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What to do with the RC30 update window?

I've been watching this forum for a while now and i see the importance of modding the G1, but i'm not quite ready to do it myself. Unfortunatly, now I have gotten the update window on the G1 asking me to RC30.
I think theres at least a few of us in this same situation.
Is there any way I can update to RC30 and still keep the option to go back to RC29 if i want to access root later? Is there a recovery image i can make or an image currently on the G1 i can copy?

OTA update RC30 killed my market downloads

the OTA update ended in an ERROR the screen with the triangle and ! ........ now I can not download anything from the market!!!
anyone else have this issue?

I'm assuming you don't care if you don't have root access, correct?
If that's the case, download this file and copy it to your sd card and name it update.zip, then boot into recovery mode (home+power), and press alt-L, then alt+s to apply the update.
It will re-flash your phone to RC30, and is much less likely to error out.
https://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-kila-ota-116143-prereq.TC4-RC19+RC28+RC29.zip

Can someone shed some light as to why I would need root access? So far everyone is crying over having it, not having it, wanting it and blah blah blah.
I've been reading around forums and stuff since the g1 came out and still have yet to find a valid reason for needing root access.
Tethering is done w/out root access.
Any help in making me jealous I don't have root access?
I have the fully upgraded rc30.

http://www.saurik.com/id/10
*That* is (one reason) why you need root access

JesusFreke said:
I'm assuming you don't care if you don't have root access, correct?
If that's the case, download this file and copy it to your sd card and name it update.zip, then boot into recovery mode (home+power), and press alt-L, then alt+s to apply the update.
It will re-flash your phone to RC30, and is much less likely to error out.
https://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-kila-ota-116143-prereq.TC4-RC19+RC28+RC29.zip
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Thanks JF...... I appreciated it!!!! will do and let you know how it goes ... lol

seems to flash okay but at the end on the reboot I keep getting the Triangle with the !
and keep having the same issues....... time for a new phone??

At the Triangle ! screen can you pull up the text with Alt+L and see what's going on?

its says something about can't access e:/cache/recovery.log or something of that nature... any ideas, I'm about to call Tmobile and ask for a new phone!!!

Don't you think that R30 will be applied to all of their future updates? or check to see if RC30, factory version, is applied before applying anymore?
Also i'm sure the answer is no, if i have updated to 30 is there a "flash" that can be done to bring the phone back to default stage before the RC29 and RC30 updates?
Is root really needed by a basic Joe that has no concept of making programs for Android?
My curious mind wants too know

Don't you think that R30 will be applied to all of their future updates? or check to see if RC30, factory version, is applied before applying anymore?
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All future updates (RC30+) should have all the changes from RC30 incorporated.
Also i'm sure the answer is no, if i have updated to 30 is there a "flash" that can be done to bring the phone back to default stage before the RC29 and RC30 updates?
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For stock OTA firmware, no. Stock firmware G1 can only flash to same or higher version OTA. For G1 with modified firmware, they can be flashed back to RC28 and RC29. It is possible that another security hole will be discovered in the future which lets users temporarily gain root access and install a modified firmware though.
Is root really needed by a basic Joe that has no concept of making programs for Android?
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Root is for the most part only useful for users who are already pretty comfortable with linux and the cli. The iptables tethering and Debian hacks are excellent examples of root's power, but improperly using root can also potentially lead to phone brickage or security compromise, especially with users new to Linux shells.

Update or No?

I have my G1 rooted, but I received a message if I would want to update my android. I don't know if I should or not. Any1 please help. And also if it was to be updated would it still be a rooted phone?

Are you sure your G1 is rooted, cause you shouldn't be getting a OTA update threw your provider. It's up to you weather or not to update your phone, my opinion is that rooting makes the phone as good if not better than the phone's they are coming out with this year. You might be on RC29 or RC27 depending if your in the U.S. or in Europe, so you rooted but I would load a custom rom. You can go over to this forum in Xda, http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448 . I really enjoy cyanogen's mod but you can test them all out based on your needs or wants in a rom. If you need a guide this is a good guide http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod. Hope this helps.

Unrooting the mytouch 3g...

Good afternoon, everyone. I just had my phone rooted with the Hero ROM and it is very laggy and it cripples the whole experience. Is there anyway that I can unroot my phone to where I'll have the stock Android v1.6 and still get OTA updates (I'm on T-Mobile USA)? If this is possible, can someone direct me as to how to get this done w/o paying for someone to do it for me?
Thanks in advance,
xxplosive1984

xxplosive1984 said:
Good afternoon, everyone. I just had my phone rooted with the Hero ROM and it is very laggy and it cripples the whole experience. Is there anyway that I can unroot my phone to where I'll have the stock Android v1.6 and still get OTA updates (I'm on T-Mobile USA)? If this is possible, can someone direct me as to how to get this done w/o paying for someone to do it for me?
Thanks in advance,
xxplosive1984
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If you have modified recovery (by Amon_RA or Cyanogen) - no need to get unrooted. You can simply flash other ROMs (except official - they sucks)

All the info you'll need is in the first post of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
I was able to unroot my mytouch and receive the ota update for 1.6...but I turned around and rooted it again because I realized the stock kinda sucks. If you follow the instructions, this will get you back on the stock 1.5. If you don't receive the ota update to 1.6 right away, you can use google to find the stand alone update pretty easily. I think I ended up finding it on the tmobile forums.

Thanks, fellas! I appreciate it. It should be fun to see if I can do this by myself

Last question, what is a goldcard? is it essential to have one in order to get the stock ROM back?

xxplosive1984 said:
Last question, what is a goldcard? is it essential to have one in order to get the stock ROM back?
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a goldcard is a spare sd card that has been modded to allow the unlocking of phones, usually you do it with windows mobile phones, but you dont have to for the mytouch/magic, you can just One-Click root it if you are still on cupcake.
what i am trying to say is, you dont really need it to get back to stock rom (unroot) you just need to flash a few files from my understanding...i have never wanted to unroot so i wouldnt know but if you need a tutorial, i can give you the link for a perfect one.

I used theunlockr(dot)com to unroot. They have a video and text guide.

New update. NJ4 4.4.4

I'm currently on NI1, and I just had a update notice. It's about 392mb in size. Didn't see anything about any updates so figured I'd post.

Did you take the update? Did it install? If so what is the firmware listed as?
Since it is 392mb I would assume it is an update, rather than a full version increment? Probably still 4.4.2 Let is know

It's almost done downloading now at 81%. I'll post back with a version once installed.

Are you rooted right now? If so it may not install, or try and fail. If you are rooted immediately after it finishes downloading you can copy the update file to your sdcard/external sdcard and upload it to a file sharing site. If it is in fact a newer version of firmware you could make devs happy. If you need to know how/where the update is located I can help you out
BEFORE IT INSTALLS open up a file browser (if rooted possibly) and navigate to \cache\fota\2400258.cfg. Should be the name or something similar. Long press on it and choose copy. Then navigate to you sdcard and paste it where you can find it. Then upload it to a sharing site.

Not rooted on this S4. The update went through and it was updated to NJ1 4.4.4

dankhar said:
Not rooted on this S4. The update went through and it was updated to NJ1 4.4.4
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Thanks, hopefully SOMEONE will pull it soon.

Yeah. Been having random issues with my phone since the previous. All seems to be good now. The update does add a few new programa. Nothing worth using except maybe keeper. But so far so good.
Phones definitely a lot snappier now.!

I would love to see a screenshot of the about to confirm.

There you go.

Update failed on my rooted device
I just tried it, It failed to update and I lost root.

Here is a screen of the few apps it put on once completed. It also added a kids mode app.

If ANYBODY is rooted it most likely WILL FAIL. It is only 300+ MB sobitbis not a complete ROM and most like just has mostly PATCH files inside. I would recommend users that are rooted WAIT until a dev can do something with it, and check it out. Each update has locked our phones down harder.
On that note if ANYONE is rooted and downloads it, do NOT install it. But go to the location I listed above to pull the file from the phone and upload it to a sharing site. Then a dev can look into it first and incorporate it for our rooted phones WITHOUT updating the bootloader

After looking around the forums it looks like Samsung has pushed a few updates to phones ( S4 getting 4.4.4, S3 4.4.2 patch files, and the Note has gotten an update as well). I think these updates are probably going to be the final updates before they phase out old devices and possibly start porting 5.0 on our device (S4). I really wish there wasn't new At&t bloat, but hopefully these are new services that phase out all the old outdated bloat At&t had in the past :good: also to each his own I just never use those apps.
Thanks for posting this, I would've enjoyed this if I hadn't already flashed Goldenfinger and nandroided all my apps over... to lazy to use Safestrap again.
DON'T INSTALL IF YOU'RE ROOTED!

Nice. Wasn't doubting the OP. I see att has updated their support page to reflect the NJ4 update.

RockRatt said:
Are you rooted right now? If so it may not install, or try and fail. If you are rooted immediately after it finishes downloading you can copy the update file to your sdcard/external sdcard and upload it to a file sharing site. If it is in fact a newer version of firmware you could make devs happy. If you need to know how/where the update is located I can help you out
BEFORE IT INSTALLS open up a file browser (if rooted possibly) and navigate to \cache\fota\2400258.cfg. Should be the name or something similar. Long press on it and choose copy. Then navigate to you sdcard and paste it where you can find it. Then upload it to a sharing site.
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If no one else does, I will try when I get to work tomorrow. We have numerous S4's that people traded in for the S5. I can see if I am able to root one and do the update using your instructions. If not I can check to see if onw of our Kiosks can allow me to pull the update. Not sure if they have that one yet for self updating. Will let you know in the AM.

dankhar said:
If no one else does, I will try when I get to work tomorrow. We have numerous S4's that people traded in for the S5. I can see if I am able to root one and do the update using your instructions. If not I can check to see if onw of our Kiosks can allow me to pull the update. Not sure if they have that one yet for self updating. Will let you know in the AM.
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Thanks. Hopefully a dev can create a ROM for us all

Rooted S4
RockRatt said:
Thanks. Hopefully a dev can create a ROM for us all
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Wish I had read this before. I am rooted so it said install interrupted after download. So do I have to unroot and return to stock? I am on NI1 4.4.2. Maybe you or someone can get copy for us to install it by. Let us know what to do if rooted to get the OTA. Thanks

Downloading now. I'll post when done. Rolled back to NB1 before updating so this is a 489MB download.

guut13 said:
Downloading now. I'll post when done. Rolled back to NB1 before updating so this is a 489MB download.
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Guess I will roll back to NB1 also Friday. Got NB1 downloading now. Do I need to wipe or Anything before I flash file in Odin 3.09????