I have an ATT Fuze and would like to install a thinner ROM for better performance..
I'm not really digging the the TouchFlo3D interface.. Is is flashy, but not useful (and a bit sluggish)..
I see Manilla2D w/ nice themes everywhere.. Is Manilla2D the same as TouchFlo3D I have on my Fuze now? Or is there a Manilla3D?
Before upgrading to the Fuze, I used SPB Mobile Shell on my 8525 and really liked it. Now I see there are tons of themes for it. Can I have multiple mobile shell themes on my phone at the same time and switch between them?
I'd like a launcher that I can easily modify (add extra program tabs, etc) and have multiple themes for.. Is that Manilla or MobleShell?
Thanks
-Matthew
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Hey @ Devs...
I was wondering if there is any similar apps as the Pocket PC Mobile Shell which basically re-skins the ugly WM standard skin with a much nicer one?....i think the WM shell could easily be improved with new icons and menus.....
if you look at any other type of phone such as a Sony Ericsson or a Nokia or the Iphone for that matter...they all have nice menus and icons and animations etc...
Ive just ugraded my Tornado to WM6 and yes its better...but not could be ALOT better....
i think Homescreens arent enough...we should really work on making the Shell / OS LOOK nicer...
Any ideas or links or anything please post!
I don't think that there is any app that can sking WM Smartphone.
The only UI related app I know on sp is Smart Toolkit, but it is very different from SPB shell.
I haven't found any threads directly comparing the two... I'm tired of the boring today screen and even HTC Home. Which is better on the Wizard Manilla 2D or SPB Shell 2.1? I've tried Manilla and I really like it but it takes up a lot of resources and disables some apps I've come to rely on. (Battery Status, and Smartskey) I wanted to get some opinions before shelling (he he) out the greenbacks for SPB Shell.
What a stupid question!!!
Well don't I feel like an ass... Here you guys just got Manilla working on the Wizard and I'm asking which is better. I've seen threads for Manilla for a while now and never read any of them. I wasn't really interested in Manilla until I was browsing around and saw some of the skins. I thought I'd give it a try. Since I just went in last night and downloaded it and installed it with no problem, I assumed it has been working on Wizard for a while. In my defence I did search for a comparison but found none.
i vote foe manila
Iv tryed both and Manila is wey cooler and in new to wizard, bur SPB Shell its much much usfull so its your choice
i was a big spb mobile shell user when it 2+ first hit......I must admit...I now use Noonski's rom and I enjoy the device much much more...it's somehow made for our device where as mobile shell is universal plus with all the skins and clocks being rapidly designed and made available you can have whatever flavor you like....as with mobile shell....seems lately the designs are all just versions of the same concept...where m2d is fresh and to me faster as it is cooked into the rom...I had about 43 megs left on mine after flashing and right now I'm just trying to streamline and keep about half that while piling on the goodies I usually enjoy in my phone...using a 2g sd card I'm able to run much from there....unless mobile shell upgrades to 3 I'm going to say m2d wins
wyzepro said:
i was a big spb mobile shell user when it 2+ first hit......I must admit...I now use Noonski's rom and I enjoy the device much much more...it's somehow made for our device where as mobile shell is universal plus with all the skins and clocks being rapidly designed and made available you can have whatever flavor you like....as with mobile shell....seems lately the designs are all just versions of the same concept...where m2d is fresh and to me faster as it is cooked into the rom...I had about 43 megs left on mine after flashing and right now I'm just trying to streamline and keep about half that while piling on the goodies I usually enjoy in my phone...using a 2g sd card I'm able to run much from there....unless mobile shell upgrades to 3 I'm going to say m2d wins
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I had forgotten all about this question. Thanks for the answers. I'm back on the kick again and I was wondering if you still feel the same? I have tried M2D as a add on and cooked directly into the ROM. I have still yet to try SPB Mobile Shell. I may just get off the fence and do it. Worse thing could happen is I have to flash back to my HTC Home.
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I haven't found any threads directly comparing the two... I'm tired of the boring today screen and even HTC Home. Which is better on the Wizard Manilla 2D or SPB Shell 2.1? I've tried Manilla and I really like it but it takes up a lot of resources and disables some apps I've come to rely on. (Battery Status, and Smartskey) I wanted to get some opinions before shelling (he he) out the greenbacks for SPB Shell.
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I tested twice solutions, it's my opinion:
M2D:
Positive
- Very excellent look
- Very fast, reponsive
- Switch window animated
- Several weather cities
- Most smart panel
Negative
- Memory leak
- Not stable (plugin reboots unexpectly)
- Memory used (+15Mb storage and +8Mb ram) with all apps needed
- Seems doen't work with S2U2
- Get pad action when using other programs
- Task switch to front automaticaly
- Landscape problems
- cannot show multiple calendar events
- poor weather city
- Must install all HTC programs (music player, pictures, ...)
SPB shell 2.1
Positive
- Less storage and ram memory (- 5Mb ram)
- Compatible S2U2
- Skinable (look of M2D, Xperia X1, WM7)
- Stable
- Cities for weather (Valenciennes is in the list)
Negative
- Less responsive
- M2D skin very slow
- Only one city for the weather
- S2U2 weather does not work
- Cannot have the standard windows taskbar and softkeys
- Today SPB plugin different with M2D today skin window.
- Strange organization of functions...
In conclusion, there is no perfect version, I reloaded Clean Rom and re-used standard WM today screen (battery status, calendar, time, messaging...)
ed_bracam said:
Negative
- Memory leak
- Not stable (plugin reboots unexpectly)
- Memory used (+15Mb storage and +8Mb ram) with all apps needed
- Must install all HTC programs (music player, pictures, ...)
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1) Yes there is a bit of a memory leak but with tools like QuickMenu and Oxios Hibernate you can reclaim this
2) The issues with this plugin being unstable can be overlooked by the price tag
3) What taskmanager are you using ? M2D Built into wizflo weighs in at 5mb storage and 3.5 mb ram.
4) You dont need all the HTC Programs, use M2DC to disable the tabs you dont use
Great info guys. That is the kind of input I've been looking for. Thanks.
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Great info guys. That is the kind of input I've been looking for. Thanks.
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I have tried SPB Mobile Shell many times i made my custom made configuration and i think it works great, i have never had problems with it. I was wondering that it worked fast enough on HTC Wizard. No problems with cities in weather. It consumes a bit more of RAM and storage and it is necessary to install it in the device memory. Another bad thing about SPB mobile shell is that after installing it on the Wizard it booted very slowly after soft reset it took about 2 minutes until the device boot up. But anyway all these apps M2D, SPB Mobile Shell, TouchFLO etc are looking great but i do not like em. I like standard WM today screen with battery status, messages, today agenda, it is the only way to see all the necessary things on the today screen!
BEtter?
M2D is free..
spb yooou have to buy....
I am a believer of the bet things in life are free...
For the last few years I was running winmo5 with SPB Mobile Shell and Pocket Plus running. Now with my new phone I have winmo6.1 and Touchflo3d.
Touchflo is very nice but some of the features of SPB I miss.
I see people using WkTask to replace some of the features missing out of touchflo that SPB had but WkTask seems to mess up my title bar and make navigating harder.
I also see people running wisbar, what would that replace from the above mentioned software?
Do any of you out there have experience with all three and perhaps some enlightenment for this not so newb to winmo but winmo6.1 fuze newb?
I totally love touch flo but I am not sold that it is anything but eye candy and that other software overlays for WM6.1 might be better.
I was curious if there are people out there who have jettisoned touchflo in favor of something else, and what is that else?
Thanks for your opinions, input and software suggestions.
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
I googled WAD and was soured by what Google thinks I was referencing. )
What are you referencing? Manilla is TouchFlo right, but where does hte manilla come from? What is WAD?
WAD is Wisbar Advance Desktop, here you go:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
There are a lot of nice skins for WAD.
ufufu got it for you
yes manilla is "touch flo"
manilla comes from htc but has been reverse engineered by some developers on xda.
joel2009 said:
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
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i added wad to pda V10 and cant get it to work.. i disabled tf in today but wad still wont display weather etc..
its just a black screen
i really like the look of what wad is supposed to be..
any help is greatly appreciated
thanx
i see it the same way.. Manila2D/TF3D is good only for having your PDA look cool. it's not as useful as a PDA could get.
I set my UltimateLaunch to be as useful as i could using FEWidgets/Makecall (for speed dialing)/Rumball's weather/some internet icons and a networking plugin... and so forth.
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How do you feel wisbar advanced desktop comapres to SPB pocket plus, do you have any experience?
Glad to hear I am not alone with tf3d not being the ultimate in work horses, I will look into ultimate launch.
by blank screen does it actually look like a blank screen, or does it look like there is nothing on your today screen. wisbar has to be completely designed by hand, or you have to download a theme file.
go here for a theme and tutorial i have put together.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442813
I have the same question and thoughts - perhaps WAD or SPB mobile shell would be a better fit b/c of the greater potential for customization. Can anyone comment on the memory usage / responsiveness between tf2d and WAD or tf2d and SPB mobile shell?
the opposite here. i used to have ultimateLaunch, but when Manila (TF3D) was born, ditched UL and now I am a happy manila user... love the changing themes every now and then, and everything else that comes with it, e.g. great graphics (rain animation is nice) and the close to no maintenance. manila is a little less flexibile the UL, but, pros overcome cons, for me at least.
Titanium today is very cool, but is there another transparent today screen for wm6.5 apart from Manila 2d?
Thanks
Dunno what else you could mean by transparent but there is also Pointui spb mobile and wisbar. They are not so easy to work with. Spb mobile I think, is the easiest and Pointui can be very attractive.
accessing said:
Dunno what else you could mean by transparent but there is also Pointui spb mobile and wisbar. They are not so easy to work with. Spb mobile I think, is the easiest and Pointui can be very attractive.
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A 1 + for pointui
Throttlelauncher is a good option, you can configure it at your own taste using themes (even Iphone, Android, TF3D, BB, GSmart imitations or some themes specially made by a person or for a person with some useful and nice aspects) or taking some of the themes and making your own one. You can add widgets, flash, and WM-Today plugins into the panels of ThrottleLauncher.
You can do a search here in xda-dev's or go to www.throttlelauncher.com
* NOTE * I experienced some problems running TL if my device is low of memory *BUT* I continue using and recommending it (and trying to put it into my cooked ROMs) - I run it with Kaiser and with Herald both WM6.5.1 now.
He means transparent toolbars
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He means transparent toolbars
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Yes, some of the TL themes do have transparent toolbars depending of the PNG's that the theme uses. As they are capable to disable the toolbars of WM you can use full screen themes with their own (or without any) toolbars - where they can be configured as the theme developer, or the user, like to.
Moved this thread outside of Dev and Hacking where it did not belong.
transparancy is possible in wm6.5, means what you want is practically can be done.
Thnx a lot for your replies friends.
In fact i was looking for new today screen with transparent taskbar.
Throttlelauncher can be very good. Will give this a try.