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Original Touch Pro vs AT&T Fuze

Hi guys, I'm pondering weither to plunk down $900 for the Touch Pro or just wait and upgrade from my iPhone to the ATT iteration of the device. Will there be any differences of specs between the two beside the US 3g band and missing front camera? Fuze is a lame name too...

Just wait till Sep 29th to get a fuze. It's the exact date. Now ask yourself these questions:
Want it locked or unlocked?
Want the keyboard of the touch pro or the fuze?
Want to pay $299/$399 (I didn't get specific price but was told it's one of these two) /w 2yr or $900 w/o plan?

I would agree but you know that HTC will put out a ROM that will enable all the bands as soon as the FUZE is released on at&t. Or if someone figures it out before then which I think will happen anyway.I have a feeling that they are locking it down in the US as per at&t so they can sell the FUZE instead of the unlocked version in the states. Lets face it. if you had a kaiser and tilt in front of you, which one would you take. And I know... The price difference is gonna be HUGE so we will see...

Kraize92 said:
Just wait till Sep 29th to get a fuze. It's the exact date. Now ask yourself these questions:
Want it locked or unlocked?
Want the keyboard of the touch pro or the fuze?
Want to pay $299/$399 (I didn't get specific price but was told it's one of these two) /w 2yr or $900 w/o plan?
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For me it an easy choice:
1. Dosen't matter, If locked we'll unlock it
2. I rather have the AT&T keyboard. Access to many of those little punctuations used when typing and the numbers clustered togeather so it easier to input numbers quickly.
3. $299/$399 with 2 years sounds much better than 3x that amount.

RojasTKD said:
For me it an easy choice:
1. Dosen't matter, If locked we'll unlock it
2. I rather have the AT&T keyboard. Access to many of those little punctuations used when typing and the numbers clustered togeather so it easier to input numbers quickly.
3. $299/$399 with 2 years sounds much better than 3x that amount.
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Just heard.
It's not going to be called the Fuze but the Touch Pro and the top row will be numbers not symbols.

RojasTKD said:
For me it an easy choice:
1. Dosen't matter, If locked we'll unlock it
2. I rather have the AT&T keyboard. Access to many of those little punctuations used when typing and the numbers clustered togeather so it easier to input numbers quickly.
3. $299/$399 with 2 years sounds much better than 3x that amount.
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I agree with this logic. i can't see myself paying 900 bones for the features that will be brought forth here by the XDA Goonies lol. other than the front facing camera which is the sht, i don't have any concrete reason not to wait for AT&T's version. Yes the standard ROM will be grotesquely bloated with AT&T's usual BS but a custom ROM can easily be flashed. So me personally I'll wait for AT&T. but so help me God if they delay this thing anymore.....

Kraize92 said:
Just heard.
It's not going to be called the Fuze but the Touch Pro and the top row will be numbers not symbols.
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where do you get this magical info?

Kraize92 said:
Just heard.
It's not going to be called the Fuze but the Touch Pro and the top row will be numbers not symbols.
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you know we need a source site right?

thunda_chunky said:
you know we need a source site right?
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AT&T data manager and a close friend that's a rep.

Kraize92 said:
AT&T data manager and a close friend that's a rep.
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you're a lucky man lol

thunda_chunky said:
you're a lucky man lol
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Yes. I am. Especially since I'll be buying the touch pro for 50% off retail and that will be considerably cheaper then /w 2 year contract.

Kraize92 said:
Yes. I am. Especially since I'll be buying the touch pro for 50% off retail and that will be considerably cheaper then /w 2 year contract.
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now you're just showing off

thunda_chunky said:
now you're just showing off
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Okay okay. lol. I'll stop

so will att have that wonderful black friday sale again too so we all can share your 50% off?

pazookie said:
so will att have that wonderful black friday sale again too so we all can share your 50% off?
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Don't know. That depends on where you're located. Like in cali, they do. Because 80% of at&t's marketshare is here. So yeah, here they probably would. I don't know about small states and such. But i bet they definitely will in large states. Oh btw, my 50% is off of retail pricing. The black friday deal will probably have contract deals and not retail deals.

im hoping best buy gets it the same day
since when im not at school i work there and no rebates to worry about plus the phone should be cheaper
plus gotta love payin 40 a month for a whooole lot

lbhocky19 said:
im hoping best buy gets it the same day
since when im not at school i work there and no rebates to worry about plus the phone should be cheaper
plus gotta love payin 40 a month for a whooole lot
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How old are you btw? I'd work at best buy but I'm like 16 :S You're over 18?

Kraize92 said:
How old are you btw? I'd work at best buy but I'm like 16 :S You're over 18?
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you dont have to be 18 just the phone section gotta be 18
i started at 16
now im 20

wow youre 16? i wish i knew about smart devices when i was that young..im 23 and got into smart devices only about a year and a half ago..started with an mpx220 and it froze all the time and returned it for a cingular 2125 then realized i should have got a touch device (thought they were huge like dell x51v's) and got a 8525 then a tilt...so how did you come to know this contact who can get you 50% off retail?

but ya i live in cali and i dont mind renewing for 2 more years..i personally love att and ill tack on 2 more years to get this device but i plan on waiting JUST to see how it actually is once its available..see if its really worth it to upgrade..

Which phone ...

Ok, so I have a decision to make, and only till Wednesday to make it ...
Currently, I have the Palm Treo Pro. It's a GOOD phone, I LOVE the keyboard and I love how small/light it is. I DO NOT like the proprietary USB of the "end" key as its uber sensitive. Also, most of my programs don't work on the screen (OliveTree Bible, Mud Inc. Pocket Cribbage, and Handmark Monopoly V1) ... so my other options are
HTC Diamond - I get $ back, but, I lose microSD Card or HTC Pro, I pay around $100 more, but I get the microSD Card slot and sliding keyboard.
WiFi is important, and I should point out, I am on the TELUS Network.

HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....

galaxys said:
HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....
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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA

kepp this phone until tocu pro 2 comes out

One more for TP2
Is not the "Perfecrt" device but is one of the best candidates available

THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...

I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.

_Allan_ said:
THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...
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On thatcase just erase the 2, I´ll go for TP!
kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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You are right mate

kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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I can't wait 14-18 months for the TP2 (which is about how long Telus will take to get it *L* as they have ONLY had the Treo Pro for about a month!) ... I think I'll go on Wednesday and get the Touch Pro.

Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month

Because Telus is CDMA but soon (2010) to be UMTS/HSPA

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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA
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Where on Earth do you live???? Sahara??? Middle of the Atlantic ocean?
Ok some usefull info for you:
Diamond - has serious heat issues and its very well know to fry its own screen. HTC are constantly fighting people and refusing to repair faulty units. I owned one and then returned it as it could also not play music without jumping/skipping. Both these issues can be easily found by going to the Diamond section of these forums.
TouchPro - (not the TP2 as everyone else seems to have got confused over) Never owned one so comments are limited to what can be read on this forum but, I miss having a keyboard and am now ordering an Asus on Monday that has a keyboard. Typing an email on the Diamond was a pain in the a*&e and its only marginaly easier on the bigger screen of my Omnia.
Palm thingy - never owned one, never used one. Can't comment.
If I HAD to chose between these then in all honesty, i'd probably keep the Palm! Why? HTC build quality sucks donkey balls. Its a well known and easily googled reputation. Its a shame really as they spec out the phones very well and seem to have every intention of making excellent devices, just somewhere the penny pinchers seem to take control and quality drops.
Best of luck with whatever you chose today
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Diamond overheat issue - dont think anymore needs to be said on this
Music link - with $125 reward for fix
Music link - check out how many pages!
And just for good measure, another music link
Very quick google brings up over 32000 hits on hardware quality

galaxys said:
Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month
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Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?

OK so ... I was downtown yesterday, getting my Security Guard License and walked through Toronto Eaton Centre ... and I picked up the Touch Pro.
So far, I'm happy. I'm still testing things out and seeing what is good etc but ALL my games work, all my programs work AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED to, and I'm happy ...

Monty Burns said:
Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?
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Especially a phone that only does 3G at 2100MHz to use in a country that uses 850/1900.

HTC Desire S: £329 PAYG O2-UK (Unlock Free!)

price cut today at O2 UK
Same price as old Desire!!!
£329 + £10 top up! (free unlock from o2)
go website! to o2
Who's getting one!?

wonder if its the same instore, and does it have any O2 branding on it?

1 prob not
2 prob yes

jfran said:
wonder if its the same instore, and does it have any O2 branding on it?
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yes there will no software branding. but i dont think there will be any physical o2 logo brandings..
Should i get this or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000 ??

olyloh6696 said:
yes there will no software branding. but i dont think there will be any physical o2 logo brandings..
Should i get this or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000 ??
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i prefer desire s over the Samsung Galaxy S i9000
go to the shop & give them both a try & see what feels better for you

O2 didn't cut the price today. It has been this price for awhile now.

kartkk said:
i prefer desire s over the Samsung Galaxy S i9000
go to the shop & give them both a try & see what feels better for you
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thanks.
i have already tried the i9000 out loads and loads of times and i already have a tab which is similiear.
i havemt treid out the ds though, only the increible
my only concern is the community isnt big enough as the desire was at tgis time last year! everyones moving on to the dual cores

olyloh6696 said:
thanks.
i have already tried the i9000 out loads and loads of times and i already have a tab which is similiear.
i havemt treid out the ds though, only the increible
my only concern is the community isnt big enough as the desire was at tgis time last year! everyones moving on to the dual cores
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every one here has the same concerns too...hope the community gets bigger..there has been a recent increase in the number of people here hope it gets better
but i can tell you that the build quality of the DS is much better than the galaxy s i fell it also looks better & is the correct size...but peoples tastes differ...

kartkk said:
every one here has the same concerns too...hope the community gets bigger..there has been a recent increase in the number of people here hope it gets better
but i can tell you that the build quality of the DS is much better than the galaxy s i fell it also looks better & is the correct size...but peoples tastes differ...
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yeh, is this also going to make a US release? if not our community will be qute small and there will be very little development. TBH, i cant see many peopl going for this device. they will mostlikely to forward with the dual core phones...Thats probably why o2 have mad it cheap - not many ppl are buying it
I think this has superior software, and hardware to the SGS, its also much newer... but battery life how will it be??

I'm planning on getting one but I don't fancy shelling out £400 for a sim-free unit.
I did see the o2 store having them in stock for £330.
BUT I have a few questions:
1. They can unlock it free? Don't you need to be on the network for a while and pay for them to unlock?
2. Is there any o2 branding on the back or front?
3. Is there any o2 bloatware installed?
4. Have o2 disabled any features? Such as wi-fi hotspot?
5. Is there an o2 logo on the bootscreen?
I like to have my phones clear of any bloatware and any branding. But £400 is a bit much for me for a phone.

nicky041192 said:
I'm planning on getting one but I don't fancy shelling out £400 for a sim-free unit.
I did see the o2 store having them in stock for £330.
BUT I have a few questions:
1. They can unlock it free? Don't you need to be on the network for a while and pay for them to unlock?
2. Is there any o2 branding on the back or front?
3. Is there any o2 bloatware installed?
4. Have o2 disabled any features? Such as wi-fi hotspot?
5. Is there an o2 logo on the bootscreen?
I like to have my phones clear of any bloatware and any branding. But £400 is a bit much for me for a phone.
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1) they unlock it if you email them or something. i read it on the website. its free and easy. you dont need to have the phone for any required time
2) no physical o2 branding.
3) yes there is some o2 bloatware on it. such as apps, boot screen, pictures, videos, ringtones.
4) not sure. probably not.
5) yes i've seen it on the old desire.
Imo, get this and then flash an unbranded htc official rom somehow its much cheaper than buying it simfree.

Actually considering this now or SGS II as it will have a price drop and has a large community!
anyone else going for this?!
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olyloh6696 said:
1) they unlock it if you email them or something. i read it on the website. its free and easy. you dont need to have the phone for any required time
2) no physical o2 branding.
3) yes there is some o2 bloatware on it. such as apps, boot screen, pictures, videos, ringtones.
4) not sure. probably not.
5) yes i've seen it on the old desire.
Imo, get this and then flash an unbranded htc official rom somehow its much cheaper than buying it simfree.
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Hmm. Maybe I can convince carphonewarehouse to reduce the price a bit and offer a case free too XD
You can haggle :L

nicky041192 said:
Hmm. Maybe I can convince carphonewarehouse to reduce the price a bit and offer a case free too XD
You can haggle :L
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really!? can you actually do that?

olyloh6696 said:
really!? can you actually do that?
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sometimes :L
It depends who's working I guess.
You just ask if it comes with a case, if he says no, ask him/her what cases are available. Then look, then say that the cases are expensive for what they are and say you HAVE to have a case like its OCD. Then walk off. They sometimes ask you to come back and 'negotiate' a deal :L Sometimes works on contracts getting a couple months free etc.
Or say another company like phones4u have offered you a better deal. Then carphonewarehouse may give you an even better deal.
EDIT: And just make sure you know your stuff and not make things obvious. If you have been with carphonewarehouse for a while and you are due an upgrade but want to cancel, they are most likely to give you a great deal on a newer contract, but won't not a new phone, to keep you with them. My sister is on a 24months contract few hundred mins, unlimited text+internet for £15 a month with 14 months free.
They all negotiate to get commission. As long as the deal doesn't make them a loss than they should be fine.

nicky041192 said:
sometimes :L
It depends who's working I guess.
You just ask if it comes with a case, if he says no, ask him/her what cases are available. Then look, then say that the cases are expensive for what they are and say you HAVE to have a case like its OCD. Then walk off. They sometimes ask you to come back and 'negotiate' a deal :L Sometimes works on contracts getting a couple months free etc.
Or say another company like phones4u have offered you a better deal. Then carphonewarehouse may give you an even better deal.
EDIT: And just make sure you know your stuff and not make things obvious. If you have been with carphonewarehouse for a while and you are due an upgrade but want to cancel, they are most likely to give you a great deal on a newer contract, but won't not a new phone, to keep you with them. My sister is on a 24months contract few hundred mins, unlimited text+internet for £15 a month with 14 months free.
They all negotiate to get commission. As long as the deal doesn't make them a loss than they should be fine.
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ah, i see quite smart!
I'm a payg customer anyway with a contract on giffgaff. so i only get simfree phones. (or can be unlocked)
my friend did that when he got his htc legend on vodaphone. thanks for the tip!
personally, im getting it from o2 payg in summer. or hopefully by then, the incredible will match its price

Looks like this may be the way to go rather than buying SIM free, which is about £380...
These guys claim to be able to unlock any HTC phone for $15.75 too (about £10).
http://www.htcsimunlock.com/
I might wait until the Desire S gets rooted though, and by that time the price will have dropped more - especially when the dual cores are out. I hope so anyway.

Komatoes said:
Looks like this may be the way to go rather than buying SIM free, which is about £380...
These guys claim to be able to unlock any HTC phone for $15.75 too (about £10).
http://www.htcsimunlock.com/
I might wait until the Desire S gets rooted though, and by that time the price will have dropped more - especially when the dual cores are out. I hope so anyway.
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same here!
o2 will do a free unlock , so u dint need to gi to that website!
i'll be getting mine in summer

Yes I noticed before that you said they will unlock it for free, but I'm not convinced! (no offence!)

I went to the o2 store yesterday and they said you have to wait 3 months before you can unlock it and will cost £15.

Off-contract Infuse

Hey everyone, has anything been mentioned yet about being able to purchase the soon to be released Samsung Infuse off-contract? Tried looking around, but didnt see anything. Anyone have some insight on this? Thanks!

4.5" touch screen? i wonder how far they'll go.. 5" by the end of next year?
and i thought the htc desire hd was huge...

Bump. Anyone have an update on this? The day is nearing...

Thought it was just me. I've been looking frantically as well but can't find anything! Another thing where are the infuse forums! The phone is out in 5 days and were basically homeless. Back to price... I can't really see it bring over the price of the atrix which is 499... 199 on contract. So I think it'll fall right in line around there
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isdfoa said:
4.5" touch screen? i wonder how far they'll go.. 5" by the end of next year?
and i thought the htc desire hd was huge...
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That's what she said
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Heuser1 said:
Bump. Anyone have an update on this? The day is nearing...
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I have seen three prices, 499 550 and 599. Nothing on paper, just rumor and the 550 was from a suppose ATT guy.

isdfoa said:
4.5" touch screen? i wonder how far they'll go.. 5" by the end of next year?
and i thought the htc desire hd was huge...
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dell streak alrdy 5 came out 2010

I'm still thinking 499 but thats just me
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Just got back from the AT&T store. They gave me a hard time about buying off-contract on the release date (no idea why), but the manager said I could. It cost 549.99.

jbassett said:
Just got back from the AT&T store. They gave me a hard time about buying off-contract on the release date (no idea why), but the manager said I could. It cost 549.99.
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Weird I got no trouble at all. Walked in said I wanted one off contract. He walked out back and got one, asked if I wanted a case or dock or anything, I got the car dock (its sick) and then he rang me up. Smooth deal.

Got mine, 1 click root worked. Use latest version of 1 click (1.9 I believe).
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How much did you guys pay?

$549.99 at AT&T store, $599.99 at Walmart/Best Buy.

i work at an ATT dealer in GA
and our system says cost price 500$
floor price 599$
im probably gonna just buy one outright from my dealer for $500
because they are going everywhere else for like 600-700$

bigballa said:
i work at an ATT dealer in GA
and our system says cost price 500$
floor price 599$
im probably gonna just buy one outright from my dealer for $500
because they are going everywhere else for like 600-700$
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Darn. $500 is a much nicer price.

jbassett said:
Just got back from the AT&T store. They gave me a hard time about buying off-contract on the release date (no idea why), but the manager said I could. It cost 549.99.
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I also had to go through this bull**** until I reminded them that they're denying me, a paying subscriber, service. If they didnt sell me the phone I was def going to cancel contract.

FerraraZ said:
I also had to go through this bull**** until I reminded them that they're denying me, a paying subscriber, service. If they didnt sell me the phone I was def going to cancel contract.
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Just curious? What would you have gone to if you did cancel?

First let me introduce myself.
I have been following android forums for past year after switching from iPhone
During that time I rooted few phones installed custom rooms bricked some and so on.
Currently I'm using infuse after switching from Dell streak.
I purchased my infuse at local AT&T store and I was given $100.00 off without really asking much for it. I'm on contract and I didn't qualified for any discount even though I got it at $100 off. Retail no commitment price for it is $549.99 hope that Helps.
I had to sign up for 2 year contract extension though, but I don't care about that.
I love the phone, I have rooted it and Im waiting for custom roms.

isdfoa said:
4.5" touch screen? i wonder how far they'll go.. 5" by the end of next year?
and i thought the htc desire hd was huge...
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already done. it is called the dell streak. it qualifies as a tablet, but it makes calls. really a tablet phone.

[Q] You will buy the Sensation, what are you waiting for?

This is ONLY for you who do plan to buy the Sensation. Are you going to buy day 1 no matter what? Waiting to see if the initial reviews are good, but not for it to be rooted and bootloader unlocked? Waiting for it to be rooted and the bootloader unlocked? Waiting for root, unlocked bootloader and S-OFF? Let's see the figures in a poll .
I'm waiting for at least the Sensation to be rooted and the bootloader unlocked.

Of course "bootloaded unlocked" should read "boot loader unlocked" .

Just waiting to see the initial reviews. I am hoping to see that there is no sort of LAG and good battery life(at least full day of average usage per charge). Also a good GPS is a must for me. I really dont care about the benchmarks like most the people. I want to have a solid working phone with no reception issues, no bleeding issues and no software issues. I am sure that some devs would be getting this phone and before we know it would have root and more. For now I cant wait to see some real world reviews of the final product!

Day 1 I'm calling up CC to get it hopefully with a 1 year extension for $50 more than the 2 year price.

I can live without s-off but I can't without root & unlocked bootloader. I really hope this baby will be cracked or I'll be forced to keep my Desire a few more months. :/

Im sure it will be cracked. Alot of devs will be getting their hands on this phone. Seeing as its going to be the first dual core htc phone for tmobile. The question is how long will it take to be cracked. People thought the g2 was a lost cause but it happend.
[G2/HTC Vision]

xnifex said:
Day 1 I'm calling up CC to get it hopefully with a 1 year extension for $50 more than the 2 year price.
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Same here for calling customer care asap when released. Not worried about the bootloader cause I'm sure something will come along that will allow custom Roms. If not, well I'm currently running sense 3.0 port on g2 and it's freaking awesome. Now throw in much better hardware sound make for a great experience.
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i'm drooling to have this but i need the price to drop, otherwise i will get the Nexus S

I think I won't wait and I'll just read reviews but lemme ask you.. what's so bad in HTC's rom at all or in the boot loader? (not that I know what it is.. never had Anroid so this is going to be the first hopefully)

I live in the US. But the UK will be having it first on the the 18th if im not mistaken. I have at least june 8th to decide. "HOPEFULLY" when it lands on the US itll be rooted and an unlocked bootloader. But either way im getting it.

I'm 90% sure it will be cracked, so I'm buying on day 1. Selling my two current phones (Desire HD and Galaxy S i9000) to get it.

I already ordered mine on Handtec. Hopefully the idiotic customs bureaucracy we got here in Israel won't delay it too much.

n7of9 said:
i'm drooling to have this but i need the price to drop, otherwise i will get the Nexus S
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has it said anywhere what the price will be? I'm hoping it'll be $200-250

Already pre-ordered mine
Given the developments in Sense 3.0, I'm not too worried if it gets unlocked or not, but I guess it would be nice if the community found a way into it!

After buying the samsung i8910 day 1, without reviews, I've decided to wait for some initial reviews from now on to prevent making bad decisions again.

IJS-T said:
After buying the samsung i8910 day 1, without reviews, I've decided to wait for some initial reviews from now on to prevent making bad decisions again.
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What is S-OFF really?
please tell me.. I am quite a newbie sorry:$

Play.com put this up for pre-order @ £499.99 in the UK. Tracked £17 odd cashback on my TopCashback too. Not too bad. Really hope S-OFF Can be achieved, but not a massive deal, I have 2 other phones I can mess with custom roms on, and switch between them all. But I'd imagine the XTC clip should be able to do it, if it can for the IS and DS.

+1 ill be in line on June 8th early
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Omicron90 said:
Already pre-ordered mine
Given the developments in Sense 3.0, I'm not too worried if it gets unlocked or not, but I guess it would be nice if the community found a way into it!
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Me too.
Pre-ordered mine from play.com this morning, unlocked. They've got a date of 30th June.

I bought a G2x, returned it for another one, it too was plagued by the random reboots, so I returned it and got a Nexus S... Which due to my poor planning has to be returned by June 3rd... so, I am going to resort to borrowing a G1 for a few weeks so I can have the Nexus S money back in hand come release-day for the Sensation.
I'm not sure what people are all freaked out about - the MT4G and G2 didn't get unlocked for several weeks after their release. Give the XDA masters a chance to work their magic