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hey guys, i was thoroughly disappointed with opera mobiles performance.. it really sucked (for me at least). Page would take a long time to open, and the windows would move all over the place while the page was loading, etc. Anyways, i finally decided to download opera mini and its a world of a difference, its amazing! however to do it correctly, follow this guys advise:
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/running-opera-mini-41-on-windows-mobile-2/
dont just go to operamini.com and download the version they tell you, because then you have to agree to that message everytime you go to a page. if you do it the way this guy says, you only have to give permission the first time you open opera. he also shows you a way to have it as a program, eliminating the need to open the jbed java app to launch from there.
another thing i did, is because our device is vga, the font was small. i set it to extra large, and its very good. even the scrolling is much better on the mini version, and ITS MUCH FASTER!! i cant emphasize the last one enough. anyways, just wanted to let u guys know, good luck
ps: also, something that is huge for me, typing something into a webpage is also much better now. on opera mobile, i would have to try to fit the screen size so i can see what i'm typing; with opera mini, it opens a new window for you to t ype in, it's like your typing in word or something. makes a huge difference IMO
omar

I couldn't agree more.
Unless something is wrong with just my phone, I can't see how anyone would like Opera Mobile.
Just open any forum page here. Probably takes 20-30 seconds to load on Opera Mobile on a fast Wifi connection...and that's after it takes 5-10 seconds to just load up.
Do it on Opera Mini and it takes maybe 2 on a 1x connection, even.
Opera Mini doesn't have tabs, but you are saving so much time elsewhere, that's livable.
It also runs through a proxy, so I guess you could get stale pages or https stuff won't work great.
But, for 95% of the browsing I do, Mini works perfectly and is unbelievably fast and it's clear on the vga screen.
I also chose Extra Large fonts.
If you decide to use Opera Mini, here's a way to make it the "default" for opening links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384271

Have you guys tried the newer version of Skyfire? If so, do you like Mini better?

ya i use mini much more than mobile
btw just download this zip, extract cab and install it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=113596&d=1221663410
it will ask if u want to make mini default browser...also installs java if u dont have it.
i change my image quality to high and font to biggest settings

I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..

yeah, im done using opera mobile, mini works so good!
i also use piscel and sometimes skyfire if im next to an ac jack... ill use ie just as i do on desktop, BUSINESS ONLY!

I used Opera Mobile for about a minute....
Help: I am having a problem with Mini not fully loading pages and getting white screens. I have Jbed 2.1 (read it was better than the newest version) and the newest Mini. Any advise?

I love the speed of Mini (thanks for posting the download link), but even on extra large the text is very very small. Is there a way to make it show up bigger?

XL3N7 said:
I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..
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Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC

Another opera mini fan here, the fastest browser I have used, that includes skyfire. Only issue is lack of tabs, but otherwise its great

hchavarria said:
Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC
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No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA

im using a mix of ucweb and operamini.. loving it. the only thing wrong with this phone is the lack of softkeys.. makes browsing with mini a little harder..

I've been using the "vga" version of skyfire since it came out, and I love it for its full browsing experience, speed, and ability to watch video in the browser.

Thank you for this thread!
I never used opera mini before and I was amazed by it's speed. It's not going to be my default browser (that's still PIE because I almost only view sites which are optimized for mobile devices) but it's absolutely perfect for viewing this forum for example!

XL3N7 said:
No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA
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This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.

Opera Mobile.. it's just CRAP compared to Opera Mini.
CONS Opera Mobile:
- load time (HTC/Opera cheat by preloading Opera at StartUp)
- lots of squares while dragging
- many times while you drag the stupid software cannot make difference between dragging and tapping
- if you drag the page and the page is still loading, you are dropped to other position that you are.. this is so annoying.. you have to drag again or wait until all the page elements are loaded by the browser
So, Opera Mini is very good on the majority of sites. (there are problem with the pages with many images, it cannot handle all of them).
I'm using a VGA version of jbed and I don't have problem with font size ANYMORE.
Big thanks to trueg. Get it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2973176&postcount=23

if i'm not mistaken, the reason why opera mini is so fast is because the pages are actually cached or pre-processed by Opera servers and then sent to you. with Opera mobile, you connect to the website directly.

Lorrimer said:
This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.
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That's very strange. It works great on my Blueangel, Wizard, Universal, Trinity and Raphael with all the custom roms I have installed on them and with the shipped rom on the Raphael the first day I got it.
Try installing on the SD card or the device memory, whichever you haven't tried.

Still have to say yes
Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site? If I exit and open, the first time I try to open I get this annoying request. Followed the directions exactly and had no problems?
Also can't seem to browse with this on wifi, anyone else having this issue?

cparkhorn said:
Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site?
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Yes, I have the same issue. But since I just have to click ok once in every session it's ok for me.

Javascript in Opera Mobile

I was using TyTN II before I got the fuze, and using opera on the TyTN II I could access hotmail and google reader's iphone interface through opera mobile(not opera mini). However I can not do that on the opera browser on the fuze. When I install macromedia flash player 7 google reader starts to work(however without the stars to mark the items) but on a soft reset it stops working, the starting page loads up but the items do not display. The same goes for hotmail which works with a fresh install of flash player 7(again inbox displays but nothing happens on clicking e-mail items) and stops working on a soft reset. I am confused as to what is happening here. Sorry if this has been answered, I could not find it. Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to change the user agent as that renders cingular video unusable for me.

Still looking for help on this issue......

I know what you mean. On my "good old" HTC Touch I could do almost anything with Opera, but now I can't with my Pro.
If anybody knows something more about this, please help us. I would really use my online stock-trader application again; now I'm stuck with the mobile version...
BTW, Could it possible be a JAVA-issue? Somewhere oOn JAVA.COM I read that they don't support Windows Mobile anymore?
Edit: just saw the Title: "Javascript in Opera Mobile", so it IS a JAVA-issue I guess...

Ya, I would have said to change the user agent, but you said you don't want to do that. As far as flash I didn't think that Opera supported it. Skyfire does. It does pretty well actually, to the point you can watch you tube videos on the actuall website. not the mobile site. It isn't quite as good of resolution, but you might want to give it a shot.

It's weird that the things I mentioned were wokring fine on opera mobile on my TyTN II, but have problems on the fuze. Like I said after a fresh install of macromedia flash player 7, they seem to work partially but stop working after a soft reset. There is got to be a solution to this. Advanced users help please.

are you talking about this? It works fine on mine.
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I don't know how exactly everything's supposed to work, but some portions don't work for me either, even under ie and firefox (desktop)

I think this is related with some kind of ajax library not fully supported in this current Opera Mobile version. As far as I can see for example at http://www.google.com/ig/i the igoogle gadgets simply don't get their content displayed (maybe a problem with iframe refresh?)
I add it working though with the latest OperaMobile cab version downloaded from Opera's website.
Is there a way to have that one running just like the preinstalled one and not as an alternate browser?

Just found another mobile browser, called "Irisbrowser", that almost supports anything. IMO its better than Opera but hasn't got the nice looks of Opera. But works fine with Flash/JAVA etc.
If any of you still have any problems with Opera, you can install and try the Beta version of Irisbrowser. It's available for free at http://www.irisbrowser.com/

I'm currently running Opera Mobile 9.5.15202 (here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459378) and, at least with http://google.com/ig/i, it just works great!

BAsocial said:
Just found another mobile browser, called "Irisbrowser", that almost supports anything. IMO its better than Opera but hasn't got the nice looks of Opera. But works fine with Flash/JAVA etc.
If any of you still have any problems with Opera, you can install and try the Beta version of Irisbrowser. It's available for free at http://www.irisbrowser.com/
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Have you tried Skyfire?

HTC Fuze Problem, somebody help pls.

I am facing two problems with HTC Fuze (ATT)
1. When i disconnect phone, it automatically connects to EDGE. How to stop this?
2. When i search some of the sites on net, it prompts me with a message
"Please use Internet Explorer Version 5.5 or later".
Now as per WinMo 6.1, IE is latest. How to inform the website about browser capabilities?

I'm assuming you are using the new updated fuze rom.
1) It has been an issue that I have yet to find an answer to, but someone should come up with an explanation and execution of a cab for this at one point or time.
2) The site is confusing your phone's IE as something completely different. Your best bet is either have IE present itself in a different mode (Iris and Opera should be able to do it, so IE should have the same capabilities) or use Opera or Iris as a back up browser.

Verizon User - Opera vs IE

I've had my phone a week now. For some reason, my internet experience on this phone is much worse that when when I had my XV6800 with IE.
I assume that Opera is the default browser on the TP2. I've found that page loading speed and navigation is much, much slower than my prior phone. Everything I read prior to purchasing this phone said Opera was a marked improvement.
Did Verizon do something to hinder Opera? Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
I looked through the 5 pages of posts within this forum for suggestions, but didn't see any. I was not sure if any of the fixes in the general forum would work on the Verizon TP2. Thanks!

WAR_GA said:
I've had my phone a week now. For some reason, my internet experience on this phone is much worse that when when I had my XV6800 with IE.
I assume that Opera is the default browser on the TP2. I've found that page loading speed and navigation is much, much slower than my prior phone. Everything I read prior to purchasing this phone said Opera was a marked improvement.
Did Verizon do something to hinder Opera? Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
I looked through the 5 pages of posts within this forum for suggestions, but didn't see any. I was not sure if any of the fixes in the general forum would work on the Verizon TP2. Thanks!
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If you download Opera Mini it does a better job IMO. I don't know what they did to make Opera so crappy on this phone. I can't wait until it's unlocked so I can get all this garbage off of it.

Which version of Opera is loaded by default by Verizon?

the build shipped with the PT2 is V9.5 16730. I don't think its that bad, I actually find that IE on this is slower than it was on my hacked Vogue and has scrolling issues.
If you don't like the opera shipped with the phone try the beta 9.7 version, it has flash (though a poor implementation IMO) and turbo mode to load pages faster. Skyfire isn't a bad option either, especially if you enjoy hulu and the likes
Anyone know how to get the shipped opera as the default browser for links rather than IE?

[Q] Dolphin Browser HD scrolling

I just emailed Dolphin Browser HD support for a problem I'm having. I figured I might as well post on XDA and see if anyone else has a solution or a decent workaround. I have Googled this problem a bit but have come up empty-handed. Anyways, since I'm lazy/not feeling well, I'll just copy and paste the email I just sent to Dolphin Browser HD support.
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Hi,
I love your browser and it is my default browser on my Nexus S. My phone is NOT rooted and I bought it from Canada's Rogers Wireless. The problem I'm having is that when I go to some sites that as soon as the page for the article finishes loading, I can no longer scroll on that page to actually read the article.
Here's an example article: http://io9.com/5872558/parasitic-flies-turn-bees-into-zombies-before-wiping-them-out-completely
If I copy this URL and post it in Firefox or Opera for Android, the page loads fine and I have no problem scrolling.
If I prevent the page from fully loading, I can scroll. But this usually means pictures and other content won't load (but I'm able to read the article because text always loads first).
If I use the add-on called "Desktop Toggles" to toggle onto desktop mode, the page looks very messed up and I am often not able to read it.
Like I said, I love your browser, but I've had this problem for a long time with previous versions and am just about hitting the breaking point. Is there any way around this problem? Are you working on a fix (as far as I know it's not an uncommon problem)? I'd really rather not switch browsers.
Also, one of the "fixes" that people recommend (I've Googled the problem) is to zoom in or out of the page to enable scrolling. The problem is, for a page such as the example article above, zooming isn't an option as the page is in a mobile format.
I am using Dolphin Browser HD version 7.2.1
Please help/advise.

I've had this problem too, the only fix per se is to reload the page. Sometimes even if it's not a mobile page I can't zoom in/out.

Hello, you can try to use Dolphin Browser HD version 7.3.0 from Android Market. I think the new version will be better. If you also have this problem, you can contact support email: [email protected]

Yeah, I've tried version 7.3.0. I still have the same problem and I emailed support (after they replied to my first email) to tell them so.

Hi, i knew, this thread is pretty Old, but i have exactly the same Problem with my Galaxy Nexus.
I'm in touch with the Support team.
Any advise on this issue?

Uh, i have absolutely no problem with this site and browser combo, jb btw, you sure that ur browser is up to date?