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I'm currently running a cooked wm 6.1 ROM, if I want to upgrade is there a way to backup/restore my non-rom programs and PIM info to a new ROM using sprite or spb? I heard sprite allows you to restore across ROM/devises but I looked through all options and there wasn't one that I could see about only backing up non-rom info. I hope this makes any sense and if anyone has answer I sincerely thank you in advance.
short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.
joel2009 said:
short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.
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thanks for the response, the sdauto thing sounds promising. I did see it in the kitchen but I don't know how it works.
I believe the latest SPB backup has an option for restoring after a ROM change. However I have not fully investigated this.
Mike
Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )
nir36 said:
Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )
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thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again
There's another thread going on here on the same issue.
Even if it has the feature, i would personally not recommend it. Going through the time to reinstall your stuff (use Sashimi) is more worth it imo.
12gage said:
thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again
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SPB Clone, for instance, backs up all program files folder. meaning you will get all system files and all program files directories back after the backup.
there are problems with it tho. if the app tries to update a different rom it gets stuck in most cases and stuff won't work and so.. since it replaces stuff in the new rom with stuff from the old rom.
as said here.. you should install everything again after flashing a new rom...and use backups when working on the same one.
Well just been reading the Flashers Anonymous thread and started to get the hint that you could back up all of your settings rather than just things like contacts w/ PIMbackup.
What do you use and what does it do?
Thanks.
I use sprite backup 6.5.4. Backs up contacts, registry settings, installed programs, preferences...pretty much everything.
telegraph0000 said:
I use sprite backup 6.5.4. Backs up contacts, registry settings, installed programs, preferences...pretty much everything.
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hello , see the bottom of my signature, Sashimi, its awesome, take the time to see the videos he has, awesome app, it will set up just about everything after a new rom flash.
lupe
sorry, was trying to quote mcspikesky, not telegraph000, my bad
i sync with activesync
stuff on sd don't for obvious reasons require backup
and to get back to the org rom if need be is just flashing
that version rom
If you want to take my advise do NOT NEVER EVER backup any thing else than your PIM because every new ROM WILL have different registry settings and custom chef tweaks!!!
You may backup your username and opera settings using Sashimi and Opera Backup but keep everything else out of you backup.
You may also play with installed programs on the SD card. A lot of them do work just by creating a link into the Windows\Start Up\Programs folder.
For my part I DO have a full backup all the time in case a ROM hard resets and you reinstall it but for new ROM flashes please use only PIM backup. Though SPB Backup for example offers a backup/restore mode to restore "after new ROM flash" it DOES NOT WORK if the new ROM has dramatic changes!
Note:
If you have programs which don't work linked really take a look into the Sashimi installer.
Right...I backup a rom to try out a new one...and if I don't like it, I go back to the previous one and restore. Yes...Sashimi rocks...
*Proud member of XDA's flashers anonymous.
Sashimi is a great way to go; it's a little more flexible than UC in my opinion, and I think it's a good idea to import your settings and install your cabs after you've messed around with the new ROM instead of during customization. That way, you know what cabs to install. I've got a small library of some useful reg settings over here, as well as some settings files and what-not that you can install to back up things (I need to update it one of these days). I've also got a step-by-step that does an ok job of backing up manila settings (it's far from perfect). In the very least, you should back up reg keys that hold registration info for software you've bought, like sk tools or mobile shell. It's easy to find the keys, and you really don't want to waste your time re-entering crap like that every time you flash, do you?
I agree, though, you don't want to do a wholesale import of the entire registry, which is what Sprite backup will do for you. That's just crazy. You want to be as selective as possible. I think that even using something like the rom upgrade backup mode with spb backup is a bad idea. There's a good chance you'll over-write some nice performance tweaks cooked in by the chef with old reg settings that don't work as well. You'll also never really know how well the new rom works, because you won't get to use it with the proper settings.
Is there any good software for backing up email account settings? I hate setting them all up after each rom flash.
Backing up email accounts and settings
I use SPB backup, well worth the money, to back up my PIM data and emails.
Didn't miss a single beat over God knows how many flashes.
I just back up prior flashing, flash, restore, done.
I have both Sprite & PIM running scheduled backups every day - but after a flash only use PIM to restore to prevent the registry complications.
Also have a decent UC setup installing apps, editing the registry for me etc, and have made some cab files (or edited install cabs) to register anything which requires it.
I've found that syncing with activsync before running the PIM restore prevents me getting duplicate contacts / meetings, but this might just be because i have a setting wrong!
Never tried Sashimi, i got UC working, and it does everything i need it to!
@ Maxh - i have an XML file which is called in the UC setup which restores all my e-mail accounts and settings (only leaves the password blank for me). UC isnt easy to get sorted first time, so have some patience, and build it up slowly (mine calls 33 cabs & 16 XML files, so if i change anything, i dont have to re-write the whole thing, just edit out the removed / changed file)
people should realize though that
take
joe have a tmobile branded rom version 1.234 that his device came with
joe upgrades to custom blabla rom version 1.567 don't like it and want to go back
joe will not get more back by flashing a backup he made himself of the 1.234 rom
then he will be just flashing the rom 1.234 he can download at tmobile
a rom is a rom and it makes no difference if it was the very bits originally stored on his device
then a rom from the site as long as version and branding is the same
Hello all,
Just a quicky:
What is the best way to backup (and restore) your WM phone?
Imagine that you do an hard reset, and you want to make all the programs, files, etc return to your mobile. Even the same wallpaper
Is this possible?
Cheers and thanks
Luis
Many (Spb Backup etc.. google it) but I prefer save only PIM data because:
1- Make HR to solve SW problems: if I restore all the problems could come back
2- Make HR because changing ROM: some settings couldn't be right for new ROM
D'rath
+1 on Spb Backup.
I used the trial version and then purchased the software.
Everything is backed up on my pc ready to restore if need be.
Really nice software. Easy to use.
I also backed up my files to my internal storage on my Diamond which is all ready to restore if need be.
The need came up the other day when my Diamond did a surprise hard reset after removing a program.
I did a restore from internal storage and everything came back except 6 speed dials which took a couple of minutes to input.
Just to thank you both.
I did tried it and it works great.
Glad to hear it is working for you
Im a newcomer but i know a bit. Do try SPB Clone. I have used the demo version, but the problem in demo version is that you get a pop-up every half an hour reminding you to buy a full version. But otherwise its a great software. Specially for your needs where you even want the same wallpaper.
Which would you recommend for both FULL backups of EVERYTHING?
Which is better in terms of Ease of use?
Ideally It should be able to Backup and restore everything (ROM/OS, Apps, Settings, Contacts, messages etc etc) IN ONE GO While also being able to just restore Apps, Settings etc ONTO AN UPDATED ROM.
Can either Sprite or PSB do both of the above? and if they can both do it all....which is best?
As well as answering the poll, please feel free to post whether or not you have used BOTH apps or not, also pros and cons of each etc.
Thanks.
Neither. Just use PIM backup or activesync. Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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Isn't it the whole point of making the full system backup? Kind of like making ghost images on PC - so once system becomes unstable, we can easily restore everything without the tiresome reinstallation/reconfiguration?
ai6908 said:
Neither. Just use PIM backup or activesync. Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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Same here. Using a mix of PIMBackup, MyPhone, Outlook/WMDC, and Sashimi.
SPB all the way baby!
Not used anything else since i first tried it!
The beauty of it is, it backs up absolutely everything with a few clicks, and you can restore parts of a back up if you don't want a full restore (mainly contacts for me)
Was gobsmacked when it even backed up my opera settings eg. cache on mem card. Haven't found anything it wont backup.
So personally, SPB peeps!
Hope it helps you!
Been using SPB Backup for quite a while.
Being I flash so many ROM's, it saves me a lot of time.
I have also used Sprite, but normally use SPB.
Thanks for the input so far chaps, keep those oppinions coming peeps
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...Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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I think p107r0 hit the nail on the head with what I'm looking for... basically I want Norton Ghost For HD2 lol.... Or that type of FULL backup and restore.
BUT I also want the app to be able to restore everything EXCEPT the OS specific items (for if/when I flash a different ROM).
Sounds like SPB Does it all.
No votes for sprite then?
Early days yet but SPB is sounding like a winner so far (I'm lazy so I really wanted my backups 'centralised rather than having to use PIM backup AND MyPhone AND sashimi etc).
Thanks again peeps...
BTW... tkalli and snowblind: Would you say SPB is easy to use (noob friendly)?
not sure about Sprite, but SPB comes with a small desktop application similar to Ghost Explorer, enabling you to browse through the backup file and selectively extract selected files and/or even registry keys/entries
Resco Backup is very good program for Leo.
i also used it, but of no apparent reason it caused a problem on my phone. when i was changing the lockscreen wallpaper, my phone was freezing, had to take the battery out every time. with spb backup I use, no issues so far
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Resco Backup is very good program for Leo.
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Thanks for all your input peeps.... much appreciated.
I know 27 isnt exactly a good sample size but the votes are so stacked in SPBs favour that it looks like a no-brainer already.
Talking of no-brains...
Can anyone who uses SPB Backup, and changes ROMs frequently, tell me if it is possible to restore a 6.5 backup to a 6.5.x ROM???
Would there be any parts of the backup which could be restored to 6.5.x? all of it? none of it?
I'm using a recent EnergyRom based on 6.5. I love it and have just got it set up how I like it so its time for my first full backup, which is where SPB now comes in.
BUT, if I decide to try out a 6.5.x ROM, will I have to start all over again or can all/part of my 6.5 backup be restored???
Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone who uses SPB Backup, and changes ROMs frequently, tell me if it is possible to restore a 6.5 backup to a 6.5.x ROM???
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both apps seem to have "ROM upgrade mode", not sure though how it works,
unless someone more experienced in the subject gives his view, you could try to check in the manuals (if available online that is)
pim and core cell backup built into newer core cell roms
I've moved from WM to Android (Well, kind of, Haret Android WM), and I am getting used to Android, with the large collection of apps out there, but what is missing is a good reliable backup solution for main content, like Contacts, SMS, calendar and calls.
In Window Mobile, there quite quite few good ones, fromt he free PIM Backup, to SPB Backup or Resco Backup, which were just great, works everytime.
In android i didn't yet find a similar one, I found separate apps for each thing, that doesn't work always.
Is there a good, highly rated, always working, application for android that does a reliable backup that can be restored with no issues on different versions of Android (Native, CM, Sense, WM Ported builds)?
SMS Backup & Restore is what i use for my text messages.
Next to that i ocasionally make a full backup image with ClockworkMod recovery. You should take a look at it. It does require you to root your phone tho
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SMS Backup & Restore is what i use for my text messages.
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That's what i use for sms, reliable and good, but it's only for SMS, i need also to backup the rest.
I found a call log backup app, but later i was unable to restore, it made my android crash.
Next to that i ocasionally make a full backup image with ClockworkMod recovery. You should take a look at it. It does require you to root your phone tho
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seems so whole rom solution, does it work with Android build ported to WinMo devices?
spb backup and nandroid
My Backup Pro. Its not free (unless you can find it for free) and it backs up your data and apps. I used it right before I got my G2 to back up everything on my G1. It saves your back up to the SD card thats in the phone. Then after I have it saved to my SD card I then make a back up of my back up on my laptop.
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spb backup and nandroid
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SPB Backup is for Windows mobile, which i already use, and iirc nandroid is for native android devices, not HD2 running android.
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My Backup Pro. Its not free (unless you can find it for free) and it backs up your data and apps. I used it right before I got my G2 to back up everything on my G1. It saves your back up to the SD card thats in the phone. Then after I have it saved to my SD card I then make a back up of my back up on my laptop.
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This seem a good app, high rating, seems to do what i need and more, i'll give it a try (knowing that it has also a Free 30 day version)......
Thanks
I need a quick app because with my HD2 running Android, i keep changing builds and each time i have to set everything by hand....
ive been cooking and theming android for a year now and mybackup pro will provide the answer you are looking for, then use nandroid for your complete backup...with root of course i prefer titanium+nandroid=FTW, i would be lost w/o my titanium backup....
Hm ofcourse, how could i have forgotten about MyBackup Pro. That does everything you require.
mcbyte_it said:
That's what i use for sms, reliable and good, but it's only for SMS, i need also to backup the rest.
I found a call log backup app, but later i was unable to restore, it made my android crash.
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You could sync your Calendar and Contacts to Google, and then export those from Google ? I realise this doesn't help with call logs though.
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I've moved from WM to Android (Well, kind of, Haret Android WM), and I am getting used to Android, with the large collection of apps out there, but what is missing is a good reliable backup solution for main content, like Contacts, SMS, calendar and calls.
In Window Mobile, there quite quite few good ones, fromt he free PIM Backup, to SPB Backup or Resco Backup, which were just great, works everytime.
In android i didn't yet find a similar one, I found separate apps for each thing, that doesn't work always.
Is there a good, highly rated, always working, application for android that does a reliable backup that can be restored with no issues on different versions of Android (Native, CM, Sense, WM Ported builds)?
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Try Handy Backup (handybackup.net), reliable Android backup solution; back up your phone contacts, messages, logs and other data right away.