Windows Live Messenger 2009 MPOP - General Topics

I downloaded the new WLM beta for my PC, mainly because I liked the sound of the MPOP (multiple points of presence) feature, allowing me to sign into my Windows Mobile device at the same time as my PC (i.e. it doesnt sign out of the PC, and i get the messages on both).
This would mean, I could use WLM on the PC, step away with my phone, answer some IMs, and come back to the PC without signing in and out, and losing track of a conversation, as well as my chat logs being complete.
Or so i thought, as signing into my mobile device still signs me out of WLM 2009 on the pc. Apparently both devices need to support MPOP.
According to WLM 2009 support page "If you sign in to a version of Messenger that doesn't support the multiple sign-in feature, you will automatically be signed out from the other devices."
But it also says "For example, if you're already signed in to Messenger on a computer, you can sign in on a mobile device or on another computer without having to sign out on the first computer"
So why do they say mobile device? Where do I get a version for my mobile device that supports this? Is my WLM mobile out of date?
Thanks

It´s the same for me, I don´t know if there is a version for Mobile devices that support this ultiple places
Hope someone can give us a clue

I hope Messenger for WinMo is updates soon to take advantage of this feature

>>"But it also says "For example, if you're already signed in to Messenger on a computer, you can sign in on a mobile device or on another computer without having to sign out on the first computer""
So, it basically says that you don`t have to sign out from computer (if you`re signed in) when you want to signing in from ppc. It doesn`t say anything about MPOP :/ Just that signing in is possible even if you are signed in on another computer when you sign in with ppc. lul, complicated. I hope wlm on winmo gets updated soon.

Yes, Microsoft will be releasing a new WL Messenger for Mobiles in next year... It will happen, just give it time as they need everything else in place first.

Hopefully the new WLM doesn't get treated like the new Pocket Internet Explorer (new WM6.5 ROMs only).

I sign into WLM on my mobile fine now without it signing out on my computer?

According to Paul Thurrott's site about windows:
The native Windows Live Messenger client on Windows Mobile supports the new Multiple Points of Presence (MPOP) functionality that allows you to be signed in to Messenger from multiple PCs, mobile devices, and Web sites.
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Since i don't remember if it's possible to link other sites, just google the statement to find the full article (part 4).
I'm wondering which version he has of WLM... i'm really thinking of sending him a message to ask clarifications.

I have a version of WLM that is newer than the one posted in the big WLM thread on here. And I get signed out of WLM on the PC. I'd love to know what version he has, or why he said that.

The version of Windows Live messenger I am using is 10.6.0034.0800
On my desktop, I use the Windows Live messenger beta (can't tell you the number as I am not at home).
Signing into one does not sign me out of the other....

Joezhang said:
The version of Windows Live messenger I am using is 10.6.0034.0800
On my desktop, I use the Windows Live messenger beta (can't tell you the number as I am not at home).
Signing into one does not sign me out of the other....
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Wow r u kiddin? trying gettin 34.800 somewhere to check it out.
EDIT:
Installed 34.800. No way. Signs me out. Using latest RC on pc.

What I'm reading here is that you guys have logged in to Live on your PC with the new 2009 client and you can STILL log in on your mobiles - is that right? All I'm getting after having logged in once to the new client on my PC is the "problem with the server" message on my phone. I change the account back to an old one that has never logged in to the new PC client and I'm OK.
Is there a workaround or particular version that is working now on the phone?
Thanks

The only version of the desktop Windows Live Messenger that supports MPOP is the version that downloads to the Windows 7 beta. Version 16.something IIRC

dontpannic said:
The only version of the desktop Windows Live Messenger that supports MPOP is the version that downloads to the Windows 7 beta. Version 16.something IIRC
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Not true.. WL Messenger 2009 (version 14.0.x) does support MPOP.
The problems come with WL for Windows Mobile, which seems not to support MPOP Signing at all. It disconnects from everywhere when sign in on the phone.
EDIT: AFAIK there's no 16.x version specific for windows 7.

I have asked to Paul Thurott about WLM for mobile supporting MPOP and he has told me that new mobile phone will get the WLM with MPOP support.. but there will be nothing for old phones. We should find a cab of a version supporting MPOP.
It's the same about WebMessenger... which does not support MPOP .. but the new Windows Live WebMessenger should comes out soon !

i am sure a CAB version will appear shortly after relase. one good thing with so many carriers using winmo is that one is bound to leak it.
they also need to update Xbox NXE to support MPOP too

koala996 said:
We should find a cab of a version supporting MPOP.
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What about WL for mobile from WM6.5?

playerkiller said:
What about WL for mobile from WM6.5?
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still nothing ... even with 10.7 version of WL ... umbelievable ! I don't know what Microsoft is doing about MPOP support for WLM !

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Free Voice Instant Messenger Program

Currently this program is in beta but its woth a shot if you are wanting a replacement for your current IM program.. Versions for Windows Mobile 03/05/06, Smartphone, and Nokia platforms.
http://www.palringo.com/
EclipsedMotions said:
Currently this program is in beta but its woth a shot if you are wanting a replacement for your current IM program.. Versions for Windows Mobile 03/05/06, Smartphone, and Nokia platforms.
http://www.palringo.com/
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This thing is pretty impressive....it also does aim, google chat, msn, icq, yahoo and several others...had the voice chat going in the "modaco" group and the whole time I'm downloading a file to the phone at 20k per sec...worked flawlessly...oh..it also has a version for the windows desktop (xp, vista, 2000 etc)
I'm really liking this messenger service, only kind of problem i have with it is I can't keep chat windows open as a session or window. unless i'm missing something

Messenger with support for multiple logins

What I really like about the new Live Messenger is that it supports multiple logins. I can stay connected at home and at work at the same time, and the conversations are syncronized bethween all my computers.
However, the Messenger client on my Touch Pro does not support this. When I connect using Touch Pro, all my other clients are disconnected.
Is there Messenger client out there that supports multiple logins?
Moskus said:
What I really like about the new Live Messenger is that it supports multiple logins. I can stay connected at home and at work at the same time, and the conversations are syncronized bethween all my computers.
However, the Messenger client on my Touch Pro does not support this. When I connect using Touch Pro, all my other clients are disconnected.
Is there Messenger client out there that supports multiple logins?
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There are quite a few of them. Read my Messaging bible in the Wiki.
When I say "multiple logins" I don't mean "logins to different networks". In short I want to avoid this message when I sign in to my MSN-account on the Pocket PC:
"You were signed out from here because you signed in to a version of Messenger that doesn't let you sign in to more than one place".
Thanks!
Moskus said:
When I say "multiple logins" I don't mean "logins to different networks". In short I want to avoid this message when I sign in to my MSN-account on the Pocket PC:
"You were signed out from here because you signed in to a version of Messenger that doesn't let you sign in to more than one place".
Thanks!
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OIC. I don't know of any of them. I'll check the latest version of Agile, IM+, Fring etc. to see whether some of them already supports this (long-needed) functionality. I'll keep you posted.
(Sorry for the delay!)
Great! Hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to implement.
*bump*
Any new messenger clients support multiple logins?
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There are quite a few of them. Read my Messaging bible in the Wiki.
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Link?
How about a good multi-login (different protocols) client?
not possible with MSN as far as i know. the service does not allow it.
Aim allows you to be logged in at multiple locations however.
not possible with MSN as far as i know. the service does not allow it.
Aim allows you to be logged in at multiple locations however.
With the old MSN Messenger it was not possible.
But it is possible using Microsoft Live Messenger.
However; is it possible on Windows Mobile?

Lotus based email servers

i have checked in all opereating systems of windows CE in almost all devices
but there is no support for lotus based emails servers wheather i am contecting via gprs or wi fi
the email box opens perfectly but the buttons of forward reply bcc cc are not visible,
i have done jave aplets and this and that but the problem is still there
now thinking to switch on blackberry for the push email facility
or anyone can tell me that any application can help me
now a days um using treo 750v with wm 6
we have it at work, i'll see if I can find the details for you. Notes/Domino are the biggest pieces of **** i've used in my life (that and the several thousand lotus notes "applications" we have)
cud'nt get u
what application i need for this problem?????
would your goodself be that much kind to tell me in brief?????
Ignoring the anti-Domino stance of the first respondent i would suggest you investigate CommonTime. They do a server side push email system designed for WM devices as well as Symbian.
If what you are looking for is a mobile version of DWA then i think you are going to have to wait until your Domino servers are upgraded to version 8.
oh my God
i cant bel that i gonna have solve my problem of email
that was a kind info thx
let me try that soft first
You may also want to try out Seven Beta, they also do a push email soultion for Domino/Exchange and all manner of third party POP/SMTP servers.
Forgot to add this is also a FREE option.
Awais said:
i have checked in all opereating systems of windows CE in almost all devices
but there is no support for lotus based emails servers wheather i am contecting via gprs or wi fi
the email box opens perfectly but the buttons of forward reply bcc cc are not visible,
i have done jave aplets and this and that but the problem is still there
now thinking to switch on blackberry for the push email facility
or anyone can tell me that any application can help me
now a days um using treo 750v with wm 6
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If your domino server is on version 8 or above you can use IBM Notes Traveler http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/notes/traveler.html
it's far better than MSFT solution because it allows you to replicate signed and encrypted email. that's only my opinion
nunomax said:
If your domino server is on version 8 or above you can use IBM Notes Traveler http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/notes/traveler.html
it's far better than MSFT solution because it allows you to replicate signed and encrypted email. that's only my opinion
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no, that server is version 7

[Q]Lumia 820 Exchange Problem [solved]

Hey guys,
i am new here, but i've been watching this forum a long time for now on.
At this moment I have a problem with setting up an Exchange for my mail acc (university).
Setup going fine and it can be completed, but after some time (30-40min), windows asked me for password because of my
password that i typed in is wrong.
The curious things are, I can read my mails after retyping the password or when I hit the return key.
Does anyone have the same problem?
Thanks in advance
For me there is no problem, I setup my private Exchange (2010) Account and everything work well.
On WP8 with my Lumia 820, I received only a warning regarding the certificate like on other OS's and that was it.
Oh really?
I have installed the certificate from my university but i didnt change anything .
Is there a option that an administrator should do to allow WP8?
I tried to search on my Exchange (2010) for an option for WP8, but cant find one.
Microsoft said that WP8 will be supported by every Exchange Server, I found this by Google.
Which Version of Exchange Server do you have on your University?
We have Exchange 2003.
Okay, I tried Google and found that it must work.
From Windows Phone 8 Security Overview:
Windows Phone 8 is compatible with version 14.1 of the Exchange ActiveSync protocol and supports synchronizing email, calendar, task, and contact information with Exchange Server 2003 SP2 and subsequent releases or with Microsoft Office 365.
One post on XDA, but another problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912071
The only thing maybe, if you have self signed certificates at your university, you have also to install the Root-CA certificate!
And maybe is the Exchange 2003 not up to date, SP2 installed?
Thanks for your help and replies.
I don't know which SP is installed :-/
I checked the homepage of my university and i found a root CA, that i've installed on my phone.
At the Homepage I also found that Windows Phone is supported.
After round about 40min, the ask for retyping the password appears .
It's really strange.
EDIT:
I found this page: http:**social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/Forefrontedgegeneral/thread/6999b88e-ada4-45c5-ad33-55905db0f0df/#a1bacca1-40ac-4e09-af79-1178fad860b5
And finally i wrote an email to our support with this link.
EDIT 2:
I've got an email from our support, they have changed the settings (settings can be found in that link above).
Until yet it worked perfect.
Thanks for Help!
el-bart said:
EDIT 2:
I've got an email from our support, they have changed the settings (settings can be found in that link above).
Until yet it worked perfect.
Thanks for Help!
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Glad to hear you solved it!!

Cannot sign in to WIndows Live account

After resetting my Samsung i917, it will not sign into my windows live, preventing me from setting up mail, calendar, zune, basically anything associated with Microsoft! As far as I was aware, it was connected before resetting, but it was not used on a daily basis so cannot be 100% sure it was still syncing. I just want to use it as a wireless music hub in the house with Zune, but need to sign in - anybody else had this issue?
The only 'fix' I found was related to windows 8, and involved disabling automatically updating date/time, but this did not help. Would be a shame to have to throw it in the bin just because Microsoft wont let me sign in - surely people are still allowed to use these Windows 7.5 phones?
Thanks in advance!
Windows Live ID does not work for WP 7.5-7.8 and for Zune transport on PC for a long time already. If you want to sync your contacts, mail, calendar - set up hotmail or outlook mail as "add an account" in "settings/email+accounts" of your phone. Thus you will get your contacts back and will continue using your phone. But you should forget about Zune, Marketplace and Windows Live ID. Thanks Microsoft for this awesome attitude to the customers.
P.S. And for sure you can sync your Zune PC client with your phone via usb cable (but not via Windows Live ID)
AndrewSh said:
Windows Live ID does not work for WP 7.5-7.8 and for Zune transport on PC for a long time already. If you want to sync your contacts, mail, calendar - set up hotmail or outlook mail as "add an account" in "settings/email+accounts" of your phone. Thus you will get your contacts back and will continue using your phone. But you should forget about Zune, Marketplace and Windows Live ID. Thanks Microsoft for this awesome attitude to the customers.
P.S. And for sure you can sync your Zune PC client with your phone via usb cable (but not via Windows Live ID)
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Thanks for confirming what I feared... regarding your P.S - does this make it impossible to wireless sync Zune music content over home WiFi when the phone is on charge like I used to?
Normally this should work. Here is how-to I did not check it because I don't use my WP7.8 HTC Titan for a long time - just switch it on and off from time to time to be sure that I am still able to cook a rom for it Also I have Zune and WMDC installed only on my old laptop (which is also used just to have fun with WEH 6.5.3 and WP7 devices). So you may try it...
Note:
Since November 15, 2015, the Zune service has been discontinued. This may cause errors when attempting to stream or download content or update the service.
I have few nokia lumia win phone 7 prototype, i confirmed server stopped win phone 7

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