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Hi there,
here's a question relating to the soft-keyboard:
I noticed that with some applications (e.g. PHM reg editor) when I want to punch in a value and hit the corresponding field the keyboard will pop up (which is perfect so far). Now, the keyboard sometimes hides the OK button which I'd have to hit to accept the changes but somehow I can't convince the keyboard to go back where it came from - there's no button to disable or change it (like the "12" button you sometimes see in the bottom).
What can I do to get rid of the keyboard in such situations? Is there maybe a hardware button??
Thanks a lot
There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear, regardless of the selected input method.
The input method icon, is always displayed when there's a possibility for text input.
ps.: RTM
gnick666 said:
There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear...
ps.: RTM
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Read the manual and like I said:
There's NO icon displayed at the bottom of the screen!
Then use another program, that's the best workaround that i can come up whith..
Or there's the possibilty of a greater underlying problem that would need a Hard Reset to fix it... so far you're the first whith this problem...
Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard
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Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard
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Exactly, Minimo is another one of those applications that show this problem.
How about changing your default kb to something else?
There is a reg hack to disable the SIP from displaying when you put focus on any text field, but that is not a good solution for a device that doesn't have a physical kb. I use it on my Treo 750 since I don't need the SIP. However, on the TC, it would make much sense.
On a bit of a side note, I have heard that if TC owners want to use another kb besides the standard Xt9 version, you need to apply the following to disable it:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME
Did your registry tweaks will stop pop up of any keyboard when accessing a text area?
That's what I 'm looking for. Because I installed a full screen keyboard and I use it with a button.
Thxs.
up!!!
Pleaaaaase'!
This app will keep the keyboard from poping up automatically. You can still open it manually. I've not tried it with WM6.
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml
Thanks a lot!
It works!
what full screen keyboard are you using?
I use SPB full keyboard.
Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
I too would like to know the solution for this. I have a feeling that this is kind of a feature from Opera and can't be disabled but it's very annoying for users with hardware keyboard.
I have this issue on my kaiser too
Daniel1515 said:
Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
its a bug with opera...
Brendo said:
its a bug with opera...
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Actually, it's not Opera. It's Raphael itself. HTC should have made it in such a way that if the keyboard is out, the SIP should not be displayed.
To prove that it is not Opera, try creating a new SMS. Do this in portrait mode first. Try hiding the SIP and change field (To or Message). You'll see that the SIP is displayed every time you change field. Now slide out the keyboard. Try changing field and you'll see that the SIP is also displayed.
As far as I understand (from another post somwhere on the forum) it's not technically a bug...
It's a requirement of Windows mobile that the SIP is deployed whenever text is entered into a field. Seems rather daft when you have a hardware keyboard on your phone though...
I've had that registry tweak above work for me, the same tweak is implemented in Advanced Config 3.3 as well. There's another fix that *should* work throughout Windows Mobile, for text fields.
It's called nullkb, and installs an option into the SIP menu that gives you a null keyboard option, and any attempt to bring up the SIP brings up nothing. I installed it, and it appeared to work, but after a reset, it defaulted back to the normal keybaord, so you have to select the null keyboard everytime you reset the device.
I'd love to find a way to simply disable auto deployment of the SIP in ALL circumstances. NullKB forces you to go into the SIP menu and select another keyboard should you want to use symbols, for example. The registry fix only seems to (sometimes) work for opera.
I just want the SIP to stay hidden until I want it, and a single click on the keyboard icon should bring the selected keyboard up.
I have no idea how to go around getting this working, I'm more of an end user than a developer...
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
Change that to 0 and it disables the SIP entirely. I'm thinking this fix and judicious use of PQzII (once I figure out how the hell to set it up...) to set up hardware keys for lots of symbols (where the hell is "\" on the keyboard? On a WM phone I would've thought a \ key would be mandatory...) might be the way forward, though it's a fair amount of work to get everything set up.
branko.savic said:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
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That doesn't work, at least not on my CDMA Touch Pro.
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e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
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Doesn't work on my CDMA Touch Pro That regedit makes the keyboard appear on screen all the time, with no way to minimize it.
it is a bug in opera...
it is well documented as one
you can see if you disable autodeploy of keybaord (use advanced config) and youll see it still appears in opera. the only work around is to download nullkb and select it as your input while using opera
I had the problem with nullkb that it wouldn't stay as the default SIP after a soft reset. Loading PQzII and setting a link to PQzII in the startup folder fixed this, as within PQzII you can select which SIP should be displayed in portrait *and* landscape individually.
This still means a couple of clicks to get a keyboard up in landscape for entering symbols, but if in portrait the SIP will display normally.
I still can't get the "\" to work properly through PQzII though... it displays odd characters whenever I enter it into any of the PQzII configuration options. I suspect \ is used extensively in the code or something, and this messes up what's going on inside PQzII.
Hi All,
I have been trying to get japanese input working on my Raphael, and have run into some problems. Here's what I have done:
1. Installed LesJapanNo6 - all working/tested no problems
soft reset
2. Installed IME_31J_QVGA_F file
soft reset
-> manila.exe error, device.exe error, and another exe error (can't remember now - think it was TouchFlo3d related). Hardware keys dead.
3. Made the registry edit to get hardware keys working
soft reset (note, regional settings still Japanese)
After that, every time I would try and input something, or change the input method, I get ongoing crashes in device.exe (until I closed the kayboard).
I then decided to change the regional setting back to English (UK), and then soft reset. Now it starts with no errors, but input is stuck on hiragana and the keyboard icon has disappeared so no standard romaji input.
I think I now have to install the enable_ime_2 and/or enable_ime_3 cabs, but am paranoid I have already done something wrong (crashes etc from step 2). Can anyone more experienced hint at the final steps to get this all working?
Thanks,
Raj
The steps you have above should work fine, but use the VGA version:
http://rapidshare.com/files/159514259/IME_31J_F.cab.html
You might need to go ahead and hard reset before you try again.
Just for reference, I have LetsJapanNo6 and IME_31J_F on my Raphael 1.90.405.1 WWE (UK stock ROM), with the following reg tweaks applied:
Code:
[HKCU\Keyboard Layout\Preload]
default = "E0010411"
[HKCU\Keyboard Layout\Preload\1]
default = "E0010411"
[HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\IMEJP\3.1\MSIME]
Option3 = "D"
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010411]
Keyboard Layout = "00000409"
Word of caution: when you go to edit the reg values, highlight the text and write over it; don't use the backspace key, because for some reason it inserts a lot of garbled text. Once you've saved the reg edits and soft-reset, the backspace key functions as normal again.
Also consider using PQzII to map keycode 0xE6 to IME; this will allow you to press the SYM key on the hardware keyboard to toggle between ascii (A→a) and kana (A→あ) input.
Other known issues: JP IME breaks T9/word suggestion, some other minor oddities.
SoftBank is releasing its version of the Raphael, so be on the lookout for a native JP ROM (which will have everything set up correctly) in the future.
Working perfectly now, fantastic!!!
Thanks!!!
I tried to map the SYM button to IME. But there is no way for me to specify 0xE6 in the IME menu.
is the new Raphael PQzII different?
aquasesh said:
I tried to map the SYM button to IME. But there is no way for me to specify 0xE6 in the IME menu.
is the new Raphael PQzII different?
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I typed it in.
I'm using 008e1, but the latest e2 should be fine.
I have had this working for about a month now but was wondering how to get a keyboard shortcut to switch the kana/romanji input. This works perfect.. thanks!!!
thanks!!!
just a shot question:
as I use the hw-kb of my xperia for inputting text, it would be cool to have the tegaki-kb as standard one. Whenever I set it in Windows Mobile-Settings, it gets switched back to romaji-kb on restart.
is there a reg-hack for this?
would greatly appreciate your help!!!
ttkman said:
just a shot question:
as I use the hw-kb of my xperia for inputting text, it would be cool to have the tegaki-kb as standard one. Whenever I set it in Windows Mobile-Settings, it gets switched back to romaji-kb on restart.
is there a reg-hack for this?
would greatly appreciate your help!!!
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It might be a problem with Xperia Panels resetting it to romaji-kb (TouchFlo3D does the same thing on the Touch Pro).
If you use PQzII, you can configure it to override the default input panel. You can even specify different default panels for portrait and landscape. Just open up the setup program (PQzII_Setup) and the settings is on the first page.
nevermind, got everything working!
thanks!
Hey fellow XDA-ers.
I hope that in this thread we can unite in finding a solution for the annoying t9 input mehod, without breaking the hardware keyboard.
What's the problem:
I want to get rid of the annoying black t9 input and autocomplete bar, and use the standard WM6.1 version.
What anoys me the most is when you type an address for sending text, you start by typing first name of for instance friends who share a first name, but have different last names, , as soon as you hit space for the lastname, the person with the first name that's on top of the list gets selected..ARG
I also hate the lag it introduces.
So getting rid of the black ezinput part of the keyboard.
This can be done by replacing the eT9 values in your registry at the layout to COMP (et9IME replace by compIME and so on) and this works for soft keyboard.
However, this "fix" breaks some stuff in your hardware keyboard (the SYM key for instance stops working, also you cannot get the euro sign or the pund sign by pressing fn E or fn W)
I of course want the best of both worlds, and especially miss the sym button for getting a "\" whilst typing in shortcuts
So, I have tried so much, but haven't found a solution yet.
Does anybody know how to get this "best of both worlds" option?
Does opening up the on-screen keyboard and hitting the T9 --> ABC switch help?
nope
It doesn't use autocomplete then when typing text, but you still get the black bar at the bottom whilst entering an address, and the space-issue (filling in word after space) is introduced.
I just want the behaviour as when eT9 replaced by comp (ei. you get a couple of suggestion in your screen in light grey boxes, in stead of on bottom bar in black) but with FULL use of my hardware keyboard.
I want to do this without installing all kinds of secondary software that slows my device down, but want to solve it at the root.
Hope I am explaining the problem clearly
But thanks for the reply..
Maybe we can figure it out..
known problem
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
player911 said:
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
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If that's the case, making a cab, or posting the necesary files to replace would be ideal.
Does your SYM key work?
sounds like a very good start
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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Tnx for your input Steve.
I allready have that set up, but as you will find, it does not get rid of the black bar during txt msgs to field input, if you know what I mean.
It also gives lag on the hardware keyboard input comapred to the comp ide input method, which I find anoying.
What I really want is just the old wm input and auto complete feature without breaking my keyboard.
but as said before, thanks for the input.
This way we can narrow it down and hopefully make the problem easier to understand.
Ta...
tried editing sym files
Tried editing and replacing the txt files in windows directory,
eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt and eT9DeadKeys.txt and renamint the et9 to comp, no luck.
Anybody any suggestions?
akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
Not quite
Smaniac said:
I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
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It get's rid of the black bar whilst typing a text, however whilst typing an adress in the to field, you will notice that you still get a black bar and proposed name in the bottom of your screen.
This is actually eT9 still running, and slowing down your input, trust me on this
The "old" way, you'd get the proposed names next to your to field, in a light grey box, and you could scroll through them and use the space bar without getting it to autocomplete.
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
indeed
GaZ said:
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
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It does the trick and it is how I use it now.
It's just not the solution I am looking for.
I'm a bit wierd in that way, if I see it poping up, I know it's there and it just annoys me...
Don't you just love the way things were before
But thanks for the tip.
No luck here yet
I haven't had any luck yet, anybody else?
This issue is really starting to bug me
Any luck yet with removing the T9 Black bar? I am having this problem as well.
Me too!
i want the old way with the little grey box, it was so much better. It gave a number of people when you typed in a user name for sms and it also gave better autocomplete options.
Solve for all us
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
yes it worked for me on Touch HD perfectly
Works
Igoran said:
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
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TY it completely rocks on Touch HD.
Does this just disable T9 on the hardware keyboard? AND, when entering a contact into sms or email you get the grey list like before?
What about T9 for soft keypad/boards? How does it function now?
I stumbled upon your thread while searching for "disable t9 hardware keyboard".
I have the same problem on my Kaiser... Installed ezinput keypad/board and now have that 'damn' black bar. I'm getting used to it like 'GaZ' but dont really like it...
<<<UPDATE: Only selected abc over t9. Black bar still there.>>>>
use different sip
im not sure if this help but wasnt this issue introduced with the diamond sip set? maybe using different sips might get rid of it. or maybe replacing the new eT9 and using the old wm6 t9 instead in wm6.1 roms. just a thought
Hi,
I am just new to this pocket PC phone (just the old HTC Touch) and i tried out installing an IP Phone Keyboard program. When I wasnt happy about it, i uninstalled it but it messed up my SIP. The default standard input keyboard now is cut at the bottom (meaning i dont see the entire last row of Ctrl, space bar, etc.) but there's a black row appearing at the top of the input keyboard. It looks like the input keyboard was dragged down. Worse, the suggested words now appear at the bottom of the screen (where your normal Send or Cancel buttons are).
I really would appreciate your advise and help in getting this resolved. Dont know where to run to or whom to raise this to.
Thank you and looking forward to your response.
ailene said:
Hi,
I am just new to this pocket PC phone (just the old HTC Touch) and i tried out installing an IP Phone Keyboard program. When I wasnt happy about it, i uninstalled it but it messed up my SIP. The default standard input keyboard now is cut at the bottom (meaning i dont see the entire last row of Ctrl, space bar, etc.) but there's a black row appearing at the top of the input keyboard. It looks like the input keyboard was dragged down. Worse, the suggested words now appear at the bottom of the screen (where your normal Send or Cancel buttons are).
I really would appreciate your advise and help in getting this resolved. Dont know where to run to or whom to raise this to.
Thank you and looking forward to your response.
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Restart your PPC. After that go to settings--> input---> select default input keyboard and try.
Hope it will help.
Are you using the default keyboard?
You can install any other SIP and it should work fine even if the default keyboard's having problems.
You can also hard reset incase you don't manage anything else.
I'm not aware of a bug concerning the default keyboard showing wrong except for something which goes away after a soft reset.
Thanks very much for your responses. Unfortunately, I did all that (set keyboard as default, try installing another keyboard software, soft reset and hard reset) but the problem still persists. I am almost in the vicinity of regretting why i had this PPC.
can you specify exactly which app caused this problem?