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Well, for those that have owned both, think it's worth the upgrade/change from a tilt to a fuze?
I only got Fuze because I broke my Tilt. If Tilt was still working I don't think I would have upgraded for $500 (full price since I did not use my upgrade)
If there was a Black Friday sale and Fuze was $150~$200, then I would have upgraded even if I had Titl just for the VGA screen.
With the VGA screen I can use LogMeIn and access servers and computers I manage from anywhere.
It was possible with QVGA as well but it was very hard to get around the screen.
Same boat. I lost my Tilt 2 weeks ago and needed a new phone. I only paid 350 because I was due for a new contract.
I like the Fuze but there are a few items I liked on my Tilt.
1. I miss all the buttons. I am slowly getting used to TouchFlo but I REALLY used Start menu, cammera and Email buttons a lot.
2. I keep trying to Tilt my Fuze I guess I miss that too.
3. Biggest one for me - The Fuze REALLY does attract finger prints. I have to keep a silk cloth with me at all times.
4. Having problems with tethering. I think I have it resolved though.
5. Windows Live doesn't seem to work very well and I use it for hotmail.
Now- Things that I like-
1. Form factor is great!
2. VGA screen is great.
3. Software that comes bundled is pretty decent.
4. Flush screen does make touch more usefull
5. BIGGEST item for me is you can now add device as mass storage and copy files (mp3s) over quickly without using active synch.
6. The FM radio (once enabled) is pretty cool. Pretty good quality.
In my opinion it is a great phone, I like it more every day. I will admit the first few hours I wish I had purchased another Tilt. Slowly, I am convinced I made the right decision to upgrade.
From a dev/hardware point of view:
the Good:
a high dpi, true transflective screen (instead of Kaiser's crappy transmissive) that puts it on par with my Sony VAIO x-brite screen
auto-backlight so you don't have to walk outside and then fumble around a washed out screen to find the brightness controls
backlight nicely fades in and out
working OpenGL-ES drivers that survives suspend
flush screen that makes touch-interface easier to use
higher feedback into the earpiece during phone calls so you can hear how loud you're speaking
storage-mode usb (and it's usb 2.0 high-speed too instead of the fake usb 2.0 full-speed of Kaiser) with menu selection much like SonyEricsson z750
volume setting button that works more smoothly
much nicer (iPhone-like) phone UI
magnetic stylus holder so it's harder to fling/lose it
the Bad:
missing a lot of useful controls such as camera, scroll-wheel, windows key
smart-touch (circle scrolling) doesn't work with most apps, nor even the OS menus so gimmicky
smart-touch zooming with Opera is pretty bad because zoom resolves too slowly
auto-rotation of screen by accelerometer gimmicky and can't be disabled esp if you want to read while lying down
Java (jbed) still BROKEN (since the WM6.1 update) where it gets confused if it's the active app or not and you have to bounce between Today and Java before java starts responding to touch/buttons again
D3D is still shipped with illegal and broken test-rig driver. Have to apply d3d_ati.dll patch to get it decently working (affects Opera since it uses DirectDraw).
still ships with .NETCF 2.0. Have to update to 3.5 and apply .net configurator before Schap's Advanced Config 3.3 will work.
HSDPA forced off. Need a new variation of KaiserSimFix to fix it so it survives soft-reset.
keyboard is a bit cramped compared to Kaiser, but you got a lot more fn-less keys
auto-backlight doesn't range down to the lowest backlight level so too bright in a dark room
GPS is broken is some way (without fiddling with TeleNav) so that AGPS just causes multiple gps-disconnects, and agps-less locks take something like 2-3 minutes longer than Kaiser
finger-print magnet
eats a lot more ram (90M+B resident instead of Kaiser's 40MB+)
24 resident apps running all the time and very close to the 32 limit of wince
This is basically the "Kaiser" that should've been released last year instead of that huge foobar the Kaiser is.
I will have mine within a few hours. It got delivered to my door at noon and I am excited to see what it has in store..... I will also try and comment on the two.
I'm not sold yet. I got the Fuze on Monday, I agree with you and espically the fingerpring magnet. WEW... I'm now playing around with my Tilt and trying to decide. I have so many acces. for my Tilt. And I don't see that much of a difference between the 2 of them as far as programs. I love the build of the Tilt, far better then the Fuze, and I still have 8 months on my warranty for the Tilt, Just got in July. And using TF2 it's pretty much the same. Well decide.
For me, I had a custom rom on the Tilt w/ TF2D and I have a custom rom on the Fuze w/ TF3D. The Fuze is much smoother interface, faster, the eye candy is amusing, programs launch faster.
Also, contrary to what I've been reading, my GPS locks on extremely fast with Google Maps but will not work at all with Live Search. In GM it locks in in under 5 seconds, on like 9 satellites.
Oh yea, and my Tilt broke but I was eligible for an upgrade so I bought another one on 10/17, and returned it within my 30 days and paid the $50 difference to get the Fuze.
My GPS seems to lock pretty quick as well with google maps but have not tried live. I just recently ordered a Zagg invisible shield which should solve the fingerprint issue. But overall it's seems faster then my tilt all around and am pretty happy I switched although I paid full price since I wasted my upgrade on an iPhone.
I got my Fuze for $300, and sold my Tilt for $250, so it was a no brainer. So far, I have many more pros than cons. The screen resolution alone was worth the upgrade.
Speed and response seem about the same as my tilt (I had a hyperdragon rom w/manilla)
Touchflo 3D is pretty spiffy, but not that much better than manilla 2d on the tilt. I like that the Fuze is smaller, and feels much more sturdy, also the screen is flush so no more trapped dirt around the screen edges. Everyone cries about the fingerprints, but you can easily wipe the phone off, its not that big of deal.
I'm still getting used to the new keyboard, but I do like it better.
The fact that there are less buttons on the Fuze is a bummer, but not a deal breaker. I do actually miss the screen tilt, and the solid back plate. If your typing on the keyboard while the phone is laying on a table it tends to rock back and forth.
I had no problems using the GPS with Live search. The fact that there is a ton of ATT crapware on the phone can be fixed with a ROM flash later on.
The G-sensor is fun to play with, but so far really not very usefull.
I haven't tried much testing yet, but so far video playback seems much better.
Overall I would say I'm happy I got the Fuze, and I don't miss my Tilt.
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From a dev/hardware point of view:
D3D is still shipped with illegal and broken test-rig driver. Have to apply d3d_ati.dll patch to get it decently working (affects Opera since it uses DirectDraw).
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I've tried that patch and I see no diference in Opera/OS landscape mode. Same poor redraw (videos).
Just got my fuze... Looks great, except I miss the "tilt" and scroll wheel of the tilt. But the advantages of the fuze are too great and many (Besides, may still get the Omnia with the vga screen from Korea.). PLUS, after only 1 years worth of use, the fake chrome on the buttons is wearing off. Or else I'd get a new tilt for my daughter-- she loves the tilting screen, and doesn't care about the "extras".
So after a full day of use I would agree that the Fuze is a better phone. I still have the crappy AT&T bloatware on it still, but like the performance over the tilt. The graphics are superior, and has more opportunity than the tilt. My only issues(that will take time to get used to):
-navigation buttons
-volume up/down on the side. When you try to increase it, it tries to slide the keyboard open.
-Fingerprint magnet, but just wipe it off on my shirt.
Other than those small issues, this phone is far superior in my mind and is worth the upgrade.
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Well, for those that have owned both, think it's worth the upgrade/change from a tilt to a fuze?
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I strongly suggest the upgrade.. It's better to get used to the Fuze before other similar HTC Phones come out. (YES, THERE IS LEARNING CURVE.. I've owned my Fuze for 3 days now and I'm so glad i got rid of it)
I'm not sure about you, but the biggest factor that killed it for me on the Tilt was it's vga video card
The Fuze's VGA is Excellent.. It's like it has a mini HD 2400 XT video card in it.. It's very crisp and something I did not expect. Touch Flo is awesome, better than an IPhone 3G's touch screen. Get it as soon as possible
Come on, the Fuze touchscreen or any other is not better than the iphone. I've tried my share of touchscreens. Apple has that nailed. That being said I think the Fuze is a nice upgrade over the Tilt.
The screen is nice but so far I'm not wow-ed enough by it to convince me to keep the Fuze over the Tilt.
I miss the easier to use slideout keyboard of the Tilt. The Fuze buttons are smaller and placed strangely...why put the FN immediately to the left of the A? Stupid.
No soft keys. No camera key. Had to remap the Home button to NOT go to the today screen but instead do Windows Start. Hated the bloatware. Hate TouchFlo. Immediately removed all that crap to make the Fuze more useable. Don't like Opera and with the AT&T customizations, it defaults to Opera over PIE...yuck.
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Come on, the Fuze touchscreen or any other is not better than the iphone. I've tried my share of touchscreens. Apple has that nailed. That being said I think the Fuze is a nice upgrade over the Tilt.
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Totally agree, I've had the Iphone and my Partner has the 3G Iphone, can't touch the Touch Screen on the Iphone, shame it's more for fun then work. LOL
sp44 said:
Come on, the Fuze touchscreen or any other is not better than the iphone. I've tried my share of touchscreens. Apple has that nailed. That being said I think the Fuze is a nice upgrade over the Tilt.
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I don't miss my iPhone touchscreen at all. The multi-touch functionality of the iPhone screen was nice but the only thing I ever used it for was zooming in and out of webpages and the scrollwheel of the Fuze is a nice replacement for that functionality.
And I'm frequently using my phone outside in cold weather so being able to use the touchscreen with gloves on and/or use a stylus makes the Fuze screen superior IMO. Plus, with the Fuze I can edit the registry to adjsut the touch sensitivity and I don't think you can do that with the iPhone.
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The screen is nice but so far I'm not wow-ed enough by it to convince me to keep the Fuze over the Tilt.
I miss the easier to use slideout keyboard of the Tilt. The Fuze buttons are smaller and placed strangely...why put the FN immediately to the left of the A? Stupid.
No soft keys. No camera key. Had to remap the Home button to NOT go to the today screen but instead do Windows Start. Hated the bloatware. Hate TouchFlo. Immediately removed all that crap to make the Fuze more useable. Don't like Opera and with the AT&T customizations, it defaults to Opera over PIE...yuck.
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Totally agree. I've had mine since Monday, and have finally decided just not good enough over the Tilt, espically as I have 8 months left on the warranty and all the asscs I have brought for it.. I've gotten to really enjoy TF2 and I feel the Fuze is not as fast as the Tilt. Just my opion. There's a phone and mine is the Tilt. After all the sleep I lost over the Fuze and now I'm taking it back. LOL well unless someone wants it for 300.00.
Beachboyde
trjons said:
The screen is nice but so far I'm not wow-ed enough by it to convince me to keep the Fuze over the Tilt.
I miss the easier to use slideout keyboard of the Tilt. The Fuze buttons are smaller and placed strangely...why put the FN immediately to the left of the A? Stupid.
No soft keys. No camera key. Had to remap the Home button to NOT go to the today screen but instead do Windows Start. Hated the bloatware. Hate TouchFlo. Immediately removed all that crap to make the Fuze more useable. Don't like Opera and with the AT&T customizations, it defaults to Opera over PIE...yuck.
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Yikes, sounds like someone needs an old Palm device J/k, to each their own.
I have had the Fuze for a half day and want to put it through it's 30 days before deciding but so far I love it. Can't really judge battery life cause it hasn't left my had for about 5 hours and is down to 30% but in a normal day my Tilt never saw that usage either so we'll see.
beachboyde
i'll buy if you'll ship it to Europe
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a new FUZE. Before I do, I was hoping some current owners could answer a few questions for me. I'm not a newbie to smart phones or WinMo, so I do understand some of the limitations of the device. My last phone wasn't a smart phone and I sorely miss not having it.
I was at the local AT&T shop to play with the FUZE in person, and honestly I wasn't at all impressed with the speed or the interface.
The sensitivity of touch was pretty bad, and I really had to push on the screen for it to register my finger. I've read on these boards that the sensitivity can be changed, so my question is, Can it be changed enough to be usable? It was pretty bad in the showroom.
The lag of the device was totally unacceptable to me. I would often not know if a key-press or screen gesture actually worked, and found myself hitting the key multiple times, only to realize it had registered the first time, but was taking forever to respond. I've read here that flashing the ROM and other tweaks improve the lag time, but does it improve it enough? Is there any lag time after using a cooked ROM? I understand that things may lag on occasion, but if there is a lag for most functions, I don't think I could put up with it too long.
Web browsing was a test of patience to say the least. It took a very long time for any page to load, and when it did load, it seemed to render in chunks very slowly. I was often confused if the page was even fully loaded after a minute or two. Is this experience to be expected, or can it be it be fixed?
I may just be confused about the contacts section. Do you have to scroll through each individual contact to get to the one you want? I have a couple hundred contacts in my phone now, and if I need to get to someone who starts with "N", that would take quite a while. I'm sure there is a better way, and I would just need to find out how to do it, but I wanted to ask first, as this could be a huge deal breaker for me.
It took me a while to find the call history on the phone. It seems like it's buried pretty deep. Is there anyway to modify the Touchflo3d icons to point to items I frequently use? I mean really I don't need the AT&T icon there at all, since I'll never use any of those features. I'd much rather have my call history available from the menu. Is this even possible?
I've read a lot of comments about the D-pad. I'm a gamer when on the road, so I need to make sure this phone will be able to handle my gaming needs. I didn't have the opportunity to try any games on it. Is the D-pad really an issue, and if it is, has there been a workaround?
I love the idea of having a touch screen. I need a phone that offers easy to use messaging and email features. I want simple access to my contacts, and easy to use phone functions. I also want a good web browsing experience, access to my MP3 files, and video files, as well as a decent gaming platform. Oh and I do like to tweak my toys. Is this the phone for me, or should I be looking at something different?
I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer any of these questions.
i have a fuze and love it alot. the sensitivity on the touch screen was bad until you change the registry key that controls it and of course a good screen calibration. its set for such a heavy touch. i changed it to ultrasensitive and its like using an iphone now. there are alot of registry keys to increase the performance. its real easy with diamond tf3d config app. best choice is to flash to a new rom though. the oem rom is junked up with so much crap. diamond tf3d conifig will help you change touch flo 3d to your liking. as far as a gaming device the dpad is a difficult thing to use tbh. and with the graphics drivers still not working right its not a good gaming device. in every other context, it is a good phone. it just takes some work to get it there.
Thanks for the input TJOC.
How is the FUZE as a phone? I mean, how easy is it to access your contacts, voice mail, or just make a call?
Best phone I have had. Most of what you point out in your message can be adjusted automatically or via a tweak or registry change. You would like this flexibility on something you own.
its not bad. the call history, calendar, voicemail (only if you have some messages) and contacts are right on the home tab. you can actually change the softkeys on the home tab to do other actions for you too. theres also one tab to the right called people which is a neat flippy interface if you assign pictures. when i go to my people tab it actually crashes touch flo 3d. i have to figure out what i did to make it do that.
i do have to say that for an htc phone it is the best for being a phone. ive used quite a few htc phones and they always have issues like bad signal, and most notably the volume and call quality have been pretty awful. but on the fuze its loud and clear.
that said its still not a phone for everyone. if you use speakerphone alot, then this may not be the phone for you. and alot of people cant handle windows mobile (i always say wm is not for beginners hehe). i would say try out the phone. att will let you take it back if you dont like it. and i wont call you crazy if you say you dont.
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that said its still not a phone for everyone. if you use speakerphone alot, then this may not be the phone for you. and alot of people cant handle windows mobile (i always say wm is not for beginners hehe). i would say try out the phone. att will let you take it back if you dont like it. and i wont call you crazy if you say you dont.
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Speaker phone not too much an issue for me. I'm familiar with WinMo, so that won't be a problem either, heck I still use my Dell Axim
I think I'm going to take your advice, and just grab one. If I'm not happy I'll exchange it for a Bold or something.
I didnt like the Fuze stock as well but after tweaking it i love it, i would hard reset and then reset it right before it install all the att stuff back, when you get the phone and reinstall touchflo from the software column for raphael. that alone would make your device alot faster and then you can tweak it some mroe to make it even faster...since its your first Winmo phone read up on flashing and other themes or today screen...you can use other UI instead of TF3D just find one that you like. Cheers report back when you get the Fuze.
mfarlo,
I just got my Fuze a few days ago, and am loving it. I had a Cingular 8525 that I modified with new ROMs from this site. I'm looking forward to upgrading my Fuze after I see how it does out of the box.
I got a great deal going through myself when purchasing it. If you're interested in checking out what I can do for you, please let me know.
Joe
i too was unhappy with the fuze when i tested it out in the store, but after reflashing RRE 4.4.5 custom rom this phone is amazing, the signal strength is awesome, call quality is crystal clear for me, and the phone is lightning quick. if you buy a fuze play with it for a few days while you are reading up on flashing a new rom as it is a must with this phone, its like night and day. the phone has been out for a while now and the roms on this site keep getting better and better, you will not be dissapointed if you buy it.
From my experience with 4 Fuze's...Touchscreen sensitivity to a finger is adequate, although the stylus takes considerable pressure, especially at the edges of the screen. 2 of the Fuze's were slightly more sensitive, and two were slightly less, but none have the sensitivity of the older devices with recessed screens.
Sensitivity aside, you have to rely on the responsiveness of everything else, and that sucks for the most part. Performance "tweaks" and screen sensitivity "tweaks", either done manually with a registry editor, or with a program like AdvancedConfig do absolutely nothing. I've spent many hours comparing back and forth and didn't notice a single discernable difference. The device is sluggish no matter what you do to it (aside from flashing ROM's which i'm not doing). Try operating the phone with a song playing in the TouchFlo music player and it will be an exercise of patience. Disabling TouchFlo does speed things up, but that's a poor fix if part of the reason you purchased a Fuze was for TouchFlo (which I did). I'm perplexed by the folks who claim such a speedy device.
The Dpad is absolute garbage. Up/down work fine, left/right works about 80% of the time if you press in a very specific spot to the outside of the touch sensitive ring by a few millimeters. Funny, it takes extreme accuracy to scroll right or left, but 50% of the time when I try to hang up a call by pressing in the extreme lower right corner, it jumps out to the main menu and starts scrolling right with the call still in progress. I've had quite a few "I want to throw the phone as hard as possible" moments with that issue. The quality of the Dpad has varied from device to device, but none of them were anywhere near good. I can't imagine using it for gaming.
Opera loads webpages pretty quick for me. Unfortunately anything that requires touchscreen input like zooming or selecting links doesn't work so well. Generally I double tap 2-3 times before it zooms in or out. I'm not sure if it's a system issue, or a touchscreen problem. Zooming with the touch ring works well, but unfortunately, for me, the page won't reformat and the text won't wrap using the ring. Trying to zoom with the ring to make a link bigger so that it's clickable, results in the page moving and intermittent reloading of the page, then the link moves out of view. The problem is more common on certain pages and less on others.
Reception has been good, but the earpiece speaker issue looks like one that isn't going to get fixed. Even after loading a few alternate audiopara files, the speaker isn't loud enough, and when you do get lucky and call someone who's voice comes in at a higher volume, the speaker distorts. Pressing the sharp edge of the top rim of the phone against your ear, which I find myself doing often, results in soreness after. Fun!
Long term durability seems questionable, and the battery covers on all 4 phones that i've had suffered creakyness along the edges where the cover doesn't sit against the frame of the phone tightly. One even slid side to side everytime the device was handled.
I'm keeping the one I have now, it seems to be the best out of the 4, but still suffers from all of the issues listed above. Of course the keyboard was installed totally crooked, but it's par for the course with HTC. I'll never understand people who say HTC = great build/materials quality. I find it hard to believe i'm the only one who's struck out so many times. Not only with the Fuze, but with a Tilt and an 8525 before it. It's unfortunate that HTC seems to have cornered the market on this particular form factor for Windows Mobile. I would go with Xperia, but now that the metal cases are cracking left and right, I suppose I should pass. Way to go HTC.
One upside, the VGA screen is really nice, big improvement over QVGA.
Good luck.
check out my post at:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/htc-touch-pro-t-fuze/234449-random-thoughts-about-fuze.html
and
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/htc-touch-pro-t-fuze/234303-necessary-software-fuze.html
the fuze/touch pro is a love or hate phone. as far as a windows mobile phone i would say this is the best there is. htc will not be out done when it comes to windows mobile phones. and no windows mobile devices have capacitive screens so its not the most brilliant for touch screen but its not bad tbh. good luck with your purchase and hopefully it will be as pleasant of an experience for you as it is for me.
somethings to remember, find a newer build of opera. i had downloaded build 15202 from this site. pages will load faster and theres some tweaks you can do to get 0 mobile websites. theres also a registry entry that will give you a zoom slider which is a nice touch for web pages than relying on the scroll wheel. and if you dont have good volume in a phone call, make a call to the phone and up the volume with the rocker during the call. it sounds weird but you can only adjust the call volume while making a call.
Get The Fuze!!!
After being almost scared away from the Fuze when I handled it in an AT&T store, I quickly went home and checked on XDA to see what could be done about the TERRIBLE performance. I found TONS of options for tweaks, fixes, and ROMs. After a LOT of reading and deliberating, I decided that the RRE HTC Fuze ROMs were for me. I'm currently running RRE v4.4.5SE which is AMAZING!!! My Fuze feels like it runs 1000% faster! It's great!
Get the Fuze; if you don't already know how, read about flashing; flash the RRE Fuze ROM (linked in my signature below), and ENJOY! You WON'T regret it!!!
Best of luck,
NR
I have the Fuze and one of the bad things about it is the battery life, If you are really going to be on the phone alot I'd suggest buying an extra battery lik i did.
Thanks for all the comments, I am now a proud owner of an AT&T FUZE.
First thing I did was remove all the bloatware as described in tyguy's excellent post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459335
It looks like I'm going to be spending quite a bit of time tweaking this beast until I get it just the way I want it, but that's the draw for me. I could have grabbed an iPhone and had everything I needed, but where's the fun in that? When I'm done with my tweaks, I'll have a phone custom tailored to suite my needs.
thats what i was thinking. the iphone doesnt need customization partially because you cant customize it to make it your own. the fuze may need alot of work when you take it out of the box but once you got it how you like it, its more made for you then an iphone. thats a downside for some people but ive been having loads of fun tinkering. my brother and my dad bough iphones and i poke at them doing things they cant, divx, tethering, garmin, taking pictures with flash, sending mms. i know theyre jealous because they bought the wrong phone.
Moved to the FUZE from the Tilt and after missing my D-Pad for awhile until I figured out the Fuze's pad, I now miss nothing.
I've had a lot of excellent PDA/Phones over the years, and have been a WinMo guy since PocketPC2000, and the Fuze is just yet another small step closer to the perfect combination device. I just STILL want a bigger screen.
As far as battery life goes, I use it just as hard as my Tilt, and get a bit more life out of the battery. I'm not sure what the huge complaint is, a dead battery at the end of the night is a good day. A phone that goes DAYS on a charge I haven't had since my Motorola V60
i miss the "dpad" from my ppc6700 (htc apache). it had a joystickish thing which worked well. but if im going to say i miss any one thing from that phone it would have to be the keyboard. you will never find a better keyboard on any other phone ever. and thats a challenge.
hey, about a week ago i traded my fuze, and... holy crap i feel as if a blight has been lifted off of me. I cannot believe i have spent this long using this fuze thing. I mean it is alright, but the phone is so annoying to use (and yes i used to say it wasnt, but when you really use an easy to use phone, you realize how ****ing annoying the fuze is)
litteraly this treo is like a god send
Things i really like about it over the touch pro
1 way better battery life
2 HEADPHONE jACK, now i can actually bring my phone to a house, and play music there without having a retarded addapter
3 the speakerphone and sound (is like 10x) as good, you cannot even compare it
4 the screen is suprisingly good, and considering its almost the same size, i barrely even notice the res cuz... the touch pro has way to small of a screen for such a high resolution
5 THe buttons, ooo, they are just so nice. I can actually do stuff on my phone EASILY! like super easily
6 GPS works significantly better, no comparison
7 Call quality is better, and louder
8 video recording is better , but pictures are worse
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what i like more about touch pro
1 it seems a bit stronger, incase i drop it
2 i guess the screen is better
3 its a little faster (but honestly the treo performs perfectly well)
4 accelerometer ( but really like... i think i can live without it considering all the other bunuses)
i was origionally debating to buy a Touch pro, or Treo, and went with the Touch pro due to all the better reviews and things.
man i wish i just went with the treo
it just puts a smile on my face, its just
so easy
pretty
fast
and and
awesome
THIS IS SO DISCUSTING!!!
I think i might have just vomited in my mouth slightly.
let me go grab a paper bag for ya. this disgusts me as well. whoever you traded your fuze to must be a lucky guy and knew what he was getting himself into. mad kudos for that guy
Thats funny I was just the opposite of you. I prefer the Fuze because of the endless customization. And the not so stupid ass screen size! Also after about 2 months of use the phone became very slow. To each his own I guess
im sure you dont work for treo or anything like that eh?
if by chance your THAT stupid, do us all a favor and GET OUT OF THE GENE POOL!!!!!!
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yes, for endless customization
and no, to all the other great things that the Touch pro doesnt just for its nice screen and a bit more custumization.
i prefer being able to come over my friends and play mp3s at his house anytime i want without adapters, and having very good battery life.
my treo pro plays mp3s for about 7-8 hours
before running out of batteries
and really, the touch pro is like a new device that is so new that is has failed in so many ways. The buttons, the headphone jack, the speakers, the battery life
i guess the only thing they didnt fail on is making it so crappy
that everyone had to custumize it to even make it useable.
The Treo definantly has the TPro on the headphone jack... but the low earphone volume can be corrected... you did an even swap though... i mean as far as $$$ the touch pro is worth more?... glad your happy with the Palm though... ill definantly stay with my Touch pro its fully customized and i LOVE IT
the palm might have the headphone jack but its not hard to find a small extusb to 3.5mm adapter. thats never my issue. everything else i think the touch pro does better. better keyboard, better screen, faster processor, more ram, better camera WITH FLASH, the accelerometer, fm radio. it also has better app support being a 4:3 rather than 1:1. htc also has a long standing relationship with windows mobile so it has great things to make it better like tf3d, the task manager that actually closes programs, a much better dialer (default dialer is an eyesore, palm!), and alot more. htc phones also have followings and development, like how the touch pro already has 6.5. the gps on the touch pro was a bit of a special ed student but with the new radio you get a lock in seconds and because of the better hardware it has faster polling so gps is better on the touch pro. i really hate that tiny spongey keyboard on palms. im sure you love your palm but i find it hard to believe that the palm would be better for me so you shouldnt tell me to convert.
well the 3.5 mm adapter is a total pain in the ass, like... since when do i need adapters to just listen to music peacefully
Yes, all the hardware / custumization is great, but the treo already comes with a light rom.
Touch, needed cuztumization cuz it just sucked so much. I have no need for TFT3D on palm, because all the hardware buttons do the same thing.
I use WSktask, and it closes all programs that arent running.
I basically put allll of my Touch Pro apps on my treo, and the only one that doesnt work quite so well is GSPlayer mp3
Its just for the touch pro i have to read forums, download stuff, roms, radions, bla bla bla
the treo.. i dont have to download it. Its a finished product. If you buy it, yo can use it rightnow.
if you buy a touch pro, you cant use it till you reflash it, and do all that stuff to it. Its such a pain in the ass to keep up with it.
I must say the treo actually seems to load webpages even faster then the PRO
most of my friends have liked the TREO siginficantly more with the pro. No one was really impressed with my modded, and romed/ radioed cool Touch PRO
but everyone loves this phone.
The custom Treo dialer is pefectly normal. I dont even look at it. If i want to call someone i press the (keyboard) letters of their name and press call
i never open the cal app first.
TF3D is only needed when you have all touch and ****ty ass buttons. If you have good buttons, there is no need for it. I got a button for calendar, for messages, weather and schedules are on the desktop, interenet is a softkey
wirless has its own button
camera has its button
and its so nice to have 5 people use speakerphone from my one little phone, and hear everything pefectly.
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well the 3.5 mm adapter is a total pain in the ass, like... since when do i need adapters to just listen to music peacefully
Yes, all the hardware / custumization is great, but the treo already comes with a light rom.
Touch, needed cuztumization cuz it just sucked so much. I have no need for TFT3D on palm, because all the hardware buttons do the same thing.
I use WSktask, and it closes all programs that arent running.
I basically put allll of my Touch Pro apps on my treo, and the only one that doesnt work quite so well is GSPlayer mp3
Its just for the touch pro i have to read forums, download stuff, roms, radions, bla bla bla
the treo.. i dont have to download it. Its a finished product. If you buy it, yo can use it rightnow.
if you buy a touch pro, you cant use it till you reflash it, and do all that stuff to it. Its such a pain in the ass to keep up with it.
I must say the treo actually seems to load webpages even faster then the PRO
most of my friends have liked the TREO siginficantly more with the pro. No one was really impressed with my modded, and romed/ radioed cool Touch PRO
but everyone loves this phone.
The custom Treo dialer is pefectly normal. I dont even look at it. If i want to call someone i press the (keyboard) letters of their name and press call
i never open the cal app first.
TF3D is only needed when you have all touch and ****ty ass buttons. If you have good buttons, there is no need for it. I got a button for calendar, for messages, weather and schedules are on the desktop, interenet is a softkey
wirless has its own button
camera has its button
and its so nice to have 5 people use speakerphone from my one little phone, and hear everything pefectly.
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"Go back to Russia!" Barney from Season 3 Episode 3 the simpsons
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F03.html
For the record, when ANYONE looks at my phone, they always comment on how awesome it is and all the features it has.
Never have i ever heard somone that has any palm device go WOW that so FREAKIN AWESOME!
i dono..
the touch pro looks cool when its unfolded
when in normal mode it looks like a rather basic phone with a pretty small screen for its cabaility. Its buttons suck too, both in response, and in button quality. Like the volume buttons feel so cheap and easy to press. This is not the same on the treo
the new treo looks rather impressive, i dont know how many of you have actually looked at it and used it.
but it really looks nice, and the screen is really nice and really bright. like... its pretty sweet
and i can navigate all my menues and options just using the dpad, calendar, msgs button.
and since i leave them open, they always appear instantly, and i dont need to do any TF3D sliding my finger around to do anything. i press 1 button and its done.
I agree ice. When everyone looks at my phone, they are all amazed, and when they start to use it, they are even more amazed. And you shouldnt get a phone just cause it "looks" pretty, you should get a phone that will perform well and can adapt. If you want a pretty phone, then get a treo, but if you want a good, customizable, reliable phone, then get the Fuze.
...and the God said,"let there be bozos..."
Without ignoramuses like this the world would be less colorful...more cheerful and peaceable, no doubt...but mos def not as interesting. This guy obviously is starved for attention, or just plain home-schooled.
But honestly, its a toss up as to who is more foolish...this guy for needing to be spoon-fed his gadgets OR US for even humoring him with a response?!?
*mg!*
ps...and oh yeah, can the camera on your little (be)Treo's do this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjeWehQrKjs
to each its own but there is no way you can compare the two enjoy your Palm but theres no way im giving up my TPro im enjoying the tv out looking at movies converted with projection's video converter
touch pro is still better in every way. nothing you have said so far made the treo sound better. you may just be convincing yourself that it ok you bought a worse phone.
also when it comes back to your adapter issue, extusb allows more than just audio out. try connecting your treo pro to a tv. and sharing youtube videos with your friends. or doing a powerpoint presentation at work.
well if you dont like customizing then why did you come to a website that has "developers" in its link and where people develop new software to make your phone better? You say the internet sucks on the TP. Did you use internet Explorer? Also I want to see you get a fix on a GPS signal within at most 2 seconds with your internet turned off.
hey for the first several people that posted on this thread dont flame the dude for trading his TP for a Treo, if its his decision then let it be, the raphael isnt for everyone, but to the thread starter "youre making a not soo smart decision" reasons would be
1.Treo has VERY limited customization compare to TP
2.it doesnt have light sensor and g-sensor
3.You can NOT even switch it off u have to take the battery out
4.treo feels like plastic unlike TP feels very solid all though minus the fact if u have the FUZE the back feels very slippery
5.Camera picture quality is very excellent with TP
6.the TP can be WAY faster than the treo with the proper ROM and setup
7. advantage with G-Sensor u can add aps like Touch InCall tweak which would make ur life easier by switching from in ear to speakerphone without pressing anything
8. u can still play music WITHOUT the adapter thats IF ure gonna be listening to internet streaming music(but if ure referring to listening with head phones yes i do agree the adapter can be a hassle but it doesnt bother me)
9. GPS locks almost instantly even indoors
10. FLASHING is the big + with TP customizations
but those are the reasons why id still keep my FUZE(TP)
like i said though enjoy your Treo, ure always welcome back to the forums for anything involving TP
P.S. i think youll be waiting for the TouchPro 2?
the touch pro is the epitome of windows mobile. forever customization and development. always a project to make it better. if you dont want that then i dont think you want windows mobile. the iphone or palm pre would be the solution. not the palm treo pro. go for something already customized for you in a way someone else things is better and have it developed on their time.
Hi everyone,
Just got my TF, and I'm loving it. I think it's a fantastic device and I can't wait to order my keyboard soon. That being said, there are still some, "issues," (more like minor annoyances) that I'd like to get resolved, hopefully before next Monday when I have a 4 hour plane trip.
1) YouTube skipping.
I notice when watching YouTube in fullscreen HQ, it seems like the video is constantly skipping. Is there any fix for this?
2) Live wall paper DESTROYS performance.
Not sure if there is a fix for this, but I was running a wall paper (might have come with Beautiful Widgets, not sure if it's stock) that changed based on the current forecast, and the sun and the moon would move based on the time. I noticed I was getting extremely bad transitions and disabled the live wall paper, and sure enough they went away.
I'm just surprised that a wall paper could destroy performance like that. Is there some sort of performance measure I could take?
3) Need a folio case (Accessories thread seems rather unresponsive)
I really want a 'folio type case. Having to hold the tablet for 4 hours would really kill the experience for me, especially if I'm using it to watch a movie or something.
I've read some very bad things about the Asus one, and I don't want to drop $50 if I'm going to replace it in a few months when more accessories come out. I've thought about a desk stand, but that seems very inconvenient for travel with.
One way or another, I need a way to protect it in my bag while traveling. If I can't find a decent folio case, I'll buy a cheap sleeve, but then I need a way to prop it up. Any suggestions?
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Other than that, everything is pretty issue free. I guess I should consider myself lucky based on some of the things people are reporting.
Youtube usually takes a little bit longer than typical to buffer but I have never had any skipping issues.
The live wallpaper you are using is most likely not optimized for tablets and it is also notorious for slowing down phones. I have used it in the past and while it is very nice it does indeed harm performance and battery life.
Try using one of the live wallpapers that came with the device.
The Beautiful Live Wallpaper has an option when you are setting it where you can reduce the FPS. This will make your transitions better, but it's not going to make a huge difference in the long run. It seems that the HC launcher, or HC itself, just has some real rough animation edges that are seen in the lancher and elsewhere.
With mine, the stock HC Launcher lags a fair bit on my default screen where I have a 4 information widgets (beautiful weather super clock, plume, gmail (HC) and the calendar schedule (HC)). Going to my next screen to the right, which only has icons, is less chunky than going to the widget default screen. Going to an empty screen from either of these is very smooth since there's nothing to draw really.
On my other tablet (Viewsonic G Tablet) I run Launcher Pro, with it's wonderful widgets. Similar setup too on the default screen with weather, twitter/facebook, etc. I tried to set that up on HC as well, but even with Launcher Pro it was laggy switching between screens. Something that didn't happen in GB on on the G Tablet. Since Launcher Pro felt wrong on the Transformer I switched back to the stock launcher until something better comes out.
From what I've read, though, HC 3.1 tackles the transitions issues and other things. Additionally, on ASUS' facebook page they say they are already working on the 3.1 update for the Transformer. Hope that comes out sooner than later
I have one question:
Why using wallpapers that slow down your overall tablett performance and not just use a nice picture?
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I have one question:
Why using wallpapers that slow down your overall tablett performance and not just use a nice picture?
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The Beautiful Weather one is really nice because it shows the sky that changes based on the time of day and the weather conditions. At night you have a dark sky with a moon, in the day you have a light sky with the sun. It's not needed, just nice .
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Thanks for the info. I guess it's waiting for HC 3.1 then (which I don't have a problem with).
Any info on a good Folio case?
I also might need to return the tablet. I noticed last night part of the bezel sticking out on the bottom side, and I'm worried this is going to cause problems when I get the dock. I plan on calling Asus later today.
I'm having the exact same issues with youtube. I have waited for the entire video to buffer and it still glitches like crazy. It makes the video unwatchable. I also noticed this happens when I play any sort of flash video in fullscreen. (ie. nbc.com full episodes).
Is this an isolated problem or is everyone else just looking past it? It's driving me bonkers because one of the main reasons I bought this to be able to play videos when at friends/relatives houses. I'm 100% stock, non-rooted.
I've only noticed the Youtube/flash lag issues when it's high def video (1080p and sometimes on 720p). Otherwise, I don't see any visible lag. This was on Flash 10.2 and haven't checked on 10.3 yet.
Yeah, I get the lag anytime I choose "HQ" in the youtube app. I seem to get flash choppiness no matter what the stream is, as long as it's fullscreen.
try youtube through the browser, 480p should work fine in the browser.
as for your question regarding the folio case...
the reason the accessories thread is unresponsive (i've posted there myself) is because there isnt really much to report on the dedicated TF cases. there are some options that people are exploring (netbook sleeves, folio cases designed for other tablets) but thats because the ONLY case out right now is the one from Asus. from what ive read, the Asus one kinda sucks and is not worth the $40.
i have my TF for business use...going to meetings, viewing documents, etc...so i'm right there with you on the need for a folio case. there just isnt anything out right now. my best guess based on what ive read is that third parties are making cases for the TF right now and i would say this time next month, we should have at least a couple of options. this is not the iPad so third party support isnt just chomping at the bit to push out accessories to an "unproven tablet".
my advice to you would be to get something relatively inexpensive just to protect your tablet from accidental dropping or scratching until a true folio case comes out. and who knows when that will be, but my hope is 2-4 weeks from now.
hopefully they fix the youtube HQ fullscreen playback soon!
I'm thinking a cheap sleeve might have to just do it, and ill pick up a folding stand for my plane trip. Really don't want to do it this way, but it might be the best option for the cost.
Hi all,
Maybe this is useful for some folks. I loved my original Galaxy Tab and have now upgrade to the Plus. For info, I'm using the devices in Asia (Malaysia, Singapore, China, Vietnam) mostly. The version I have is a 3G with calls enabled.
I use the Tab as my primary mobile phone. It is therefore essential that it fits into the back pocket of my jeans or pocket of my suit pants. I have paired it with a VoyagerPro+ Headset and this works perfectly for calls, audio (mono of course) and Skype. I'd say I'm a heavy user with 2-3 hours of calls a day and a fair bit of web surfing, sms and emailing.
What I loved about the Original:
Contrary to many of the reviews, I really enjoyed the fact that this was an oversized phone, not a pint sized tablet. I never felt there was anything wrong with Gingerbread as an OS on a screen of this size, in fact I really liked the experience. Icons were big, keyboards very useable particularly in Portrait and the whole thing had a solid, Tonka like feel to it. It was also really tough, having dropped it countless times, never without a problem. Another handy feature was the sim card slot; very easy to access as I often swap sims.
What I noticed immediately with the Plus:
Clearly this is a small tablet. You tend to hold it in landscape much more often. The resolution of the screen is the same, but all the icons and toggles are much smaller. This makes quick operation (e.g. whilst walking) quite difficult. If placed on a desk, this is not so much of an issue. The learning curve in moving to Honeycomb is quite steep and (personal matter of taste) the transition from home screen to home screen is a bit kitchy. The tablet feels thinner (though it's not...except at the edges)
What I am beginning to like with the Plus:
Though the operation of the device is more "delicate", i.e. more care needs to be taken about where your fingers tap, there are quite a few cool features to be had in Honeycomb. The widgets are superb. Some of the tablet tailored apps are also great, particularly Youtube notwithstanding that rotation of the screen immediately reloads the video (arrrghh!!!). It feels fast, and after a week I'm already noticing that the battery time is noticeably better. In some of the blogs, the Samsung apps which float above open apps have not really impressed the reviewers, but I have found that the dialer and the calculator are particularly useful, say if you're browsing a site and want to dial or check something.
What I miss about the Original Tab:
I hope that over time I'll have the same trust in the sturdiness of the Plus. Going back to the Original Tab, I feel the same sense as when I first bought it, namely that everything on the screen looked huge. It really feels like you were playing with Lego and now you're playing with Duplo . One of my favorite apps (smart keyboard pro) doesn't play nicely with Honeycomb and so I have lost my multilingual inputs until I find a replacement.
Wrap-up:
It's a week in with the Tab Plus. I had the original for a year. Already, I know I would not want to go back to the original mostly because I enjoy the Honeycomb features, the speed and the longer battery life. I'm still not as fast at typing on the Plus, but hopefully this will improve over time.
For anyone looking to upgrade from the original, be aware that it is may not be the quantum leap you experienced when you first got the Galaxy Tab, but provided you can get used to the smaller icons & toggles it's a good upgrade.
Happy to take questions if anyone's interested.
Cheers,
Marc
marcolamy said:
The learning curve in moving to Honeycomb is quite steep and (personal matter of taste) the transition from home screen to home screen is a bit kitchy.
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You might consider a third party "launcher" app (such as ADW, Go Launcher, etc) that can make your home screen and launcher feel more like gingerbread. Otherwise, happy you are enjoying your tab
take care
gary
I agree that it definitely got the pint sized tablet treatment, which is somewhat of a shame given the choice between cramped tablet or luxuriously roomy phone. It has a nice solid feel though, and I was relieved to see with the latest firmware update the Market app no longer forces a nearly useless landscape mode.
I've made icons even smaller than stock with ADWlauncher EX and locked the tablet to landscape mode. I found the stock setup way too huge and "blown up phone"-like than what I want.
My WiFi only 7+ maybe feels a bit more unstable than the 7? Netflix freezes every once in awhile, which absolutely never happened on the 7. Then again the 7 couldn't even stream half the video that's out there, so I'm not complaining.
I actually like the look and feel of the smaller icons. Yes, a bit harder to navigate but esthetically it just feels better to me.
The only thing I really miss from the original Tab is my high res embedded album art. All of the music players I've used are stretching the thumbnails rather than finding the embedded file. I'm assuming this is a Froyo vs. Honeycomb thing?
Speaking as an old school, analog geeky tech guy who was dragged kicking and screaming into the digital age, I can honestly now say I don't know how I lived my life without a Tab 7+ in my back pocket.
rtfm, how do you find yourself spending your time on the 7+? What do you use it for? When do you use it instead of a phone?
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rtfm, how do you find yourself spending your time on the 7+? What do you use it for? When do you use it instead of a phone?
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We're still WiFi only out here in the boondocks of northern New England. No 4G and barely any 3G in the area. So the Tab for me is mostly a media consumer. I've tried to use it at work as a notepad, document viewer but it's a bit cumbersome to get everything in order for that big meeting you're going to have. But for looking at, listening to or reading stuff like I say how did I live without it?
Being an old shortwave/ham radio geek, the ability to lay in bed and stream radio stations from anywhere in the world is still a revelation to me.
I've purchased my first 2 Kindle ebooks from Amazon and read them on the Tab. I still have mixed feelings about "owning" e vs. "real" books on the living room shelves but I looked forward every night to reading a book on the Tab.
The 7+ does video where the 7 couldn't. Netflix just works (mostly).
I threw away my old big-red-LED AM/FM alarm clock and i use the alarm in the tunein Radio app to wake up every morning.
If you download the maps that you need before you go on a trip Google Maps is your GPS all set for your vehicle.
Music. I'm still waiting for the proper player to get the album art right, but it's got all my music on it.
Online news. Every morning with a cup of coffee. Read the headlines and a few stories. From just about anywhere in the world. Still for free. Simply amazing.
All of this from a little box that fits in your back pocket.
Hi, same here. I've been using Original Galaxy Tab for quite some time, and I've bought myself a 7+ last two weeks. For me, it is indeed an upgrade version of the original one, but it's not too far away. It has better speed, but it is not as fast as SII. I used SII last month and I thought they would be more or less the same in term of performance as they share the same processor. Is it related to Honeycomb? Anyway, I love the Honeycomb instead of Gingerbread on the original Galaxy Tab. Honeycomb's widget and notification bar are quite useful and eye-candy.
What I miss on the 7+ is the feeling of toughness and durability. The original Galaxy Tab feels solid and tough. Gorilla glass, and the black colour border makes the difference. On 7+, the silver border looks fragile, I accidentally scratch it last week and the paint drop is obvious at that spot. =(
One more thing, when I put it in my pocket, (yes it's my primary phone), I always mispress the power button and volume rocker. Maybe its because this time, the edge is thinner and sharper.
This will b my first tablet. So my question is the design of the plus exactly like the original because im trying to find cases and things and there's not much out there for the tab plus just wondering mine will b here Monday or sooner so just wondering
Typed by my midget minion
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My WiFi only 7+ maybe feels a bit more unstable than the 7? Netflix freezes every once in awhile, which absolutely never happened on the 7. Then again the 7 couldn't even stream half the video that's out there, so I'm not complaining.
I actually like the look and feel of the smaller icons. Yes, a bit harder to navigate but esthetically it just feels better to me.
The only thing I really miss from the original Tab is my high res embedded album art. All of the music players I've used are stretching the thumbnails rather than finding the embedded file. I'm assuming this is a Froyo vs. Honeycomb thing?
Speaking as an old school, analog geeky tech guy who was dragged kicking and screaming into the digital age, I can honestly now say I don't know how I lived my life without a Tab 7+ in my back pocket.
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I had both the Wifi and 3G versions of the 7+. The Wifi version was defintiely more unstable. I already sold it. It kept having sleep of deaths.
the 3G version for some reason is rock solid.
Another thing is that I can watch Flash video on the 3G version. For some reason, the Wifi version is more finnicky playing online streaming video. I don't understand it. I tried the same sites, but got different results.
However... the 3G version for some reasons takes a hell of a long time to charge. I was charging it at 4 in the afternoon and it's now 8:20pm and in four hours or so I only got up to about 60% charge. What the hell?!
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I had both the Wifi and 3G versions of the 7+. The Wifi version was defintiely more unstable. I already sold it. It kept having sleep of deaths.
the 3G version for some reason is rock solid.
Another thing is that I can watch Flash video on the 3G version. For some reason, the Wifi version is more finnicky playing online streaming video. I don't understand it. I tried the same sites, but got different results.
However... the 3G version for some reasons takes a hell of a long time to charge. I was charging it at 4 in the afternoon and it's now 8:20pm and in four hours or so I only got up to about 60% charge. What the hell?!
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My Tab + charges in 3 hours and it was always full battery.
First tablet ever for me, bought it for the bat life and size. Needed something bigger than the 4.8 inch Viliv N5 or old Sony UX 280p. Seems my vision is getting worse with age lol, anyhows i have found the device to be very gratifying. Been an old pda user for years, so it feels like a larger smoother pda for me. Check news, facebook, watch vids and such on it. Only complaint is not neccisarily its fault (gameloft games dont run on it). Or at least the ones i playon my G2.
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rtfm1777 said:
My WiFi only 7+ maybe feels a bit more unstable than the 7? Netflix freezes every once in awhile, which absolutely never happened on the 7. Then again the 7 couldn't even stream half the video that's out there, so I'm not complaining.
I actually like the look and feel of the smaller icons. Yes, a bit harder to navigate but esthetically it just feels better to me.
The only thing I really miss from the original Tab is my high res embedded album art. All of the music players I've used are stretching the thumbnails rather than finding the embedded file. I'm assuming this is a Froyo vs. Honeycomb thing?
Speaking as an old school, analog geeky tech guy who was dragged kicking and screaming into the digital age, I can honestly now say I don't know how I lived my life without a Tab 7+ in my back pocket.
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Let me update this 2 months later. One firmware update and a couple of Netflix upgrades have come and gone. The video playback is rock solid and whatever slight stability issues I noticed in the beginning are not bothering now. I'm still annoyed by the album art thumbnail issue. But as far as I'm concerned the 7+ is top of the line.
And if I've got what I need right now, why do I need ICS?
My Galaxy Tab "died" over the weekend and since I need a Tab I replaced it on Monday with the Plus.
Overall I'm liking the Plus but some thing are bugging me. The fonts and widgets seem smaller, though the screen's are the same resolution. Can't seem to make home screens I'm happy with
On the plus side the P6200 is so much faster! Also the screen seems much more vibrant.
Now if I could only get my screens sifted I'd be a happy camper.
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GPRS/EDGE Class details
This is my first post in this forum. I am planning to finalise on Galaxy Tab plus 7.0 (GT-P6200). The Samsung India website doesn't provide exact information about the Product.
Which data class the GT-P6200 belongs> Is it Class 10 or Class 12 or Class 33?
The Exynos chipset used in GT-P6200 is same as GT-P6800?
Is the CPU Overclocked in GT-P6800?
The Tablet GT-P6200 sold in India comes with IR peer and from which country dose the company imports the Tablet (China, Korea or Vietnam)?