Hi Everyone.
Having exhausted the official avenue of enquiry with Palm, I'm turning to you to help me upgrade my Treo 750V, locked to a Vodafone SIM, to Windows 6.0mobile because a) I'd like the speed, b) I'd like my ringer to work, c) I want the latest.
I got my updater off the Palm site, did I as was told to the letter. Upgrade stalled having copied files / just sat there at the "executing upgrade screen" then announced upgrade failed and advised soft reset and try again. I tried again. And again. And again. I have better things to do.
Contacted Palm support. I swear they didn't read the mail - only answered it. I worked with them though and, eventually, everything went quite for a few days. Today, I had a mail advising me to download another updater (they provided a new serial number. Got it. They also told me to run the recovery tool but, are you listening Palm, MY PHONE DOES NOT STALL! IT JUST DOESN'T GET TO THE END OF THE UPGRADE. YOUR WEBSITE TELLS ME ONLY TO RUN THE RECOVERY TOOL IF THE PHONE STALLS AFTER UPGRADE!!!!
I ran the new updater. Same issue. It copies files, sits there for twenty seconds doing nothing, then fails. Phone gets to the colour band screen but that's it. Game over after that.
I tried your flashing soloution off a FAT32 SD card - that doesn't work for me either. I'm not a dummy, honest - WTF I'm I doing wrong?
Vista Vaio with mobile device manager on the PC which connects and syncs fine. No hack or crap on the 'phone.
Help me please before I sledge my Treo to fragments and get a couple of cans and a bit of wet string!
Upgrade accomplished.
Sorry to be replying to my own post - I've sorted this issue out now. Please see my later post - CHEEIMG issue - Sorted
Any help would be great on this, I have unlocked Treo 750 from cingular, I downloaded the updater from palm with my serial number, and started the update, according to the final screen there was an error during installation, it wanted to start all over again and I could not stay and finish. I disconnected the phone from the pc, it had the screen on it as if it was new to setup, do the touch screen thing, set the time and date etc.
I did all that and the phone seemed to be working fine. I have been using it for a week now and no problems. the only glitch I am having is the bluetooth keeps dropping off, not connecting for my Motorola earpiece. it is hit and miss.
so, I decided that when I had some time I would start the update again and hope that it would overwrite everything, or delete it and then start a entire new install again. surprise, it started but then message said update was not needed and that was it.
any advice on this, I would like to do a total new install again, just thinking there is something that did not complete during the first install.
thanks in advance for any suggestions.
ps. I have not tried a hard reset, as I was told since this is an unlocked phone, I may not get it started again.
several ways to address, but to use what you already have, extract the contents of the updater to a new folder on your desktop, look for payloads.xml. open in notepad and change the following lines to higher numbers as I have:
<revision_no>2.28</revision_no>
<high>3.00</high>
Save the file and close. Now find index.hta and doubleclick - follow the prompts.
if that dosnt work dont be afraid to hard reset. i have an unlocked 750 and ive hard reset twice. its painless, just make sure to back up all your files on a storage card.
Hi. Looks like Treo 750 forums are almost dead nowadays. But if someone can point me out in the right direction I'll really appreciate it.
I have a Treo 750, it came with WM5, I updated it to WM6 around a year ago. I did an official update, the one we were able to get from the Palm website. I've been very unhappy with it lately. Even after some hard resets, the thing is just slow sometimes, and I would just like to try one of those cooked ROM and see if I can get a some performance improvement, small or not.
So, I found this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345748
The thread was posted a long time ago so it might be old. If you can point out to newer and/or better cooked/lite roms, thanks .
So, anyway, first step according to everyone is to install HardSPL. And this is as far as I can go. I'm using CheetahUnlocker.exe found in these boards. I put my treo in bootloader mode, then run CheetahUnlocker. Start step 1. But when it is trying to the update, where you see the progress bar, it goes straight to 100%, and then it fails with an error message 207, saying that the image is corrupted. The Treo itself reboots back to the OS.
I've been reading and reading for hours and I haven't been able to do this. I even follow some steps regarding Vista drivers, but that didn't work either. I tried it in XP at work and it didn't work. I always get the same error. I'm seriously lost and I would really like to try a lite ROM.
Is there any other way I can try to install hard spl? Can it be installed via the SD card method. Also, I could just go ahead and install the cooked rom via the SD card method but I wouldn't like to risk my phone that way.
When I reset my phone with the Media button pressed, first I get the tri-color screen for less than 1 sec, then I get a gray window with blue letters that says "Loading" for a few secs, and then I'm back to the try color screen that says:
"Palm Tr
IPL-0.20
Palm Tr
SPL-0.24.0000"
Any ideas? Please I really need help.
No one? I really need help flashing the HardSPL. I thought about trying to install the hardspl via SD, but I read it wouldn't work. Any ideas?
hi, do you format the SD in FAT32 and 512 bytes in your PC??? you must do this before copy de cheeimg.nbh file to SD.
not sure if this is too late but mine was doing the same thing. I switched to a lower capacity SD card and it worked fine. 2GB or less.
I have the same problem, just the 3 collor screen...nothing else. Any ideas??? Please...
So I recently went to vzw to check if my warranty would cover unresponsive buttons and it does, so they sent me a replacement ozone in the mail. I checked the multicolored screen and saw spl 0.44 and remembered that it couldnt be flashed to hardspl. So I said to myself, "ok, stock windows mobile 6.5 on the ozone can't be so bad" and booted it up. OMG I got used to the 3vo rom sooo much that the phone is crippled with the stock rom. So I want to send the replacement they sent me right back to them and just say f-ck it!! I would rather live with the phone the way it is now.
My question is.... Can I flash a Hardspl to it? has anyone tried and if so did it work. Is there going to be a Hardspl 0.44? Should I try to flash the replacement and if it bricks or fails just send it back? I'm going to send it back anyway if I know I can't install custom roms to it.
Yes, it can be done - apps unlock it first, then flash from 0.44 to .39.hard
Yes, it can be done and I've done it with mine. Read & print out the detailed steps, instructions & review the notes of errors/steps for recovering, etc. - backup your own data/contacts/settings, etc. on the phone - remove the sim card & microSD memory card. I used oem LG usb cable on Windows XPP SP3 desktop & do it without interruption (got a PM story of a ruined flash due to a dog jumping on the link & killed the process, for real ....)
Mine was originally running WM6.1 from VZW, did the HTC official upgrade via the link to WM6.5 and then decided to take a chance with the 3VO flash.
It's very important to do it carefully and get it apps unlocked first.
When that's done successfully & tricolor bootloader confirmed it, pull the battery out for a few moments to reset, and then re-insert & boot it up again before resuming the flash with the unzipped 3VO rom file.
When the HTC ROM Update Utility is finally connected & the phone screen is blank (black) and your pc has finished switching from Moto drivers (ActiveSync) to HTC drivers (re-establish active connections) - and you can see both your "current" version and 3VO version, you are ready to take the plunge & finalize the burn process - took less than 10 minutes at that point.
Then, it's a matter of watching the phone reboot, initialize & preparing the phone for 1st time use and waiting another 5 to 10 minutes, and wow, the 3VO startup & WM6.5 screen will greet you. Then, it's just of customizing the options, restoring the contacts/settings upon putting the sim card (used my owned sim, phone already unlocked) and memory card in the slots.
Good luck.
I tried everything. All directions as closely as possible. I had no errors happen to me on anything and everything flashed as it should have and still no hardspl 0.39. No big deal, I'll just send it back. This phone must be very very locked. Oh well. Thanks for the help.
Where do we find the drivers...after disconnecting. my device comes up as unknown
Good day.......
I am mailing out of real frustration.
I don't know if this is allowed.
I collected a cingular 8125 from a friend in the UK.
I noticed on starting up that there was Tmobile screen first before the windows mobile screen starts. I had no problem with the fone until i realised that i couldnt connect to my local networks GPRS service (who uses a phone that can't browse)
After scanning thru the site, i decided to flash the phone with Crasing's WM6.5 ROM after doing a HardSPL and i could browse and it was the perfect phone apart from the fact that it was real slow and hangs attimes.
It got worse so i got fed up and decided to revert it back to the original ROM and sort the browsing stuff with a network fix that someone on this site had told me.
I reverted the hardSPL and on installing the Tmobile ROM, it brought out an error message, tried with the Cingular ROM same thing.
So i tired reflashing by using a software called Flash Center and it started and stopped at the 1%.
Restarting my phone just shows me the bootloader screen and i have been battling it constantly for 3 weeks but to no avail
I have read almost all forums here, done almost all they ask to do, but nothing.
The only ROM that worked on it is the WIZARD love ROM but it using exactly 21mins to start up. Thot of downloading Faria/Molski WM5 ROM (cos i sorta prefer going back to WM5) but the links for their downloads are dead.
Please help/direct me to where i can see help cos i really need the phone like 2 weeks ago. I am most definitely depressed now.
Thanks.
Check here for all HTC Wizard WM5 OEM shipped ROMS. The one for Cingular is listed in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Wizard_Windows_Mobile_5.0_Shipped_ROMs
You say the phone is a Cingular (G4 DOC version). Does it look like this one (click link ... http://www.brighthand.com/assets/4811.jpg ) with the Cingular logo on top left, etc?
Did you require the HardSPL to be able to flash to new ROM, or did you just use the SIM / CID unlocker using the Wizard Service Tool (note the Wizard Service Tool will only work for G3 DOC type device, not the G4 DOC devices)
You said you also removed the HardSPL. If you removed the HardSPL, then you can only flach the OEM ROMS (i.e., if yours is Cingular, then you can only flash the Cingular Stock ROM ... check link above and use Cingular 2.25 (click here ...
... http://www.4shared.com/file/BJUEhCC9/RUU_Wizard_Cingular_8125_WIZCN.html )
First do a battery pull, replace battery, then start device in bootloader mode (i.e., press and hold Camera button on side, then using the stylus press and release Reset button on same side. Do NOT power up the unit by trying to turn on using the Power button on top). Take note of IPL and SPL version that shows up on Bootloader (3 colour) screen. Then plug in USB and try re-flashing with Cingular OEM ROM.
After successful OEM ROM you can then try HardSPL again and re-flash to other ROMS. There are plenty of cooked WM5 and WM6.1 ROMS out there. The WM6.5 is too much (I think) for these devices. A neat clean simple WM5 or WM6.1 with overclocking works very good.
Regarding your settings for ISO, GPRS, WAP etc. you can look for a Netwrok Wizard cab file, and install ( heres the newest I could find ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121023&d=1223800573). This will install 6 files into the root Windows directory of the phone. Reboot the phone and you will notice the Network Wizard icon show up in the Settings/Connection control panel.
One of the files it installs is called provision.zip. You will want to update this by copying the following to the windows directory overwriting the old one. This contains all the settings for your phone. Once you copy this over, click on the wizard in the Connection Settings control panel, and it should give you options for Country and Cell Phone carrier/provider. Click away and it shoould automatically set up the correct info for WAP, GPRS, ISP, MMS, etc.
Good Luck. Let me know what happens.
WOW
Thanks for the response
I used the HardSPL to flash the new ROM.
I removed the HardSPL and the Olip in my IPL was changed back to the 2.26.0001
I tried the cingular 2.25 ROM but it says it wasn't meant for the device and most times the RUU doesn't recognise the phone. Tried the Tmobile 2.26 same thing.
Also used crossbow WM5 AKU2.3 and AKU3.3 ROMs they worked but fails at 96%
The only ROMs that worked is Wizard Love ROM but it spends about 20mins to get to the part where it asks you to align screen and it doesn't move from there
Thanks for the info on the WM5/WM6 also the network wizard cab file. Really hope that phone works
I'm a pretty desperate guy right now cos i use the phone to trade and money is moving, she(money) is a *****
WOW
Thanks for the response
About the pix you reffered to? Yes thats exactly how my phone looks like
I had used the HardSPL to flash the new ROM.
I removed the HardSPL and the Olip in my IPL was changed back to the 2.26.0001, SPL 2.26.0001
I tried the cingular 2.25 ROM but it says it wasn't meant for the device and most times the RUU doesn't recognise the phone. Tried the Tmobile 2.26 same thing.
Also used crossbow WM5 AKU2.3 and AKU3.3 ROMs they worked but fails at 96%
The only ROMs that worked is Wizard Love ROM but it spends about 20mins to get to the part where it asks you to align screen and it doesn't move from there
Thanks for the info on the WM5/WM6 also the network wizard cab file. Really hope that phone works
I'm a pretty desperate guy right now cos i use the phone to trade and money is moving, she(money) is a *****
PS: My IPL/SPL is 2.26.0001
OK. Good info.
Not sure how you did it but somehow you managed to get the T-Mobile IPL/SPL on it, and yet it still recognizes it is Cingular. For one reason or another one aspect does not let the other load and vice versa. ????? Hhhmmmnnn ????
Here is what I would try.
1) I have attached a zip file called SoftSPL. Inside I have made an image file nk.nbf, which contains ONLY the 2.25.0001 IPL and SPL for the Cingular 8125.
Unzip this folder to your Desktop and then try to run only the "newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe". Remember, start the phone up in bootloader mode, connect via USB then run the "newrom...exe" file. If you get an error right away saying this is not the right update utility for the phone or something like that, then start over ... i.e., disconnect phone, pull battery, start phone in bootloader mode,reconnect via USB, but this second time try using the one called "2.exe". I found sometimes when I flashed ROMS the first one did not work and the second one (2.exe) did for me.
IF this works, once you get the 2.25.0001 IPL and SPL showing on the bootloader screen then start again (pull battery etc. same as above) but then re-flash back to the original Cingular OEM 2.25 ROM that you tried earlier (the original RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe). Try this and let me know how it goes.
If and when you get it back to the original Cingular ROM, if you get to this point, you can then start back like it was when phone was "new". It will still be SIM unlocked so you can use any carriers SIM card but you cannot flash other ROMs.
If you are going to try other ROMs, re-apply the HardSPL, but make sure you only use ROMs that have been cooked, say they are safe for G4 devices and do not have IPL/SPL in them. This means when you have it HardSPL'd you cannot, or should not use other carriers OEM ROM's such as T-Mobile 2.26 or 3.08.
Lastly, if you do like some of the "extra's" offered with WM6 or higher and do not like a slow phone and want to keep it fast like a WM5 ROM, then stick to either WM6.0 or WM6.1, clean (or what they call Vanilla) ROMs.
Good Luck. Give feedback of how it works out for you and pay attention to errors and messages and IPL/SPL etc. for reporting back and I can help you a little more.
Another thanks again.
I really owe you if and when my phone is finally done cos i think i am getting there.
But i successfully changed the IPL/SPL but on flashing the cingular ROM it says the RUU cannot see my phone and once it sees that it says the update utility cannot be used for my phone.
So what next?
Maybe the ROM is not the right one but i ensure it was meant for g4 tho"
Tried MUN-RUU but to no avail
Eagerly waiting your reply.
Thanks again
OK. YES. You are getting there.
You say the phone is now IPL/SPL 2.25.0001. It shows this on the 3 colour bootloader screen?
What did you run in order to flash; did you run the "newromupdateutility_wizard.exe", or "2.exe", or did you need to run the "START-sSPL.exe" to flash th nk.nbf file I made? (I don't think the "START-sSPL.exe" works from the bootloader screen...phone has to be booted to working status).
Here's what is next. I made a new nk.nbf which is the Cingular 2.25 OS, splash screens and 2.25 radio only. I removed the IPL/SPL and the Extended_ROM, and cooked this back to nk.nbf.
Download it from here .....
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/7WhstX82/nk.nbf.html
..... and copy this to the folder you made of the SoftSPL earlier (overwriting the other nk.nbf - you may want to save that as a back up)
Now try flashing this new nk.nbf again as you did for the IPL/SPL.
If it works, then let the phone boot up completely. Check it out. And then you can run the RUU for the original Cingular OEM once the phone is booted to get it back to Cingular OEM state (full IPL/SPL, OS, GSM, Extended_ROM, etc.)
From here (if you make it) then any further flashing of ROMs, you will want to flash G4 safe ROM's, and you can do this using the SoftSPL folder. Copy the nk.nbf from the custom ROM you want to flash into the SoftSPL folder and run the "START-sSPL.exe" with your phone connected (not in bootloader mode, has to be completely started up and recognized by ActiveSync, but you do not need to establish partnership ... just skip/cancel that part and phone will connect to ActiveSync as a "Guest").
Good Luck. Let me know how you make out with this.
Just to answer your questions.
I ran the "newromupdateutility_wizard.exe"
Would follow thy new instruction sire and get back to thee.....lol
Thanks again.
I am not here to say "Yipee, its done'
But rather to say that the universe, cingular and the god of communication might have just conspired against me.
Just when i think i would finally get my phone working after 3 weeks, a 2 yr old kid took my batteries and only God know where that batteries is now.
Tried to buy a new one but all i get is "Wow! that a pretty old uncommon phone here"
I intend to use an ac to dc converter and when i am done i would give you the feedback
Thanks
PS: Just wanted to give you the heads-up
So i found the battery early this a.m.
Flashed the phone with the ROM you uploaded and it was succesful but on starting it i get a green screen and its damn slow and doesn't even pass the spot where you are asked to align screen (i really do think that nothing happen and its still the Wizard Love ROM that its still booting into)
So I am still stuck?
Hmmm....
OK i guess there might be a psych diagnosis for what i am doing (posting excessive replies without any respond)
It just a worried person.
So i kept re-trying to flash the ROM on my phone about 2ce.
Then i noticed on the 2nd time at about 86% the phone seemed to restart itself into bootloader mode about 2-3X, so i thot the battery was running out. Decided to take it out and get it charged.
On plugging the battery back to the phone all i got was a white screen and starting it on bootloader mode OR hard-resetting still gives me that white screen. On removing the battery the phone flashes like once or twice.
Is this the end? The phone has brought an apocalypse on?
Been doing a lot of browsing for clues but nothing tangible yet.
God smiled on me and the phone started
Got the ROM you gave me flashed and its really refreshing to see the Windows Mobile logo again
But i am stuck at the align screen tho'
I tap and nothing happens unless i drag the target and it just moves around and get back to the original spot.
Thats the latest pal.
OOPS. I did not read all .... your posts ... I just answered your post at the end of the last page. Did not see these last 2.
This is a good sign that you get past the initial boot splash screens and make it to the Align Screen ... soft reset the phone again and look at the IPL SPL that shows on the screen. Is it 2.25.0001 or 2.26.0001?
If 2.25.0001 then let the phone boot up to the Align Screen (and if you cannot get past this then just leave it at this point). Plug back into computer and now try to flash Cingular OEM ROM 2.25 that you tried earlier using the stock file.
If this doesn't let you flash for the same reasons as before (i.e., Invalid RUU tool or Not correct operator) then extract the nk.nbf from the Stock Cingular ROM (right click on the Cingular RUU OEM exe and select "Extract here ...".) then copy the nk.nbf over to the Soft SPL folder and use the START-sSPL.exe and flash this way. (you can delete the rest of the files from the Extract process.
Good Luck. Let me know the IPL SPL you get.
I know my posts are getting sickening but i am really desperate.
Got some info about how to bypass the align screen online but couldn't get my phone to boot anymore.
Soft reset/Hard reset/Bootloader mode: All of it just shows a white screen and nothin more.
Any ideas?
PS:The last time i could start the phone the IPL/SPL was 2.25.0001.
Just want to add this cos i just noticed it:
1. Sometimes tapping the Camera button alone puts the phone on (tho' it shows that annoying white screen)
2. On connecting the phone to a PC the PC recognises it even tho' its off and once i put it on and that annoying white screen comes on, the PC gives the same sound as when a USB is detached.
Hope these info would help.
I"m really getting depressed now. Hope's looking dimmer.
OK. I am now suspecting that you may also have a battery problem. How old is the battery. Could be the battery no longer has enough capacity. It may charge but only hold a charge for very short time and voltage may be too low. Maybe enough power to keep some of the electronics "awake" but not enough to drive the LCD.
It is now IPL/SPL 2.25.0001 so it should be able to flash the Cingular OEM ROM. You may want to try a different battery. Other than this, if not a problem with the battery then I think maybe phone itself is coming to an end.
I would try the battery route, making sure you have a good power source, and then try to flash the stock Cingular ROM.
You can still get these batteries on ebay and phone as well. If you are going to spend any money then maybe instead consider a newer model phone on ebay. (if you are patient you can find very good deal ... I got the T-Mo MDA Vario version of the Wizard (WIZA200) for $25 plus shipping, brand new with a carrying case. It was an estate item from a salesman who passed away and phone was not used before he passed on. One man's misfortune, another man's luck. I am now selling this on ebay plus memory card and earphone here ... http://bit.ly/hDHxrW. I have two more on sale at ebay here... http://bit.ly/eV0zZh ... and here ... http://bit.ly/gLIiKh. I am selling 3 and I have upgraded to Touch Pro 2. Go with AT&T version as this can beused world wide on 3G in North America and is quad band GSM for use in rest of world)
WOW
Thanks Bud
I would change the batteries and really don't mind buying another one but the only problem is i am not in USA nor Canada except i give an address in the US to send it to.
PS: Got to the links and it was a bidding process that was over by the time i got there. If anything opens up you can holla at me.
Would get back to you if there are any new developments
WOW
Thanks Bud
I would change the batteries and really don't mind buying another one but the only problem is i am not in USA nor Canada except i give an address in the US to send it to.
PS: Got to the links and it was a bidding process that was over by the time i got there. If anything opens up you can holla at me.
Would get back to you if there are any new developments
Cheap battery on ebay ..
http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Li-ion-Batte...652056?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5d2d297c58
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Battery-HTC-Wiza...163910?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45f7ebb846
Phone
Wizards
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-MDA-Mobile-S...0528835033?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cf50dc5d9