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Video call... will it ever be a reality in WM6?

this is a question for all you developers and coockers...
do you think the video call will ever exist in windows mobile 6?
i would really like to use this option but the wm5 is not an option for me.
i have arround 4000 contacts and wm5 is extremly slow to consult and call a contact. on the other hand, wm6 beta is very quick and i'm addicted to it!
i tried to go back to wm5 so i could use the video call but i quitted a few hours later...
so... is there a prognostic on this matter?
thanks

Unless the developers themselves are interested in using video call, it's not gonna happen.
Few people use the video call function... If they don't see the need, then they won't focus on fixing it.
But of course, read my sig.

...few people use mms...few people use power point.... few pwoplw use voip.... ok? is this a good reasons? baaahhhh!!! i'm very very hungry!!!!!

marco3254 said:
i'm very very hungry!!!!!
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lol go eat!
As a developer myself (PC).. I usually just create applications or fix things that I am paid to do. If Im not paid to do it, I just tend to to things that cater to my own needs.
My point is.. if a ROM developer does not need video call, why bother fixing it? Are they being paid to fix it?
Although monetary benefit is not always the best motivator, most people can also get motivated in doing things for self-gratification, if they are being praised, or hearing people say "thanks", "i love you!!!" or "you're my hero!" also works.

thank you both for replying.
i think the question is not to use an aplication much, but the power to use it!
i like having tools that i may or not need, even if i never use them. maybe one day i do need it.
of course this is not the case, i really need the video call!
like mms... i allways forget to configure it because i rarelly send mms messages, however if someone sends me an mms, i like to have the power to receive it.
well... maybe some day a developer puts some effort on this precious tool

i posted a poll in this thread to decide how many people are interested in video call.
i hope the results can influence the rom developers.
please vote fellows!

Hello,i vote for videocall.
Thank
maury

kalimah said:
thank you both for replying.
i think the question is not to use an aplication much, but the power to use it!
i like having tools that i may or not need, even if i never use them. maybe one day i do need it.
of course this is not the case, i really need the video call!
like mms... i allways forget to configure it because i rarelly send mms messages, however if someone sends me an mms, i like to have the power to receive it.
well... maybe some day a developer puts some effort on this precious tool
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i'm with you.... ok.

Those who don't need it, simply don't use it!
For those who don't need it, simply don't use it!
But some of us really need the videocall function and that's the main reason why some people use WM5... Even with an older ROM, we (yes I'm one of those who install back Helmi's WM5 AKU3.5 ROM) are able to explore all Universal’s functions.
There's anyone still working on it? In January videocall issue as faced like a resolving soon problem

i need videocall!

Ehi guys,
yesterday I found that a WM6 ROM is available in Italian from A1KStyle...
They claim that videocall is ready and working...
I don't need it so I haven't tested the ROM... but for who is interested in it...
Bye.

marco.minetti said:
Ehi guys,
yesterday I found that a WM6 ROM is available in Italian from A1KStyle...
They claim that videocall is ready and working...
I don't need it so I haven't tested the ROM... but for who is interested in it...
Bye.
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no no not working... it's an error... i have tested.... not work

W W W Video Callllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

I thought there is a cab file to put in the video call??? I tried it on the last rom and it works but incoming caller ID was being pushed out of the screen hence i uninstalled it..

As i said in an old post: If you are here that means that you BOUGHT an HTC Universal.
Well.. BELIVE ME: Qualcomm don't present the MSM6250...
I PAID IT.. You all paid it!
Even who says that don't use videocall!!!
I wonder WHY you bought a device that makes videocall.. IF YOU DON'T USE IT?!!
Sorry, i can't understand: Maybe they have a lot of money! I don't know!
There are a lot of device much cheaper.. That's because they can't make a videocall!!!

I guess we can even do a paypal donation to the one who will make us able to make a videocall on wm6; for example 10€ each one of us and we can achieve enough money.
But in this case, of course, the application must work.
Anyway WWWWVideocall

elettrozero said:
I guess we can even do a paypal donation
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I agree!!!

DJ Palmis said:
As i said in an old post: If you are here that means that you BOUGHT an HTC Universal.
Well.. BELIVE ME: Qualcomm don't present the MSM6250...
I PAID IT.. You all paid it!
Even who says that don't use videocall!!!
I wonder WHY you bought a device that makes videocall.. IF YOU DON'T USE IT?!!
Sorry, i can't understand: Maybe they have a lot of money! I don't know!
There are a lot of device much cheaper.. That's because they can't make a videocall!!!
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Some of us bought it because it was a good pda with a vga screen, full qwerty keyboard, UMTS (for data) and was at a good price (I got mine for £250 off eBay). Also, point me to a device with the same specs that is cheaper and without video calling... Thats what I thought - there isn't one....
In Australia there is only one carrier that supports video calling and, at the time of purchase, I wasn't with them.
Don't get me wrong - I would love video calling. But if you want it so desperately ask what you can do to help, rather than moaning about it. I do believe that JWright produced a beta for his ROM - see how that went and see if you can improve it.
And, if you aren't a developer:
What are you doing on these forums?????
Register your interest (ie vote in the poll)
Ask, politely, once
Switch back to WM5 if your desperate
Remember: ALL OF THESE ROMS ARE BETAS. Most of them have a lot of issues fixed and I'm sure that the developers are working on Video Calling... just be patient and have faith

DaVince said:
As a developer myself (PC).. I usually just create applications or fix things that I am paid to do. If Im not paid to do it, I just tend to to things that cater to my own needs.
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that's basically how it works

TehPenguin said:
I'm sure that the developers are working on Video Calling...
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Unfortunately.. neither Ivan, Midget, helmi, nor Jwright claims that they are working on video call.

Anyone able to flash a working US/ATT 3G rom

Has anyone been succesfuly at flashing a working US/ATT 3G rom on these released Euro HTC Touch Pro's coming out this week? or do we know if that is not possible because of the hardware? Thanks for helping out a newbie that's anxious to lose a Moto Q9h and pickup an ATT 3G compatible Touch Pro (not willing to buy the crippled ATT Fuze).

THIS QUESTION GETS ASKED 5 TIMES A DAY IT SEEMS. IF YOU HAD USED THE SEARCH FUNCTION YOU WOULD FIND ABOUT 50 RESULTS TELLING YOU THE SAME THING. WHEN IT IS DONE, YOU WILL KNOW ABOUT IT. PAY ATTENTION TO THE HARDSPL THREAD IN RAPHAEL ROM DEVELOPMENT, UNTIL HARDSPL IS OUT NO ONE IS GOING TO FLASH THIS ROM. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
Wow, what a waste of space on this forum.

Black93300ZX said:
THIS QUESTION GETS ASKED 5 TIMES A DAY IT SEEMS. IF YOU HAD USED THE SEARCH FUNCTION YOU WOULD FIND ABOUT 50 RESULTS TELLING YOU THE SAME THING. WHEN IT IS DONE, YOU WILL KNOW ABOUT IT. PAY ATTENTION TO THE HARDSPL THREAD IN RAPHAEL ROM DEVELOPMENT, UNTIL HARDSPL IS OUT NO ONE IS GOING TO FLASH THIS ROM. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
Wow, what a waste of space on this forum.
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Please stop yelling at everyone for not searching. It is far more useful to simply point out that the question has been asked and answered elsewhere, and remind the users of forum policies. I only caution you because if you don't settle down you're gonna end up earning yourself a trip to bannville (note, just word of caution not an official warning as i am nobody of significance here), and you don't want to cut off your best source of information for your device

Black93300ZX said:
THIS QUESTION GETS ASKED 5 TIMES A DAY IT SEEMS. IF YOU HAD USED THE SEARCH FUNCTION YOU WOULD FIND ABOUT 50 RESULTS TELLING YOU THE SAME THING. WHEN IT IS DONE, YOU WILL KNOW ABOUT IT. PAY ATTENTION TO THE HARDSPL THREAD IN RAPHAEL ROM DEVELOPMENT, UNTIL HARDSPL IS OUT NO ONE IS GOING TO FLASH THIS ROM. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
Wow, what a waste of space on this forum.
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Calm the f**k down you idiot. Your arrogance is now getting really pissing off.

anandoc said:
Calm the f**k down you idiot. Your arrogance is now getting really pissing off.
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First of all, that's not even English you just spoke. Second, it's not my arrogance but my pure frustration, I can promise you I never double posted like that when I first came here (not too long ago). Having 10 threads like that floating around is going to be the end of us, as it will someday be impossible to find any useful information in the plethora of repetitiveness. I surely couldn't be a mod, deleting 10 posts just like that every day... Why do we have this google search function and stickies in every forum saying to use it, when nobody does? What a waste.

anandoc said:
Calm the f**k down you idiot. Your arrogance is now getting really pissing off.
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Please read the post directly above you. Two wrongs don't make a right. You can't be offensive just because you were offended by someone else. If you believe the post needs to be reported, then report it, and if you can speak respectfully then reply. If you can't be respectful then you probably should just skip over the reply, or quote buttons.

Black, Everyone is VERY excited about this device and the posibility of it being flashed with the at&t rom so the US gents can get the 3g also. We all want touch pro's with 3g in the states like you so we can all live in harmony!
Hey, did yours come with a case? Wondering what the US version will come with. I bet it will be like the at&t version of the tilt and NOT include a case. Has anyone seen the case the HTC provides? I looks like garbage! I can't even beleive that HTC would release such a great device with such a poor case.

Raspster said:
Black, Everyone is VERY excited about this device and the posibility of it being flashed with the at&t rom so the US gents can get the 3g also. We all want touch pro's with 3g in the states like you so we can all live in harmoney!
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yes...exactly...except i spell it harmony j/k lol

LOL, I did have an order on the touch pro but cancelled it. Now that all the reviews are coming in and the youtube's, my fingers are iching to hit the purchase key again! I have a good feeling about the hard spl and the at&t rom flashing. I hope it does work to enable 3g for all our sakes!

Raspster said:
Black, Everyone is VERY excited about this device and the posibility of it being flashed with the at&t rom so the US gents can get the 3g also. We all want touch pro's with 3g in the states like you so we can all live in harmony!
Hey, did yours come with a case? Wondering what the US version will come with. I bet it will be like the at&t version of the tilt and NOT include a case. Has anyone seen the case the HTC provides? I looks like garbage! I can't even beleive that HTC would release such a great device with such a poor case.
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I have to agree. Although i also agree with Black. I'm actually one of those waiting for this hardspl release and a confirmation of 3g in the US and see 10 posts a day. I don't get that excited about it though :-D I just love to see so much excitement for this phone.

Black93300zx, Final Warning. Be nice or be banned.
Everyone else, I will not put up with foul language.
We all know how frustrating double posting is. But Report it to a mod. This is not anarchy.
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New person saying hi and asking some Q's

Hi everyone xx
I've been lurking on the forum for a couple of weeks now and slowly getting the hang of things however I have a few questions.
I have an XDA Zest and I'm just confused of all the abbreviations and jargon on here that I'm not sure what apps and mods I can use.
I've figured out I can only go for things that are VGA and compatible with WM, but other than that I just feel stupid
I am quite techie minded and do learn quickly and have managed to do little things on my phone but 3 questions off the top of my head.
Can someone recommend a free MP3/media player for my phone, WMP is pants and has no way to set the bass or anything. Putting the word music into the search here brings up loads! I tried one called flip or something like that that was Iphone-ish but that was on a trial and I wasn't that keen on it.
I love changing themes on my phone but on this handset it just seems like such a minefield. I saw a lovely HTC high gloss one (I think) and I was just baffled by it all. Is there a dummies guide somewhere?
Also, I am constantly hitting the send or menu button when writing a text, is there an easy way to move these buttons?
Many thanks xx

Media player, there's two spring to mind, S2P and TCPMP. Search and ye shall find.

Many thanks. I had a look at TCPMP earlier but the site I was on said it was discontinued and now being charged for, I think I might have found the correct one.
Afterthought/ Maybe not, it keeps saying I have to send the crash.txt to the developers. After a search on here it seems it was a common thing, I'll carry on looking.
EDIT: I've got it working, I found a different CAB file someone posted and that one works!

at least you used the search ur in minority there
lol

Unfortunately the Zest is not an HTC phone, so you will not find any support for it here. It is Windows Mobile so you can use generic WM apps. The interface I believe is Spb Mobile Shell, so you can search for tweaks for that.

jayjay8585 said:
at least you used the search ur in minority there
lol
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lol as an avid forum user I realise how annoying it is.
Unfortunately the Zest is not an HTC phone, so you will not find any support for it here. It is Windows Mobile so you can use generic WM apps. The interface I believe is Spb Mobile Shell, so you can search for tweaks for that.
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Yes I did realise there wouldn't be much support but I have found so much information on here as it is and little bits and bats. I found a fab SIP on here last night which I love. I'm just not sure as to what I can and can't use, is it just basically check its VGA and WM compatible and some trial and error?

wanty said:
lol as an avid forum user I realise how annoying it is.
Yes I did realise there wouldn't be much support but I have found so much information on here as it is and little bits and bats. I found a fab SIP on here last night which I love. I'm just not sure as to what I can and can't use, is it just basically check its VGA and WM compatible and some trial and error?
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Yes basically that"s it

Great stuff, I'll be back for help when I've broke it then
Many thanks xx

What is the fundamental difference between Hero and the G1 OS?

There are so many roms around there an one thing I cannot find is at a fundamental level,(user level) what do we gain out of using the hero rom rather than the regular g1 OS?
Is there a killer app that only works on hero? is the hero interface, better? majorly different? would like to know, please?

Could you really not find it, or did you not look? This isn't even remotely close to being in the correct section either..
To sum it up however, HTC's "Sense UI" that is implemented on HERO is essentially a home replacement (like openhome, ahome, etc...). It features many graphical enhancements as well as widgets that are not available on the stock android builds.

This link will tell you everything you need to know:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/epic fail/scooters61/EpicFail.jpg

Its mostly cosmetic. Everything in HERO looks better than standard ota 1.5 android. I weighed the options of running HERO ROM or Cyanogen and HERO came out on top. I just love the way HERO looks. I love it so much, that I gave up use of my blue tooth headset.
.....the only thing I can suggest is to do some research on a "proper" installation of a HERO ROM and experience it for yourself.

toxtrepla:
to the first point, yes I looked, there is no site, thread that just has that simple explanation. I'm sure it's there, it's just buried.
Point 2. yeah, your right. my thinking was this is a forum full of hero and non-hero roms, so it would be good here, but really, I could have put it elsewhere. Thank you very much for the info.
miketaylor00:
Thanks for the pic.
SG_Shadow:
Thanks for the info. I will have to check it out. as soon as I get time to clean out my sdcard.
thanks all again.

If it were only the eye candy.... What sets Hero apart is the way it integrates your social network in one place. Right now there's support for Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Plurk, Picassa, Google, and your Exchange contacts. All of those can be merged, so say, if your friend Sally from work ([email protected]) has a twitter and facebook account, you can exchange tweets quickly and the phone will notify you they're from Sally. Also, you're out and trying to decide which pair of shoes you should get for Saturday night's ball, and you can't decide, you snap a quick picture, uploaded to your facebook (right from the camera app) and then tweet Sally to help you choose, be quick, though, your wife's almost back

@rkimbal45
What the first guy meant was you didn't look to see they have a Q&A section for what you asked, which was a question... From my point of view you have no investigative skills which led you to asking this question and not being able to find the proper place to ask it.... but hey who really post their questions in the Q&A now-a-dayz?
PS. Q&A=Questions and Answers

miketaylor00 said:
This link will tell you everything you need to know:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/epic fail/scooters61/EpicFail.jpg
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He r winnAR!

Slightly popular way of findin answers
rkimbal45 said:
There are so many roms around there an one thing I cannot find is at a fundamental level,(user level) what do we gain out of using the hero rom rather than the regular g1 OS?
Is there a killer app that only works on hero? is the hero interface, better? majorly different? would like to know, please?
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Theres an obscure little search engine website that only a few people use so i can see how you may not of searched for your answer there yet, its called !!!!!!! GOOGLE !!!!!!!.............
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YouTube Tab? ...

Is there any YouTube Tab out there? I have searched and cannot find one....any ideas?
thanks in advance...

I think this would be nice, however I have never seen anything about a stand alone YouTube Tab. I wonder if someone could write the program to add the tab like the guy did for the Facebook Tab.

I searched for some info on how to make a custom tab, but I cannot find anything related to developing a tab.... any ideas?

erebusting said:
Is there any YouTube Tab out there? I have searched and cannot find one....any ideas?
thanks in advance...
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Im running youtube 2.6, runs well but its cooked into my rom so i dont have the cab.
I do have another one though, but havent tried it.

rexboy said:
Im running youtube 2.6, runs well but its cooked into my rom so i dont have the cab.
I do have another one though, but havent tried it.
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hey thanks, but that is not what I was talking about....I want to make/find a tab for youtube (like the tabs on the slider, you know-the home, message, mail, internet, weather, settings ...etc,etc.. tabs?)...I also have youtube 2.6 BTW...
so I hope someone can help me out here, I am willing to put in work -the only problem is I cannot find the resources ?.....

+1 great idea

I think the guy working on the facebook tab found that HTC had done alot of the development work themselves and had hidden it away. Atleast thats how it reads. So maybe this isnt such an easy thing to do

erebusting said:
hey thanks, but that is not what I was talking about....I want to make/find a tab for youtube (like the tabs on the slider, you know-the home, message, mail, internet, weather, settings ...etc,etc.. tabs?)...I also have youtube 2.6 BTW...
so I hope someone can help me out here, I am willing to put in work -the only problem is I cannot find the resources ?.....
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Ah sorry mate, misunderstood. Like a FB thread going around, ive read this is not such a simple thing to do either, good luck.
Good idea though, id trade it for the twitter tab anyday of the week lol

rexboy said:
Ah sorry mate, misunderstood. Like a FB thread going around, ive read this is not such a simple thing to do either, good luck.
Good idea though, id trade it for the twitter tab anyday of the week lol
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Same here buddy, would be nice but doubt we'll se it happen any time soon..

yeah, I agree that it does not seem easy...seems like too much b$ just for something so simple....i dont know, I am not a newbie to programming, but this is like a whole other world of programming (or w/e you will call it)...
in theory: I would need to put a place holder for a new tab OR take an existing one and change it... have that tab point to/open up the YouTube executable and thats it!...
in practice (it seems): I would have to recompile/decompile/edit multiple manila files...? which even that is sounding much more easier than actual 'practice' of this theory...
any ideas?

this is such a great idea it would be very nice if they could figure this one out
it'll be even better if the dev's could skin the YouTube app a little so that it really intergete in sense
i really hope somewone is workingon this
sorry for my english hope ya'll understand my idea
greetz

this is a very difficult project for a very small gain.... to be honest - it may not be done at all, I would very much like to do this, but I think I should put my time towards something more significant...

erebusting said:
this is a very difficult project for a very small gain.... to be honest - it may not be done at all, I would very much like to do this, but I think I should put my time towards something more significant...
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i think it would be very nice if u could figure this out i can help a little
even tough i don't understand much developing
but i could help and it'll be a learning proccess for me to
sorry for my english

maybe I will make it a summer project... most likely I will find something more substantial to work on though, but definitely something to show on here and share...

I remember having a youtube tab my HTC wing in manila 2D there wae also a google maps tab (That was coo) tho I thought there would be those tabs on the HD2 when i bought one (been on android for while)

tuppaacc said:
I remember having a youtube tab my HTC wing in manila 2D there wae also a google maps tab (That was coo) tho I thought there would be those tabs on the HD2 when i bought one (been on android for while)
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thats some good info to know -thanks...maybe I (or someone, or a group of us) could port it over some way...