with TCPMP.

Can't help with how to get pIE on your phone since you are using a ROM without it. All I can tell you is I stream Clear Channel stations (all others too) by going to:
www.thestreamcenter.com/pda
Then searching for the station. Once you find your station you can save it as a favorite and access it much easier.
On the front page of www.thestreamcenter.com/pda it says...
"Clear Channel Stream Announcement:
PDA users can now exclusively access Clear Channel live streams directly from the Mobile Stream Center! (Thanks Bret!). The streams and this announcement are not displayed on desktop PCs."
Clear Channel stations stream via Windows Media Player by default.
No jumping through hoops. Nothing needed that doesn't come built into Windows Mobile by default.
FYI, I am sitting here streaming/listening to your KJR 950 on my phone as I'm typing. Costas is interviewing Matt Cheney regarding drug testing in the NFL...
Good luck!

Okay, so I'm a dork. Had pIE installed and didn't know it, as it was only under the menu and nowhere else.
Started that up, found it's in mobile mode instead of "look like a PC mode" like I think Opera does, and finally saw the links like you mention! Thought I was home free until...
Had some funny language prompting me. Hit one side, and ended up with a save screen. The file saved made a .php file I think, and I can't figure out how to get Window Mobile's Media Player to open it. The other options all didn't seem to do much of anything, and Pocket Streamer on my phone didn't do a .php either!
I'll play some more, as I *think* I'm close... but I'm not there yet.

Got it!
Turned off automatic language detection in pIE, then when I went back to the link, it prompted me to save a .wma file that DOES stream in Windows Media Player. And I've saved the link as a Playlist as well!
Thanks for all the help!!!!

Glad you got something to work!
Just to clarify, the browser needs to be in mobile mode, otherwise the Clear Channel "WMP PDA only" links will not show up. I noticed when I click on a link for a station that streams via mp3, it saves a .pls file to the "My Device\My Documents" folder - but, it happens automatically. I am not prompted and don't have to approve the save. It just saves itself, then starts playing using the TCPMP player. I have not noticed any file - of any type - like that when I play a Clear Channel station. However, it's totally possible it may just save a file of some type somewhere that I have not come across. After clicking the Clear Channel "PDA Only" link, Windows Media Player opens automatically, the stream buffers and then plays. I have not come across any .wma streams to see how that kind works on my phone.

Clearchannel Streaming Utility for Windows Mobile Devices.. Works in IE.. Doesn't seem to work in Opera, though it may be the link I'm providing.. I may possibly work on this and see if I can get it to work in Opera.
http://www.verrigan.net/cchannel.php
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This utility scans the website for the clearchannel stream.. It then gives you the then-current stream URL for that radio station. It should open the stream in Windows Media Player. (in IE.. Not with Opera)
BTW, the utility is not strictly for use on Windows Mobile, but not many other phones use mms URLs for streaming as far as I could tell. It does, however, stream on regular PCs running Windows or Linux (with a MMS stream media player).

if you want most uk radio stations use coreplayer or the htc stream app , head over to www.musicradio.com and choose your favorite radio , note down the url and you get perfect streaming eg for GWR Bristol its http://media-ice.musicradio.com/GWRBristolMP3 LBC is the same address but ends with LBC973MP3Low , if you have an ipod touch or an iphone you can download an app called radio which is poor in visuals but shows the url to the stations which you can type into your streaming app , or in pie head over to pdatuner.com this has all the stations as well but in lower 64 quality

Clear Channel is now blocking themediastream.com from streaming their radio stations?

yup, stay tuned to see if they work it out

just came across this old post, appears to be worked out

Did we ever get this figured out? Most of the Local Stations I listen to are Clear Channel Stations....Do they just not care that there are probably many more WM users out here then Iphone users? Or did they make some sort of exclusive deal with Iphone? I was using the http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda method for a while and then nothing...it seems like they intentionally don't want WM users to have access to there online stream!

I just fired this email off to the Communications / Media Relations contact at ClearChannel
"To Whom it may concern,
I am just wondering why, it seems, that Clear Channel seems to have abandoned Millions of Windows Mobile users and Welcomed the "Trendy" but yet less used IPhone/Blackberry users? You have embraced and are Pushing the use of "IHeart Radio" on all your radio stations, Yet this program only works on IPhone's and I think Blackberry Phones, So us Window Mobile users are left "Swinging in the Breeze"!
Then when we find a way around your "Lack of Support" by using a website like http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda and You slap us in the face again and shut down your stream to such websites....What Gives?
I am a loyal listener of at least two of your stations in the Cleveland Area, One FM and one AM station, and when I am not near a radio it would be really nice to be able to hear your show on my PDA, but I am forced to listen to other stations sub-standard programming because you at ClearChannel seem to have an "Issue" with Windows Mobile for some reason! I just read an online news report that stated that IPhone users have up'd your listener base by 15%....I think you will up it much more then that if you included support for Windows Mobile Users!
I apologise for the Rant if I have just missed something and am totally off base about your support for WM, If so please advise me of a program that you know of that does allow us access to your online programming.
If I have to keep going out and finding other Radio Stations that support WM online, then I might find programming that I like and abandon ClearChannel all together, after all why have loyalty to a company that has no loyalty to a large group of it's listeners!"
Well see if I get a response!

2+ months later... no response?

gkenny said:
2+ months later... no response?
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Yea...They responded, Life just got hectic for me and forgot to post their responce here....To sum it up they basically gave me a couple good strokes by saying that they are always looking to improve their product and that the Windows Mobile Platform would definately be in "Consideration" for future versions...blah....blah...blah!
Sorry I did not follow up sooner!
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Never mind... Streamcenter works once again.

Good to know....I'll have to give it a try again!

Is it possible to use Skyfire to watch iPlayer material?

Sorry if this is an idiot newbie question but I'm curious: can one use Skyfire to watch flash videos from the desktop-PC version of BBC iPlayer? I've tried using Pocket Internet Explorer, and that initially looks like it's going to work - the counter starts to tick over as if the video were playing - but there's no actual picture. Using Skyfire it complains that I'm trying to access iPlayer from a non-UK site (presumably because the Skyfire proxy server is outside the UK) - is there any way around this?

And yes, I know all about using myplayer and the user-agent hack in Opera. It's specifically desktop (rather than mobile) iPlayer material I'm interested in.

yes u can play iplayer from skyfire but dont like to watch in there tho

The answer you want is 'yes', so long as you are in the uk, since Skyfire now uses localised proxy servers. Video quality isn't all that great in Skyfire but I watched a whole episode of BBC Click without any major issues.

myPlayer does a very good job of sorting out iPlayer streams for you; it can also download higher quality videos.

leoni1980 said:
The answer you want is 'yes', so long as you are in the uk, since Skyfire now uses localised proxy servers.
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Okay. How?

HTML5 music streaming websites?

Anyone know of any websites using HTML5 to stream music? Pandora is going to update their website to HTML5 soon, but was just wondering if there are any good legal websites streaming using HTML5 for the time being.
something like this>>
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/mobile/HTML5/Audio/Default.html

There is one MS used to demo HTML5 on IE9 - don't recall what it was, but since it wasn't in English, it was pretty much unusable to me. I got it to play something though, and it worked as promised.
But right now I am dissapointed with the lack of HTML5 content on the web. And also it looks like some sites have odd implementations of it. Vimeo HTML5 player, for example, does not work on WP, but does work on the desktop version of IE9. I think the problem is on Vimeo's end - checking for browsers, and not allowing HTML5 to work on browsers not explicitly supported by Vimeo.

The one which MS demoed is already linked in my OP, was just wondering if there were websites using that tech.
I just figured there would be plenty of html5 websites since the iOS devices so not support flash, but I guess flash still rules the web.

https://droptun.es/ has a html5 version of their service (you'll have to link your dropbox account, if you have one, with it, or create one)
Haven't tried it on mango yet but in theory you'll be able to listen to your music while multitasking.

Its no HTML5 support in: 7661.WP7_5_Trial.
Are your just going to test it on your pc ?
to answer you question found this site:
http://myousic.me/play/#playlist

Pyls said:
Its no HTML5 support in: 7661.WP7_5_Trial.
Are your just going to test it on your pc ?
to answer you question found this site:
http://myousic.me/play/#playlist
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Ehm there is HTML5 support, http://beat.no/ works pretty well, but don't think u can listen to full songs.
Saw some Swedish guy demo this site a way back on wmpoweruser.

Pyls said:
Its no HTML5 support in: 7661.WP7_5_Trial.
Are your just going to test it on your pc ?
to answer you question found this site:
http://myousic.me/play/#playlist
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IE9 Mobile on Mango beta supports HTML5 and IMO is better than even the desktop version of IE9 Try the Mobile IE9 test drive site, its amazing.

Pandora if you're a One subscriber all users within a couple weeks. Just pin it to your start screen and you're good to go!
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You can view youtube vids in your browser. Just enable html5 on youtube, works perfectly for me.
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jango on mango
try Jango.com .. its working in mango.. and im loving it

HTML5 vs Adobe....what's the difference?

I can't quite get whats the difference between the two.

Someone else may be able to give you a much more detailed explanation but I will try to make it simple. Adobe Flash is a proprietary plugin for browsers, this plugin does enable a lot of rich browser content. But at the same time because it is proprietary it hinders web development by somewhat limiting what you can do and just how you can do things with web browser, websites, and some applications.
HTML5 is not proprietary and is also something that is included in the native code of browsers, websites, and other applications. This means it is not a plugin so it can work more fluidly with whatever software it is being used in as well as being able to allow developers to have more control over their work. Also just as Adobe Flash, HTML5 encompasses a lot more than just playing video content.
If you have not already looked it up I suggest you take a minute to have a read at the two links below as well as doing further research of your on.
Adobe Flash
HTML5

Flash is a proprietary plugin from Adobe that implements various advances animation and video features. For a long time it's been really the only reasonably standard way to do this sort of sophisticated content on the web. It however has a long history of security problems and other quality problems.
HTML5 is a newer version of various standards that go into basic web pages. It adds certain advanced animation, content, styling, and scripting features that bring a regular browser without a plugin closer to the rendering capability of flash. However, it's not really 100% there as there's some key missing features.
Apple refused to support flash in iphone because they're assholes basically and now Adobe is abandoning mobile flash entirely. So HTML5 is going to be the future even though it's not really 100% ready yet.

html5 is coming with browser but adobe u should install on browser and flash make browser runing heavier and take more cpu usage but html5 its designed to be simple and avoid great effect on cpu usage, which is better to us as android users that many of us have cpu problem.
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Jwtiyar said:
html5 is coming with browser but adobe u should install on browser and flash make browser runing heavier and take more cpu usage but html5 its designed to be simple and avoid great effect on cpu usage, which is better to us as android users that many of us have cpu problem.
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readams said:
Flash is a proprietary plugin from Adobe that implements various advances animation and video features. For a long time it's been really the only reasonably standard way to do this sort of sophisticated content on the web. It however has a long history of security problems and other quality problems.
HTML5 is a newer version of various standards that go into basic web pages. It adds certain advanced animation, content, styling, and scripting features that bring a regular browser without a plugin closer to the rendering capability of flash. However, it's not really 100% there as there's some key missing features.
Apple refused to support flash in iphone because they're assholes basically and now Adobe is abandoning mobile flash entirely. So HTML5 is going to be the future even though it's not really 100% ready yet.
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T-Macgnolia said:
Someone else may be able to give you a much more detailed explanation but I will try to make it simple. Adobe Flash is a proprietary plugin for browsers, this plugin does enable a lot of rich browser content. But at the same time because it is proprietary it hinders web development by somewhat limiting what you can do and just how you can do things with web browser, websites, and some applications.
HTML5 is not proprietary and is also something that is included in the native code of browsers, websites, and other applications. This means it is not a plugin so it can work more fluidly with whatever software it is being used in as well as being able to allow developers to have more control over their work. Also just as Adobe Flash, HTML5 encompasses a lot more than just playing video content.
If you have not already looked it up I suggest you take a minute to have a read at the two links below as well as doing further research of your on.
Adobe Flash
HTML5
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Thanks for the responses. I did look into it but I still couldn't get what the difference so that was why I asked here. Now I understand. Last question, with HTML5, will we be able to view flash videos?

afgwahid1994 said:
Thanks for the responses. I did look into it but I still couldn't get what the difference so that was why I asked here. Now I understand. Last question, with HTML5, will we be able to view flash videos?
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You can't view "flash videos" but there are HTML5 videos. The problem with this is that there's no standard video codec which is implemented in all HTML5 browsers which has limited adoption of HTML5 video. Also, there are still some major missing elements like fullscreen support that are starting to trickle in. The Onion for example is using HTML5 video on its site, however.

HTML5 and Flash are two completely different things, HTML5 is markup language you are writing webpages in, Flash on the other hand is a Rich Internet Application you can "fancy/enhance" your webpage with (yet you still need HTML to implement it) but:
Theres no difference in either of these by video managing, Adobe (originaly Macromedia) Flash is ONE OF MANY ways how to embeed video for online streaming, due to its popularity it became kind of standard (even for RIA), in HTML5 W3C came with own - sort of embeeding - of video formats for online streaming with a <video> tag (eventhough the initial purpose was completely different), both these solutions have same goal, embeed a video online, HTML5 has one, lets call it advantage, its a worldwide standard for everybody (W3C compliant), unlike Flash (RichInternetApplication), furthermore, some (we all know which) browser/s, are incompatible with it. So HTML5 embeeding and Flash embeeding is basically the same, Flash embeeds videos using action/lua scripts, whereas HTML5 embeeds videos using HTML tag, both of these video embeeding styles will die under the wheels of crossbrowse supported jQuery sooner or later anyway.
Analogy: Its like comparing Mercedes and Audi, they have different engines, but both have same purpose, to transport people from place A to place B, that exactly goes for Flash vs HTML5 video thing.
so far supported in HTML5 are H264 (MP4 format), WebM (VP8 format), OGG (Vorbis) with either ogg or aac audio