To anyone who uses our brilliant software... I was, this morning, informed that we're starting development soon on a *fully functional* SameTime client which uses mNotes as its conduit to the SameTime server. I'm given to understand that this will come as part of the mNotes package at no extra cost
I will undoubtedly be testing it, both through ActiveSync on Lan/Internet and GPRS, so if anyone wants to know anything about it or suggest stuff.. give me a shout! (or just reply here)
Thanks MadKat.
I for sure wanna know more about it as my organization uses lotusnotes an sametime as IM.
It sounds like you know more about this product. I am looking for a solution hope you can guide me. I am looking for a way by which I can have a copy of my emails from the notes clienton the desktop sent to my mobile device with GPRS.
Cingular/AT&T have something like that it lets you do it for notes for sure and outlook I think.
My boss phoned up asking for some advice. He was thinking of buying a Blackberry.
He said the main feature he liked was the ability to remotely sync with outlook. I have never really looked into it, but can this be done with easily with a WM5 device?
Trying to be as unbiased as posible, what do people think are the main benifits of a Blackberry over WM5 devices, and visa versa?
Thanks, i could score some serious points here
What I know is: THe wired sync for Windows Mobile is unsurpassed by Blackberries. I believe you can sync with bluetooth and/or IR and/or GPRS for WM5, but I'm not sure on this. However, e-mailing is still superb in Blackberries, unsurpassed by anything just of yet. Hope this helped. (Could I have a 20% comission on your bonus? )
I have seen many messages go by discussing what is the best software for instant messaging. Up until recently, I had been using Agile Messenger. It was quite unstable when I first started using it a couple of years ago, but it is much better now. There is a cost now, which I think is high, but I would be willing to pay. Before buying into Agile though, I felt I should review my other options, and I have run into problems with each. Can anyone either help me get past these problems, or perhaps suggest another solution? Here are the programs I have tried and the problems I have experienced.
Agile Messenger - I have become very happy with the software, but I am not fond of subscriptions. I would much prefer to be able to buy the software outright. I may be able to get over that, but I discovered something else. I like to try the different ROM's that show up on this board and I have noticed that my customer ID in Agile changes with the different ROM's. Does this mean I need to buy a new license each time I change my ROM? I have written email to Agile about this and a couple of other questions and I have never heard back. I am concerned about the lack of support. There are also security questions that have been presented elsewhere on this board about having a middleman handle your connection to the various chat services since the middleman needs to know the username and password to connect.
IM+ - I tried this program, and I like the fact that I can purchase it and be done. I also like that it seems to connect directly to the chat services, thus getting rid of the middleman problem mentioned above. I have been experiencing a problem though where I appear to be online, both from my side, and from the side of my buddies, but messages do not go through. I have also experienced situations where I have successfully sent messages to friends, they replied, but I did not receive the replies. I find this type of unreliability to be intolerable, especially since you can not tell if it is happening. As far as you know, you are sending messages but your friends are not responding when they very well might be. I have tried reinstalling after a hard reset with the same problem.
IMOV - From what I can tell, this is just a XMPP (Jabber, Google..) client. It relies on relays on the Internet to access any other chat system such as AOL, or Yahoo. This introduces the problem with the middleman above, but further, these relays are practically anonymous. At least with Agile, I have some idea (though not a perfect one) who I am entrusting my credentials to. I do not have that with the relays used by XMPP. I guess I could research the available relays and find one I trust, but I am not looking to do that right now.
Verichat - I have not tried this in a while. It is another subscription based system and is a middleman. I guess my thought is that if I am going to pay an ongoing fee AND have a middleman, I would rather have Agile.
Okay, this has gotten to be a long post, but I think it presents my current position. I communicate with users of AOL, Yahoo, Google, and MSN. I can not get all of them to see reason and just all change to IRC or XMPP :-D
I am running this on a Universal (i-Mate Jasjar) with Windows Mobile 5. I am posting in general because I am sure this is a topic that affects many of the XDA phones.
Thanks for any input you can provide.
As far as IRC is concerned, don't forget to check out my IRC-related roundups - I've cross-posted some of the latest ones here in the General forum too.
I have just discovered those. I have given thought to using IRC, but I do not know if I need yet another transport to become dependant on. If I had it all to do over again, I would select IRC and / or XMPP for how open they are and ignore anyone who refused to do the same. (In a perfect world.. )
Octro: Gtalk
There is also Octro which is a Google Chat program that can do chat and VOIP even over a 1x connection (uses the jabber connection).
http://www.octro.com/
It's only for Google right now but the developers have noted that they will add AIM, Y!, MSN, etc later on (it's still in beta).
The VOIP part is really neat. It's not perfect but it is much less resource intensive than Skype and feels more "phone like" when you get an incoming call.
We have an ongoing thread where here at ppcgeeks.com where the developer pops in (they're very good at fixing bugs, adding features, etc.)
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/octro-new-im-client-w-voip-support-1-05-on-1-3-07-t1459.html#12485
The software is free right now but there will be a cost later. For me, this software has the most potential out of all the other programs if only b/c it's being developed now and you the user can help make it better...
Octro looks good..
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
Octro adds AIM, ICQ and MSN
mrdata1701b said:
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
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Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
yea im also looking into some other options since i upgraded my rom. they discontinued verichat so unless you have your old license (if you bought it) its not going to work. im using octro now and it seems to be working fine. i tried installing agile but theyre files are all messed up. any more suggestions?
Not Quite sure how aim is incorporated.
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
thedubya914 said:
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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Menu/Option/Accounts/Legacy Accounts
GoogleTalk must be online
or RTFM
Welcome to this forum
There is a new one that does them all (AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, ICQ, and Jabber) that is currently free and Java based. I quit using IM+ (which I paid for) and am using it exclusively. Currently the beta testing is closed while I think they upgrade their servers, but should open up again shortly I think).
It is supposed to be for the crackberries, but works great on my Dash and K-Jam:
http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/25/jivetalk-im-beta-available-to-try/
http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/17577-jivetalk_beta_multi_client_im_application.html
-Mc
malatesta said:
Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
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Thanks for this. Haven't heard of them yet. Ima give it a try now. If it's works great and isn't subsciption based like Agile, I'm down...
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
alfredtv said:
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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You mean Octro? It's working great under WM6 - have been testing it.
I'll publish a big roundup of all these apps in the next 1-2 days - stay tuned
hey anyone know of one that will use http proxy?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=294938 for a preview of the article (sorry, it has a typo: Ocrp vs Octro. I'll fix this in the final version.)
I've been using Octro 1.09 on my 8525 on t-mobile. I prefer it to Agile. The voice function works but not very well. Excessive delay and feedback requires use of a headset. I can tether to my laptop and use GTalk and the voice is flawless. I'm hoping they work on the voice feature more. Other than issues with voice Octro is excellent.
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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
cyberstraz said:
RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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Then, surely a new version comes really soon.
so nothing that works via http (8080) proxy?
does anyone know a way i could either directly on the phone or tethered through the computer send pdf as a fax through the cell network
thanks
i would be interested in this also
I have not seen any option on my standard roms or the custom built ROMs here..
Maybe we will have to wait ....
in my time here I've come across apps which did it but forum search is no good with 3 letter words
but wait is not likely to be the correct approach as these programs been here since wm2002
and fax being an old moldy tech fewer and fewer people want to get near would likely result in a smaller and smaller demand and supply and demand well you know
In WM 2003 fax programs did work.
But since the introduction of WM5 it never worked again..
Why that is, I never fully understood, I personally think that it would still be possible to send a fax signal through instead of voice, but my simplification is probably erroneous otherwise there would have been fax-software for the newer generations WinMo.
(I WOULD welcome a fax program, because that would make some of my work a lot easier).
Regards,
EquinoXe
This belongs in the Q&A section
thank you
so.. i've mailed HTC about the exchange client not syncing if the exchange server requires a pin code...
ME:
hi, i have a htc magic and im really happy with it. the only thing i cant get to work is the activesync client. which, from what i can read from the net doesnt support exchange servers that requires pin. ive tried to download dataviz roadsync which can handle the exchange sync with no problem, but roadsync cant sync calendars. and i want to be able to use the built in activesync client.. so my questions is: when will you upgrade the activesync client to support the pin (enterprise security?) function??? this is a vital part of my everyday work
HTC:
Dear Fredrik, Thank you for contacting HTC Europe, and thank you for your feedback. As you state in your email the Exchange Server application does not at this moment support pin security. We don't have the information if and when that will be available. I would advice you to state your question to the Android Developer team at developer.android.com to see if they could supply you with more information. (We at HTC are only involved in software development that seams our specific phones to suit the Android OS). If you have any further questions or queries, feel free to get back to us at any time. Kind Regards Dave Montanya HTC Europe
seems to me that they're saying, "we didnt develope the 'activesync' client, go ask google".. but how come this software is only on the htc branded phones? so i replied with:
ME:
hi again, thanks for your answer, but from what i can understand, from what i've read online, the software for syncing with exchange in my HTC branded Magic is developed by you guys at HTC, because you cant find this software on the regular google branded htc Magic phones. best regards fredrik
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HTC:
Thank you for your quick reply. I apologize for my earlier reply, you are indeed correct that HTC develops the inbuilt Exchange Server application (I had to double check this). Unfortunately as for now I can neither confirm or deny whether pin security or certificate support will be supported by a future upgrade or not. The Android OS is a very new OS and I personally believe that the support for the above functionality will be included by future updates (this is my personal opinion and not that of HTC Europe). Kind Regards Dave Montanya HTC Europe
ME:
thanks for the fast response! i hope that it will be implented very soon as stated in my first mail, this is a vital part of my daily work and i dont want to go back to using my old phone can you let me know when you hear anything about the pin security function? Because this is a big issue, practically all the big companys that uses exchange has pin security activated. So im far from alone with this problem thanks again, Fredrik
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HTC:
Thank you for your quick reply, I do understand the importance for you using this. In the meantime, feel free to look for alternative applications such as Roadsync or the other available Exchange Server applications on the market.
If I get any more information within a reasonable time, I will let you know by email.
Kind Regards
Dave Montanya
HTC Europe
i guess thats the end of it
ill uppdate if i ever get that mail from Dave.
Interesting matter! I'm not too interested in exchange support because I use gmail I hope you can tear out some more info
I would rather that they didn't implement any MS-crap as it only serves to propagate the repression. Force people to upgrade to something that isn't proprietary instead.
lbcoder said:
I would rather that they didn't implement any MS-crap as it only serves to propagate the repression. Force people to upgrade to something that isn't proprietary instead.
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So you don't want me using the phone then?
My company uses Exchange, so I need that integration...
You think companies will stop using exchange cause people like android?