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Yahoo Email POP

Whats up everyone. This is the first thread I've started and was careful to run multiple searches and read thru a ton of treads before posting it. I'm hoping someone can give me a definitive answer as to if it's possible to get your Yahoo email via some sort of POP without paying for their premium service.
I've used XpressMail (I have a Cingular 8525) and that seemed to work, but it's just a terrible program that I didn't like. I do have work email that uses an Outlook server and that works fine, but I can't get my Yahoo to work. I don't even need push, I would be happy to have a program on my PDA/cell that will just check it every 15 minutes or so.
Yahoo Go! seems to be something that would work, but they don't have 2.0 for my phone yet and it seems there is a huge memory leak issue with 1.0.
Outside of Xpress Mail and Go are there any suggestions for receiving Yahoo email on my phone?
Thanks!
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Cingular 8525
Windows Mobile VI - Black Edition v1.2 (UPDATED with SPL 1.30.Olipro)

Works for me as normal POP. I have a yahoo.co.uk email address, and can use both pop.mail.yahoo.com and pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk, without paying for anything.

Neil_Brown said:
Works for me as normal POP. I have a yahoo.co.uk email address, and can use both pop.mail.yahoo.com and pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk, without paying for anything.
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Cool!! I didn't know it was that simple, I've been using Ypops! for a while, when in fact there's no need for that !1
The problem now is that outlook retrieves ALL messages from my inbox folder. in Ypops I could retrieve only the UNREAD messages in the inbox, which is very helpful. I don't wanna download all 1700+ emails which are on the yahoo account. I know there's a possibility to keep a copy on the server, but it's not what I want... Its would take almost 1 GB to download it all
Is there a way to configure Outlook (without using Ypops) to retrieve only unead messages????

Yahoo! Japan also allows POP without paying for anything...

I would have to sign up for a new yahoo.uk account though, correct? I would really like to keep my current email account as I've had it for about 10 years now...

spon said:
I would have to sign up for a new yahoo.uk account though, correct? I would really like to keep my current email account as I've had it for about 10 years now...
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Yes, as I've also explained in my related tutorial (please DO keep an eye on my articles and check my even older ones - they may prove very helpful) at, say, http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42913 , it's only the "standard" yahoo.com that doens't have FREE pop3 access. All the others do.
Please DO read the above article, I've explained everything in there.

Menneisyys said:
Yes, as I've also explained in my related tutorial (please DO keep an eye on my articles and check my even older ones - they may prove very helpful) at, say, http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42913 , it's only the "standard" yahoo.com that doens't have FREE pop3 access. All the others do.
Please DO read the above article, I've explained everything in there.
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Well, am I missing something?? I have a @yahoo.com account, I didn't upgrade to yahoo plus, but still can receive and send email through Outlook, using the simple pop3 and smtp settings. How is that possible?? in the internal setting of yahoo, I've set it up to UK/Ireland, so I could try the Yahoo mail BETA (which I didn't like)
Anyway - I take the chance to ask again my question - is it possible to let Outlook download ONLY the UNREAD emails in my inbox???
Thanks

;1194519 said:
Please DO read the above article, I've explained everything in there.
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I did read your excellent article prior to posting Menneisyys. It was very informative. I was just hoping that some else may have come up with a solution or if all the @yahoo.com users really are screwed.
Kamal- would you mind telling me exactly what settings you are using in yahoo itself and also in Outlook? Thanks!

spon said:
I did read your excellent article prior to posting Menneisyys. It was very informative. I was just hoping that some else may have come up with a solution or if all the @yahoo.com users really are screwed.
Kamal- would you mind telling me exactly what settings you are using in yahoo itself and also in Outlook? Thanks!
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I can access my account via POP3 on my 8525 for free. And yes I'm in America. It's pretty much the same way as the uk version just without the .uk

giving up on all the cool wm6.1 based roms because of stupid smtp issue

i have used opentouch 5.2 for quite some time and have absolutely loved it. the interface is fantastic. tried out 7.1 today to see if it would fix the "unable to send message" error that I receive when trying to send email via smtp that many people are experiencing with wm6.1.
i am so fed up that I have put back on a tmobile wm6 rom, without threaded sms, without all of the cool features the cooked roms offer, just so I don't have to delete and re-add my 2 email accounts 4-5 times a day because they quit letting me send email after only a little while of being set up anew.
arghh... has anyone found a fix for this?
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i see it is being discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396126
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/09/18/windows-mobile-6-1-smtp-issues (here a Microsoft rep seems to hint that WM v6.14 wil fix this problem)

trevorcobb said:
i have used opentouch 5.2 for quite some time and have absolutely loved it. the interface is fantastic. tried out 7.1 today to see if it would fix the "unable to send message" error that I receive when trying to send email via smtp that many people are experiencing with wm6.1.
i am so fed up that I have put back on a tmobile wm6 rom, without threaded sms, without all of the cool features the cooked roms offer, just so I don't have to delete and re-add my 2 email accounts 4-5 times a day because they quit letting me send email after only a little while of being set up anew.
arghh... has anyone found a fix for this?
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i see it is being discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396126
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/09/18/windows-mobile-6-1-smtp-issues (here a Microsoft rep seems to hint that WM v6.14 wil fix this problem)
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Hi,
mms/sms is working on my v7.1 rom, I have no issues using it and most of my users are not having issues.
Please direct your questions in the original thread so we can help you.

SMTP issues - not SMS
I don't use any of these roms yet, so I have no input on a fix.... but it looks like he is talking about SMTP not working correctly - not SMS - so... basically... his emails stop sending after a short while and he has to re-configure his email settings constantly to be able to send his emails.... sounds very annoying - is this a common problem? (makes me think twice about flashing my phone to a 6.1 rom as I use email almost constantly for business)

Yes this is a very annoying problem especially when you store a lot of mails on your device and finally one day it stops sending.
Alternatives like Flex Mail are too slow..
Regards,
Carty..

zaep0b said:
I don't use any of these roms yet, so I have no input on a fix.... but it looks like he is talking about SMTP not working correctly - not SMS - so... basically... his emails stop sending after a short while and he has to re-configure his email settings constantly to be able to send his emails.... sounds very annoying - is this a common problem? (makes me think twice about flashing my phone to a 6.1 rom as I use email almost constantly for business)
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Thats strange,
I guess I must have misread it, I've always sync my mail with my companies exchange server and never had any issues.

ttran001 said:
Thats strange,
I guess I must have misread it, I've always sync my mail with my companies exchange server and never had any issues.
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Same here, except I use the free Mail2Web. I rarely if ever have used anything but exchange on these phones.

Ill test using smtp. Exchange works fine.
Edit: working fine so far will test more.

Working fine here
I've been using email a lot on my phone, worked fine for a good six months now with the 6.1 roms. OTP6.5 still being used here... I love the simplicity and stability of HTC home.

yeah it's not an SMS/MMS issue, it's an SMTP issue.
are there any WM6 cooked roms (not wm6.1) that include the WM6.1 threaded SMS system?

trevorcobb said:
yeah it's not an SMS/MMS issue, it's an SMTP issue.
are there any WM6 cooked roms (not wm6.1) that include the WM6.1 threaded SMS system?
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No. It's integrated into WM6.1 that I know off.

SMTP Works fine in WM6.1
I have been using WM6.1 Cooked ROMS for a while now and all 6 of my SMTP email accounts work just fine. Never have had to reset anything to use it, only time I have had sending issues are in areas with weak signals and large emails.

i can set up a pop/smtp account in my device with a wm6.1 cooked rom and it will work great for a few hours or a few days sometimes, but inevitably i will get an error message about "unable to send" and after that 1 time of receiving the error message it will *NEVER* send email again on that account until I delete it and re-add the account (and re-write all the emails stuck in my outbox).

It may not be the ROM, I have this problem with 6.0 & 6.1 Official ATT ROMs.
Hi trevorcobb,
I have the same problem you described with email.
I have it on my Tilt, running Official ATT WM6.0 and WM6.1 ROMs. It's VERY ANNOYING!
I've tried POP3 and IMAP4 configurations of my gmail accounts, without luck.
I've tried using different networks, no luck.
I've deleted and recreated my email accounts in my Tilt, and it temporarily fixes the problem, until a few weeks or days later my emails stop going out.
I've looked for help in the Gmail Forums, and other places and found very little.
It seems odd that it should work for a while and then stop, without any warning.
I'll keep working on it, and let me know if anyone knows what causes this or how to fix it permanently.

trevorcobb said:
i see it is being discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396126
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/09/18/windows-mobile-6-1-smtp-issues (here a Microsoft rep seems to hint that WM v6.14 wil fix this problem)
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The OP noted the exact problem - smtp-, not exchange server-based accounts. If the links above describe the problem accurately, it appears that you will not see this problem unless you have timed out an email send request via smtp.
Allegedly there is a fix on way - not holding my breath...
It is possible to add much of the 6.1 functionality to 6.0 - like threaded sms. Some folks report that they have gotten manilla/touchflo2d working as well.
Some kaiser chefs are threatening to go back to cooking 6.0 ROMs - see here which were all faster than the bloated 6.1s anyway.
Nevertheless, hoping to see a fix or update from WM - how would you like to be rocking a Diamond or Touch HD and have this problem?
Cheers,

maurlife said:
I'll keep working on it, and let me know if anyone knows what causes this or how to fix it permanently.
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Try this, it worked for me.

Is there a way to have windows mobile send a read request with emails that are sent

Is there a way to have windows mobile send a read request with emails that are sent from it ?

that option is in Window 6.5 included

Bulldog said:
that option is in Window 6.5 included
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Iam using Dutty's 6.5 .
But, i couldn't see any option to configure in mail options or anywhere else?
Please pardon my ignorance

Very sorry for misleading you.. my bad...I was in flexmail

Bulldog said:
Very sorry for misleading you.. my bad...I was in flexmail
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No problem.
Lemme try Flex mail then.
Any suggestions about some other mail clients supporing this feature?

skr_xd said:
No problem.
Lemme try Flex mail then.
Any suggestions about some other mail clients supporing this feature?
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If you are running exchange setup the option in your desktop outlook. Resulting email will come into your device inbox. It should not matter if the email is generated on the device or desktop but I could be wrong. Remember if they have “Ask Me Before Sending Read Receipt,” “Don’t Send Read Receipt,” or their email client doesn’t know what to do with it you may not get a Read Reply.

Seven Push Email with Orange Email

Has anybody managed to set up an Orange email account with SEVEN push email?
I'm struggling with this one because when I enter the POP server name - which is pop.orange.co.uk - SEVEN seems to convert it to
pop3.pop.orange.co.uk. In other words, SEVEN seems to think that all server names begin POP3, and 'helpfully' adds it for us automatically.
Anybody else encountered this? It may affect accounts other than Orange. Any solutions...?
Thanks!

Have you verified that those POP settings are indeed correct?

chambo622 said:
Have you verified that those POP settings are indeed correct?
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Those are the settings I use in Outlook on my PC, and elsewhere....
Thanks.

I am using Seven for email and have no problems, OK i am not collecting Orange mail, so can't really help directly.
Best suggestion would be to post it in the Seven support forum where their tech guys will see it and hopefully offer some help.

SMS/MMS Gateway Adresses

Since I couldn't seem to find the gateway address I was looking for (Golan Telecom IL), I thought that it would be a great idea to simply have them all listed here.
I'll have this post updated with the info and thanks to the users who typed them in this thread. I'll be glad if others will pitch in.
Update:
1. Added Golan Telecom IL & Hotmobile/Cellcom(?)
2. Modified gateways to reflect all possible addresses.
Update 2:
1. It is indeed Hotmobile.
2. Fixed Golan Telecom IL.
3. Added Pelephone.
4. Orange IL is now Partner Communications.
Update 3:
1. Added Cellcom (thanks to @moxfyre)(pending verification).
2. Golan Telecom may be invalid, currently testing (thanks to @gimpelphone).
3. Clarified that this Cellcom is the Israeli company, which has nothing to do with the American MVNO in Wisconsin.
Partner Communications: [email protected]
Golan Telecom IL (Possibly invalid now): [email protected]
Hotmobile: [email protected]
Pelephone: [email protected]
Cellcom (Israel) (pending verification):
[email protected]
Thanks to @gimpelphone, @moxfyre, and anonymous donors.

moriel5 said:
Partner Communications: [email protected]
Golan Telecom IL: [email protected]
Hotmobile: [email protected]
Pelephone: [email protected]
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This is great! I have been looking for a guide that covers the major Israeli providers.
Unfortunately, the Golan Telecom gateway does not seem to be working anymore, as of May 2018. Is there a change to the domain?

moxfyre said:
This is great! I have been looking for a guide that covers the major Israeli providers.
Unfortunately, the Golan Telecom gateway does not seem to be working anymore, as of May 2018. Is there a change to the domain?
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I do not yet know, I'll check once I fix the OS on my phone (I was playing with the WiFi libraries).
If you have a phone on Golan Telecom, you can also check, just send a text to your email address.

Received an email from Golan Telecom regarding SMS gateway at 2018-07-11
Google translate:
To date, our company is not supported for sending an email to an SMS message.
If this service receives support in the future, we will update it on our site.
Best regards,
Customer Inquiries Team
Golan Telecom
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To support the feature send an email to "gtpniyot (shtrudel) golantelecom.co.il"
Thnaks

moriel5 said:
Since I couldn't seem to find the gateway address I was looking for (Golan Telecom IL), I thought that it would be a great idea to simply have them all listed here.
I'll have this post updated with the info and thanks to the users who typed them in this thread. I'll be glad if others will pitch in.
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Cellcom numbers (052) are supposed to be SMS-able via email to…
052#######@cellcom.co.il

moxfyre said:
Cellcom numbers (052) are supposed to be SMS-able via email to…
052#######@cellcom.co.il
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Thanks, I'll update my post.
By the way, have you verified this?

gimpelphone said:
Received an email from Golan Telecom regarding SMS gateway at 2018-07-11
Google translate:
To support the feature send an email to "gtpniyot (shtrudel) golantelecom.co.il"
Thnaks
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Sorry for not responding earlier, I did not have the time to log in (and even now, I have no time, this is simply a fledgling (if old) post, that has next to no one here, so I could spare time for it.
I'm currently checking the situation.

Golan says, that they don't support the future, only if many other people will ask for it
to ask for the future please send an email to "gtpniyot (shtrudel) golantelecom.co.il"

gimpelphone said:
Golan says, that they don't support the future, only if many other people will ask for it
to ask for the future please send an email to "gtpniyot (shtrudel) golantelecom.co.il"
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I have just finished my tests, and I also sent them a message regarding this.
No, Golan Telecom's claim is false.
This is a basic feature of a messaging stack, send/recieve, and SMS/MMS is no different, it just runs on a semi-separate network from the internet, which is why the gateway address is needed.
I can send messages from my phone to my email adress, but not recieve them.
This tells us that either, 1. Golan Telecom has disabled incoming traffic on the gateway, or 2. they are actively blocking either certain or all incoming traffic on the gateway (it's not that hard, just specify what port and what kind of traffic you want the kernel to drop packets instead of accepting them), while allowing outgoing traffic on the gateway.
My guess, is that it is possible they do not want people to send heavy files to their phones from their email, as then they lose out on much of the income that it can produce, while still having to pay Cellcom for the usage of their network.

moriel5 said:
I can send messages from my phone to my email adress, but not recieve them.
This tells us that either, 1. Golan Telecom has disabled incoming traffic on the gateway, or 2. they are actively blocking either certain or all incoming traffic on the gateway (it's not that hard, just specify what port and what kind of traffic you want the kernel to drop packets instead of accepting them), while allowing outgoing traffic on the gateway.
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Interesting. I've tried sending an SMS from my GT SIM card to a couple email addresses, and none of them worked. (The Android AOSP messaging app just said they couldn't be send.)
moriel5 said:
My guess, is that it is possible they do not want people to send heavy files to their phones from their email, as then they lose out on much of the income that it can produce, while still having to pay Cellcom for the usage of their network.
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In general, I would guess that Israeli carriers don't bother with these things because (a) over-the-top messaging like WhatsApp is so pervasive in Israel and relatively few people are using "normal" SMS and (b) Israeli carriers are mostly "dumb pipes" charging a low price for an undifferentiated set of services — generally a good thing.