Hello, got my Touch Pro ago 2 or 3 weeks. Lately I noticed a rapid decreasing runtime...
I had the phone the whole night (~8hours) connected to the power-adapter
and this morning around 8am it said the battery is completely full. Around 6pm (less then 12 hours) it automatically turned off.
First I had bluetooth or the weather-update under suspicion, but it was all deactivated. Then I turned of anything that would need a connection to the internet (and even with that sporadically on it shouldn't be empty after 12 hours!)... helped nothing. The last thing I thought what might could be the reason was the "SensorLock"-utility. It locks the phone after it goes into standby, nice if you keep it in the leather-bag and you get calls. But even uninstalling that prog didn't help.
What do I do now? If I send it back to Amazon it takes weeks to get a new battery or phone (German amazon sucks). What about HTC itself? Do they have some battery-replacement guarantee?
How much did you use the phone? Where you texting a lot or calling alot? I text about 100-200 sent messages a day, and my phone lasts about the same amount of time.
djcaston said:
How much did you use the phone? Where you texting a lot or calling alot? I text about 100-200 sent messages a day, and my phone lasts about the same amount of time.
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Nope, no phonecalls (beside one short incomming call) or shortmessages at all. Used it just 30 mins for playing music out of the loudspeaker and to get waked in the morning by the alarm. +300hours standby should'nt be 12 hours if I just use some progs and the display...
The best thing to do is cycle your charge. Leave the phone on until it shuts off and cannot turn on. Then recharge in the off state. Do this and your battery will last longer.
Also, don't leave your phone charging for longer then necessary. I've killed many a phone batteries this way. It should be come general practice to fully charge your battery before you do anything with the phone upon initial receipt. Most phone batteries come with a partial charge, but you should always follow the instruction manual.
I'm not 100% sure, but don't most modern high-end electronics have technology in them that make sure that the battery is not "over-charged" so to speak?
my t-mobile mda, nor my 8525 didnt...
or maybe i was just the victim of two faulty batteries on different phones.
Wow, another battery thread....
Could you please, please use the search option or browse through 4 pages before making a new thread??
Time for a lock.....
i was getting really crappy battery life ( i have a fuze) and this is what i realized:
- romeo's rom kills the battery on the at&t fuze
- S2U2 also kills your battery
-Touch flo is not great for your battery either
i've flashed NATF's rom, and disabled s2u2 (still running tf3d) and i still have about 40-50 % battery life after a full day (medium usage)
good luck
omar
use search...
there are apps that run while your device is off
also, things like 3g/hspda run the battery down quicker
and batteries cant be overcarged these days why would they invent cradles if they wanted us to let the device fully run out before charging again?
For two days in a row I have charged my Fuze before going to bed. I made sure it was fully charged, pulled it off the charger, went to bed, in the morning the phone was on it's last bar. 8hrs of sitting on my desk and the phone fully discharges, something is not right here.
Run Adv Config, & turn 3G off when not using 3G.. It's almost as bad as WiFi... otherwise use a taskmanager and see who is using the CPU....shutdown all programs too when the phone is really not being used. I had the Wizard / Hermes and both were crummy on the batteries...
I do have to admit though that the Fuze does seem to consume more battery already....even though I know I play with it since it's new...lol
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Also, don't leave your phone charging for longer then necessary. I've killed many a phone batteries this way. It should be come general practice to fully charge your battery before you do anything with the phone upon initial receipt. Most phone batteries come with a partial charge, but you should always follow the instruction manual.
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I charged the battery to full state around 5 times after I got it, thats not the prob. Beside: it shouldn't make a difference if you let it connected to the charger, its LiIon and not a NiCd-battery.
It can't be that the battery dies after 2 weeks of use, even in a worst-case scenario! If, HTC is ****ed.
noellenchris said:
Run Adv Config, & turn 3G off when not using 3G.. It's almost as bad as WiFi... otherwise use a taskmanager and see who is using the CPU....shutdown all programs too when the phone is really not being used. I had the Wizard / Hermes and both were crummy on the batteries...
I do have to admit though that the Fuze does seem to consume more battery already....even though I know I play with it since it's new...lol
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As I said earlier, I had the HTC Tytn before, and it really had a standby-time of around 300hours, so if I didn't use it and just carried in my jacket and received here and there some messages or calls it lasted around 3-4 days.
But the TouchPro now only lasts 12 hours "just in my jacket"?? Hello?
And: yes UMTS(3G) makes the battery-time smaller, yup. But e.g. from 350hours to 300 hours, not from 350hours to 12! Even if a GPRS/3G connection is established, as long no data is transfered the connection should, beside some IP-data to keep the connection alive, not make a much less battery-life... again think about the 350hours.
Delphi said:
As I said earlier, I had the HTC Tytn before, and it really had a standby-time of around 300hours, so if I didn't use it and just carried in my jacket and received here and there some messages or calls it lasted around 3-4 days.
But the TouchPro now only lasts 12 hours "just in my jacket"?? Hello?
And: yes UMTS(3G) makes the battery-time smaller, yup. But e.g. from 350hours to 300 hours, not from 350hours to 12! Even if a GPRS/3G connection is established, as long no data is transfered the connection should, beside some IP-data to keep the connection alive, not make a much less battery-life... again think about the 350hours.
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yes, that sucks. i never had any GPRS/3G connection, just enabled and the phone was dead after 12 hours or even earlier.
but since i disabled UMTS my battery lasts a week and longer, im really happy with the device now (but its annoying that i have to enable 3G everytime i need it)
Well in my eyes it is not normal, or if then mis-manufactured stuff.
I would like to know where the difference between the TyTn and the TouchPro is (in case of the UMTS-part) if it was before possible to get a week standby-time and now it dies after a half day.
Oh and btw.: where can I turn off UMTS? In the tytn with Schaps ROM i could do it in the comm-manager.
In the TouchPro I only have buttons for Phone, Wifi, Bluetooth, Flightmode, and DirectPush (what I can't use... no idea how. Works only with MS Exchange-server, huh?)
I know that it says 300 hours, but you'd be foolish to actually expect that. Those conditions would be pretty much not touching the phone, with no programs running, no calls, texts, updates (e-mail, weather, etc), in order to acheive 300 hours.
I'm on a stock AT&T rom albeit with more tweaks than I could possibly imagine with moderate usage (a few phone calls, dozen or so texts, an hour or two of surfing, push e-mail on two accounts updated hourly, GPS for about an hour, maybe more that I can't think of) and I hit about two days.
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I'm on a stock AT&T rom albeit with more tweaks than I could possibly imagine with moderate usage (a few phone calls, dozen or so texts, an hour or two of surfing, push e-mail on two accounts updated hourly, GPS for about an hour, maybe more that I can't think of) and I hit about two days.
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If i was using all that stuff, theres no way i could get 2 days...im on a stock rom too but i get about one day, maybe its because i havent done any tweaks yet? any bettery tweaks or any other useful tweaks you could point me to? i kno i saw some around here but i tried searching and couldnt really find anything
adamantypants said:
I know that it says 300 hours, but you'd be foolish to actually expect that. Those conditions would be pretty much not touching the phone, with no programs running, no calls, texts, updates (e-mail, weather, etc), in order to acheive 300 hours.
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Well, yes. But not only 12 hours without any running program and without any calls and dataconnections.
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Any kind of rom.
Coocked / Official.
You can just write your own battery life and what rom you have.
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Nadavi
good question. With normal call usage, maybe 20-30 calls a day maybe 2-5 minutes each and mild internet usage, maybe 5 sessions at 5 minutes each, I BARELY get a entire day, 6am until 11pm. Normally around 8pm or 9pm i get the battery low message.
And this is with factory setting from AT&T with kaiser tweaks
30 sec time out screen
auto cut off for internet
cache set at default
I'm running Dutty's #3 ROM.
Earlier in this week I put a 1600mah replacement battery in the Kasier... with bluetooth on 24/7, approximately 1 hour of GPS use today and about 30 minutes of wireless usage... I got from 7am until 6pm without needing to charge at all and I still have 27% battery left! I am impressed!
Sorry - according to history, I've had 18 calls today for an approximately 2hrs along with heavy HSDPA internet use due to push email enabled for "deliver straight away" for Outlook, Hotmail and GMail.
ehm, sorry, but this is *** question..
how you want to measure pda's time? everyone is doing something different, different time and in different position of gsm.. it will be just maybe, approximately.. you are not able to have correct data and in that case this is not useful..
I use: Dutty's TouchFlo Rom Final Rom
Usaly GPRS monitor gave 7:45. Now it give 10:13
a couple things
I use the XDA live ROM for the tilt.
The programs you choose will matter most, I don't even think about running tomtom for long without the charger attached. An active push client and wifi generally eat up the battery, and the screen of course.
Consider the conditioning of the battery. You need to make sure that you let it deplete itself for the first couple of weeks and then every 25 charges or so. Actual cracks in the battery cause bad life and so you want them somewhat spaced out. I'm curious to see how long a battery like this will last since it's being pumelled all the time.
If you turn off the 3G you will see an incredible increase in battery life...I know I have. When I want to use the internet I simply turn it back on. Solved pretty much all of my battery life problems. I can go two days without having to charge it again. I don't use the GPS that often but I do a fair amount of e-mail checking and txt messaging as well as 2 hours of talk time a day.
I am using Dutty's TouchFlo Tilt Beta ROM btw.
Nadavi said:
Any kind of rom.
Coocked / Official.
You can just write your own battery life and what rom you have.
Thanks,
Nadavi
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He is right - i still use default ATT rom without bloatware and some customization,30 to 40 min of HSDPA data commection and about hour of calls a day and it consumes about 40% in a day - I can go 48 hours with normal use without recharge
I don't see anything else on this, so perhaps there's something wrong with my Touch Pro -- I'm only getting ~6 hr battery run time, and that's with only the EDGE radio/email/push mail -- no wi-fi, no blue tooth..... seems very short (actually, makes it unusable for me). My Touch Cruise will go all day, with bluetooth.
I'm open to suggestions.
glad you raised this one - mine did the beep beep to dieat 6am this morinng - charged it up and its already only got one battry bar left!!!
wow, mine is doing all of the above as well as blackberry mail and it keeps its charge for days.
Yea mine is the same way. The battery doesn't last very long at all.
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wow, mine is doing all of the above as well as blackberry mail and it keeps its charge for days.
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Days? I find that hard to believe. I reckon if you made no calls at all but left it doing mail only you';d get 2 days at the absolute outside.
Start making calls and stuff and you'r definitely looking at well short of 24hours. I get up between 7 and 8.30am most days and by 22.00 I reckon I'd be looking at having to put it on charge if i've been using the device, making calls etc.
Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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I'm finding these comments of making it through days of use very hard to believe. I'm not saying you're lying or anything but I can assure you that most of us are not experiencing anything of the sort. I knew this full well, the TyTN II was not really that much different (perhaps slightly better but nothing but a knats **** in it).
I take you guys are using the standard supplied battery and not some 2000mAh monster in there?
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Perhaps a comment on the radio bands being used aswell (naturally if you are set to GSM only also).
Long Battery Life
A days useage is what I'm getting at the moment. (ie unplug at 6.20am - start charging at 10pm ish.)
Couple of phone calls, dozen webpages, 2 hours of music, (wired headphones) Activesync running the time.
This is the same as my hermes with the standard battery.
The one thing I will add is that, from my experience, signal strength massively affects battery life. I go to a village in the French countryside once a year, with one cell tower in the middle of the village. The area is very flat, so I get maximum signal everywhere. (I don't go anywhere else.) With Activesync on instant for 14 hours a day and then polling once an hour, 1 phone call a day, plus half a dozen websites a day, I get over three days of useage. (Couldn't believe it at first ) Interestingly, the first year i went with my hermes, I only got 2 days. Several radio upgrades later, I was up to 3 days. (3G is turned off.)
Bottom line, I think we're going to have to wait for improved radio software to help
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Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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Not bad...
My PRO last all the weekend and I didn't do anything special: a few minutes on calls, some text messages, some wireless and GPS! I don't consider bad. Usually, with more use, it lasts 1,5 day
Same problem here.
Disconnected from charger today morning at 7:00
Couple of calls (summary 15min) some callendar entries added, couple of SMS (10 or sth)
No GPS, Wifi enabled just for 2min, all day in 3G field or Edge, 15min of game (solitare afair)
40% of battery at 13:30 :|
ActiveSync was enabled all the time - now it's unloaded permemently (tips provided in other topic on Raphael phorum)
so I'll check if there is any improvement in battery life.
As I mentioned in other topic - for me TP is a typical city phone:
Wake up, disconnect TP from charger and go to work (listen music or browsing the web but if you are planning to use GPS additional car charger is required) then at work you should stay connected to charger or USB. Disconnect your TP and go home (music listening is allowed or even web browsing) but at home dont forget to recharge your TP because out of battery alarm is going to start soon.
Unfortunatelly it's true.
B.
Me too.
Couple of phone calls. (20 min.)
WiFi on, for 15 min.
No 3G enabled.
Charged over night, took it from loader at 7:30, now at 23:00, only 20% left.
Ok, I have S2U2 running, seems to eat battery, but without S2U2 it's not much better.
My Kaiser seems to do much better, I was able to do 2 days without charging.
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Me too.
Couple of phone calls. (20 min.)
WiFi on, for 15 min.
No 3G enabled.
Charged over night, took it from loader at 7:30, now at 23:00, only 20% left.
Ok, I have S2U2 running, seems to eat battery, but without S2U2 it's not much better.
My Kaiser seems to do much better, I was able to do 2 days without charging.
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How did you disable 3D Jon .. I think it'll be worthwhile me doing this when my device arrives.
thanks
be intresting if someone disables the 3D accelerated interface, thebasic 2D screen dosnt have acceleration so it would be intresting to see ho much, if any, extra juice is needed to make it look pretty
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be intresting if someone disables the 3D accelerated interface, thebasic 2D screen dosnt have acceleration so it would be intresting to see ho much, if any, extra juice is needed to make it look pretty
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I don't use TouchFlo3D, just see my post above.
Not really better battery results.
I always use PocketBreeze and PhoneAlarm on my today screen.
@Mitch92uK
?? 3D? I said 3G.
Do you mean the same as dazza9075?
The first night with the touch pro was alarming - when i went to bed the bat was fully charged, and after 6 hours of standby the battery was almost flat, about 12%
What i did was:
1 - Deactivate activesync with Dotfred's taskmanger by disabling replog.exe notifications (learned from another thread)
2 - Disabled 3G
3 - Disabled autoupdates for RRS Hub + weather progs, etc.
4 - Disabled autostart of Operaprel + rsshub and sddaemon by tweaking the reg.
5 - Cleaned up the startup folder.
Now when i soft reset the device it starts up with only 14 processes and the battery life was greatly improved as i get almost 2 days of autonomy as it was with the Touch Cruise.
Hope this can help you too.
This didn't last long, it happened again. 70 % of battery drained over night...
I thought i had it solved but unfortunately i don't understand what's causing this. It went fine for a couple of days.
In my case i thought there was a process consuming batt while on stand by, but now, i don't know anymore.
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Not bad...
My PRO last all the weekend and I didn't do anything special: a few minutes on calls, some text messages, some wireless and GPS! I don't consider bad. Usually, with more use, it lasts 1,5 day
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I have exactly the same. And I am a complainer!!
So much better than my TytnII, and now I use 3G all the time, and have Messenger (Agile) switched on frequently.
I installed only ListPro, Ewallet, Coreplayer, Resco and some minor stuff.
I did nothing of the things written here above.
I am really happy with the battery use. In fact it's the first time I am satisfied with a WM device on the issue of battery.
When (of course) heavily playing with it, the first days, I always let it drain till the last warning and fully loaded it during the night. That's the only thing I can say about it.
I use this 3d Flow.
I have my backlight on auto adjust. I had the idea that it drained faster when full blown, but not sure.
So I am quite shocked/amazed about the experiences here. When will it be my turn?
Huib
About 40 phonecalls a day (ring + vibrate) , 50 emails, 10 or so sms, realtime sync with exchange for both email, contacts and planning, 3G on, bluetooth on, two hours paired with bluetooth carkit, wifi on for like 15 minutes, 1 hour of music, screen on auto and some fiddling around with the settings (changing wallpapers and playing teeter . Start at 6.30 am, back on the charger at 11 pm, still 30% battery left.
I consider that as very good compared to my Tytn i used to have.
Well i have 2 phones, a mogul (no service)
and my new htc touch pro.
Mogul has been in a drawer for 2 weeks now, and still STILL has battery life.
got me thinking. it has no service, so i put it into airplane mode..
so basically its just sitting there.
so i began to think, why does my HTC TP die in no time.
then i remembered, im running Gmail via Imap using flexmail.
basically this connects to the internet, and has a live connection to my gmail email.
so all day long its tracking my gmail,
i went into flexmail, and turned idle mode off, and set it to check email every 15 minutes.
i just did this right before i typed this, so i will post in the morning how it worked out.
if nothing at all this may inspire some of you to look at things your phone is doing that you didnt realize.
i update in morning.
I have mine set to check 2 accounts, a hotmail account every 4 hours and my pop account every 30 mins. I also have it set to auto disconnect data after 3 minutes idle, radio mode on so it can still receive calls. On average when I go to sleep for 8 hours and get up, I get a drop of 3%-4% battery during that time. Not bad at all. My tilt drops at least 8%-10% with the same setup.
ok, how do you have it set to drop data after idle time.
this may help in my quest.
I have mine disconnect after 1 min idle, check hotmail and regular e-mail once every two hours, and try to keep all extraneous programs from accessing Internet without me knowing. I can get up to about two days' normal usage (as of right now, 2:33pm, my battery is about 35% on its second day without a charge).
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ok, how do you have it set to drop data after idle time.
this may help in my quest.
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pssst how do you guys do this?
It seems everyday there is a new thread about a possible solution to the TP battery issue. I've ran the most basic test possible. Mogul by TP, both hard reset, both with radios off. Removed both from charger at 0700 before work. Got home at about 2100. Mogul was at %90 and TP was at %60.
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pssst how do you guys do this?
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Use Advanced Config. Left softkey brings up more options, to disconnect data after a certain time is one of them
What is a soft key? Sorry, I'm new to all this...
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What is a soft key? Sorry, I'm new to all this...
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Your kidding
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What is a soft key? Sorry, I'm new to all this...
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LOL! I laughed so hard I just had to comment. Just in case you were serious.
Soft Keys are the onscreen buttons usually at the very bottom of the screen. I.e. on the Home screen Calender and Contacts would be soft keys.
Except for the Raphael, on most HTC WinMo devices most softkeys have hardkey equivalents that are usually directly under the softkeys.
Well i now have a battery life of a few days (not phoning a lot or using Wifi alot) Also only a drop of 2-3% during the night.
I installed the RomeOS 1.51 whithout any modifications, but if i install the HTC Task manager my battery drains in 1 day (sometimes in 9 hours) so i'm not using that tool anymore
This isn't exactly relevant to the email conversation, and I suppose I could find one of the other 300 battery threads to post this in, but I made a bit of an accidental discovery too.
I had to make a trip for about 10 days and chose to only take my other phone with me. I left the fuze fully charged and without the sim card in, and with gps, wi-fi, and bluetooth turned off (all radio stuff was off). When I got back, at least 11 days total time gone, the battery was sitting at either 66% or 76% (was a few weeks back, I forget)
Not a huge revelation since there should be virtually no power drain with screen off and no active radio, but it further enforces the theory that the radio is a prime suspect for battery drain...and radio roms in particular are worth testing.
I agree that the drain has to do with the Radio.. I have a sprint touch pro and it will drain in a couple hours..
I left it sitting on the table a couple days ago, It was sitting for 2 days and when I checked it it was only down to 60% I also had bluetooth and wifi turned ON. The phone radio was turned off.
I thought the phone was turned off so i did not mean to test it like this but i thought it is worth mentioning.
wifi on and connected
bluetooth on but nothing connected
Phone radio turned off.
2 days sitting and the battery only down to 60%
This phone usually drains to 40% in 4 hours just sitting on standby in my pocket. Does this not proove it is the sprint radio killing the phone.
If you're running a default ROM and haven't changed the power saving settings, wifi turns off when the device auto-sleeps.. bluetooth remains on but by it's design its power draw is very minimal without an active connection.
The phone radio maintains a constant connection to the cell towers, and it doesn't have a deep sleep mode (it has to remain ready to wake the rest of the phone up when a call/sms/mms comes in) - if for whatever reason it's signal drops below a treshold, and it starts hunting for different towers etc. it'll bump it's transmitter up to full power for a period of time..
As long as you're maintaining an active connection to the cell tower, there's gonna be power drain. On the GSM side of things you can minimize it by locking the phone to GSM until you need 3G, the nature of GSM allows it to use less power both in idle and active transmission modes than WCDMA.
As I have tested and re-tested different ways to conserve battery life I can honestly say there is no miracle cure to make it last longer. If you're burning through lots of data (via 3G, HSDPA, etc) you're gonna have even less life. Moderation in usage seems to work best although that's not a viable option for most of us, myself included. With all the talk about better drivers and power plans, has anyone looked at the possability of the battery being crappy? Could it simply be not enough juice for a device of this caliber?
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You're surprised that this person doesn't know what a softkey is, yet you can't speak english correctly...
i don't use data on my phone during the day and I only use about 3-4% battery power a day with a couple of texts in there.
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i don't use data on my phone during the day and I only use about 3-4% battery power a day with a couple of texts in there.
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You're getting unusually good life. In a good week, I get about two days out of a single charge. When I'm not using several features, the battery drain is approximately 30%-40% in one day. This would be a light workday. More times than not, the drain is around 60%-70%.
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You're surprised that this person doesn't know what a softkey is, yet you can't speak english correctly...
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http://www.wordreference.com/enit/kidding= What didn't I speak Correct?
Lol. I'm pretty sure he was talking about your use of "your kidding" instead of "you're kidding"
OK. I'm a week into my TP CDMA by Alltel. I have the GC ROM installed and am not using any of the TouchFlo stuff. I am using SPB/S2U2/Pocketalarm to get a decent setup. I have backed off my email to check once every 10 minutes for one account and only once every 4 hours for the other two.
I have the screen dimmed to almost unviewable, and screen blanks at 10 secs, no BT, no wifi. yet despite that, coming off a full charge this morning having sent 10 texts, checked 2 emails and NO internet NO phone calls. I'm at 62% at 10AM.
By the end of the day with ANY use I'll be dead. I'm coming from a MotoQ that I added the 2100Mah battery which lasted very well but not an option for this phone. Reading that GPS being on may impact the battery but I'm not seeing that the GPS stays on in any way I can determine.
What can I do this is horrible. other tweaks changes? carry another battery? Sucks to thin I'll have to carry a second battery just to make it through the day with minimal use.
Please advise. I like the phone but I just can't justify the abysmal battery life.
Shawn
Im at 94% and I have been using fm radio for 1 1/2 hrs. I think your rom or radio has problems. If other users with same radio and rom dont have the same issue then get your phone replaced.
now at 54% done nothing except 2 more txt.
CDMA use more juice than GSM? (just wondering if comparing apples-apples).
Other CDMA ROMS that people are using with good radio/battery success?
i have the alltel stock rom and my battery is bad to, do the battery tweaks in the wiki help alot? mine isnt as bad as yours i can go to about midnight while sending quite a few texts and a small amount of internet.
You using the latest version of S2U2? I believe anything before 1.40 had a bug that was causing it to drain the battery fast.
Also, look at the S2U2 FAQ at the 8th question:
Q. S2U2 consumes a lot of power?!
A. Make sure there is no music player running in the background.
A. Don't use GIF wallpapers.
A. Don't use a folder of wallpapers.
A. Turn off "Show Appointment".
A. Turn off "Show Weather".
A. Turn on "Don't use Keyboard Hook".
A. Turn on "Ignore screen orientation"
A. If any "auto-rotation" application is installed, please add "S2U2" to it's exception list.
A. Turn on "Safe Mode".
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My phone just died too its 3:20PM, I took it off the charger this morning, checked a couple emails, then for the past 2 hours I have been chatting on IRC through DATA not Wifi, and the past hour ive been switching between Opera and zsIRC.... I also used the FM radio recently for about 10 mins to try it out... is this a lot of strain on the battery or should it last longer, I have the AT&T Fuze with stock rom.
Sometimes I think that there are people in this world (including myself) that suck the life out of batteries no matter what the device is.
My battery life was awful until I changed ROMs and radios.
Now. at around 3pm with fairly heavy use (msn on all day starting around 8am, texting, internet use) on any average day I have roughly 50% battery left with the 1500mAh battery from seidio, which is good enough for me.
the only thing is, I never use 3g as I have a euro raphael so I can only use edge.
Aren't you keeping your Data Connection on all day long? Try to do that on an iPhone. I only turn my Data Connection on when needed so the battery will last longer.
I'm with Alltel as well and mine can go about 8-10 hours with 10-15 texts, 10-20 minute calls, 5-10 emails.
Have you turned off auto update on the weather and windows updates. Also turn off location. (If you want GPS, then you need to turn it back on)
well, I have since reflashed to a new ROM and am having a much better response. getting much better battery but i also have the data connection off after 40 secs. I do have gps on but i thought it was only active when called by a program? ROM made biggest difference. still not 100% happy but getting better.
Hello friends, I currently have a fuze flashed with NRG's latest EnergyROM and I can only push about 5 hrs of heavy use or 8hrs of light use.
Light use consists of:
150 Text messages,
Email every 15 minutes,
3G Turned off
20 Minutes total talk time (Not even sometimes)
Windows Live Messenger online (not the whole day, just a couple hours) and maybe having a 20 minute IM conversation.
Heavy use consists off:
Music Playing
Heavy Texting (300 or more texts)
Screen on most of the time
Most use on EDGE
Browse a couple websites
Maybe some youtube on 3G
I have uninstalled Gyrator to get better life.
I have flashed many ROMs and I this is the best I can get to. How is your experiences? I'm willing to flash 6.1 or 6.5. Let me know what works for you with ROM + Radio + Rilphone combo you have. Thanks!
Everything depends on the rom u have installed. Try this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528217
i drop about 5 pct an hour without doing anything at all
lbhocky19 said:
i drop about 5 pct an hour without doing anything at all
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did u check to see if ur rilphone.dll matches ur radio? cuz thats one possibility thats causing the rapid drops
My battery lasts about 2 days if I don't use the phone heavily but I think that if you squeeze a day out of your Pro with heavy use as you mentioned, you can be glad...
Most of the smartphones use a lot of battery in case of heavy use....
my stock battery lasts me something like 24 hours with medium use. battery life is very radio/rom/charge pattern dependant.
bedobela said:
My battery lasts about 2 days if I don't use the phone heavily but I think that if you squeeze a day out of your Pro with heavy use as you mentioned, you can be glad...
Most of the smartphones use a lot of battery in case of heavy use....
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Right, but even with the slightest use I can only squeeze no more than 10 hrs. I tried every lots of combos with radio and ROMs. NATF 4.7 and Elite RC4 was pretty good enough but I want WM 6.5. Im gonna try the radio you have on your sig just for the heck of it and an almost empty ROM to see what I can accomplish.
Thank you everyone
ya i made sure to match up rilphone
Put it like this... im running Energyrom and I took my phone off the charger at 7 am EST. Right now it's 10:10 EST and I'm down to almost 65% already. That's with Beejive, Seven email with 3 accounts and about 10-15 texts. If I didnt like the rom so much I wouldve dumped it long ago but I just suffer and carry a charger with me.
Check out this program.
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Put it like this... im running Energyrom and I took my phone off the charger at 7 am EST. Right now it's 10:10 EST and I'm down to almost 65% already. That's with Beejive, Seven email with 3 accounts and about 10-15 texts. If I didnt like the rom so much I wouldve dumped it long ago but I just suffer and carry a charger with me.
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I know what you mean. It REALLY hurts but at least you make it thru the day. I can't. But EnergyROM is so slick and fast... I tried the Dynasty Rom its one of the best on battery I've ever had but its a little too buggy for my taste and the iPhone like home screen is not my thing.
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Check out this program.
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Thanks, I'll try that
I have been able to reduce the battery consumption to almost zero on stand by. But it uses 1-2% per minute on Wifi or GPS use. Infact it gets drained fater than it gets charged if GPS is used connected to car charger, with data and WiFi off.
My only gripe is that it gets drained fater than it charges on car charger when GPS is ON.
DJGonzo said:
Light use consists of:
150 Text messages,
Email every 15 minutes,
3G Turned off
20 Minutes total talk time (Not even sometimes)
Windows Live Messenger online (not the whole day, just a couple hours) and maybe having a 20 minute IM conversation.
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If this is light use, then I am Osama bin Laden. 150 messages, WLM and IM means that your display is on most of the time (while reading and replying), and display is one of the great consumers of the battery. Also, the fact that your checking email so often, and you're on internet through IM and WLM, means that you're online practically all the time. Internet is the greatest battery killer, btw. Anyway, I would recommend you to use the stock ROM because the battery lasts longer than majority of custom ROMs, and if don't want that, you shouldn't use 6.5 OS - it's a battery hog at this time. Also, lower your backlight, set in power settings "Turn off the device after 1 minute" and do a search on this forum about more battery saving tips.
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If this is light use, then I am Osama bin Laden. 150 messages, WLM and IM means that your display is on most of the time (while reading and replying), and display is one of the great consumers of the battery. Also, the fact that your checking email so often, and you're on internet through IM and WLM, means that you're online practically all the time. Internet is the greatest battery killer, btw. Anyway, I would recommend you to use the stock ROM because the battery lasts longer than majority of custom ROMs, and if don't want that, you shouldn't use 6.5 OS - it's a battery hog at this time. Also, lower your backlight, set in power settings "Turn off the device after 1 minute" and do a search on this forum about more battery saving tips.
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I know the brightness is a total killer. Last year I had 15 phones... My SIM card is so beat up that it looks like a dog chewed on it. I know all the battery saving tips. I just can't make it work. I do not constantly check WLM. Just once maybe a half hour but I do not IM. I just leave it on. The blackjack II lasts me a whole day from 7 to 12 with email, WLM, major texting, browsing the web and more. I'm not comparing the 2 but the battery life REALLY sucks on this thing. Stock ROM is too slow and useless for my taste. I'm flashing timlol's like-stock ROM to see. The Dynasty ROM really has good battery life but its too buggy. Man I sound so pessimistic. Lol. I still love this phone.
tahdor said:
I have been able to reduce the battery consumption to almost zero on stand by. But it uses 1-2% per minute on Wifi or GPS use. Infact it gets drained fater than it gets charged if GPS is used connected to car charger, with data and WiFi off.
My only gripe is that it gets drained fater than it charges on car charger when GPS is ON.
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I never had that problem. I use google maps on 3G and GPS and it lasts me at least 4 hours on a full charge. You might have a radio/rilphone problem. Try flashing another radio with a matching rilphone
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I know the brightness is a total killer. Last year I had 15 phones... My SIM card is so beat up that it looks like a dog chewed on it. I know all the battery saving tips. I just can't make it work. I do not constantly check WLM. Just once maybe a half hour but I do not IM. I just leave it on. The blackjack II lasts me a whole day from 7 to 12 with email, WLM, major texting, browsing the web and more. I'm not comparing the 2 but the battery life REALLY sucks on this thing. Stock ROM is too slow and useless for my taste. I'm flashing timlol's like-stock ROM to see. The Dynasty ROM really has good battery life but its too buggy. Man I sound so pessimistic. Lol. I still love this phone.
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You don't have to check WLM or IM all the time, it's enough that you are connected to web all the time. Blackjack II has a 2,4" display wioth 320x240 resolution, & Raphael 2,8", 480x640. HTC could've integrate bigger battery, but then our Raphael would be a fat piggy phone.
Btw., Timolol's ROM is pretty stable & good on battery - good choice.
dont forget batteries aren't meant to be permanent. they are consumables!
After 1 year of normal usage you should notice the battery isn't quite what it used to be. after 2 years, it will seem like it needs more charges then it did before.
After 3 years and longer, IMO, its just time to replace the battery.
I replace by laptop battery every 2 years (same chemistry as my cellphone battery), and each time I am shocked and how bad the old one was.
New is always better in the case of batteries.
My next point is that HEAT is the main enemy to any battery. Keeping the phone in your pocket or hot car is worse then in a purse or on a table.
Aside from that, theres a ton of good info above about lowering the drain on the battery and therefore increasing its useful life.
ryaske said:
dont forget batteries aren't meant to be permanent. they are consumables!
After 1 year of normal usage you should notice the battery isn't quite what it used to be. after 2 years, it will seem like it needs more charges then it did before.
After 3 years and longer, IMO, its just time to replace the battery.
I replace by laptop battery every 2 years (same chemistry as my cellphone battery), and each time I am shocked and how bad the old one was.
New is always better in the case of batteries.
My next point is that HEAT is the main enemy to any battery. Keeping the phone in your pocket or hot car is worse then in a purse or on a table.
Aside from that, theres a ton of good info above about lowering the drain on the battery and therefore increasing its useful life.
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Well unfortunately, I must keep my phone inside my pocket or in a case most of the time since I go to school and I do not want the teachers on my case. And looks like the rapahel likes to run a little hot and I'm really scared for my battery. But at least I have two (one from my old Fuze which only lasted me a month since i broke it :-( )
But yeah, my phone gets warm sometimes, and its with most radios. Some more than others but even with matching rilphone. Not sure what thats all about...
About half a day or so, but that's with me listening to music most of the day and EDGE with Exchange Activesync on.
I used to have crazy battery drain. RRE I got 5 hours tops with 3g on and a bit of internet and texting. NRG synergy rom I got 8-10 hours in GSM mode only with 1 hour of internet and a hand ful of texts.
I just flashed my radio to 1.14.25.05 and flashed the new warhawk NRG rom and I took my phone off the charger at 945am and its currently 5pm and Ive been texting most of the day with 3g on and Im currently at 82% battery. All settings are just as they are set right out the box with a freshly flashed warhawk rom.