I noticed that L26 has a rom that includes Manilla 3D and TF3D. Does anyone else have a rom with both of these options? I have only seen TF3D mixed with Manilla 2D. Any recommendations on a current rom as well?
I'm currently using Anryl's v5; it's very fast, and it doesn't come with a radio. After using both I think his is smoother, faster, and less buggy.
Simply Unbelievable
Hyden121 said:
I noticed that L26 has a rom that includes Manilla 3D and TF3D. Does anyone else have a rom with both of these options? I have only seen TF3D mixed with Manilla 2D. Any recommendations on a current rom as well?
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First of all : Manilla 3D and TouchFlo3D and TF3D all refer to the same project.
If you had actually taken the time to read Leo's (full:Laurentius26, the creator of L26 Roms) thread on the L26 ROM , you would've found out that this very question has already been asked a couple of times and consequently answered a couple of posts further up by either Leo himself or someone else.
Not to flame you or anything, well maybe a little, but this is exactly the stuff that is driving our developers away from here.
Opening up threads with questions you could've easily found the answer to,
had you actually taken the time to READ or even SEARCH.
Let alone posting it on the wrong thread.
Final comment @ Hyden121: Ignorance is never a valid excuse for stupidity
(@ everyone else: Sorry, I don't often scream, but felt this one was justified and necessary)
@mods: please close thread
To tell for all:
Manila is just the codename under TF3D was developed.
Cheers
WIzard200x said:
First of all : Manilla 3D and TouchFlo3D and TF3D all refer to the same project.
If you had actually taken the time to read Leo's (full:Laurentius26, the creator of L26 Roms) thread on the L26 ROM , you would've found out that this very question has already been asked a couple of times and consequently answered a couple of posts further up by either Leo himself or someone else.
Not to flame you or anything, well maybe a little, but this is exactly the stuff that is driving our developers away from here.
Opening up threads with questions you could've easily found the answer to,
had you actually taken the time to READ or even SEARCH.
Let alone posting it on the wrong thread.
Final comment @ Hyden121: Ignorance is never a valid excuse for stupidity
(@ everyone else: Sorry, I don't often scream, but felt this one was justified and necessary)
@mods: please close thread
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So, you think someone asks a perfectly reasonable question and all these intelligent developers suddenly throw up their arms in despair and decide to stop developing?? - do me a favour mate, your repsonse was 'Simply Unbelievable' and a complete waste of everyones time - if you can't help then don't bother to post.
As you said 'Sorry, I don't often scream, but felt this one was justified and necessary'
People need to do a little bit of reading, research, & searching before posting questions that have already been ask several times. Generally if you have a problem or a question someone else has too. Consequently someone else has probably already posted about the problem or issue.
Any ROM should work with both of it. Search for those individual threads, and you will find out more information. I presonally prefer 2D. 3D has lots of bugs in then, and cant turn the phone off, which is a no no for me.
My intent with this post was to never waste anyone's time. I did research and reading but perhaps I did not quite understand what I was looking at. A forum is a place to ask questions and learn and that is what I did. I only wanted help understanding and quite simply all I was looking for is a simple answer or perhaps a link to a corresponding forum. I don't believe that my question was an invalid one and I doubt people are leaving because of questions such as mine. You do not have to post a response if you are not answering the specific question or trying to help in another way. I would think that the idea of being flamed and accused of not searching the forums prior to posting a question is what would really drive people away. I am sorry if I wasted anyone's time with my post but next time please feel free to overlook my posts if they bother you so much.
"First of all : Manilla 3D and TouchFlo3D and TF3D all refer to the same project." This actually does help me understand what I am looking at and so thank you for this info. I thought there was a difference between Touchflow and Manilla. I never realized they were the same project... Now I do.
WIzard200x said:
First of all : Manilla 3D and TouchFlo3D and TF3D all refer to the same project.
If you had actually taken the time to read Leo's (full:Laurentius26, the creator of L26 Roms) thread on the L26 ROM , you would've found out that this very question has already been asked a couple of times and consequently answered a couple of posts further up by either Leo himself or someone else.
Not to flame you or anything, well maybe a little, but this is exactly the stuff that is driving our developers away from here.
Opening up threads with questions you could've easily found the answer to,
had you actually taken the time to READ or even SEARCH.
Let alone posting it on the wrong thread.
Final comment @ Hyden121: Ignorance is never a valid excuse for stupidity
(@ everyone else: Sorry, I don't often scream, but felt this one was justified and necessary)
@mods: please close thread
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You're dumbass.
Thread Closed. Watch the name calling, it will end badly for you i promise.
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I have noticed that this forum is beginning to look like HERMES once did. A lot of new people who just got the phone and asks a lot of questions before reading and searching for an answer.
I remember that there was a lot of badmouth in HERMES forum and some of the REAL developers went away due to all those questions asked again and again and then again.
We have all been NEW - and we are not all developers (I am not) but I love this forum and spend lots of time in here reading and becoming clever on my phone.
I am just sorry to see that things are repeated again and again.
The point is. No one has anything against any new people asking questions - BUT PLEASE use the search button first - then READ the proper THREADS, and THEN ask if INFO cannot be found.
REMEMBER - its quite possible that some have had the same problem before.
NOW: Should we have a STICKY thread for NEW guys??? MODS get on track and set some RULES please. (Lets keep it a developers forum where we new guys can become clever)
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I have noticed that this forum is beginning to look like HERMES once did. A lot of new people who just got the phone and asks a lot of questions before reading and searching for an answer.
I remember that there was a lot of badmouth in HERMES forum and some of the REAL developers went away due to all those questions asked again and again and then again.
We have all been NEW - and we are not all developers (I am not) but I love this forum and spend lots of time in here reading and becoming clever on my phone.
I am just sorry to see that things are repeated again and again.
The point is. No one has anything against any new people asking questions - BUT PLEASE use the search button first - then READ the proper THREADS, and THEN ask if INFO cannot be found.
REMEMBER - its quite possible that some have had the same problem before.
NOW: Should we have a STICKY thread for NEW guys??? MODS get on track and set some RULES please. (Lets keep it a developers forum where we new guys can become clever)
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Yes SIR Create some rules.I don't want to be a bad guy I am also not so skilled but at list I try to read .I flash for 2 years from this forum (starting with Hermes-TyTn and noe Kaiser-TyTn II) and always I find the answer in some thread on XDA.
Newbe at list think that you can easily brick your devices and forget about warranty if you don't read before.For shure you will find the answear at list 10 times .
Developers keep the good work !!!
Martinhdk said:
I have noticed that this forum is beginning to look like HERMES once did. A lot of new people who just got the phone and asks a lot of questions before reading and searching for an answer.
I remember that there was a lot of badmouth in HERMES forum and some of the REAL developers went away due to all those questions asked again and again and then again.
We have all been NEW - and we are not all developers (I am not) but I love this forum and spend lots of time in here reading and becoming clever on my phone.
I am just sorry to see that things are repeated again and again.
The point is. No one has anything against any new people asking questions - BUT PLEASE use the search button first - then READ the proper THREADS, and THEN ask if INFO cannot be found.
REMEMBER - its quite possible that some have had the same problem before.
NOW: Should we have a STICKY thread for NEW guys??? MODS get on track and set some RULES please. (Lets keep it a developers forum where we new guys can become clever)
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Not to be rude but have you searched yourself? There is already like few threads addressing this same concern. It does not matter how many threads/sections we create, n00bs will always ask the questions again.
*ggggg* ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
If you have some ideas to add there, just PM me. ^^
In my humble opinion....
WARNING.... Long messge ahead....
Since day one of reading this and other "groups" I've thought how chaotic and difficult it is to be involved in this. Speaking from an engineering perspective, the problems discussed on this board may be difficult to solve, but once solved it shouldn't be difficult for others to find the answers. But it often is!
Yes, the repeated asking of the same question is a problem. But the suggestion in the original message thread won't solve it. Yes, people (and not just newies) will continue to repeat the already answered questions.
So let's take the original question (with a little editorial license)
How to make it easy to find answers to problems/questions after the discussion is over?
And how about this one to make it easy for the developers as well.
How to make it easy to get the latest information on custom cooked ROMs and other software such as features, bugs, etc.?
Here's my take on getting to the answer...
1) What are the root causes of the problem?
2) How to solve each one of them direcrly?
3) What's reasonable to get the results you want?
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If I may take a stab at it at a high level...
1) What are the root causes of the problem?
a) Infrastructure - Simplistic and fairly free form tool
b) Mechanisims - almost none, system depends solely on humans following guidelines, monitoring and enforcing guidelines
c) Guidelines - minimum, focused on relavance and "goodwill"
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2) How to solve each one of them direcrly? (using different examples)
a) Problem: How to make it easy to find answers to problems/questions after the discussion is over?
- Have an infrastructure that supports.....
Question/Problem description:
Discussion:
Answer/Solution:
..... As opposed to what's here now
Question/Problem/Discussion/Answer/Solution in one big thread
b) Problem: How to make it easy to get the latest information on custom cooked ROMs and other software such as features, bugs, etc.?
- Have mechanisms to support versioning, bug tracking, documentation, etc....
Release [naming conventions, date, etc]
Features
Docs
Support [same infrastructure as 2a above]
Bug Tracking
..... As opposed to what's here now
Release announcement/Question/Problem/Discussion/Answer/Solution in one big thread.
c) Guidlines is a tough one because once you get past the "goodwill" stuff you have to find balance between being too rigid and too loose while maximizing effectiveness. A steering group is often used to do this sort of thing. It could be comprised of different interests to help ensure a better outcome.
In the end, I think the solution is either - deal with it the way it is, or make it a forum-wide issue to address.
Well, a solution, like you describe it, could be a hierarchical step by step information system... but... Who'd be able to administrate this? I can't even follow all threads in the Kaiser forum, although i am reading hours every day.
The problem are those, who cannot/don't want to use the search function. But this problem exists everywhere...
And that takes me back to a NUMERO UNO thread about search, rules and so on where a general code of conduct could be present...
Perhaps the real problem is - that we dont write enough info in the WIKI....
Another suggestion: At 4winmobile there was some threads reserved for stuff related to specific subjects (testing and so) and threads reserved for questions and "thank you" stuff.. Perhaps we should make a new SUB FORUM under KAISER related to questions that are NOT related to developement / testing and stuff like that.
Could be KAISER QUESTIONS where every question/discussion is accepted.
In that way we could open the door for all questions and more without any getting irritated with the number of repeated questions.
??
With all do respect (sincerely) it is easy to dismiss, but I think it is still worth discussing/considering.
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but... Who'd be able to administrate this? I can't even follow all threads in the Kaiser forum, although i am reading hours every day....
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The answer to your question (at least in my opinion) is if someone (question originator) asks a question and an answer is provided or problem solved, they (question originator) should properly document it per the infrastructure and guidelines provided.
Even with the current freeform system this is doable.
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...The problem are those, who cannot/don't want to use the search function.....
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While there is no doubt this happens, I believe it happens much less than commonly thought. Dredging through threads, search after search for someone new is challenging when they often have a hard time forming the question properly, let alone piecing the various technospeak notes.
tomsenna said:
With all do respect (sincerely) it is easy to dismiss, but I think it is still worth discussing/considering.
The answer to your question (at least in my opinion) is if someone (question originator) asks a question and an answer is provided or problem solved, they (question originator) should properly document it per the infrastructure and guidelines provided.
Even with the current freeform system this is doable.
While there is no doubt this happens, I believe it happens much less than commonly thought. Dredging through threads, search after search for someone new is challenging when they often have a hard time forming the question properly, let alone piecing the various technospeak notes.
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Most do not READ or SEARCH... it is becoming a mojor problem... the same posts over adn over... and then the n00ns ge upset when the people helping them point the to a place to read thier answer rather just handing them the answer straight up.... getting help by asking a question is great but save the rest of us from answering the sames questions over and over when there are stickys and WIKIS to help them..... I don't know alot about this but I search and search and when I can answer questions for people.. most of which I do not know the answer to the question but I can search and find it in about 10 seconds........
Just my 2 cents
This is my first post; I could be considered a super newbie.
I just ordered the Tilt and can hardly wait, I am preparing a folder with all the stuff I need to do including Dutty's V4.
The problem with searching for a noob is, you don't know exactly what to search for. This forum is very overwhelming at first with all the different version talk, different lingo, problems, etc. I almost gave up and said screw changing it, I have spent hours upon hours reading here the last few days and I am starting to get it figured out. The problem is it is a little dis-organized, and what would seem to be the most basic and obvious question to you is a stumper to some one like me (it is actually harder to find basic answers then it is to find more technical ones because no one wants to answered the basic ones, thinking that answered is too obvious).
A Newb Board would be perfect, with a few stickies (not the nine million that the other threads have) with the most basic FAQ and guides. From there you can link to the other FAQ or threads.
Questions that I had at first (I ordered a Tilt so they are all based on that):
1) Why do some ROM's have a AT&T Tilt Version, and are these the only ones that will work on my Tilt?-----The Tilt version of ROM's tend to include all of the "bloat" ware that came from AT&T (software trials, etc.).
-----No, you do not have to have a "Tilt" ROM
2) What is the AT&T Tilt missing that other verisons of the "Kaiser" have.
-----AT&T Strips out neat features that come stock on the phone like TouchFlo (an almost iPhone like interface for media) and also includes lots of memory hogging un-needed programs
3)Which ROM should I get?
-----Simply put there is no way to keep this up-to-date enough to answere this question. ROM's are constantly comming out and being updated.
-----Your best bet would be to stick to the most popular ROM's, Dutty's seams to have the most support. You can also look at peoples signatures.
Resources:
--Must Haves:
-----Hard SPL
-----Tilt Keyboard Fix
--Usefull Links (also check stickies)
-----XDA Wiki
-----ROM Flashing FAQ
-----Revert back to Original ROM
-----CHECK THE STICKIES!
If a Newb Board is made I would be more then happy to help create FAQ's/Stickies.
EDIT: I would like to add that the stickies are crazy, way to many replies, what would be good, and an easy solution, would be to split the sticky topics so that the Sticky only has posts from the original auther, he/she can update that sticky with new fixes/updates, and the sticky could contain a link to the discussion thread, that way the sticky stays clean, and every thing can be discussed in a non sticky thread.
Long hours of reading same question over and over again
This is my first post and this is why:
I joined the forum quite a while ago just so I could download the sim unlock for my wizard. I read everything I could find because if it bricked my phone - I knew it would be my fault. I did not have to ask any questions and the unlock process was successful. (it wasn't an easy process for a first timer)
I have been away from the forum for a while, until I got my tilt back in October. I have been hooked ever since. Before I download and install a ROM, I read. When I have issues with a ROM, I read. By the time I am done with the reading, there is nothing for me to ask. I still don't know how the cooks do it, but when I'm ready to find out - I'll read.
The repeated questions have really gotten monotonous. I will get 50 pages into a thread and find myself skimming through because I already know what is going to be asked next.
Warning.... here I go again... ignore at will
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This forum is very overwhelming at first with all the different version talk, different lingo, problems, etc. I almost gave up and said screw changing it, I have spent hours upon hours reading here the last few days and I am starting to get it figured out. The problem is it is a little dis-organized, and what would seem to be the most basic and obvious question to you is a stumper to some one like me (it is actually harder to find basic answers then it is to find more technical ones because no one wants to answered the basic ones, thinking that answered is too obvious).
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Exactly, couldn't agree more. If this didn't strike an emotional cord with people, I think the answer would be... yes there are people who don't do thier homework first, but there are at least as many who do. So let's focus on the ones that do and perhaps it will give fewer excuses for those who don't.
Having a so called "newbie" area.... sorry that I'm a doubting Thomas, but what would be the change? Okay, let's say it exists. First good thing, get the newbs out of your hair. Now they have a sandbox to play in. Are the information, conversations and all else different? Same structure, just a different sandbox. What happens when they play in your sandbox when they can't find what they are looking for in thier's? I can hear it already (no one in particular of course, but the flames do happen already). After a while, who's playing in the newb sandbox? Some of those with the expertise may conclude "all the newb questions have been answered" and tend not to visit the newb sandbox. And look out... less help... here come the newbs trickling in for help again.
Okay, enough of my drama. My point is, without fixing the real problem you're just fooling yourself (IMHO). Why is it always necessary to to things over and over again rather than do it correctly the first time?
This happens in software and hardware development everyday. There's a difference between managing constraints and good enough. I suppose it happens in every industry doesn't it? I guess it's a human thing
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The repeated questions have really gotten monotonous. I will get 50 pages into a thread and find myself skimming through because I already know what is going to be asked next.
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Couldn't agree more! And the skimming (which is normal) happens when there is no perceived value or frustration or whatever. Then you could miss a minute detail if you were looking for an answer. This happened in the last few days to someone who read and read and read. He asked a question after doing so, was told to go back an read and he did. After a couple of time it was discovered he missed one simple thing.... "cd to the directory". how many messages later burried in a bunch of other conversations were there? Only the next person who has the same problem and dredges through it will know for sure. Just one of many example out there..... and the beat goes on.
I dont mean to be bothersome...
Since the kaiser upgrading thread is getting really really messy.
Maybe we should open a new WinMo6.1 section.
Kind of like the have winMo6 for the hermes and all those phones.
It will make it eaisier for people and chefs to organize everything.
If this is 2 much to ask please delete this thread.
Thanks Everyone
I second this.
i also agree this..
I agree. The buzz and releases surrounding WM6.1 requires a subforum.
I also agree
I totally Agree, i m confused all oever again.
I agree as well - 6.1 has opened another can of worms. While we're making requests, perhaps the posts that say only "downloading", "flashing", "Wahoo!" and other inane comments that do not contribute to the forum in any way could be filtered out.
Cheers-
Or maybe a section just for ROM's????
I agree, it is kinda messy.
i concur. i'm lost in all of the information right now as well.
If there was a section just for ROM's, it might help out for the stickies as well
i really have no prob with how it is.
how bout a section for cooked roms? probably the same as windows 6.1.
And also a way to compile all the stickies, they're taking up space.. Its annoying to scroll down for the meat of the forum.
BUMP: For one reason or another I don't think this thread got enough attention. I sincerely believe that we need a subforum for the Kaiser. Windows 6.1 sort of like the subform of WM 6.0 for the Herald and many others
I will bring this up with the mods and admins to see the direction they want to go.
Build 19199 or Build 5.2.19716 updated FEB 20.2008 seems to be the newer one?
i personally prefer 19716 build but you can try both and figure it out. there was no need to open a whole new thread just 4 this question.
It's a perfectly valid question dude.
Like most people I am frustrated by people asking the same questions again and again, but I am concerned that this forum is in danger of heading down a bad road by bashing noobs at every opportunity.
Rabangus said:
It's a perfectly valid question dude.
Like most people I am frustrated by people asking the same questions again and again, but I am concerned that this forum is in danger of heading down a bad road by bashing noobs at every opportunity.
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Yes it's a perfectly valid question to ask in Dutty's thread about his ROM not creating a whole new thread about it.
totally agree.
You could argue this is like asking a parent which one of their kids they like the most!
Best thing is to try both and see which you prefer. There will be advocates for both.
ps don't try that with your kids. it will end you up in jail.
I use each rom on my 2 tilts. I feel that 197 is more stable. 191 sometimes freeze if you push some buttons whil they are booting up. doesn't happen to 197.
No disrespect to anyone here on the board, but Dutty's thread is quickly becoming useless to me. I'm not going to weed through 330+ pages of replies to try to follow a conversation or find a piece of information in there. That thread is quickly becoming it's own universe.
I'm glad this thread was started - It's good information for me that I wouldn't have otherwise found.
Regards,
Jeff
trick420 said:
No disrespect to anyone here on the board, but Dutty's thread is quickly becoming useless to me. I'm not going to weed through 330+ pages of replies to try to follow a conversation or find a piece of information in there. That thread is quickly becoming it's own universe.
I'm glad this thread was started - It's good information for me that I wouldn't have otherwise found.
Regards,
Jeff
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Here's the point....I garuntee if you post in there with a question it will be answered...there's no point in making a new thread....that's all I'm saying.
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Here's the point....I garuntee if you post in there with a question it will be answered...there's no point in making a new thread....that's all I'm saying.
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Posted a question ... no answer.
That thread is bull....
It took me 5 minutes to even find my posting.
The thread might make sense if someone was moderating it ... meaning putting questions into the first post with links to answers. But this? Bull!
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Posted a question ... no answer.
That thread is bull....
It took me 5 minutes to even find my posting.
The thread might make sense if someone was moderating it ... meaning putting questions into the first post with links to answers. But this? Bull!
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Yeah, all threads suffer from this, and I'm also totally agreeing with you, I'm also in the same situation, cannot read hundreds of posts and pages of every ROM thread to find out if it's a suitable one to upgrade to. Trying out so many ROMs until satisfied is not an option for me (ok, I'd admit trying a few, but not every version of every flavour of wm6.1), I want to find one to get rid of my german wm6.0 and have iGo still working, and no issues more than with 6.0.
An updated FAQ in the beginning posts of the respective threads would be useful, but even better, real wiki articles (not just links back to forum threads). Don't want to upset people who discovered the Internet just when these forums where already around, but on mailing lists information and discussions where easier to follow and filter...
Just my 0.2€...
Back to the question: which is the best?
Let me tell you: the new 19716 RTM out to come soon will be the best and fastest ever!!!
I was wondering if the community could trow together a list, possibly on this post of just Manila 2D roms. I'm a noob and would really like one, I just am having trouble finding all I can get my hands on
majority of them have it.....pdaultimate has it
mcjewpants said:
I was wondering if the community could trow together a list, possibly on this post of just Manila 2D roms. I'm a noob and would really like one, I just am having trouble finding all I can get my hands on
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This thread is redundant. Please take time to read the forum rules and read the first few pages of the forum. Almost every rom has m2d in it!
This is just plain laziness on your part--the mods should close the thread.
Like I had sais I am a noob, maybe I'm just not sure exactly what it is I'm looking for, and manila 2d is just in it everytime. Looking for a minimal rom with the touchflo feature for 6.1 and able to use a custom skin. This still may be a broad description of what I want, but like I said, I'm a noob. I wouldn't have asked if I didn't think I needed to
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Like I had sais I am a noob, maybe I'm just not sure exactly what it is I'm looking for, and manila 2d is just in it everytime. Looking for a minimal rom with the touchflo feature for 6.1 and able to use a custom skin. This still may be a broad description of what I want, but like I said, I'm a noob. I wouldn't have asked if I didn't think I needed to
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You don't give yourself enough credit. Being a newbie doesn't mean you have to be lazy, you have the capacity to search and make rational decisions.
search for a Light / Lite rom (both spellings) if you do NOT want M2D, and any of the many ROMs for M2D. Though M2D isn't really considered very "Minimal"
Hello and welcome!
It's advisable when joining a new forum to lurk and read around, especially to get the general 'feel' on the forum society. Each is unique.
You might want to start here (I just joined recently too): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
And don't forget the home page of xda-developers.com. From there you can understand that although layman is welcome to post and get help, this site originates from 'hackers and tweakers' of the XDA for discussing the device and the development. Thus the name XDA Developers. You can read more here: http://www.xda-developers.com/ and quoting moderator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3119575&postcount=10
So, it's best to learn by reading a LOT and then only ask questions, if it's not yet asked before ..
anagarika said:
Hello and welcome!
It's advisable when joining a new forum to lurk and read around, especially to get the general 'feel' on the forum society. Each is unique.
You might want to start here (I just joined recently too): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
And don't forget the home page of xda-developers.com. From there you can understand that although layman is welcome to post and get help, this site originates from 'hackers and tweakers' of the XDA for discussing the device and the development. Thus the name XDA Developers. You can read more here: http://www.xda-developers.com/ and quoting moderator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3119575&postcount=10
So, it's best to learn by reading a LOT and then only ask questions, if it's not yet asked before ..
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There's nothing left for me to say but...
Closed.
Dave
alright i have looked for a while at roms for my kaiser and i was looking for a rom that includes manila but not all of the junk programs that nobody actually uses. just a clean fast rom with manila. please do not say to use the search bar or look through the forums becasue i have several times for hours. this website is great! but it is soo hard to find specific things, please if somebody could help me out i would apreciate it
Well so help define what are the programs that nobody uses! Oh need a definition for nobody as well! And to me M2D is antique and nobody should use it LOL
First off all, you havent searched right, you need to search using the link in my sign! And most of the ROMs out here do tell you what all its in there. So it is up to you to decide what you use and use it.
However if neither satisfies you, then you should cook your own ROM!
Hope this helps!
like the pointless games and stuff... well if manila is ancient wat should i be using on my phone tf3d sucks and is slow, i didnt like win. 6.5 so far becasue it also is too slow... so far manila has been good to me but ill take recomendations
claytonmoore3 said:
like the pointless games and stuff... well if manila is ancient wat should i be using on my phone tf3d sucks and is slow, i didnt like win. 6.5 so far becasue it also is too slow... so far manila has been good to me but ill take recomendations
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Try this it is a very good starting point http://www.ponack.net/abusalza/Ultimate-X.V7.Lite.2G.rar
im using AthineOS new ME release. runs quick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485643
you still souldnt have started a new thread for this, you could have pm'ed some1 this question, or done some more research. people cant be just going around this forum starting new threads everytime he\she has a personal question. thats not what this forum was started for but everyday its the same thing over and over again, more useless threads started cluttering up our forum.
msd24200 said:
you still souldnt have started a new thread for this, you could have pm'ed some1 this question, or done some more research. people cant be just going around this forum starting new threads everytime he\she has a personal question. thats not what this forum was started for but everyday its the same thing over and over again, more useless threads started cluttering up our forum.
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+1 if it's not "what ROM?" it's a question that has nothin to do with ROM's.......
Oh "i need!!!"
stylez said:
+1 if it's not "what ROM?" it's a question that has nothin to do with ROM's.......
Oh "i need!!!"
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+2 this thread does not aid in rom development!!!
I also have a light manilla build u can use if you want.
I think we've assisted, closing thread as new thread for this topic is not needed.