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I'm sure this is a noob question, but I can't find the answer on the forum.
I've seen a couple people reference automatically ending the data connections when they're idle. Can someone explain how this is done?
Is the desire to disconnect the data to save on battery life? Just curious. Thanks.
That's the main reason I want to do it...not sure about others...
I figured out two ways to do this for anyone else that's interested.
1) Using Advanced Config Tool (V3.3): Menu > More Settings > Connections. Check "Disconnect After" and set the timeout you want. This seems to work well for activesync connections (my mail is set to recieve every 5 min), but doesn't always work for on demand connections (Internet).
2) Comm Manager Pro. No instructions for this since I'm not using it (yet). But everything I've read looks like it does it.
Like I mentioned, I've got my email configured to sync every 5 minutes and I have a connection timeout of 30 seconds set in Advanced Config. This setup has drastically improved my battery life. Before this change, I got maybe 12 hours on a good day. With this timeout set, I could probably get 2 solid days. The only thing I haven't figured out is if the timeout is and idle timeout or an overall timeout. What I mean, is will the connection end after 30 seconds even if it's in use?
I'm interested in this as well, it would be even better if outlook or msn live would make a connection and disconnect after synchronizing.
I've been looking for the same solution. So far using advanced config settings will force disconnect no matter if it was idle or not. I'm looking for a solution to disconnect only when idle.
As of proof, set auto disconnect to 1 minute and using latest skype v3.0 start transferring a large file. After 1 minute data connection will be forcibly disconnected.
Any solutions for this?
Thank you.
Can someone help me find the timing setting in Advanced Config? I've looked through everything - using Energy 3.0 Rom (WM6.5) and don't see anything related to data disconnect other than under "Data Connections:" "GPRS disconnect:" and my settings are "Enable button and timer"
I don't see where the timer comes into play; don't really care if the connection gets cut off - I'd rather see a battery life improvement.....
I'm an absolute idiot. I just skimmed through the thread and didn't read the post above... *smacks forehead*
Its been posted in this very topic, and its only 5 replies long
xawen said:
I figured out two ways to do this for anyone else that's interested.
1) Using Advanced Config Tool (V3.3): Menu > More Settings > Connections. Check "Disconnect After" and set the timeout you want. This seems to work well for activesync connections (my mail is set to recieve every 5 min), but doesn't always work for on demand connections (Internet).
2) Comm Manager Pro. No instructions for this since I'm not using it (yet). But everything I've read looks like it does it.
Like I mentioned, I've got my email configured to sync every 5 minutes and I have a connection timeout of 30 seconds set in Advanced Config. This setup has drastically improved my battery life. Before this change, I got maybe 12 hours on a good day. With this timeout set, I could probably get 2 solid days. The only thing I haven't figured out is if the timeout is and idle timeout or an overall timeout. What I mean, is will the connection end after 30 seconds even if it's in use?
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In advanced config the settings you are looking are not located in the list on first screen, the are in separate menu as described above.
And now I'll quote myself so my question will not get burred:
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I've been looking for the same solution. So far using advanced config settings will force disconnect no matter if it was idle or not. I'm looking for a solution to disconnect only when idle.
As of proof, set auto disconnect to 1 minute and using latest skype v3.0 start transferring a large file. After 1 minute data connection will be forcibly disconnected.
Any solutions for this?
Thank you.
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guys, found this
http://www.andrewsayshello.com/windows-mobile/auto-disconnecting-idle-data-connections-in-wm6/
hope this helps in some way
Thanks for the link, unfortunately it still disconnects even if data connection is in use.
WMLongLife can do this for you.
About the registry tweak that does this, I must warn you: it disables the ability to do voice and data simultaneously.
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WMLongLife can do this for you.
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Just checked WMLongLife and it seems that program does not quiet work if one doesn't use opera or wifirouter...
Chainfire said:
About the registry tweak that does this, I must warn you: it disables the ability to do voice and data simultaneously.
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This is new for me...I thought that data connection cannot co-exist with phone call, period..
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Just checked WMLongLife and it seems that program does not quiet work if one doesn't use opera or wifirouter...
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Yes it does require a certain way of using your phone (current test version has specific settings - you can change this in next version). Just saying.
This is new for me...I thought that data connection cannot co-exist with phone call, period..
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Yes it can, but it depends on several factors. Under ideal (and never actually occuring) conditions it can be done with 2G GSM (GPRS/EDGE). Normally, however, either GPRS/EDGE connection suspends ('pauses') during voice call, or with 2G CDMA voice call may not work at all while data connection active (depends on exact 2G CDMA network type).
With 3G GSM (UMTS/HSPA) it is quite possible (and normal) to do data and voice simultaneously, however for some reason the auto data disconnect registry tweak breaks it. I'm not quite sure why, but it does.
3G CDMA (EV-DO) behaves the same as 2G GSM with regards to simultaneous voice and data (data drops), however, EV-DO Rev. A behaves the same as 3G GSM (possible but broken by registry tweak)
Aside from this, it is also needed that your provider/network has the correct hardware to handle this. I'm not sure how common it is for this properly operating on EV-DO Rev. A, but for UMTS/HSPA early tower equipment was bugged and did not allow this. In Europe, most UMTS/HSPA towers have since been upgraded to allow simultaneous voice and data (and HTC handsets support this perfectly), but how this is in the USA I cannot say.
Hope that explains it (it is a bit messy explenation I know)
if this dowsn't work then i have no ideea what will )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484084
tell me if worked for you
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I had it set to disconnect (via Diamond Tweak software) after 1 minute of activity. I did this to preserve battery life, BUT BUT BUT
With 3g on, and even with 3g disabled all day and edge on, the battery still died in 8, 12 hours (3g, edge) with the connection disabling. i use the phone for a good number of calls, text, and some data every day.
AFTER i reenabled it to NOT disconnect after every 1 minute, i pulled over 24 hours on a SINGLE charge.
am i the only one that's experienced this??
Hi,
As you can see im pretty new to the polaris and i have been seeking a few answer for a few hours and can't seem to find an answer to a few of them,
So i hope some of you might be able to answer these for me.
1) I would only like to use internet through WIFI, so to prevent a huge phone bill i would like to disable gprs (this is the only internet option next to wifi right?)
I tried an application called NoData but it crashes on startup.
2) These are spb shell related: With spb 3 my phone doesn't go into standby (the screen turns off to save battery) also my scroll bars don't function anymore (this doesn't really bother me though)
3) Speed and memory, will using less memory speed up my device? As i see it memory will only reduce performance when it really low (usually i am at 50% usage)
Thanks allot for reading.
1) Advanced Config from here http://www.touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool/downloads.html
Go to menu => more settings => connections Then disable the ones you dont want (all in your case)
2) No idea whats going on there sorry
3) Less memory used will mean faster. The main thing that slows it down is background applications running (using memory and cpu). So if you dont need something open then shut it. Thats pretty much it.
Hope its helpful!
menu => more settings => connections is empty does that mean i safe from huge bills?
The thing with my memory i have nothing running and i am at 50% so i was thinking of possibly switching to a light rom if that would matter (I just like the tools full comes with)
Thanks for your answers!
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
See above link. The tiny program "No Data" does what you seek.
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1) I would only like to use internet through WIFI, so to prevent a huge phone bill i would like to disable gprs (this is the only internet option next to wifi right?)
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Hmmm... there could be a bit of problem... I'm connecting trough all types of connection: EDGE, GPRS, HSDPA, WiFi...
Altough, I'm not sure does EDGE connection work if you don't have data plan...
andbertina said:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
See above link. The tiny program "No Data" does what you seek.
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If you read my post, you would see i tried No Data but it crashes when i start it Nullrefence exception.
Maybe i could just ask this, i like the idea of footprint when i start it asks if it can use google location service.
Now from working with this i know that google can either query using CellID (which is free) or using the internet well i don't really want to use internet for every footprint or every weather update that is not wifi you see
If there are no connections then i would say that you cannot connect to whatever mobile internet point. If you dont mind having a small charge try it once and see then you can be sure that it will not have an unwanted connection.
On the front of light vs full probably a little difference but really there wont be huge differences i think.
@Bodisson yeh edge will still work without a data plan but it will eat your money for breakfast
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If there are no connections then i would say that you cannot connect to whatever mobile internet point. If you dont mind having a small charge try it once and see then you can be sure that it will not have an unwanted connection.
On the front of light vs full probably a little difference but really there wont be huge differences i think.
@Bodisson yeh edge will still work without a data plan but it will eat your money for breakfast
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You where right, i tried to weather update nothing, i tried footprints and then to connect to googlemaps it crashed.
Guess im safe
Basically, im trying to find a program which will turn off
any data connections you have.
If there is, Id assign it to the send key (press & hold)
This would remove the need to open up the comms
manager then click "data connection"
Hope there is, it would make life a lot easier for me
and everyone else who uses mobile internet a lot
but doesnt want to murder their battery.
I use the internet a lot because of being on contract
and have unlimited internet usage, but if I left it connected
all the time, my Touch Pro 2 would probably only last
about a few hours. Im constantly having to open up
the communication manager and turn off my data connection
that way.
alternatively, do any programmers know how to turn off the data connection through coding? I know a bit of Visual basic and would happily make my own program for this, I just cant seem to find out how to turn it off.
Does holding the end-call button for a few seconds work? It has done on all htc models I have tried
now i feel really stupid
I knew that, I simply hadnt set it up to.
It was set to lock the phone whenever I held the end key,
so I just put it out of my mind. lol
thanks
youve made my life a lot easier
Ive now bound the Notes app to the green key ;D
Isnt it just sweet when theres a simple answer
Ill change your title to solved and close the thread
Hey there, I'm looking for a little app on my Froyo that will turn on the WiFi and disable the 3G as soon as I reach my home (for example) and when I move outside again, that it'll disable the WiFi and enable the 3G.
Whether it's done by GPS or done simply by noticing if the WiFi signal is available, I don't mind. Does anyone have a clue about this?
I'm not sure if either can do it since I've yet to use them, but you may want to look into two programs, one called "Tasker" the other "Locale"
Both have the ability to execute location based tasks.
I've used both Tasker and Setting Profiles to accomplish this. Tasker is very powerful, but a bit fiddly to get working correctly.
SP is simpler, and works very well. The jury is still out.
There are a few apps that will do that like tasker and locale, but for my needs I use setting profiles.
Y5
Y5 do it great. remembers WIFI location acording to cell info (doesn't waist battery for GPS) and turn on and of.
only bug in my eyes it that in order to shut down WIFI on a remembered location, you need to disable app or forget location.
Thanks so far for the replies! Right now I'm trying Y5. The rest doesn't really work for me. I've tried Tasker, but no... then I've bought "Setting Profiles" as it seemed to be promising, but it doesn't recognize the places where I'm at. Both through GPS as well as cell towers... it knows where I am, but doesn't change my profile. Big pity!
So, now I'm trying Y5. Only down side is that so far none of the programs has the ability to disconnect the 3G upon activating WiFi.
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Thanks so far for the replies! Right now I'm trying Y5. The rest doesn't really work for me. I've tried Tasker, but no... then I've bought "Setting Profiles" as it seemed to be promising, but it doesn't recognize the places where I'm at. Both through GPS as well as cell towers... it knows where I am, but doesn't change my profile. Big pity!
So, now I'm trying Y5. Only down side is that so far none of the programs has the ability to disconnect the 3G upon activating WiFi.
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i think it does!
at least in HTC DESIRE it turn 3G off
Locale can do the job. For example, you can set 3 situations.
Set 'At Home' Situation - Condition: Location plug in(any good location plug in)
- Settings: Locale variable plug-in, add, type 'Home', True.
Set at Defaults - Add Locale variable, add Home = False
Add Wifi - Off
Add 3G - ON
Set Wifi - Conditions: Home = True
Settings: Wifi on
3G off
For my case, I've added Appli Detection condition for the Wifi situation where it detect my browser, etc and perform the wifi on. Hope this helps. IMO, Locale does best and is simple.
I use Tasker to do exactly what you ask.
When I get home, Wifi turns on, 3G turns off. And vice versa when I leave.
Same when I get to work.
I do both of these without the need for GPS or even cell tower location..it's based on when I'm near my home wireless network.
Also turns off wifi, 3G and screen rotation when I'm in bed.
And then makes me breakfast in the morning (well, not quite, but it's almost that good! )
Okay guys, I have definitly uninstalled Setting Profiles. I can't seem to rely properly on it. One time it works, the other time it doesn't. So, I simply don't want it anymore
Now I'm trying Tasker, seems promising. I have downloaded APNDroid next to it, as Tasker was notifying me about the fact it needs that program to be able to (dis)connect the 3G. Now.... I'm stuck for a bit. I have made tasks, but have trouble with the profile. The location, I would like that to be done as the scotsman has got it. According to if it finds your home as well as, in my case, work network. How to do that? Cause when I want to set my location, it takes me to google maps. And I take it that works by GPS. No problem neither, but drains the battery a bit more... Would anyone be so kind to give me quick and short step through?
akito said:
Okay guys, I have definitly uninstalled Setting Profiles. I can't seem to rely properly on it. One time it works, the other time it doesn't. So, I simply don't want it anymore
Now I'm trying Tasker, seems promising. I have downloaded APNDroid next to it, as Tasker was notifying me about the fact it needs that program to be able to (dis)connect the 3G. Now.... I'm stuck for a bit. I have made tasks, but have trouble with the profile. The location, I would like that to be done as the scotsman has got it. According to if it finds your home as well as, in my case, work network. How to do that? Cause when I want to set my location, it takes me to google maps. And I take it that works by GPS. No problem neither, but drains the battery a bit more... Would anyone be so kind to give me quick and short step through?
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I use Tasker, but I do not believe you can use WiFi location if WiFi is off. Location base uses GPS. You can set an option to do tasks if the WiFi connects. 3G is automatically disabled on my Incredible when WiFi connects, so I do not have to implicitly set it off. Just be sure to adjust your radius when you use GPS location. You do not want to drive way down the street to have WiFi turn off and 3G come back on.
I use Tasker to also launch the car app when bluetooth connects in my truck. There are good examples on the Tasker Web site.
Hi all!
I just recently upgraded from a Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0" to a Moto G. I sold my SGP and accessories for almost what I paid for my Moto G, which I considered a pretty good deal. I currently have no need for a cell phone, however, and merely use the Moto G as I did the SGP. That means connecting with WiFi only and using it mostly as a media and navigational device (with pre-downloaded maps and GPS enabled).
In an attempt to conserve as much of the (already amazing) battery life as possible, I've set location to Battery Saver and disabled "Data enabled" and "Data roaming" under Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile network settings. I've also set "Battery Saver" under Settings>Battery to "On". Despite this "Cell standby" under Settings>Battery still consumes an average 20% of a full charge of my battery. Part of this could be that as I am in a remote location, with only very weak cell signals available, the device is constantly searching for signal despite the fact that I do not even have a SIM card installed.
Is there any possible manner in which I could switch off the cellular modem in the phone without switching off WiFi? I can set the device to "Airplane Mode" but that also turns off WiFi, which I prefer to leave on during the day and only switch off at night. I am very new to Android 4.x, so do not yet know all the ins and outs of the Settings menu, and as such may be missing something. Or there might just not be the option. Either way, is what I am wanting to do possible?
You can turn WiFi back on (long press it in the quick settings tile) after enabling Airplane Mode. There may be an app or widget to do this more seamlessly, though.
Turn OFF cellular radio.
I can't wait for my Moto-G to arrive, so I am winging it here..
You can try this: *#*#4636#*#*, and you will enter the TEST mode.
Select Phone information, and scroll down to where you see the SMSC dialog box, directly above this, you will see another greyed out box with the wording: Turn off radio. Select that, and the radio will be disabled, but will restart on a reboot, but there is a way to shut off the radio completely as well, but this should help for now.
You can also use this: ##7764726(program) and then tap DIAL to access the SPC password menu, where you enter SIX ZEROES, and tap 'verify' to enter the programming menu.
The two you will be more interested in, are the first and third selections, User activation and Extended NAM
You can wipe all the data if you wish (but write that information on paper so you will know its location if you decide to actually use that device in the future!
Scroll down to Extended NAM and write that information down, first to last, in proper order as before.
If you wish to completely disable ALL outbound dialing, you should delete the emergency number listings as well.
To upgrade your overload class, change that number to a '1', so some schmuck can't boot your call in favor of theirs.
Your MIN and MDN should be erased, as this prevents the phone from placing any calls, even 911 calls if you erased those numbers.
You can erase everything, from the SID to the MCC (Mobile Country Code), to anything the phone uses to access the network.
Just write everything down in proper order so you have a point of reference when you forget what you did.
Once you finish your task, reboot the device. You may need to once again, shut off the radio using the *#*4636#*# operation, but each device is unique here, you may not need to do this.
You can then try the above mentioned shut down procedure again, and disable the radio completely.
WiFi should still be operational
Thank you both very much for your replies! tma200's method works quite well for me, being easy to get to (definitely seamless compared to doing anything in Gingerbread!) and simple to remember. Thank you for your reply, AECRADIO, I'll keep it in mind if I ever need to do some more advanced radio management on my device!