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Hi all ...
we need some (maybe a lot) help from programmers to try to remap the hard keyboard keys from mda3.
As many guys know, we are a lot that we buy the mda3 with german hard keyboard layout... and now that we all have an english os, we must remap the key and symbols.
Any idea will be appreciated, we have all files from german os an english os.
Nobody want to broke the keyboard to glue the buttons in other place...
Nobody now how and where can order another english keyboard and replace it phisically.
Remain two thinks:
1. find the file with the layout and remap the symbols via hex edit
2. recompile a new layout (and here may be usefull for future progs)
All idea wiil be apreciated, all guru's invited
Please help us ... we can not take advantage of the new hard keyboard in this mode.
Thanks all before and...
COURAGE FOR ALL NEW POSTS THAT MUST BE UPDATED(POSTED) !!!
DenisJ
Actually, keys and numbers are fine. It's punctuation that is almost impossible to use unless you have a good memory
From what I remember of the old thread that got wasted, a few things were looked at but it seems harder than it should. You would think one or two files transferred from the PDA2K to the MDA III, like a keyboard dll and a mapping data file, would do the trick but, as usual with engineers, they made it harder than it should.
I can suggest another way for this remapping: just writing a kind of program lookind for keypressings and substitute them with another keystrokes.
I've already done it for Russian keyboard (project home page is http://ae.inc.ru/bahrus.html , but it is Russian only). Current state is "beta".
I can do some key remappings this way. But I need to know which of the keys should be replaced with which one. Or replacement table may be simply saved in config.
I'll do a tabel with the replaced hex value ...
You need only the xex value for this or need more ?
Thanks a lot
Denis
Let's try (before find all remapping simbol) to remap only the two letters z and y.
Symbolic constant Value (Hex) keyboard equivalent
VK_Y 59 Y key
VK_Z 5A Z key
like ... if '59' then '5A' and viceversa...
If we can remap this two letters, we can remap all we want.
Thanks a lot
Denis
german to english
since the site posts went down i have received my mda3 in german of course and would love to know how to flash it with an english rom, all other threads however speak of xda3nbftool which i can't find anywhere, also many of the links for required files don't work. any help please?? thank you
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paulmurphy777 said:
since the site posts went down i have received my mda3 in german of course and would love to know how to flash it with an english rom, all other threads however speak of xda3nbftool which i can't find anywhere, also many of the links for required files don't work. any help please?? thank you
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Go here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/
and look for Bluangel folder.
Regards
Ok, I decided to implement more general solution for this problem and develop customizable hardware key-remapping software. This application wil allow to remap not only BlueAngel built-in keyboard but almost any hardware keybord connected to wince (some of my friends use Luch or Flexis external keyboards with PDA).
Hope first beta version will appear next week.
thank you!, sure i'll be back with more questions though!
Fantastic!
I'm excited about this
AE said:
Ok, I decided to implement more general solution for this problem and develop customizable hardware key-remapping software. This application wil allow to remap not only BlueAngel built-in keyboard but almost any hardware keybord connected to wince (some of my friends use Luch or Flexis external keyboards with PDA).
Hope first beta version will appear next week.
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Wow, that's great news. (exactly what I wanted to hear!) Keep up the good work. (you rock)
AEKMap is available at http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.html
To make "remapping" you need:
- install the program;
- run Start - Programs - AEKMap Settings and choose "AZERTY MDAIII with English ROM" in first combo box
- set three other optional layouts to "unassigned" and/or unassign "switch" key.
If you want to create specific layout, you may start with editing one of the existing. Use \Program Files\AEKMap\AEKMapScan.exe to define keyboard pseudo-scan codes.
To find unicode character codes use Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map on your desktop
This program may be closed with popup menu on system tray (lower-right corner of today screen).
And I'm definitly sure that some bugs are in this utility now. Let me know if you find them
Also send me with your layouts to be published on site (will appear in a days)
P.S.: AEKMapper may be used to remap almost any external or built-in hardware keyboard recognized by system.
AWESOME!
Thanks for doing this. If i understand correctly, what's needed now to get the German MDA III keyboard mapped correctly, following the imate english rom installation, is to:
use AEKmapscan.exe to identify all the keys that need remapping
then look up the correct unicode characters for the desired keymapping
enter them into a .AEK file and put into the Program Files/AEKMap directory on the MDA III.
If i get some free time today, that's what I'll do. If anybody beats me to it, please post!
thanks again, AE!
So here is a mostly working layout file for the MDAIII German. The only thing that seems to be not working is the semicolon/colon key just to the right of the space bar. that key seems to have no shifted mode, according to aekmapscan.exe
also: if aekmapscan.exe is running, this appears to stop the keyboard from working at all in applications. it needs to be stopped entirely.
Thanks again for this great tool!
It is always nice to know your job is needful to someone
As for the problem with semicolon: changing CapsLock/Shift processing flags should help:
HookShift 1
HookCapsLock 1
Probably I'll find a better solution for this later, but now I can't...
Official project home page will be available at http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.html
thanks for the tool, works great. Can you add an option to not have the mapping name on the bottom, i.e. DenisJ Layout? It covers up the wireless icon that I use to turn Wifi on & off.
thanks again for the app
you already can turn it off. that's the "hint" option in the settings.
A parts from thanks the great job from AE, i wan't to try to ask a question:
In the registry there's a part...
HKCU/Keyboard Layout that have a profile value..
Could it be usefull..
My German Mda3 have... preload/1 set to e0010409.
Can anyone post the english Pda2K value...
Rups..
Bug report
AEKMap works quite well, thanks to the developer!
But...
I noticed that, when AEKMap is on, you can´t adjust sound/volume levels from the external button on the left side of the screen. Is that a bug or a feature? :roll:
Second thing is that if you switch the AEKMap off, you can switch it on only by softreset. Is that ment to be?
Can anyone confirm those features, or is it just in my MDAIII?
-Jigi
Sorry guys but i just arive from my fisrt (this year) snowboard weekend
AE many many thanks from me and (as can you see) from all other guys with the same german mda3...
I just tryed some days ago to begin something like this using EVC++ 4.0 ... but it's too much to study for an as400 programmer
This will be surrely in my startup programs for a log live time of my mda3...
Surelly we will ask you some options in future ...
Another lot of thanks
DenisJ
Is there some hack/app for that?
I'd like to map it to hw button for better one-hand usability, but I couldn't find anything about how to do it...
Hi krysha,
krysha said:
Is there some hack/app for that?
I'd like to map it to hw button for better one-hand usability, but I couldn't find anything about how to do it...
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I'm looking for such an app, too. So please tell us, if you found a solution.
TIA,
BGK
Since no one is stepping up to the mark for now, I'll upload this
All it does is switch to QWERTY sip.
At some point I'll get it to enumerate all SIPs and you can specify them from command line, but I've no idea how to enumerate SIPs yet. I'm only just learning C++! :shock:
If you send me the CLSID of the SIP you want, I might knock together custom versions, but I'd rather learn how to enumerate and do a nice solution... :roll:
V
Hi vijay555,
vijay555 said:
Since no one is stepping up to the mark for now, I'll upload this
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Wow, great. That's one big step forward! Haven't downloaded and tested your app now, but it sounds great!
A few months ago, I started to develop an app like this, but due to limited time I got stuck with it. But this could be helpful for your sipswitch:
Maybe you could get all installed SIPs by reading the registry (look for all entries with the key "IsSIPInputMethod" in HKEY_Classes_Root/CLSID/).
Finally, it would be great being able to select several input methods to switch between them (in my case, I normally prefer the letter recognizer but switch to Intellipad when I'm on the road :wink.
Greetings,
BGK
BGK: thanks for the info.
The procedure to enumerate SIPs is built into the API, SipEnumIM and SipEnumIMProc. I've never written an enumerator in C++, only VB, so I'll learn how to do it one day soon. If anyone cares to demonstrate how, I'll be happy to put it together.
I imagine what the prog will eventually do is enumerate the installed SIPs. Then you can specifiy by command line "SipSwitch.exe Calligrapher" or "SipSwitch.exe Keyboard" etc and it'll switch and popup that sip.
V
I finished it finally.
I managed to get it do to everything indicated, ie Toggle Sip and switch sip by name, eg SwitchSip Calligrapher will bring up calligrapher.
Bed time
V
Is it possible to change the SIP in silent mode? I want to change the SIP without the SIP to pop-up after change ? Possible?
Thread will be moved to Q&A (even tho it's MEGAold )
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Thread will be moved to Q&A (even tho it's MEGAold )
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Why? It has vijay's program that has been developed here. How does this not belong in development and hacking?
I hate the SIP panel, and I favor the switch the Input Method via keyboard silently.
With my TyTN = Hermes and WM6.0 the autosuggestion of words seems much better than the Raphaels (at least in the hardware keybord stance).
Can someone explain why that is or if I have haven´t understood the utility or something else right?
With TyTN it basically suggests 4 alternatives in a diagonal way, it can be one word or SEVERAL words in a row, depending on what I´we written before. And you choose from them with the upp and down arrow keys. Simple and quick.
With Raphael it suggests several ONLY singular words horisontally, and if it´s not in the dictionary it automatically chooses another word than the one you´we just written (!?). Slow and awkward.
Also - who is behind this solution? Windows Mobile 6.1 or is it HTC Raphaels unique solution?
Thanks in advance
/Danne
Anybody have an opinion or information on this matter?
At least the system is a part of WM6.1 or if it´s Raphaels unique solution? Because I´m thinking about buying a Kaiser with WM6.1 instead and wonder if it has the same solution.
Sorry, no additional info, but I'm in the same boat so to speak.
I find it completely useless, specially since I don't always use English in my SMS messages, and I found that it becomes a nightmare if it doesn't find a match and then forces my word to something it thinks it should be.
What I cannot understand is that under Settings-Personal-Input-Word Completion - I have DISABLED it, but it still friking tries to complete my words, even in keyboard mode???
Do you know of another place to disable this dastardly excuse of a feature?
HAH!
Found it! If you want to disable it completely, the do the following:
1) make sure you disable it under settings - all settings - personal - Word Completion.
2) When you open a new message, bring up the virtual keyboard and look for the button that reads "ABC T9" - it has a toggle on the button, make sure it is on "ABC" and NOT T9 -voila!
Now I can SMS again!
I´m glad I was not the only one being irritated about this. But at least it´s possible to turn it off, so thanks for posting the solution Piie
I actually returned my TP because of this and severeal other reasons but I´m thinking about buying it again or some other WM6.1 phone. So do you know if your solution to turn if of works with Word Mobile documents as well?
And still, if somebody knows if it´s part of Raphael or WM6.1, please let me know.
Agreed 100% on the uselessness of word completion feature on the TP. On mine, the T9 feature actually slows the sms application so much as to make it completely unusable. This is probably my biggest complaint with this device.
Yip, following the steps as posted also removes the predictive text completely for Word ( and all other apps I have used so far)...
Thanks piie
I believe its part of the TP keyboard (SIP) not WM6.1 , when i had my kaiser with wm6.1 this "IRRITATING" issue was not there, but when i installed the diamond keyboard on my kaiser, this thing came out...... now its part of the TP because of its keyboard.......... so its HTC
I was getting annoyed with the behavior described in posts 1 and 2, disableds the whole thing too (I had an Excalibur before and it seemed to work far better on this particular aspect).
However, I decided to give the TP's T9 another shot and started changing it's configurations and finally got rid of the annoiance related: when on a text field, bring up the T9 options by pressing "Fn" + "Space", select "T9" settings and on the screen that appears uncheck the "Spell Correction" and "Auto-substitution" boxes.
Now I'm using the word prediction (T9) again just like I used in my old device, tipying much faster! (specially because I commonly write in portuguese and my keyboard is the UK one...).
Hope this helps you guys.
Cheers.
Sweet!
So you can still have predictive text, but remove the actual "irritant" of it overriding your word if it doesn't match it's dictionery - seems like that is the answer to your problem Danne?
For me - I really don't care for ANY kind of prediction - most often than not, even in English, the suggestions are maybe 30% usefull if that...
Great!
Yes, this is solution and now I know it´s part of Raphael/Diamond and not WM6.1!
Still, the Hermes WM6-solution with prediction of several words based on what you previously have written seems better. But I am happy with this!
I guess that´s the last words for me in this discussion.
Thanks guys!
just wondering how to disable word completion without installing htc ezinput, because at input settings by disabling it, doesn't work at all.
here's everything you need to know on how to get back to the old style autocorrect and change your dictionaries: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527
That however breaks your hardware keyboard
sym key will stop working and you can't get pound and euro sign using FN key....
see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470647
I use my PDA mainly to effectively stay organized and want to execute the most commands with the hardware keyboard. The Hermes (TyTN) was great for that purpose but I wanted something faster and had better camera and so on, so I bought Raphael.
The Raphael is great in many ways but it has slowed down my organizing and irritated me and I´m wondering if I can do something about it, see things differently, or if you have suggestions for recomending something else, like Kaiser or Xperia?
More specifically...
-The input method with auto suggestion seems crappy (see separate thread)
-The soft keys above the keyboard are gone
-It actually takes longer time to open Word-documents (than with Hermes) - it takes 15-25 seconds for a 50kB doc (!)
-The screen is not placed in the middle
Lot´s of complaints , but I am looking for a solution here, so please enlighten me
/Dan
Hardware shortcuts.
PQzII for hardware shortcuts. Have you changed from the default ROM this may speed up word.
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PQzII for hardware shortcuts. Have you changed from the default ROM this may speed up word.
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Does PQxII work even for the soft keys - menu and...?
Are the ROM:s available here language-specifik, or can I use any one of them? (I have a Swedish model.)
And thanks
is not appreciated by users
First, this version of SlideIT is not fully compatible with the HTC HD2. Only registered users of SlideIT get the pre-release version 4.1.0.2 (pre-released on March 10th 2010) from the developer Dasur, which is the full version and compatible with the HTC HD2.
Second, as you describe it, it sounds like a warez release to me and is surely not allowed to be uploaded here.
Third, i request to warn the topic-starter and/or ban him.
If thats so, moderator remove this topic pleas...
But anyway if you dont like it its fine...
But is it allowed to hack and crack WP7S and post it on xda? Or alot of other programs on this site? But if this is against the rules...ok please remove this topic moderator!
Thnx
Also: the Dutch language pack doesn't work...it only gives me english suggestions
pietme said:
Also: the Dutch language pack doesn't work...it only gives me english suggestions
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It does work!
Go to "[email protected]" on the keyboard > Options > Languages tab and set primary language
Please remove the link to the installer cab file. If this version of SlideIT is really fully registered, then i can't imagine that it is allowed to be linked with this forum in any way.
it works
I confirm that it works, but it takes some getting used to,
it does not work in landshape
it crashed the phone
have delete it...
Didn't i tell you, that it is not compatible with the HTC HD2?... tzzz...
Register yourself at Dasur.co.il and pay for SlideIT. It's not that expensive, it's worth the money and the actual 4.1.0.2 pre-release is compatible with the HTC HD2.
SlideIT is fully compatible with the HTC HD2
You can all get the new version, not only registered users of SlideIT get the it.
Dasur relese tow days ago a new version 4.1.0.3 which is fully compatible with the HTC HD2.
try the demo version first, then go and buy it, it's not that expensive !!!
You can get a lot of sites in trouble by posting Warez because they can be sued/shutdown if they're not doing their utmost to remove or discourage posts like this.
Just a friendly message.
I might suggest you guys not to use this "shareware" version in case it doesn't work anyway.
Unless you'd like to spend money so that you can get a working version, I think it's better off to use simplier and free touch keyboards.... the more you save energy, the less it gets on your nerves
sorlan said:
You can all get the new version, not only registered users of SlideIT get the it.
Dasur relese tow days ago a new version 4.1.0.3 which is fully compatible with the HTC HD2.
try the demo version first, then go and buy it, it's not that expensive !!!
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FWIW - I am running SlideIT 4.1.0.3 on my HD2 and it is, put quite simply - AMAZING! Blows Swype into oblivion - its far easier to use; much nicer to use & @ the current price of under $8 USD is a steal!
Is there any way to make the keys vibrate like the default keyboard?
Since we're discussing options:
-I hate it how it ALWAYS uses a SPACE after I type something. Granted, it's nice when you're typing normally, but when you're writing a word that isn't known or when you try to edit a word, it gives you spaces between the letters;
-When I'm entering a password, it automatically starts with capital letters.
So, what can I do about it?
pietme said:
Since we're discussing options:
-I hate it how it ALWAYS uses a SPACE after I type something. Granted, it's nice when you're typing normally, but when you're writing a word that isn't known or when you try to edit a word, it gives you spaces between the letters;
-When I'm entering a password, it automatically starts with capital letters.
So, what can I do about it?
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Download the free SlideIt manual - tells you all about entering passwords, email addresses etc.
Cheers