I know i've seen a thread or two asking for this somewhere - Did anyone find it?
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200
bengalih said:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200
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Nah that link doesnt work.
It provides a link, but you eventually end up with a page containing this message:
"Out of an abundance of caution, due to the December 31st, 2007 injunction ordered against certain Qualcomm products, Qualcomm has temporarily removed certain web content until it can be reviewed and modified if necessary to ensure compliance with the injunction. It may be several more days or weeks before these pages are accessible again. Thank you for your patience."
I was hoping someone downloaded it before it was taken off their website and will upload a backup of it somewhere.....
i think this is the one you're looking for.
regards,
twisted
twisted said:
i think this is the one you're looking for.
regards,
twisted
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Nope - Thats just some marketing material on the processor. The datasheet will be a few hundred pages at least (if not a few thousand) listing all the intricate details of the chip and how to actually use them.
Looking back over the cdmatech.com/umtschips.com sites, that is now down, through web.archive.com at the last point it was up back in 07:
Download Library
http://web.archive.org/web/20070630214048rn_1/cdmatech.com/download_library/
MSM7200 Chipset
http://web.archive.org/web/20060615182655/cdmatech.com/products/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp
I dont see the actual datasheet we are after although all the other marketing stuff and chip diagrams are still there for dl...
The MSM 7200 datasheet has never been publicly available, the best you can do is look at the android MSM kernel and work it out from that. (though that is MSM7200A and some things are different, mainly the vic and usb).
The datasheet *WAS* available, but Qualcomm took it down after their legal woes with Broadcomm. Unfortunately, nobody saved the PDFs for the 7500 and other data sheets found on the Kaiser wiki.
The good news is, someone did save the PDF for the 7200 data sheet and it has been updated on the wiki. Go there for a working link.
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The datasheet *WAS* available, but Qualcomm took it down after their legal woes with Broadcomm. Unfortunately, nobody saved the PDFs for the 7500 and other data sheets found on the Kaiser wiki.
The good news is, someone did save the PDF for the 7200 data sheet and it has been updated on the wiki. Go there for a working link.
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Am I blind? I dont see it?
andret said:
Am I blind? I dont see it?
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Apparently, I haven't read this post until now The datasheet on the wiki is just marketing material. Not the 100+ page PDF you're looking for. Sorry, keep searching!
_Alex_ said:
Apparently, I haven't read this post until now The datasheet on the wiki is just marketing material. Not the 100+ page PDF you're looking for. Sorry, keep searching!
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No problem I just wish I could get hold of it somewhere... i'm curious to look at the registers for overclocking and then also on how to wrap the standard gdi driver to use the integrated graphics of the processor..... i'm putting also trying to source more info on the official wm6.1 rom that's comming from htc - the local guys here say there's one comming but they dont know precisely when it will be available.
Datasheet
Not sure if this is the datasheet but will post maybe its it.
Link
http://www.ent.eetchina.com/PDF/2007FEB/DTCOL_2007FEB15_AVDE_RFR_AN_01.pdf
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Not sure if this is the datasheet but will post maybe its it.
Link
http://www.ent.eetchina.com/PDF/2007FEB/DTCOL_2007FEB15_AVDE_RFR_AN_01.pdf
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It has aleady been established that the datasheet should be more than 4 pages, probably more like hundreds of pages. This looks like some kind of marketing document with chip specs and a diagram.
I'm wondering how some of those peoples who try to build a graphics driver for the Polaris can do that without any hardware reference? Why has no one access to such papers?
And what is it with the android kernel dzo mentioned? Where can I
get such a development enviroment to test my Polaris with Android?
Jinzuu said:
I'm wondering how some of those peoples who try to build a graphics driver for the Polaris can do that without any hardware reference? Why has no one access to such papers?
And what is it with the android kernel dzo mentioned? Where can I
get such a development enviroment to test my Polaris with Android?
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It would not be possible to develop graphics drivers without the technical datasheet.
The Android kernel is being developed by Google and they certainly would have the datasheet for the processor.
Whether or not they are developing the kernel with hardware graphics accelleration in consideration I am not sure - It would be marginally possible to eventually disassemble such a kernel to determine how the graphics hardware is addressed, but that would be a vast and intricate task with many many hours of work without any guarantee of success.
I dont think you'll find anyone willing to look at gdi development without the actual technical datasheet.
Is this zip file the 7200 datasheet? I've tried to unzip it but get an error. Any help you could give would be appreciated.
Would it be possible to find the data sheet for atleast the graphics on AMD's site, the chip from what I understand was made by ATI before AMD bought them out and sold the mobile graphics section of ATI to Qualcomm. So, they "may" still at least have that data sheet available. Well if anyone actually knows which Imageon it is anyway.
What you are looking for is actually a reference manual, or programmers manual (or better yet both), for the msm7200 and not it's data sheet, which in most cases is actually the marketing "blabla" (that varies between companies though).
Unfortunately quallcomm took over broadcom's buissness strategy and gives the documents only to those that have paid for them in terms of licencse's and hardware
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There are proper reference manuals on the internet, though I have to point out that this information appears to be regarded by Qualcomm as proprietary.
As of the date of posting this material is still available, however:-
Google for
80-VA736-2-MSM7200-SoftwareInterface.pdf
and
80-VE263-25-MSM7200A-BasebandTopics.pdf
and take the ftp link which should come up early in the search results.
These appear to provide a full reference; the first is 910 pages and the second is 79 pages. They include very detailed register and pinout information.
Please note that I did not personally place this information on the net and reiterate that it is clearly marked confidential and proprietary. However it is clearly extremely useful for any open source development.
I keep seeing commenters on Engadget talking about how Android 2.3 and earlier version (not sure about honeycomb) do not implement dual-core technology at all. So in the short-term these dual-core phones that everyone has are put to waste.
Is this true? I may have recalled some of the facts wrong, but please tell me the reality about dual-core on Android. Feel free to give me links to well informed articles.
Google was not helpful at all.
Thanks.
So first of all, this is an idea in it's baby stages. I want input, and if people think it will work. So here's my idea:
I don't know how many of you have seen the build specs of ICS, but I know one guy that couldn't compile for lack of RAM, and he had 12Gb. So what I'm thinking, is for kernel developers, have a community server.
Specs:
4x 2(HT)x 2.66+ GHz processor,
24Gb of RAM,
2Tb of HDD space,
Gigabit connection.
I am looking for developers interested. You would have to show me some of your work, and it will cost some. I am looking at renting it for six months or a year, so depending on how many people are interested will depend on price. Let me know your ideas, if you think it will work, if you're interested, etc.
Hello
I am desperately trying to find a tablet that runs on Windows XP or above that will allow me to insert my sim card and use 3G for online purposes when there is no wifi but will also allow me to make normal GSM calls through a bluetooth headset.
I visit clients and would like to de-clutter into ONE all singing device (plus the headset) that can do everything I need.
Needs to have minimum 1GB ram and screen resolution of 1024 x 768 to accommodate the software I use.
Does anyone know of something that will do all the above with or without modification?
BUMP
Any ideas guys or is it impossible?
Solution
Jaythered said:
Hello
I am desperately trying to find a tablet that runs on Windows XP or above that will allow me to insert my sim card and use 3G for online purposes when there is no wifi but will also allow me to make normal GSM calls through a bluetooth headset.
I visit clients and would like to de-clutter into ONE all singing device (plus the headset) that can do everything I need.
Needs to have minimum 1GB ram and screen resolution of 1024 x 768 to accommodate the software I use.
Does anyone know of something that will do all the above with or without modification?
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What you want is a netbook. Forget using any current gen tablet for this. They would be like trying to take down a rhino with a bb gun.
A 13" 3G netbook or Ultrabook would be more than happy to perform the tasks you require. But remember if you get a Netbook, don't leave the store without buying a 4GB RAM module, as most of them only come with 1GB.
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Slap on the wrists duly taken mod!
Update: The closest product I have come across to what I'm after is the Gigabyte S1080 Slate Tablet.
(can't post url link as newbee - check it out by searching)
It ticked all the right boxes including voice calling using 3G with a SIM card slot.
The screen resolution just let me down though, I needed 1024 x 768 minimum for the software requirements. Arggghhh - so close.
Any other ideas people?
EDIT:: Sorry for the misleading title, I just used ARMV7 to separate phones which would be useless to me, as they are generally unsupported by many applications, although ARMV7 is not a specific requirement to me.
EDIT2:: The price range has been updated to £150 max.
Hi I'm new to the forums, but I wanted to know if you guys could help me out.
I'm looking to purchase a decent device (at least 1ghz processor, decent RAM, preferably at least 4inch screen) for under £130.
It can be in used condition, this frees up the criteria also.
So far I've checked out the Nexus S (£120-150 used) the Galaxy S (£90-110) and the Desire HD (£100-120), but I'm having trouble finding out which is the best choice.
The phone should also have an active community so I can install the latest CM or stable ROM, and be viably supported in future. Also I would like to know which phones are the most easy to port to, modify, etc. Along with any other important aspects I should take into consideration.
Looking for suggestions, please!
TL;DR: Need good device for under £130 used, active community, long-term, other important factors.
Thank you very much!
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