So I'd like the experts to weigh in on this one: I'm pretty sure I'm getting the Touch Pro but I'd like to know the pros/cons of going the sprint route vs. the AT&T route. Do the same cooked roms on this site work on both, or only on the GSM (AT&T) version of the phone? Do people find the CDMA network faster/slower than the GSM network for Data (i.e. how do their 3G speeds compare). What other features might be different? And I know there's been some confusion on release dates but has that been cleared up at all?
...Part of me wants to wait and see if the Touch HD Pro will come out (HD w/ QWERTY) but I don't know if I can wait that long, and if it's only released for Europe w/out US 3G that'd suck...
Thanks all for your help!
I'd also like to see a good summary of the differences with the 2 providers. I'm probably going to be leaving Verizon for this phone.
I'd also read that the Touch HD would not be released in the US - so I'm pretty much counting on the Touch Pro.
jumping along with this one
Somebody can give more details, but I can still pitch in a little bit.
I'm from Canada so I can't really pitch in for pros/con for T-Mobile/AT&T. One advice is to get a real good look at the 3G coverage because ultimately that can be a big factor depending where you live/go.
From what I read, I wouldn't hold my breath for the HD, apparently it's currently not planned for North America. One with a keyboard is even a longer shot because of it's size, making it thicker would pretty much make it a huge phone, don't know if there's a big market for that.
As for the ROM, I saw that Elite Team is talking about making a CDMA rom, but in this forum, you will find much more GSM material. I believe that the North America user are not a huge proportion of the user base, so it explains why most of the talk is revolving around GSM.
Hope this helps a bit in your decision, overall the TP is very nice and I think the custom ROMs in this forum can make it a greater phone!
That definitely helps - If it makes a difference in terms of which service would be better, i live in the NYC area and so getting the coverage on either network wouldn't be an issue. I've heard good things about the sprint high speed network, but haven't used their service in like 5yrs, so have no idea if they've gotten better or worse since then.
In any case, the features of each phone look pretty comparable. It's not like the sprint phone will have some sort of killer app that the AT&T version wouldn't have.
I guess time will tell once people actually start using these and comparing notes on them. Is "Sprint TV" anything? I know that comes with the sprint version but have no idea what it is.
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That definitely helps - If it makes a difference in terms of which service would be better, i live in the NYC area and so getting the coverage on either network wouldn't be an issue. I've heard good things about the sprint high speed network, but haven't used their service in like 5yrs, so have no idea if they've gotten better or worse since then.
In any case, the features of each phone look pretty comparable. It's not like the sprint phone will have some sort of killer app that the AT&T version wouldn't have.
I guess time will tell once people actually start using these and comparing notes on them. Is "Sprint TV" anything? I know that comes with the sprint version but have no idea what it is.
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sprint tv is tv on the go u get channels like nfl network , disney, and cnn live,but most of the channels arent live just clips and stuff...the only difference i see with them is the fuze took away the number row and replaced it with symbols, as far as networks i dont know whos is better, but sprints $15 data plan comes with sprint tv and you get 3g with att u have the pay for internet then if u want 3g then u have to pay a extra $10, but that mite just be for the iphone
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I believe that the North America user are not a huge proportion of the user base, so it explains why most of the talk is revolving around GSM.
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I take offense to you lumping me, a GSM user, in with the likes of Verizon and Sprint.
A co-worker of mine has the Vogue (CDMA Touch) on Verizon, and it's total BS what you have to go through when you flash a new radio or ROM to the device. Verizon uses something called an "A-Key" to authenticate you to their data network, and that key is wiped out on radio flashes (sometimes ROM flashes), so you constantly have to call Verizon to have them resend you a key to allow data connections (ALL data, not just ICS) to work.
...and Sprint has registry keys built into their ROMs to prevent ICS from working. Admittedly, this annoyance has a much easier workaround that Verizon's, but it's still BS.
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...with att u have the pay for internet then if u want 3g then u have to pay a extra $10, but that mite just be for the iphone
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AT&T has several different data packages available, and the device you have determines your choices, but all of them connect to 3G without additional fees.
Att All The Way!
As an owner of the FUZE. I can tell you I love this phone. The ATT version will a little different because it’s GSM. Forget the TV that any device comes with and get a Sling Box.
- Change your SIM to a cheap phone when you go Drinking or to the beach or overseas!
- Video Share, although not used a lot I use it and love it!
- Push To Talk, Again not really used a lot but its there.
Wow I sound like I work for ATT or something!
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As an owner of the FUZE. I can tell you I love this phone. The ATT version will a little different because it’s GSM. Forget the TV that any device comes with and get a Sling Box.
- Change your SIM to a cheap phone when you go Drinking or to the beach or overseas!
- Video Share, although not used a lot I use it and love it!
- Push To Talk, Again not really used a lot but its there.
Wow I sound like I work for ATT or something!
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definetly like being able to pop the sim in a crappy phone
wich my 8525 will be soon enough
The other thing to remember is Sprint is really struggling right now and may not be around much longer. If you do travel anywhere outside of the US and want to take your phone, you will want GSM. Just my 2 cents.
Sprint is better in my opinion
sprint evdo rev a is $15/month which is the fastest mobile speed you can get in the US, versus ATT 3G $30/month which much slower (i have compared a mogul versus 3g iphone, and the mogul(ppc-6800) is reasonably faster)
sprint $15 unlimited texting
ATT $20 unlimited texting
this all comes down to what your friends have?, because if you talk alot and your friends/family has att, then just go with them since mobile to mobile is unlimited and vice versa if you have sprint friends/family.
also, the previous poster is correct in the sense that sprint is obviously not good outside the US and for switching phones all the time.
sprint is using a dying technology (cdma) but at this time, there is no denying that it is the fastest data in U.S. and sprint has alot of coverage nation wide.
i think it will be a couple of years before CDMA is completely out of the picture and anyone buying the touch pro will on to their next phone at that point.
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sprint evdo rev a is $15/month which is the fastest mobile speed you can get in the US, versus ATT 3G $30/month which much slower (i have compared a mogul versus 3g iphone, and the mogul(ppc-6800) is reasonably faster)
sprint $15 unlimited texting
ATT $20 unlimited texting
this all comes down to what your friends have?, because if you talk alot and your friends/family has att, then just go with them since mobile to mobile is unlimited and vice versa if you have sprint friends/family.
also, the previous poster is correct in the sense that sprint is obviously not good outside the US and for switching phones all the time.
sprint is using a dying technology (cdma) but at this time, there is no denying that it is the fastest data in U.S. and sprint has alot of coverage nation wide.
i think it will be a couple of years before CDMA is completely out of the picture and anyone buying the touch pro will on to their next phone at that point.
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i agree with basically everything you said. The phones are basically the same, and flashing sprint phones doesn't take anything special besides making sure the Rom/Kitchen is designed for Sprint. Which most of the ones on ppcgeeks.com are on sprint first anyways sometimes only sprint.
but if you do international traveling I would definitely get the ATT version, just so all you have to do is pop in a different SIM card.
But ultimately it just comes down to which plan you can get for cheaper I'd say, like for the same minutes/data.
I travel a lot. Several times a week, and both nationally and internationally.
I use the Kaiser on ATT, and unless I am out in the middle of God's country (like, say, Carroll Iowa... don't ask), I find 3G and H all over.
I haven't used Sprint in forever.... but, as far as data goes, ATT seems to have pretty great coverage.
Making it simple:
Sprint
+Cheaper plans
+slightly better up/down speeds (especially factoring in the iphone factor)
-Harder to Flash (?, based on what's said here)
AT&T
+Usable internationally
+Easier to flash (again, based on whats said here)
-Data more expensive unless you lie to AT&T about your device (possibly causing a huge bill someday)
-Data speeds a bit slower
beyond that I couldn't say much more that isn't placebo or really effected by too many other factors... Traditionally Sprint phones will use more power then their GSM counterparts.. but there's a lotta factors involved in this issue
Also, with the Sprint CDMA network you don't get the annoying sound of speakers freaking out when you walk around and your phone does things in your pocket, unlike the AT&T GSM network.
Although if you like to be a pain, you may prefer the speaker interference caused by GSM phones.
Yeah, i have the 3G iPhone now and it is always making speakers freak out. It's especially annoying in meetings when there is a conferance phone with speakers near all of the seats. I have to leave my phone at my desk! Not to mention the 9 billion dropped calls i get with this damn thing!
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Yeah, i have the 3G iPhone now and it is always making speakers freak out. It's especially annoying in meetings when there is a conferance phone with speakers near all of the seats. I have to leave my phone at my desk! Not to mention the 9 billion dropped calls i get with this damn thing!
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if you turn the data off the speakers shouldnt be affected unless a text comes in
I read somewhere that verizon wireless is also going to carry the touch pro.
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I read somewhere that verizon wireless is also going to carry the touch pro.
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yes this has been known
but it isnt really in teh same league since they are cutting the processor and ram and also removing the tilt sensor
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Yeah, i have the 3G iPhone now and it is always making speakers freak out.
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It's half true only.
The noise which you hear through speaker only appears when you're in GSM/GPRS/EDGE mode but not in 3G UMTS/HSDPA mode. Furthermore, all GSM phones on any carrier all around the world will do the same.
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Hi, I am currently a AT&T Tilt user on AT&T, and I'm looking forward to upgrading to the Touch Pro when it comes out. I've heard and looked into the AT&T Fuse, but I think I am going to over to Sprint to get the Touch Pro despite an early termination fee. When I look at the plans offered by Sprint, AT&T can't touch them. I was looking at the shared plans offered by Sprint, and I can get 3000 minutes with unlimited text and data (including Sprint TV...) on three lines for only $190 a month. Plus, with my sister's employee discount, I'll get a 13% discount, taking it down to $165 a month. AT&T can't even come close to matching that. Is there any reason why I shouldn't switch?
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Hi, I am currently a AT&T Tilt user on AT&T, and I'm looking forward to upgrading to the Touch Pro when it comes out. I've heard and looked into the AT&T Fuse, but I think I am going to over to Sprint to get the Touch Pro despite an early termination fee. When I look at the plans offered by Sprint, AT&T can't touch them. I was looking at the shared plans offered by Sprint, and I can get 3000 minutes with unlimited text and data (including Sprint TV...) on three lines for only $190 a month. Plus, with my sister's employee discount, I'll get a 13% discount, taking it down to $165 a month. AT&T can't even come close to matching that. Is there any reason why I shouldn't switch?
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The one reason for me is all about quality of network. I am with T-Mo in the US, simply because at a mile above sea level (sometimes two miles when riding my bike in the mountains), a lot of the other providers have several dead spots. I work for a competitor, and won't leave T-Mo for my employee discount simply due to the network offerings of the other providers.
To each their own...but almost all providers offer comperable "Unlimited" programs here in the States. Not sure how that is globally though.
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The one reason for me is all about quality of network. I am with T-Mo in the US, simply because at a mile above sea level (sometimes two miles when riding my bike in the mountains), a lot of the other providers have several dead spots. I work for a competitor, and won't leave T-Mo for my employee discount simply due to the network offerings of the other providers.
To each their own...but almost all providers offer comperable "Unlimited" programs here in the States. Not sure how that is globally though.
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your in the minority with T mo i had em for years and they had the most dead spots ever. i have a phone with verizon and att now they both work 100 times better then t mo did but it all depends where you live
and only problem for me with sprint is the customer serivice its awful no one can deny that
Another thing to seriously consider is that the Fuze is a GSM phone vs. the Sprint's Pro is CDMA.... basically, you can use the Fuze anywhere in the world that uses SIM cards [which is basically any place on the planet assuming you get the phone SIM unlocked].
On the other hand, if you're not the world traveler or don't intend to do any traveling abroad, go with the Sprint
Just my 2cents
Some other differences.... AT&T has MMS and Video MMS... Basicly REAL MMS where Sprint does not. You can get the MMS working with Sprint... I think the file is called sMMS or something but its not the same. Now on the other hand, The Sprint REV-A is ALOT faster than AT&T's 3G in the USA... So streaming video will be better and any data related items. And ofcoarse, AT&T has way better coverage in the US... Personally, I like GSM phones better... Switch out your SIM whenever to any other phone... World use.. And the fact that you will have a wider sellection of phones/PDA Phones to choose from although Sprint has been coming out with some better than average phones theses days but who knows how long they will even last.. I know their stock is not doing good and I have heard of maybe some buy-outs so thats never good... <--- There is the final reason... Stability!
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Some other differences.... AT&T has MMS and Video MMS... Basicly REAL MMS where Sprint does not. You can get the MMS working with Sprint... I think the file is called sMMS or something but its not the same. Now on the other hand, The Sprint REV-A is ALOT faster than AT&T's 3G in the USA... So streaming video will be better and any data related items. And ofcoarse, AT&T has way better coverage in the US... Personally, I like GSM phones better... Switch out your SIM whenever to any other phone... World use.. And the fact that you will have a wider sellection of phones/PDA Phones to choose from although Sprint has been coming out with some better than average phones theses days but who knows how long they will even last.. I know their stock is not doing good and I have heard of maybe some buy-outs so thats never good... <--- There is the final reason... Stability!
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ATT has HSDPA which is much faster then Rev A
and the instinct is Rev A and its internet speed sucks video sucks so dont count on it
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Some other differences.... AT&T has MMS and Video MMS... Basicly REAL MMS where Sprint does not. You can get the MMS working with Sprint... I think the file is called sMMS or something but its not the same. Now on the other hand, The Sprint REV-A is ALOT faster than AT&T's 3G in the USA... So streaming video will be better and any data related items. And ofcoarse, AT&T has way better coverage in the US... Personally, I like GSM phones better... Switch out your SIM whenever to any other phone... World use.. And the fact that you will have a wider sellection of phones/PDA Phones to choose from although Sprint has been coming out with some better than average phones theses days but who knows how long they will even last.. I know their stock is not doing good and I have heard of maybe some buy-outs so thats never good... <--- There is the final reason... Stability!
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According to what I've been seeing regarding MMS, the Diamond and the Touch Pro (Sprint CDMA versions) will both have MMS.
That being said, I think it really depends on what is most important. Data plan and internet connectivity are very important for my job, so that is higher priority over call quality. I'm with Sprint and there are SO many dead spots that I hit (even in spots that aren't supposed to have any). AT&T service area seems to be better (based on comparison with some of my cousins).
Aside from that, the main 2 reasons I've stuck with Sprint for so long are the internet connectivity and the unlimited sprint to sprint (since majority of my family is on Sprint). Other than those, I probably would've left Sprint a long time ago.
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According to what I've been seeing regarding MMS, the Diamond and the Touch Pro (Sprint CDMA versions) will both have MMS.
That being said, I think it really depends on what is most important. Data plan and internet connectivity are very important for my job, so that is higher priority over call quality. I'm with Sprint and there are SO many dead spots that I hit (even in spots that aren't supposed to have any). AT&T service area seems to be better (based on comparison with some of my cousins).
Aside from that, the main 2 reasons I've stuck with Sprint for so long are the internet connectivity and the unlimited sprint to sprint (since majority of my family is on Sprint). Other than those, I probably would've left Sprint a long time ago.
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Where did you hear that they will support MMS out of the box..? Because I have seen so many PPC phones with this feature taken out. I would assume it would be part of the SMS app as the current unlocked touch pro is but I really cant see them enabling this as it has been a GSM feature only for as long as I can remember for PPC. Also, even if added, the Sprint servers block it as tested with other PPC phones for Sprint.
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ATT has HSDPA which is much faster then Rev A
and the instinct is Rev A and its internet speed sucks video sucks so dont count on it
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Sure about that in the US..? I have a mogul from Sprint and my buddy has the treo 800 and both blow away the speed on my tytn II when in a 3g area. I'm pretty sure at&t limits its bandwidth and now with the 3g iphone suckin it up, at&t has never been slower!
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Where did you hear that they will support MMS out of the box..? Because I have seen so many PPC phones with this feature taken out. I would assume it would be part of the SMS app as the current unlocked touch pro is but I really cant see them enabling this as it has been a GSM feature only for as long as I can remember for PPC. Also, even if added, the Sprint servers block it as tested with other PPC phones for Sprint.
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On PPCgeeks, look at the Diamond's manual. Read page 149 or something like that, and it talks about MMS... As far as past and future phones:
Sprint Diamond manual
The Picture Mail app will be available for ACE, 6800, 6900, Q9C, 800W as downloadable client arround mid Oct08.
All future WM devices will have it embeded starting with the Diamond launch. But you need a plan including the service.
And the BB Pearl as well as the Curve should get it too with the right plan.
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network comparison
I have made it somewhat of a passion to prove to myself what others say about network speed:
I have access to ATT, Verizon and Sprint and in the past Tmobile
I have tried to test in as many place possible
Your location is the most key thing, in other words you really need to see what network is stronger. While travelling through many rural areas Sprint is often useless but in more metropolitan they are often more comparable BUT that varies even in areas like Southern California.
What I can assure you is that Sprint Rev A , although some say it can be (even thier ads) is not faster than ATT 3G with HSPDA. They are very comparable in many side by sides and I think any differences are due to a particular network being crowded or not.
As many have said , if you travel overseas then definitely go with ATT.
If you like gadgets but occasionally work in the garden or go out to dinner and don't want the PDA the ATT or GSM phones allow you to pop the SIM out of your pda and into your smaller phone.
Lastly, rarely mentioned (confirmed during recent conversation with Sprint tech support) is that if you are in side by side good service and dial a number you will notice the Sprint phone connecting immediatley and a slight delay with the ATT gsm phone. That is because the networks are different in how they stay in communication with the towers. The down side for this is that in fringe areas you will find the CDMA (Sprint) phone have a much quicker battery drain in that fringe condition because it is fighting to maintain that connection! all of this is my experience but was confirmed by some tech guys recently as I tried a Treo 800
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On PPCgeeks, look at the Diamond's manual. Read page 149 or something like that, and it talks about MMS... As far as past and future phones:
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WOW, Thats cool. Although I guess the d/l content to enable will be nothing more than a reg edit as my buddy look into the reg for the 800w and saw a section that said MMS enable and changed it from '0' to '1' and the palm sms app included then had the MMS option. Thats GREAT to hear!
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WOW, Thats cool. Although I guess the d/l content to enable will be nothing more than a reg edit as my buddy look into the reg for the 800w and saw a section that said MMS enable and changed it from '0' to '1' and the palm sms app included then had the MMS option. Thats GREAT to hear!
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Correct, but to a certain extent. I really think there's going to be a small download to add the graphics for that option to the phone as well as enable it in the registry. I also think there might be a few extra things it needs to add to the phone to function correctly, but I'm sure it will be something a ROM update will include or a small download from sprints URL to some where.... IDK.. Only time will tell....
I am currently without contract and I'm considering upgrading to the touch pro 2. I am seeing that there are differences between the t-mobile and sprint versions such as a 3.5 jack in the sprint version. Assuming plans and coverage are all equal what's the better phone?
I have some specific questions.
Is the FM radio disabled on all carriers or just verizon?
Do cooked roms work on CDMA or just GSM versions?
Is the gps unlocked on them? I have OnCourse and have no intention of paying a monthly fee for gps.
Does Interent Sharing work through the regular data plan on sprint and verizon like it does on t-mobile or do I have to pay extra?
Are there any other known differences in the phone between carriers.
I am most seriously considering Sprint and T-Mobile so if people have any Carrier specific comments other then plan pricing and coverage because those can be looked up. I am just trying to avoid a carrier war, this is about the phone versions not which is the best carrier.
from what I have read up on:
FM radio is missing some stuff to work on the CDMA versions, the GSM just needs the program installed.
Cooked roms are working for the GSM versions, the HardSPL unlocker has not been made for the CDMA versions. So, no for CDMA.
I do not think GPS is locked. I'm using Garmin on mine.
As for internet sharing, i think this is at the discretion of the carrier. If you're doing like gigs and gigs a month, they might frown upon that.
And for the differences, visual? the 3.5mm jack and the battery cover is different.
I'm on Sprint.
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Assuming plans and coverage are all equal what's the better phone?
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That's a fairly big assumption.
Can you add an unlimited data for $15 a month for any basic plan on both?
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Assuming plans and coverage are all equal what's the better phone?
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Ummmmm...... you'd be hard pressed to find someone that agrees with that.
IMHO coverage is everything, and in my area Verizon wins hands down! Same with call quality and data performance.
But this is where people will have differing opinions. I like to think of Sprint as the "I will never, ever, ever leave the city plan"
Let me rephrase. It's not that all carriers are equal but depending on how you use your phone and where you live one carrier may be better for one person than another. I wanted this to be a discussion about the differences in the phones and CDMA vs GSM not that sprint has the best 3g coverage, tmobile has the cheapest plan, verizon has the clearest reception, or at&t has the fastest 3g network (these are not facts or opinions I am just using them as examples). Personaly for where I live and how I use the phone I am considering two carriers.
1. FM Radio only works with tmo so far. probably we will get it for cdma, but not guarantee.
2. HardSPL is not out for CDMA yet so no custom roms yet, but this WILL happen. just give it a few weeks.
3. GPS is not locked on Sprint. I don't know about the others...
4. I agree with superX10. share your internet (we have a great app that turns your phone into a wifi router!) its free. you way over do it and the carrier is going to want some money. I think this will be the same regardless of carrier.
5. Visual: they all look slightly different. Not a big deal to me, but something might bother you. I don't think tmo has a 3.5mm headphone jack (correct me if i'm wrong). This means you need a converter & you can't charge and use headphones at same time.
Personally, none of these things are deal breakers. CDMA actually has a GSM sim card also, so if this gets unlocked there is a potential for it to be really versatile for you. I wouldn't worry about the differences and go with the carrier gives you best service for the best price. For me it is sprint and I can't think of a reason to regret it. yet.....
dont bother
I wouldn't bother considering any of the phone's features right now. Go 100% for the network. The CDMA will be open soon enough and you wont be able to tell the difference between the two.
new to android... currently using N1 on att edge... contemplating a switch to Tmobile... latest "speed tests" by PC World show ATT as a clear leader for download speeds, plus they have better spectrum and in my exp. allow better penetration though walls. I live in seattle but travel to many major cities on east coast... anyone offer any suggestions with their exp with Tmob vs. ATT? How biased is Pcworld?
My goal is the use the N1 on ATT until they get a proper android device... couple months I hope, or do I switch now and save the trouble...any advice would be appreciated
tmobile and att both have their ups and down
but tmobile now clearly has AMAZINGLY BETTER unlimited min data and text plans for a very low low LOW price
check it out
not a tmobile rep lol
just a very long time tmo user
and tmo's 3g aint that bad
i dont notice any problems with it
thanks for the reply
yeah im aware of the potential $$ savings, however for me that is not the case...im more looking into who will provide the best speeds/least amount of hassle over the next year or so...i have few friends who work at ATT store who are managers, and I can always get anything done to my account I need to...
I understand Tmobile has "great" service, but my experience with them both online and in the stores has been horrible. The sales reps Ive spoken with at several stores have been sorely uninformed and have outright lied to my (by making up answers that are not true about many things, so probably not malicious lies but if you dont know TELL ME!). The latest episode was when a sales rep told me that they would be carrying the HTC Desire in April, and that It will have a physical keyboard and dual core processor!
in my area, as posted by pcworld, ATT completely smokes tmobile in average DL speeds (1400vs 900)... plus im able to pay $60 a month right now and have everything i need..granted i am stuck on att edge with my n1, but its not as bad as i thought...my plan was to keep the phone until att finally got one, but their whole "backflip" ordeal has left me concerned with their openness to google... I love my N1, even the trackball, and would be hard pressed to pick a desire over it... Im rambling now so Ill stop, but last point is that i would have to cancel my att contract, which at only $175 isnt that bad, considering i just last month bought a 3gs for $220 and sold it for $530...
T-Mo this summer is going to smoke AT&T as the fastest 3g network.But as far as coverage AT&T is a little better,plus is true that lower frequency is better penetrating to buildings,that's one problem i'm dealing now with T-Mo,but the price is right,so I guess at the end you have to look for the best one for your needs.
tmobile plans
just talked with a very knowledgeable Tmobile reap... apparently seattle is #11 to receive fiber upgrades, and will receive HSPA+ around may 18th... of course this is all hearsay... they will also be selling HD2s for BOGO $199 contract... amazing deal... very nice phone, they had one today I was able to play with. Perfect size for me... just waiting for a more perfect android port and ill make the switch from nexus one...
just ported my number to tmobile today...hopefully i wont be disappointed
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just talked with a very knowledgeable Tmobile reap... apparently seattle is #11 to receive fiber upgrades, and will receive HSPA+ around may 18th... of course this is all hearsay... they will also be selling HD2s for BOGO $199 contract... amazing deal... very nice phone, they had one today I was able to play with. Perfect size for me... just waiting for a more perfect android port and ill make the switch from nexus one...
just ported my number to tmobile today...hopefully i wont be disappointed
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Did you talk to a rep online? Or was it a friend or something? I would LOVE to have some more info on St. Louis expansion further southward and any other plans in the area. I'm currently on AT&T about 10 miles outside T-Mo's 3G bubble. I have AT&T 3G since last October, but am using an ADP1, since my unlocked Roger's Dream broke. I think I am going to switch to T-Mo when I get my free Nexus, but I would love to have 3G.
Anyway, the point is where'd you get the info, and if you can find out anything about St. Louis from that rep (if its in person, if not tell me its online I'll try some more).
K thx bye
Lol just playin, but thanks. Please let me know
Here in vegas t-mo 3g speeds are better then AT&T so TMo was the clear choice for me. The fastest 3g speeds in town here though are with verizon
We tested using 4 phones:
Tmobile G1
Tmobile MyTouch 3g
Verizon Blackberry
At&T Iphone
The results were pretty staggering:
Tmobile G1 - 970kbps
Tmobile MyTouch 3g - 1023 kbps
Verizon Blackberry - 1876 kbps
At&T Iphone - 200 kbps
Funny noone mentioned sprint. You, being number for reliability and all that.
T-Mobile FTW!
I live in the Bay Area and I have done several speed test all over with both an iPhone 3GS and Nexus One. For the most part AT&T gets around 1400-2400 kbps down and about 200-300 kbps up with a 1000-3000ms ping. T-Mobile gets about 1000-1500 kbps down and 300-600 kbps up with a 60-100ms ping. In most cases AT&T does get slightly faster speeds and has more 3G coverage but is not as reliable. Sometimes the data connection disappears or takes forever to start loading. Once both phone do start loading there isn't much difference loading web sites. As far as downloading files AT&T is slightly faster but doesn't seem to have the bandwidth that T-Mobile when downloading multiple files at the same time. I used to be a long time customer of AT&T but got fed up paying $100/month for data/texting/voice and getting unreliable data service where I work (Financial District - San Francisco). Personally I would recommend that anyone who is on the fence to go with T-Mobile. They don't have perfect service but for the price its a much better value than AT&T. I haven't had any problems or issues besides a few select areas with poor 3G reception since I have switched to T-Mobile.
Cities tested:
Concord/Walnut Creek Area: Both worked really well. AT&T what quite a bit faster in speed tests but loading regular web sites was about the same.
Marin: AT&T = Good - Some areas get dropped calls and no 3G | T-Mobile works good as well. Some areas get poor reception for 3G and Edge | Speeds are about the same... AT&T is slightly faster. (Lots of testing)
Pleasonton: Both worked really well. (Limited testing)
San Francisco: AT&T = Horrible... didn't work at all in my building with full 3G | T-Mobile works great... works perfect in the same place AT&T didn't | Speeds are about the same... when AT&T works.
Vallejo: About the same as Marin.
Hope this helps,
- Victor
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Funny noone mentioned sprint. You, being number for reliability and all that.
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The reason is that OP has a GSM device and Sprint is CDMA...
T-Mobile because AT&T network is lame. They actually told their iFail users to don't use internet as much because of their weak ass network and they are locking down their android phones so T-Mobile wins of course.
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Ok Ok I know location plays a huge part in this but let me say this, AT&T is 100% trash compared to Tmobile (based on New Jersey), They pay millions to say they cover 97% of US and they have the fastest 3G in the US. When? 8 Years AGO? I did a test with my friends iphone 3GS (new Jersey) with an app called SPEEDTEST, also did the same test (SAME PLACE MY HOUSE NJ) with the same exact APP SPEED TEST on my nexus one,
Results
Iphone3GS AT&T = 99kbits/sec (test was done 2 times each.) Similar results he was pinging about 4000-5000
Nexus one Tmobile = 1,740Kbits/sec (test was done 2 times each.) Similar results I was pinging about 88=97
I then tested my 2G (same place + same app) = 210kbits/s
This means my 2g was faster than his so called 3G, funny thing is, his iphone 3GS doesnt even say when its on Edge or 3G, My nexus one says when its on Edge (2G), 3G Or HSPDA (which I'm on all day HSPDA full bars in NJ). DO NOT FORGET HOW TRAFFIC IMPACTS A NETWORK, it's horrible. You are paying more, you have worse call quality (both network and phone) considering the 2 microphones of the N1 and clarity of Tmobile. So you pay more? Do less, both apple and AT&T limit you, and you have the nerve to compare? Apple is ditching AT&T for few reasons, 1 of them being 30% dropped calls in major cities, and allowing android phones (better phones) than Iphone on their exclusive network.
My point? Why the hell would you pay more and get less? Not only get less, but slower, and sloppier? The comparison boggles my mind, Maybe Tmobile doens't cover as much, this is a fact as well, but man check their coverage map and see if its available in your area, because it's way better in every possible way.
My plan is 500 minutes with everything else unlimited (mobile to mobile, text, data, weekends, nights) Most the people I speak with have tmobile, so I never even go past 200 minutes ever. This costs me 65.34 a month after taxes and I use my nexus one every hour of the day literally. if you want the pictures to my tests, I'm glad to show my proof, email me at [email protected] or go to my youtube page and see my nexus one vids. I'll be uploading some videos when my friend returns to my house, yes speeds vary even by the day or hour due to traffic, but I'm normally getting over 1mbit/s all day long, he gets very bad lag in his network, he pays 120 a month which is about twice what I pay and his calling/data/all around sucks. Why argue? why bother? I've asked my friends with nexus one in jersey city to test his network and it's almost as fast as mine, so i'm not in luck here, tmobile simply rocks after their network upgrade december 2009, don't forget they'll be doing another upgrade for intense speeds before 2010 ends.
Signing off Gslick, email me for pictures of the tests.
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i am in columbus area and here tmobile 3G is bad, i dont get 3G at all in my house.
i have a iphone 3gs and it gets 3G coverage everywhere.
as soon as i get off the highway 3g bars with tmobile starts going down.
the funny thing is that even in tmobile store i get EDGE with tmobile phones and the att 3gs gets 3G
and no i donot work with att.
my advice check 3G coverage to whatever city you travel the most.
i would go with mediocre 3G speed but better coverage, instead of blazing fast 3G with no coverage
This all depends on where you live and what type of service quality you are looking for.... I've heard ATT and T-Mobile trashed on forums for various reasons.
I live in Austin, Texas, USA... I can't speak for data service as I'm using a T-Mobile frequency G1 on ATT network - so, I'm restricted to Edge data service.
However, my wife has several friends who are on T-mobile and they constantly drop calls. Which DOES NOT happen to us on ATT. Also, ATT has MUCH better reception in the rural areas where I work than T-Mobile (which is VERY spotty in the rural areas).
So, my wife and I refuse to leave ATT for now. Despite my near clinical depression over not being able to upgrade my G1!
Data may or may not be better for T-mobile in the urban area here - I don't know.
I would check with your friends and family who travel the same areas that you do - who also have service with both carriers and have decent phones.
The claims from store reps will almost always be biased - however, if you have a friend who is a store rep who will give you an honest opinion - I would ask them what kind of complaints they hear "in store" regarding the other carriers.
Don't just take someone else's word from a post on this forum if that person DOES NOT live in your area - as they could have a completely different experience and the carriers' infrastructure could be very different.
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T-Mo this summer is going to smoke AT&T as the fastest 3g network.But as far as coverage AT&T is a little better,plus is true that lower frequency is better penetrating to buildings,that's one problem i'm dealing now with T-Mo,but the price is right,so I guess at the end you have to look for the best one for your needs.
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AT&T coverage is not a little better than T-MO, it's a lot better, for both data and voice.
I have no idea what make anyone think T-MO America, who is in dire financial straits right now, has the money to keep up with AT&T's massive mobile network build-out. The truth is, they can't. AT&T has steadily been improving backhaul and connection speeds, is getting ready for 4G deployment and has that capacity in place in many places already.
AT&T's network has been improving faster than anyone else's, and that's why they currently have the fastest 3G speeds on the nation's #2 3G network for coverage. But they are far from done, and any competitor who thinks they're sitting still to be leapfrogged had better be prepared to spend a boatload of money to build, because AT&T is. T-MO just does not have the resources (revenue) to keep up.
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Ok Ok I know location plays a huge part in this but let me say this, AT&T is 100% trash compared to Tmobile (based on New Jersey), They pay millions to say they cover 97% of US and they have the fastest 3G in the US. When? 8 Years AGO?
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You're talking out your butthole, pure and simple. Your narrow view of the network is a paradigm child of your limited experience with it. It's nothing more than crap folklore.
Wow, I live in Lewiston, ID. There isn't much around here and I have hit 3.5mb down and 1mb up with my Hero. For some reason lately I can't hit Liberty Lake with Speedtest. Is a couple hours away up by Spokane WA. For some reason it thinks I am 45mi away from Wichita, KS. Still hit almost 2.97mb down and 1.07mb up with a 348 ping.
some ppl. here are getting biased here.
for me i live in columbus and i bought the HD2 was waiting for it for months if not longer, but was sooooooo disappointed when i got it really bad 3G, next to nothing.
call quality soooooo bad, many ppl. are saying that its the HD2 thats at fault.
but i dont know, i have a 3GS in the house and that gets 3G even in tmobile store where the HD2 didnt
so i will think twice before taking tmobile in the future, asleast FOR AS LONG AS I LIVE IN COLUMBUS.
thats my personal experience, i cannot speak for other US cities or locations.
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T-Mobile because AT&T network is lame. They actually told their iFail users to don't use internet as much because of their weak ass network and they are locking down their android phones so T-Mobile wins of course.
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That's a complete load of crap. It's an outright lie. Maybe you didn't start it, but it's still a lie.
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some ppl. here are getting biased here.
for me i live in columbus and i bought the HD2 was waiting for it for months if not longer, but was sooooooo disappointed when i got it really bad 3G, next to nothing.
call quality soooooo bad, many ppl. are saying that its the HD2 thats at fault.
but i dont know, i have a 3GS in the house and that gets 3G even in tmobile store where the HD2 didnt
so i will think twice before taking tmobile in the future, asleast FOR AS LONG AS I LIVE IN COLUMBUS.
thats my personal experience, i cannot speak for other US cities or locations.
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Columbus, OHIO- right? I live in the upper left corner of Ohio (Williams County) and want to get a nexus one. However, everyone I know has Verizon. I am sick of waiting so I am going to get one now. According to tmobile's and att's websites, att has the better coverage. I was also considering the palm pre plus ($50 bucks for two!), but I want the sexy nexus one.
Its very annoying that phone models are locked into specific carriers (hope this changes in the future) but im currently on AT&T, which in my area has the best overall signal coverage. Can this phone be put on the ATT network?
Is this phone a good one? My roommate just got the Incredible 2, and im liking the Thunderbolt, but thinking i need to jump on the Dual core market. I currently have a Touch pro 2, which is ok, but SLOW.
Also, what features does this phone have? HTC's own site seems selective on what they post on their specs (they tend to leave out common features on some phones)
Things I like on the thunderbolt spec sheet are..
Dual mics with noise cancellation, Compass sensor, G-Sensor, Proximity sensor (not sure what this is used for), Light sensor, 3.5mm audio jack, MicroUSB, FM radio. (i also like the kick stand)
The G-Sensor i think is pretty standard these days, tho not sure what they mean by the Compass sensor, id be great if it actually had a compass in it.
But this phone doesn't list ANY special features on HTC site.
Thanks in advance.
The Bell model gets At&t bands
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The Bell model gets At&t bands
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the What model?
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the What model?
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Bell is a Canadian phone company (pretty sure) and has the same bands as ATT so their phones are compatible. If you're gonna jump onto the dual-core wagon, check out the SGS2 phones (i'm pretty sure ATT has one coming to them soon if not already...) Then you wont need to unlock or worry about compatibility
The sensation 4g will work on att, but you won't get 3g data.
Of the specs you listed regarding the Thunderbolt, the sensation 4g has all those features, minus a kickstand.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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Don't try to get the tmobile version. You won't get anything above 2g.
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The Bell (Canadian) model (Z710A) will work on AT&T 3G. The T-Mobile or European versions will work on AT&T, but they will only connect with EDGE data speeds, not 3G.
I'm not overly concerned about data really, unless i'm forced to pay for it. The Touch Pro 2 i have now i bought unlocked so i didn't have to pay for data.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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I thought the light sensor did that? My TP2 does that, but doesn't mention a prox. sensor.
The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G
You shouldn't have a required data plan if you pay cash for the phone.
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The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G
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Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
Well, nobody around here offers this phone.. Which sucks. Ive been watching reviews on both This and the SGS2. While the SGS2 looks like a nice phone, and seems to be pretty comparable, i like how the Sensation looks alitlte more. The button placement, and the more 'roundness of it is more to my taste than then square 'iphone-iks' looking SGS2. Hell id proly be willing to start using a data plan if i could get this phone on att. (tmobile isnt in my area, if they are their coverage isnt good.)
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Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
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$550CAD straight from Bell Canada, which won't really help you much if you don't live in Canada or near the border. Once they're carrier unlocked and have custom ROMS I'll drive up and pick up a Bell model to use on AT&T, can't wait
ok.. i was wrong.. T-mobile is apparently in my area. I have no personal experiences with them however and none of my friends use them, so not sure how well they work in my area. Its food for thought tho.
Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts
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Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts
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im around IU campus in Indiana. Their map shows 'average' coverage around town, but i know how exaggerated/inaccurate those maps can be.
As far as the data, from what ive seen, it includes up to 4g
Unlimited high-speed data access (first 200 MB at up to 4G speeds on capable devices)
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You are correct, 3g isn't in this area, let alone 4g (and from what i've told, nobody except Verizon has 'true 4g' anyway)
I dono, i guess im just use to ATT lol. Still, even with a new contract its 200 bucks upfront, which i cant afford atm. Still, im kinda drooling over this phone lol. Im over WinMo
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Im over WinMo
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about time.
If there are wal-marts in your part of the country, I hear they have it for $148.88
lol, yea, otherside of town has one, but blah buying one from wal-mart. Somehow i dont trust them to set things up correctly. Transferring my number and whatnot. It will take a month or two for me to have the money in any event.
i kinda hate that every place has different deals. T-mobile itslef has a higher upfront cost, ($250) but a lower monthly charge (59.99) but Newegg has a lower upfront ($150) but a higher monthly (69.99). The monthly cost seems to differ in the data.. Tmoble charing 10, newegg 20.
Bah!
@ Lyian Keep an eye out on the tmobile website. Just last Wed/Thurs (for lilke 24 hours) they were selling the Sensation for free with new contracts/new lines of service.
Keep an eye out tmo does that all the time.
If anyone wants to know I have a Sensation from T-mobile in Puerto Rico and I noticed that it says in the box that it works on 1700, 1900 and 2100 frequencies for data which means it can work on AT&T.
I'll try to unblock it later and see if it really works.
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Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
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The speaker isn't that good for most apps. But for certain apps (like Google Music) it's really loud. I don't know why. Most people have overcome this problem by using the Equalizer app or Volume+ though. And yes, it can do that.
I wrote up a little rant about how virgin mobile is better in so many ways. check it out. you will see why you are the smarter ones.
http://androidforums.com/motorola-triumph/426738-why-we-laugh-contract-phones.html
VM != Sprint though. Thus our coverage is limited. That and other companies are starting to roll out somewhat comparable plans, like T-Mobile's $30 plan with unlimited-ish data, which resembles Virgin Mobile USA's unlimited plan too. Not that we're throttled yet, but still.
If one could deal with the slow slow data, then I'll say yes its a good deal. I was a happy Virgin Mobile customer t'ill I discover the world of 4G and I have never looked back. I also save money by not having the need of home ISP (comcast) 4G hotspot is more then one needs to run my laptop and PS3.
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If one could deal with the slow slow data, then I'll say yes its a good deal. I was a happy Virgin Mobile customer t'ill I discover the world of 4G and I have never looked back. I also save money by not having the need of home ISP (comcast) 4G hotspot is more then one needs to run my laptop and PS3.
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True that. I miss my tmo service. There 3g is 2x-3x faster then Virgin. Nexus Prime here I come!
What exactly is their faster 3G known as then? As I understood ut Virgin Mobile's CDMA Rev. A was the fastest 3G available, without being prematurely labeled as 4G.
Anyway, I doubt where I live in Hicksville WI will be covered with T-Mobile's 4G, whatever it really is.
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What exactly is their faster 3G known as then? As I understood ut Virgin Mobile's CDMA Rev. A was the fastest 3G available, without being prematurely labeled as 4G.
Anyway, I doubt where I live in Hicksville WI will be covered with T-Mobile's 4G, whatever it really is.
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Not sure what you're insinuating but Virgin Mobile's 3g is a joke compared to any of the 4 post paid wireless carriers. That includes sprints, which runs off the same network but at a lot lower speeds.
For me personally, one of the major reasons that I hate dealing with the major players it that they treat their new customers better than the existing ones. For example I got an email today that I can get the Thunderbolt for $0.01 today on Amazon. But if I am an existing customer, it would be $120 if I am an individual, and if I am part of a family plan $180!!!!!!!!!!! I mean really is that any way to treat loyal customers. At least with a prepaid service I know that I am not getting screwed.
just so everyone knows i would like you to know i changed my prl to sprints 00115 i think and i am also running 3g turbo charger and i am getting 1.2~1.5 kbps on speed test. so just an fyi with a little work your phone can be way faster than tmobiles 3 g network. you just have to be willing to spend a few hours working on the phone. =)
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just so everyone knows i would like you to know i changed my prl to sprints 00115 i think and i am also running 3g turbo charger and i am getting 1.2~1.5 kbps on speed test. so just an fyi with a little work your phone can be way faster than tmobiles 3 g network. you just have to be willing to spend a few hours working on the phone. =)
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Way faster? I think not. I was downloading between 6-6.5 mbs, and uploading at 3-3.5 mbs with my 3g vibrant.
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I too was a prepaid guy trying to make arguments on how great prepaid was, and how much of a sucker post paid is. Till I started envying all the great phones I was missing out on, and noticing how much slower 3g on Virgin was as to how much better it was on Sprint.
I don't think Sprint's 3G is faster than virgin mobile's 3G. I think it's the phone that make you feel the speed difference. If you move to Sprint and get a better phone, your web pages will load much faster. I used to have Sprint with the TP2, then switch to VM with the Triumph. I can tell you that web pages load much faster on the Triumph. I also ran speedtest and I got similar results from both.
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I don't think Sprint's 3G is faster than virgin mobile's 3G. I think it's the phone that make you feel the speed difference. If you move to Sprint and get a better phone, your web pages will load much faster. I used to have Sprint with the TP2, then switch to VM with the Triumph. I can tell you that web pages load much faster on the Triumph. I also ran speedtest and I got similar results from both.
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Modems/radios can make the phone download/upload faster, but your still using a sprint 3g connection. Of course your triumph will download faster, the tp2 is much older, and so is the radio inside of it.
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The problem with Pre-paid and Virgin and others like Boost is this : If you travel the phone works like a turtle, if you are in a big city where they have coverage then you are ok.
So, in other words, if you do not leave a big city where you live it works just fine, but if you have to travel all over you are ****-outa-luck buddy !
It would be nice that was not the case, but since I have to travel from Hawaii to D.C I know what I am talking about I've experienced it.
So, in some cases Virgin is fine........ in my case......... it does not perform.
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The problem with Pre-paid and Virgin and others like Boost is this : If you travel the phone works like a turtle, if you are in a big city where they have coverage then you are ok.
So, in other words, if you do not leave a big city where you live it works just fine, but if you have to travel all over you are ****-outa-luck buddy !
It would be nice that was not the case, but since I have to travel from Hawaii to D.C I know what I am talking about I've experienced it.
So, in some cases Virgin is fine........ in my case......... it does not perform.
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What up Oka. I hate this phone and service. Its almost "Prime" time, and wll be partying it up with you and the rest of the EDT boys.
Lol, makes sense. VM is marketed towards people in big cities, who already have computers and wifi.
This is probably with the hope that the people who buy the phones, just use them on wi-fi and rarely, if ever, touch their mobile data except for calls (which are limited in the plans anyway) or texts (which cost VM essentially nothing). Maybe that's why they decided to put on the bandwidth cap... there are more country bumpkins taking advantage of their coverage between major cities (like I do).
AT$T pulled a total jerk move, and passed up our region entirely. There's no T-Mobile store in the area, although GSM Tracfones used to work.
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Modems/radios can make the phone download/upload faster, but your still using a sprint 3g connection. Of course your triumph will download faster, the tp2 is much older, and so is the radio inside of it.
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That's exactly my point. It's the phone. Not the network. In my case, both connect at the same speed but the Triumph seems much faster.
I am one of those people that rarely touch my data plan because I have wifi everywhere. Also in the areas where I don't have good cell signal, I use GooVeIP to still make and receive calls. I know its not for everyone, but when I look at even getting the Droid Bionic for a penny and then the fact that I would be forking out almost over a $1000 more over the 2 years for less min. I just can't do it.
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If one could deal with the slow slow data, then I'll say yes its a good deal. I was a happy Virgin Mobile customer t'ill I discover the world of 4G and I have never looked back. I also save money by not having the need of home ISP (comcast) 4G hotspot is more then one needs to run my laptop and PS3.
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and that is the reason why throttling and bandwidth caps came into existence.
I could live with a bandwidth cap if I freakin' knew where and what it was. I also started ogling the unlocked GSM phones after discovering T-Mobile's plan, although really I feel somewhat "locked-in" now that I've spent $300 on a Triumph.
Locked in like a two-year contract with a company that knows where they can find me? Hardly. But still, a little locked.
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He probably pays for the tethering
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