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What phone to buy (TYTN 2 or TOUCH PRO)

First of all let me apologize if this topic is in the wrong section.
Ok , now that i have that sorted here's my problem.
I wanted to buy an HTC phone on ebay. Had an HTC a while back the first TyTN and lost it (I know.....kill me )
Now i pretty much narrowed it down to HTC TyTN 2 and Touch pro.
Is the touch pro really worth that much more money wise i dunno and therefore i cant make up my mind.
Please help me out. Should i buy TyTN 2 or wait till new touch pro 2 comes out and maybe 1st one will be cheaper to buy on ebay.
In my country (Bosnia) there are no plans with gsm operators unless you going for a stupid Nokia.
Thanx in advance

all depends on what you need. the touch pro is a wonderful device.... useful.. TV out, good camera, flash... a tad slow GPS.. but it's VGA, with a keyboard... and much more..
the kaiser has less memory, is a QVGA, slower processor, larger and heavier.. doesn't have a TV Out...

thanx for the advice. Hopefully touch pro 2 will be out and then i can afford the current touch pro.

well.... i know a man with a Touch Cruise for sale...............
sorry.... my bad!

yeh, go for the touch pro or the touch pro2!

Just go to the marketplace forum and try getting a Touch Pro... they are selling for a good price.

Buying Advice Requested From Those Who Are Smarter Than Me

At the end of the summer, I'm hoping to buy a new HTC phone. I don't have a data plan (I rely on Wi-Fi), so it doesn't matter if it has European or American 3G frequencies, I just need it to work with AT&T (GSM).
I was hoping to get one of the following:
HTC Touch 3G (cheapest)
HTC Touch Diamond2 (sexiest)
HTC Touch HD (biggest)
I have an LG Incite, and I'm hoping to upgrade to a quality phone. I can barely stand this POS. Spocky, his ROM developments, and this forum are really the only reasons I can even use it. I would really prefer the HTC Touch HD because I want a large phone due to my large stature, and I want the Touch 3G because I'd prefer not to spend too much. And the Touch Diamond2 is just hot.
Any and all suggestions are welcome, even if they're not on the list.

I´m not sure I´m smarter than you, but I would say go for Diamond 2!

Well, rumor has it (and by rumor I mean official documentation) that the Diamond2 is coming to AT&T, so that could be a win.

Yes I heard that, also TP2 will come to that provider

I would probably prefer that, actually, as I'm all for hard keyboards. Though it currently costs an arm and a leg.
Probably two legs now, seeing as how the value of most currencies are decreasing right now, including limbs.

chad.pflughaupt said:
At the end of the summer, I'm hoping to buy a new HTC phone. I don't have a data plan (I rely on Wi-Fi), so it doesn't matter if it has European or American 3G frequencies, I just need it to work with AT&T (GSM).
I was hoping to get one of the following:
HTC Touch 3G (cheapest)
HTC Touch Diamond2 (sexiest)
HTC Touch HD (biggest)
I have an LG Incite, and I'm hoping to upgrade to a quality phone. I can barely stand this POS. Spocky, his ROM developments, and this forum are really the only reasons I can even use it. I would really prefer the HTC Touch HD because I want a large phone due to my large stature, and I want the Touch 3G because I'd prefer not to spend too much. And the Touch Diamond2 is just hot.
Any and all suggestions are welcome, even if they're not on the list.
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HTC Touch Diamond 2 ... the 3.5 adapter is basically the only con....

That's really why I want the Touch HD.
With the death of my Zune (I think it got kicked in the chest by Charlie Murphy), my phone has been my main MP3 player. And I could never lose my Zune Premium headphones.

What i should buy?

Hi all..
again this very same question..
my first PPC was a QTEK 9090 (from audiovox), it was so fast and reliable that i have fallen in love with it, but its only CDMA and i needed GSM, so i decided to move on and upgrade to one more complete, the HP hw6945 (AKA Htc Sable), and i'm so disappointed with it.. its freacking slow, it hangs all the time, and now out of the sudden it stopped working.. the complete opposite from the QTEK....so, i'm going to buy a new one, this time, with more research .. and i hope to have more good times with this new one..
what i'm looking foward is a good sized screen, fast cpu, gps, reliability!!.
so, what u guys recomend to me?
i have seen some on the net..
htc touch pro
sony xperia
nokia n97
what else??? please give me your opinion and suggestions.
thankss

Welcome to forums
Have a look to:
Touch Pro 2
Toshiba TG01
HTC Hero
For mentioning just some...
Or wait till the end of the year, great devices will be announced!
Good luck,

nexusbr said:
Hi all..
again this very same question..
my first PPC was a QTEK 9090 (from audiovox), it was so fast and reliable that i have fallen in love with it, but its only CDMA and i needed GSM, so i decided to move on and upgrade to one more complete, the HP hw6945 (AKA Htc Sable), and i'm so disappointed with it.. its freacking slow, it hangs all the time, and now out of the sudden it stopped working.. the complete opposite from the QTEK....so, i'm going to buy a new one, this time, with more research .. and i hope to have more good times with this new one..
what i'm looking foward is a good sized screen, fast cpu, gps, reliability!!.
so, what u guys recomend to me?
i have seen some on the net..
htc touch pro
sony xperia
nokia n97
what else??? please give me your opinion and suggestions.
thankss
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Depends on Carrier.. You said GSM So its either ATT or TMO
If TMO Get the new MyTouch
if ATT Get a HTC Branded Magic
There basically the same phone except that the Magic branded device has more ram & will work on ATT 3g Instead of TMO 3g.. & Although I would like the extra ram its not worth giving up 3g since I am a tmo Cust..
& If android isnt your cup of tea then get the Touch Pro or Diamond (or the #2 versions of each, but I am not a fan of the new styling & love the pocketability (is that a word) of the original diamond).

bastage said:
Depends on Carrier.. You said GSM So its either ATT or TMO
If TMO Get the new MyTouch
if ATT Get a HTC Branded Magic
There basically the same phone except that the Magic branded device has more ram & will work on ATT 3g Instead of TMO 3g.. & Although I would like the extra ram its not worth giving up 3g since I am a tmo Cust..
& If android isnt your cup of tea then get the Touch Pro or Diamond (or the #2 versions of each, but I am not a fan of the new styling & love the pocketability (is that a word) of the original diamond).
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i`m on brazil, so dunno if its ATT or TMO....

nexusbr said:
i`m on brazil, so dunno if its ATT or TMO....
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Neither.. I assumed you were in the US.. Whatever carrier you get should use the Same bands as AT&T though so my recomendation for them follows.. Also the hero is a solid device with identical specs but doesn't have the trackball.. Personally I like the Magic styling better..

If you can hold out for a bit, I suggest you wait another 3-4 months. Right now, most of the phones that you will see are ~528 mhz. By the end of this year, the SnapDragon chipset will come out (1 GHZ). Mostly all the phones mentioned above are all 528. If you can wait a little longer, you can get double the speed for ~$200 extra.

Hello to all...
I am new here and my name is Allen and i would suggest same as Orb3000 that
You must have a look to:
Touch Pro 2
Toshiba TG01
HTC Hero

I have a question about possible trade - Tilt2 for Touch HD?

Would anyone trade a Touch HD for a Tilt 2?
I'm not looking for a trade, just wondering.
Thanks

Moved to Q&A as not marketplace since no trade or sale.

stylez said:
Moved to Q&A as not marketplace since no trade or sale.
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Oh, ok. Yeah I couldn't figure out which one of the 2 to put it in.
Thanks

S2000Peter said:
Would anyone trade a Touch HD for a Tilt 2?
I'm not looking for a trade, just wondering.
Thanks
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If someone offered a Tilt2 for a Touch HD it would be his or her dream come true.
There is nothing on the Touch HD that is better than the Tilt2...
The only thing that the Touch HD has compared to the Tilt2 is the damn 3.5 mm headphone jack. Are you serious about the trade? Cause your question doesn't make sense.
So of course someone would trade (give) his Touch HD for a Tilt2.
Is your sentence wrong? Because if it is then this would seem to be a more plausible question: Would anyone trade his Tilt2 for my Touch HD?
The answer would be hell no. Unless the Tilt2 was heavily used, full of scratches and has hardware/software issues, no one will want to exchange it for a Touch HD.

Well I know only diff is that the Tilt gets Att 3G, the button QWERTY, and doesn't have a 3.5mm.
I really like listening to music and I use my phone as an Mp3 player because I dont want to carry a phone and a Zune.
I want the 3.5mm headset jack and don't mind the lack of a keyboard. I was just wondering If I did get the Tilt2 if It would be crazy to try to trade it for a Touch HD.
Thing is I'd have to get a dataplan to get the Tilt 2 to trade for the HD and then I'd have a touch HD that can't use the dataplan I'd now have.
I already have the Incite which has WinMo 6.5 and a 3.5mm, So I guess I'd still use the dataplan when I have my sim in the Incite.
So The question is do I want to stick with the Incite and it's Wifi
or
Do I get a dataplan and a tilt 2 that I trade for a Touch HD and only use the dataplan when the Sim is in the Incite.
Or I do as above but give the dataplan to my brother's phone and Just have a Incite and a Touch HD both with just Wifi.
Too bad I cant get the HD2... XD Because while it's hard to decide how badly I want the Touch HD over the Incite, the only real difference is that the Touch HD has a bigger screen.
If I had the choice to get the HD2 over the Incite it'd be a no brainer. The HD has the Snapdragon, more RAM, more internal ROM, a bigger screen that is capacitive. I dont even mind it doesn't get at&t 3G.

S2000Peter said:
Well I know only diff is that the Tilt gets Att 3G, the button QWERTY, and doesn't have a 3.5mm.
I'm a huge music person so I really want the 3.5mm headset jack and don't mind the lack of a keyboard. I was just wondering If I did get the Tilt2 if It would be crazy to try to trade it for a Touch HD.
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If you don't flash your phone then you are stuck with a phone with older software. Also, the finger friendly Windows Mobile 6.5.3 is probably not officially supported by HTC on your HTC Touch HD, so you probably will need to flash it on your own.
And trading a Tilt2 for that would be freaking crazy.
I'd like you to know that the HTC Touch Pro2 has the one of the best keyboard around, I mean it's better than any blackberry, better than my Nokia E90, better than any android phone so far, and better than a touch screen keyboard, of course better than Palm, etc!!!!!!!!
If anything, trade it for a Nokia N900. Though, not windows mobile, it's processor is faster than the HTC Touch HD, meaning less likely to have skippy music or delay during music playback. Furtheremore, the N900 speaker is just as good as the N95, and most people who know about phones can verify that the N95 speakers are not only very loud, but very high sound quality, and you get two speakers like on a laptop. And it has a 3.5 mm headphone jack.
The Tilt2 also has tilting screen, so you can watch videos while working on a table, which is kinda geeky but whatever.
Tilt2 also requires a data plan if you get it on ATT. So why would you pay for data plan just to use a phone that doesn't support the data plan. Isn't that stupid? And if you are going to buy a Tilt2 on eBay or something, just buy a Touch HD so you don't go through with the trade.

S2000Peter said:
Too bad I cant get the HD2... XD Because while it's hard to decide how badly I want the Touch HD over the Incite, the only real difference is that the Touch HD has a bigger screen.
If I had the choice to get the HD2 over the Incite it'd be a no brainer. The HD has the Snapdragon, more RAM, more internal ROM, a bigger screen that is capacitive. I dont even mind it doesn't get at&t 3G.
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The HTC Touch HD does not have a snapdragon, has less RAM, and less ROM, and it is resistive.
The HTC Touch HD2 has a snapdragon, more RAM, and more ROM, and it is capacitive.
Thanks for confusing me. Next time, pay attention to the series number, and report the right number, or you will get different answers.
For the Touch HD2 yeah the swap seems plausible, if you do it now, you might get a swap, but I suggest keeping your Tilt2 unopened and 100% brand new. Do not peel any stickers or anything. If you have to get your hands on it use latex gloves, but do not peel the sticker on screen.
Next, you have to swap it with someone with a used HD2 who really abhors his HD2. But soon, the HD2 for T-Mobile will come out, and it will be impossible for you to find someone to swap an HD2 because it has become more valuable for the Americans, and they wouldn't want to swap you. Why? Well because the ones with the European Touch HD2 are going to get the American version for T-Mobile. So right now there will be people more willing to trade it for a brand new Tilt2.
Or, if you are smart, just go month to month with ATT until the T-Mobile HD2 comes out. I heard that month to month on ATT doesn't charge you more, it just means you can cancel anytime or renew a contract for a brand new phone.
But when the T-Mobile HD2 comes out, transfer your phone number to T-Mobile and sign a contract with T-Mobile for an HD2 with a data plan that you actually use.
BTW...I think that swapping it will be very hard, and what you are doing is crazy, and I knew it when you said that you "weren't looking for a trade" you were actually looking for a trade, cause obviously if someone wanted to trade you would trade.

poetryrocksalot said:
If you don't flash your phone then you are stuck with a phone with older software. Also, the finger friendly Windows Mobile 6.5.3 is probably not officially supported by HTC on your HTC Touch HD, so you probably will need to flash it on your own.
And trading a Tilt2 for that would be freaking crazy.
I'd like you to know that the HTC Touch Pro2 has the one of the best keyboard around, I mean it's better than any blackberry, better than my Nokia E90, better than any android phone so far, and better than a touch screen keyboard, of course better than Palm, etc!!!!!!!!
If anything, trade it for a Nokia N900. Though, not windows mobile, it's processor is faster than the HTC Touch HD, meaning less likely to have skippy music or delay during music playback. Furtheremore, the N900 speaker is just as good as the N95, and most people who know about phones can verify that the N95 speakers are not only very loud, but very high sound quality, and you get two speakers like on a laptop. And it has a 3.5 mm headphone jack.
The Tilt2 also has tilting screen, so you can watch videos while working on a table, which is kinda geeky but whatever.
Tilt2 also requires a data plan if you get it on ATT. So why would you pay for data plan just to use a phone that doesn't support the data plan. Isn't that stupid? And if you are going to buy a Tilt2 on eBay or something, just buy a Touch HD so you don't go through with the trade.
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I know about flashing phones, my Incite it running Dark Wolf's newest 6.5 Rom
I like the Tilt 2 also but the 3.5mm is like critical to me.
I dont want to get a phone that isn't Winmo.
poetryrocksalot said:
The HTC Touch HD does not have a snapdragon, has less RAM, and less ROM, and it is resistive.
The HTC Touch HD2 has a snapdragon, more RAM, and more ROM, and it is capacitive.
Thanks for confusing me. Next time, pay attention to the series number, and report the right number, or you will get different answers.
For the Touch HD2 yeah the swap seems plausible, if you do it now, you might get a swap, but I suggest keeping your Tilt2 unopened and 100% brand new. Do not peel any stickers or anything. If you have to get your hands on it use latex gloves, but do not peel the sticker on screen.
Next, you have to swap it with someone with a used HD2 who really abhors his HD2. But soon, the HD2 for T-Mobile will come out, and it will be impossible for you to find someone to swap an HD2 because it has become more valuable for the Americans, and they wouldn't want to swap you. Why? Well because the ones with the European Touch HD2 are going to get the American version for T-Mobile. So right now there will be people more willing to trade it for a brand new Tilt2.
Or, if you are smart, just go month to month with ATT until the T-Mobile HD2 comes out. I heard that month to month on ATT doesn't charge you more, it just means you can cancel anytime or renew a contract for a brand new phone.
But when the T-Mobile HD2 comes out, transfer your phone number to T-Mobile and sign a contract with T-Mobile for an HD2 with a data plan that you actually use.
BTW...I think that swapping it will be very hard, and what you are doing is crazy, and I knew it when you said that you "weren't looking for a trade" you were actually looking for a trade, cause obviously if someone wanted to trade you would trade.
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Sorry about that, it was a typo, the HD you bolded I meant to type HD2.
The point of this thread was just to find out if I got the Tilt 2 if I could trade it for a Touch HD because I really want that 3.5mm. But you're probably right because the Touch HD cant use the dataplan I should probably just keep my Incite, But If I could trade a Tilt 2 for an HD2 then I'd probably get the Tilt 2 and do what I said about just using the dataplan I'd now have on the Incite every once in a while or put it on my brother's phone since I bet he'd like that.

S2000Peter said:
I know about flashing phones, my Incite it running Dark Wolf's newest 6.5 Rom
I like the Tilt 2 also but the 3.5mm is like critical to me.
I dont want to get a phone that isn't Winmo.
Sorry about that, it was a typo, the HD you bolded I meant to type HD2.
The point of this thread was just to find out if I got the Tilt 2 if I could trade it for a Touch HD because I really want that 3.5mm. But you're probably right because the Touch HD cant use the dataplan I should probably just keep my Incite, But If I could trade a Tilt 2 for an HD2 then I'd probably get the Tilt 2 and do what I said about just using the dataplan I'd now have on the Incite every once in a while or put it on my brother's phone since I bet he'd like that.
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Are you considering switching to T-Mobile for the upcoming HD2?

well I'm currently on my dad's family plan so I'm not sure, plus I dont know how much the HD2 will cost even with new contract so I'm not too sure about that.
The problems with getting a contract with T-mobile is that Calls between my family and my best friend and I wouldn't be free. Plus I'd have to get the T-mobile dataplan which I dont really want especially because it's not as good at at&t's

S2000Peter said:
well I'm currently on my dad's family plan so I'm not sure, plus I dont know how much the HD2 will cost even with new contract so I'm not too sure about that.
The problems with getting a contract with T-mobile is that Calls between my family and my best friend and I wouldn't be free. Plus I'd have to get the T-mobile dataplan which I dont really want especially because it's not as good at at&t's
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Well just get the phone and do with the trade. If you can't do it, at least you have the best phone there is on ATT (aside from the iPhone).

I wouldn´t trade my Rhodium for a Blackstone

So people would trade a HD2 (Leo) for the Tilt2 (Rhodium)?

S2000Peter said:
So people would trade a HD2 (Leo) for the Tilt2 (Rhodium)?
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Well the HTC Leo costs 800 dollars.
The ATT Tilt2 costs 500 dollars.
The HTC Blackstone costs 500 dollars and if you are lucky may cost around 300-400 dollars.
Tilt2 trade for Blackstone is a guarantee.
HTC Leo trade for a Tilt2 is almost impossible.

Not me, as hardware keyboard is a must.
Even if Leo has better specs...I prefer Rhodium!

I'd be willing to get and trade a tilt2 for a HD2... question is should I get the Tilt 2 and try?

S2000Peter said:
I'd be willing to get and trade a tilt2 for a HD2... question is should I get the Tilt 2 and try?
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You can try. It's not that I think it's a bad idea what you are doing, but it's that it's really hard. I wouldn't do it because the HD2 is a league higher than the Tilt2, and it's hard to get someone to trade his HD2 for the Tilt2.

to me the HD screen and integrated buttons are much more appealing while the Tilt 2 is really just the next generation of a long line of HTC phones. Now that the HD2 is out, I think the Tilt 2 has lost some luster and this wouldn't be such a one sided trade anymore. I may even consider it, lol.

[Q] Opinions on the Desire

Hey guys, I'm looking forward on moving to a phone with a bigger screen and the Desire (Telus version aka a8182 since the 3G is compatible with the Argentinian band) is the best I can afford ATM.
I would like to know your opinions on the phone and the new SLCD screens that replaced the AMOLED featured on the first series of the Desire. Would you recommend it? Is there any problems I should be aware of- besides the multitouch "bug"?

guido3300 said:
Hey guys, I'm looking forward on moving to a phone with a bigger screen and the Desire (Telus version aka a8182 since the 3G is compatible with the Argentinian band) is the best I can afford ATM.
I would like to know your opinions on the phone and the new SLCD screens that replaced the AMOLED featured on the first series of the Desire. Would you recommend it? Is there any problems I should be aware of- besides the multitouch "bug"?
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You should probably ask this in the desire forum. You'll probably get a lot more answers.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.

guido3300 said:
Hey guys, I'm looking forward on moving to a phone with a bigger screen and the Desire (Telus version aka a8182 since the 3G is compatible with the Argentinian band) is the best I can afford ATM.
I would like to know your opinions on the phone and the new SLCD screens that replaced the AMOLED featured on the first series of the Desire. Would you recommend it? Is there any problems I should be aware of- besides the multitouch "bug"?
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The Desire is a really nice device. My biggest complaint about the Nexus One is that the capacitive keys are not located accurately, and too close to the bottom of the touchscreen. The Desire's hard buttons fix that. It has the same N1 touchscreen bugs, but nothing that I can't live with. It's flash capable, has a decent sized screen, has a trackpad, isn't a clown phone and it's pretty damn responsive on current firmware. All in all, it's hard to find a better device for everyday use. It's last years device, but it was among the best of last year's devices, and is probably the most popular Android smartphone in the world - for very good reason.
If you buy one, you will like it - but don't overpay. You should be able to find a nice used one for $325 - $350ish tops, and if you want to use it on AT&T, make double sure it's the A8182 model.

attn1 said:
The Desire is a really nice device. My biggest complaint about the Nexus One is that the capacitive keys are not located accurately, and too close to the bottom of the touchscreen. The Desire's hard buttons fix that. It has the same N1 touchscreen bugs, but nothing that I can't live with. It's flash capable, has a decent sized screen, has a trackpad, isn't a clown phone and it's pretty damn responsive on current firmware. All in all, it's hard to find a better device for everyday use. It's last years device, but it was among the best of last year's devices, and is probably the most popular Android smartphone in the world - for very good reason.
If you buy one, you will like it - but don't overpay. You should be able to find a nice used one for $325 - $350ish tops, and if you want to use it on AT&T, make double sure it's the A8182 model.
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Thank you for your answer Attn1. I'm looking for the a8182 specifically since I live in Argentina and down here we share the same bands with AT&T. I'm bidding for one on ebay, my top bid is $250 and I'm winning so far for $172 but there are still 20 hours left. Luckily I'll get it for less than $250. I assume that most people that has a a8182 model in the States got it from Telus in Canda. Do you have to pay taxes in the States to import something from Canada?

attn1 said:
It has the same N1 touchscreen bugs, but nothing that I can't live with.
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And just to clarify on this -- the Aria has the same touchscreen "bugs" (limitations really) as the N1 or Desire. So if they weren't an issue with the Aria, it shouldn't be an issue with the Desire.

drumist said:
And just to clarify on this -- the Aria has the same touchscreen "bugs" (limitations really) as the N1 or Desire. So if they weren't an issue with the Aria, it shouldn't be an issue with the Desire.
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Actually, no, I wasn't referring to multi-touch deficiencies. I own all three phones - the Aria touchscreen does not flake out like the N1/Desire touchscreens do. It just just need to sleep the screen and wake it again to correct it on the N1/Desire, and it doesn't happen so frequently that I can deal with it, but it happens a lot more than it does on the Aria.

attn1 said:
Actually, no, I wasn't referring to multi-touch deficiencies. I own all three phones - the Aria touchscreen does not flake out like the N1/Desire touchscreens do. It just just need to sleep the screen and wake it again to correct it on the N1/Desire, and it doesn't happen so frequently that I can deal with it, but it happens a lot more than it does on the Aria.
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Thank you! Unafortunately I didn't win the auction on ebay but I'll keep on searching for a Desire. You like hardware buttons on the Desire over the capacitive ones on the Aria/N1? I'm aware that capacitives are very easy to "press" when you're using the phone and that kinda sucks but they look way better IMO. Not that image matters that much but hardware buttons feels a bit 2 years ago.

guido3300 said:
Thank you! Unafortunately I didn't win the auction on ebay but I'll keep on searching for a Desire. You like hardware buttons on the Desire over the capacitive ones on the Aria/N1? I'm aware that capacitives are very easy to "press" when you're using the phone and that kinda sucks but they look way better IMO. Not that image matters that much but hardware buttons feels a bit 2 years ago.
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Normally I like capacitive key better, but the ones on the N1 absolutely suck.