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Spb Software Question?

Hello, After trying out some of the Spb software I want to purchase some of the applications, however I have some questions first.
This are the applications I want to get:
GPRS Monitor
FS Keyboard.
Phone Suite
Mobile Shell
Time
Weather
Pocket Plus
Now the thing is some of these applications overlap, and provide the same or very similar functions.
For example, Pocket Plus, Mobile Shell, and Phone Suite.
In pocket plus I only use the Close button alteration to be able to configure behavior depending on application.
So buying the entire Suite seems silly.
On Mobile Shell I use the Application Launcher and Photo Dialer.
I want to get the Weather and Time application seperatly, so will not use the built in function.
Although I do use the integration of them to have them on the tab, So to see current weather on the Tab.
Last is the Phone suite, on that I use everything except the Photo Dialer since it is built in to Mobile Shell.
But as far as I can see it, buying the pocket Plus and the Mobile shell, seams silly both in terms of Memory usage and Price, when I only use 1 or 2 features of it.
For example I could drop Pocket Plus, if some other application provides the Close button alteration.
Click to Close, Gesture to minimize, and Click and hold for advanced options/Application Switching, and individual settings for applications.
I could use the Phone suite Photo Dialer, but I still use the Tabs from Mobile Shell to integrate Application Launcher/Battery indicator, Time and weather.
I really don't like the type of tabs Pocket plus gives, I like much better the way Mobile Shell does it, with auto hiding and Icons.
Well do you guys have some nice suggestions?
Regards.
Brian.

Well off the top of my heap I can't think of any applications apart from Pocket Plus that offers the close button alterations to the level that you are talking so it’s a very hard one, it's just whether you are willing to pay the extra for a few more features which will make your device extra user friendly. I will see if I can find anything else, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Well, that feature of SPB plus is really nice.
I have some experience in programming in VB, but never for Pocket PC, so was thinking about making one my self if none exists.
But then again I have not used Windows on my Desktop since Windows XP SP2 came out.
And I'm not sure if it is possible to develop Pocket PC applications on Linux.
But I keep my hope up that someone out there has already made an alternative.
I find it really strange that for so long, MS has not implemented it them self, I really sometime wonder if they even use Windows Mobile them self.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283658
Is the HTC X-button app which does the close function correctly. Comes as standard on the Artermis and a few others, but HTC have released this as a seperate app.
Hope this save you some cash as it is also free !

I know the HTC app, However it is far from Advanced enough.
The HTC app changes so that when using the button it closes app instead of hiding.
you can also configure that it closes when push and hold and minimize when only short tap.
However the Spb hack makes it much more advanced.
Tap=Close.
Drag down=Minimize.
Push and Hold=Open a menu to choose what to do (including swithing between applications.
Additionaly it has a very nice feature where you can tell it to always minimize certain applications, instead of closing them.
I use this for Messenger, Core Player and Skype.
Very handy.

Version 1.5 of X-button does all that, you set it up so that you get;
tap = minimize
tap & Hold = Close
Menu on today screen allows for task switching and closing of apps without going into them.
Settings allow for identifying applications which are excluded from x-button.
Also check out the new Version of HTC Home. I used spb mobile shell and phone suite and weather, now I just use this one application, with considerably less of a memory footprint. This is also Free.
Spb software used to be great, but they are lagging behind now in my opinion, and need to stop charging for multiple applications that do overlapping tasks.
HTC Home here
X-Button 1.5 here

Thanks, I will try and have a look at them.
Btw, the link for HTC Home did not work, but found it by doing a search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314241&highlight=HTC+Home

SPB Phone Suite has two major advantages to me: 1. Phone Profiles (switch to vibration while on the meeting and at night) and 2. Photo Dialer.
It does not seem like HTC Home plugin covers those areas.
I wonder if there is another app which can possibly do these two native phone functions better than SPB Phone Suite. So far I don't see alternatives
Well, after some searching I found Photo Contacts PRO 5 http://www.pocketx.net/products/photocontactspro_ppc/index.html but somehow I don't like how it looks. And also it takes too much space of my Today screen which I don't like. Probably I'm going to keep SPB Phone Suite.
Konstantin

konste said:
SPB Phone Suite has two major advantages to me: 1. Phone Profiles (switch to vibration while on the meeting and at night) and 2. Photo Dialer.
It does not seem like HTC Home plugin covers those areas.
Konstantin
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Hmmm, think you should look again, my HTC Home has a home tab, with the clock and missed messages / calls indicators/ buttons, a favourite person tab with space for 9 photo contacts, a weather tab, an application launcher tab, and a phone profile tab with selectable profiles of normal- silent - vibrate only- and automatic (vibrate in meetings)

OK, So I tried t install HTC Home and the HTC X-Button 1.5.
Well the Home plug-in looks very nice!, unfortunatly my device slow with this version.
My rom already has the HTC TaskManager v1.5 which, from as far as I can see on screenshots, have the same functionality as the X-Button 1.5.
But I can't find anywhere to set individual application preferences, and also not the minimize on geasture thing.
But in lack of other, For now, I will proably go with the HTC Taskmanager.
Together with Spb Phone suite and Spb Mobile Shell, at least there is discount when buying multiple products.
Thanks for the advice guys.

HTCHomePlug and task manager app for 750?

Afternoon everyone. I'm a long time HTC Hermes user but have always missed the one-hand of my old Treo 650. So yesterday I picked up a used 750 ($150 not bad). It had WM5 on it so I promptly upgraded it to WM6 with the stock ATT rom.
What I didn't realize is that everything that ran on my Hermes isn't going to run on my Treo. I have two big irritations that I hope someone can clear up for me.
First is with the HTC Home Plugin. The plugin installs and runs fine (along with the HTCCustomize). However its the problem is with the Today screen item called Dialpad Lookup. If I uncheck this item then I lose button functionality, for example hitting the red button to lock and turn off the screen. The only thing I have seen for this is some registry tweaks to let you move the Dialpad Lookup up or down. Any ideas what to do about this?
Second is there is no Task Manager / X to Close instead of Hide program. I tried to install HTC Task Manager a couple times and each time had to Hard reset to defaults. I also tried SPB Pocket Plus, which is what I used on my Hermes, and every time that resulted in neverending lockups and hard resets.
What app are you using to make the X a close (OK button to minimize) and to Task Manage?
Thanks!

I use SPB Pocket Plus on Treo 750v WM6 without any problem...sorry, not much help.

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Hey d00d,
Just got my Treo and been playing with it a bit.
As for HTC Home i use and recommend Touch Commander which simulate the Home Screen and adds some HTC cube capabilities. it's nice though it costs money.
As for the Dial Lookup issue, What i did is Hide the Lookup (Menu --- Preferences --- Hide Lookup field) BUT you have to leave the dial lookup plugin enabled on the today Settings.
Now you will have the Red Button feature without the lookup field on the today screen.
Last thing regarding the task manager, i use tman - the best i've used so far.
You may also like Task Manager in Battery Status plugin - good as well
Hope i helped

qbout task manager
I used magic button and it is free and I think that it is the best.

task manager
I use the 1.5 version of vp3g x button which works on my wife treo. and I have oxios to keep it clean, I however haven't managed to get the htc home going like the one on my hermes

Try WKTask
I've tried all kinds of task managers over the last couple of years that I've had my 750 and the best one I've found is called WKTask. I highly recommend it because not only does it give the X in the corner, but it also gives you the equivalent of a task tray across the top of the screen which allows you to quickly switch from one application to another. It also has a nifty launcher utility. Go to the site and check it out:
http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
I am in no way associated or affiliated with the product, I just really dig it and it's free too. It may seem a little complicated at first, but it's easier than you think and worth the effort to learn the capabilities.
Andrew

If you upgrade to WM6.1 it finally includes a task manager and all you have to do is hold down the "ok" button and the task manager appears.

The task manager is included since WM5 and if I remember it correct since WM2003, new is that it is available from the ok-button (I think this is palm-specific).
I use wisbar lite, not free, but easy to use and also with the buttons of all apps on top and You can configure it to close every app with the "X" instead of minimizing it.
Available from
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/

abs99 said:
I've tried all kinds of task managers over the last couple of years that I've had my 750 and the best one I've found is called WKTask. I highly recommend it because not only does it give the X in the corner, but it also gives you the equivalent of a task tray across the top of the screen which allows you to quickly switch from one application to another. It also has a nifty launcher utility. Go to the site and check it out:
http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
I am in no way associated or affiliated with the product, I just really dig it and it's free too. It may seem a little complicated at first, but it's easier than you think and worth the effort to learn the capabilities.
Andrew
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I'm glad it works on square screen, because it's truly the most important utility on my TyTN.

post it note application

does any one know if there is an applciation for wm6 (touch dual) were i can write a note and it will display a post it note type thing on the front screen ? unlike the calander or tasks i want it to take up a large part of the screen so i dont miss it. ii remeber having this on my ericsson k800 and it was a great little feature !
one thing though, i dont want it part of the homescreen, when i use it, i just want it to appear there overlapping the existing items on the today screen..if thats even possible.
thanks
tas

something like this?
http://www.explorepda.com/productdetail.php?pid=1257&OS=PocketPC
a little pricey though.
this is the one i use: notestoday
http://notestoday.en.softonic.com/pocket
if you'll notice the requirements, it says ppc 2002, 2003, 2003se only. but i have an athena (x7500) with an upgraded rom (wm6) and it works great.
i like it because when you write something, you can "hide" the note by toggling the icon. of you can simply leave it there for you to see anytime you activate your unit.
hope that helps

thanks robson, i like the look of notestoday and the fact you can hide it !! i think thats exactly what im looking for, will give it a try !
tas

hope it helps. the hide function is actually good because when you don't need the app you can "minimize" it. but when you need to be reminded of a note, simply scroll on the area and it'll stick there. when you turn your unit back on, the note is still on the today screen. and i like the fact that in "minimize" or "hide" mode, it saves you today space allowing you to add more items.
cheers

where do i begin? trying to find the right plugin for TP2

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Deafcyclist said:
I've just gotten the AT&T Tilt2 this Dec 31 and I have been trying to figure out how to really customize the today themes. however, because nearly everyone here uses cooked roms, i just can't seem to figure out how to find plugins that can work with stock winMO 6.5 on my Tilt2. I have a few particular things I would like to set for my today themes but I need to learn even the very basic of the themes on my Tilt2 first, such as TouchFLO 3D. but what do I call the window default? so far I think it's titanium? and what about the even older looking theme that I see when I don't have either the "titanium" and TouchFLO 3D?
Basically I want easy view (or access) of the weather forecast, time, agenda, task, and messages (combined SMS, MMS, and e-mails). I would also love to be able to launch select few apps from there.
How do I go about setting this up when I do not even know how to find out all of the relevant info I needs? (believe me, I've tried to use the search functions but i can't seem to find any newbie-friendly explanations).
Sorry if I seem to be cluttering up this subforum, but I really really want to figure out how to set this up so I can truly use my tilt2 efficiently in this way in preparation for my next semester at college.
Thanks for any and all info.
P.S. I know that I will be suggested to go ahead and try to flash some roms into this tilt2 but i would rather find out of these plugin first so I can be sure that I would have all of the functionality without having to do that if I can.
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Welcome to the forums!
TouchFlo and Titanium are today plugins.
This means that when you siable them both, you get the standard WinMo today screen.
You can disable them by going into start/settings/today. There you can disable the items you don't want.
To have more plugins for titanium, you can go here. There you can find various extra plugins, like weather.
For TouchFlo, there aren't any plugins.
I hope this helps, if you have got more questions you may always PM me.
And next time, ask questions in the Q&A section. I know that forum gets less attention but we need to keep this section clean for themes only. Thanks.
Cheers,
EC

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Okay no problem, just next time.
As I said you can revert to the old standard windows mobile home by going to start/settings/personal/today/items and uncheck Titanium and Touchflo.
I don't know any standard home plugins, because I never used it.
If you deleted plug-ins you will need to hard-reset your Tilt2, or find a download somewhere.
EC

Moved to Q&A as not release.

You can use standard plugins. As was already said, just uncheck windows default and TF3D from today settings, and select whatever you want. I use Tonaya weather-2-go, Skyfire, Pocket Digital Clock, PDA Status, and SK T oday Commander (paid for). A lot of the freeware sites have many choices. I recommend PDA Status, it's really nice.
Anyway, I kind of agree with you on the UI's. I like having things in one place, and don't like having to scroll all over the place. If you're bored, you can check my sig and see how I have mine set up (don't flash it, though).

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Frustrated
OK, I'm frustrated as hell trying to get some decent plug ins for my new phone. Just got a new Tilt 2, and really, really like the titanium weather plug in look, but cannot get it to operate on the phone. Am I missing something? The options for the today screen do not change after I install titanium weather (showaco, tried both of his v4.1 and 4.2 cabs), but a weather line shows up in the Windows default today screen. However, every time I try to get it set up, it gives me an error, essentially
(OK, I can't post a link (not trying to), but in the following, the xxxx was actually http)
'xxxx://hadle.accu-weather.com/widget/hadle/weather-data.asp?location=62002&metric=0' couldn't be opened.
also
Line 1 (\Program Files\TitaniumWeather\TitaniumWeather.mscr):link=ReadFile("xxxx://hadle.accu-weather.com/widget/hadle/weather-data.asp?location=&location&"&metric="&metric)
So, what am I missing, or am I installing an incorrect program? I'm brand new to any of this, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Dale

[Kaiser][Custom ROM WM6.5] Getting universal pseudoGUI support center to work

I'm sorry that the topic isn't clear, but I don't know how the thing I want to ask about is called. I've tried many keywords in assotiation with site:xda-developers.com on google and didn't find what I wanted to get.
I'm using prepaid polish network called simplus, one can change alot on his account by using many short codes like *100#, after which SMS is sent to the phone with needed info, or a service is activated/deactivated.
But code *110# should enter interactive thing, which simplus calls ebok. It works even on very old phones with color display, not sure about monochrome, and I'm sure it worked on Tytn2's(Kaiser) original rom.
It's summons white windows/square that has written
"1. something
2. something else
3. something else
etc."
and below there is usual WM field for input, one writes the input and after a second another window opens with new options. It's somehow managed by short codes or short code makros, I'm not sure how to call it.
It makes managing account very easy and should be independent to system, but right now all I get is
"Command sent..."
and then "session terminated" after looong while.
I remember that it didn't work on SPV classic as well. Did work on SPV C600.
I have installed custom bare rom by Witschey, but I believe it's better to ask her, because there's probably many roms on which it doesn't work,
SPB mobile shell 3.5.3(which I for tests turned off) with MobileSense 3.5.2.20091229
SMS-chat that I turned off, but I sed default SMS client to SMS-chat instead of tmail.exe so clicking on icon in SPB gets me straight to SMS-chat(I turned off SMS-chat when trying it, but it was still default SMS client)
and S2U2 2.22.
All other apps weren't running when I was trying it out.
I believe that there's probably some strange cab I have to install for it to work. I probably would find the answer myself if I knew how the system is called, but other than ebok or e-bok I didn't find any other name for it.