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Hi All,
Got this funny problem since I have flashed TNT WM6.1.
My mobile battery shows some funny traits.
1. It can suddenly go off (even if the bar is at 87% or 63% or 30% or anything of that sort)
2. Once it goes off, it gets into a loopback of restarting the device, goes upto the screen where WM6.1 logo appears and restarts again.
3. The only way I can then get it restarted is to get it to plug to a powersource.
4. When I plugin it shows within 5 min that the battery is fully charged.
5. I use audio manager a lot and its like every 30 seconds 1% of battery is gone.
Have search through the forum but haven't found anything like this.
Anyone has face a similar problem and found any solution?
Any help will be much appreciated.
I am on SPL/IPL 3.08.
Time for a new battery....
I ran across the same problem. It turned out that the terminals on the battery were seriously worn down so much that the battery couldn't hold a charge to safe it's life let alone mine!!!! I went to a battery store and replaced the muthaf^$#a!!!!!
Go grab a new battery and you'll be electric sliding again in no time!!!!
Thanks Trej3k. Much appreciate your response.
Yeah
Had the same issue.
Replaced the battery ... and now everything is fine.
Now I don't expect 5 days without recharge but at least 2 days.
Along with the new battery I bought an battery charger so now I can use two batteries.
The nice thing is that the old battery is lasting at least as the new one, Maybe because of the charging more regularly and not so frequently and because both batteries never go in usage when they are hot of charge.
Try your thing
Aldo
I had the same problem pretty soon after I flashed my ROM for the first time. I would charge to 100% and then browse the Internet or take a call, and the device would reset within a couple of minutes b/c it would think it was out of power. The timing may have been a coincidence; I don't know. I bought an extended battery and everything works fine now.
mikey5 said:
I had the same problem pretty soon after I flashed my ROM for the first time. I would charge to 100% and then browse the Internet or take a call, and the device would reset within a couple of minutes b/c it would think it was out of power. The timing may have been a coincidence; I don't know. I bought an extended battery and everything works fine now.
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I had the exact same problem right after flashing to wm6. I really wonder if it's a coincidence.
I ordered a new battery today because I have exactly the same problem. I also apeared after flashing WM6.1 a while ago an became worse with time. Since my battery is 3 years old, it could also just be a battery at its end of life...
Regards,
Rudi
Hi people. I'm having battery problems since I bought my TP. I tried many ROM and Radios combinations and the problem persists.
Also tried discharging the battery and long charging while turned off (3 consecutive days) as recommended by some members here in xda.
Nothing solved. What could it be? A hardware problem (TP itself) or only a bad battery? Whats more likely?
I would like to know where can I buy an original spare battery to test this. Anyone know?
Thanks in advance!
google.... Here's one, but it's a yahoo page. Take down the oem # and start from there. Also, i think there was a little booklet that should have came with your tp about accessories... http://www.wirelessground.com/htctprooembatt.html
what about using non-official batteries? its risky? because there are batteries for TP for about 5 usd
You know that it will drain battery as long as it is in "sleep-mode" and not entirely powered down. You have to press the powerbutton for 3-4 seconds and then it asks you if you want to power off.
Mr.Sir said:
You know that it will drain battery as long as it is in "sleep-mode" and not entirely powered down. You have to press the powerbutton for 3-4 seconds and then it asks you if you want to power off.
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Of course, I mean my TP has a abnormal batt drain with normal use... the batt lasts less than 12h. I unplug it 10am and the battery is finished before 10pm depending on use.
have you by any change changed the TF3D theme?
i made my own theme, but i get the impression that battery drains much faster now. watched the battery fall from 21% to 18% in 3 minutes without doing anything besidesscrolling between TF3D tabs.i think themes might be making more use of the 3d accelerator and drain the battery..
I'm using default theme from ROMeOS v1.20
respider said:
Of course, I mean my TP has a abnormal batt drain with normal use... the batt lasts less than 12h. I unplug it 10am and the battery is finished before 10pm depending on use.
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yeah.. agreed..the bat is so fast drain. never have this problem with athena.
respider said:
Of course, I mean my TP has a abnormal batt drain with normal use... the batt lasts less than 12h. I unplug it 10am and the battery is finished before 10pm depending on use.
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Oh, I´m sorry
Do you have it turned on all the time in locked mode? Or do you put it to sleep/standby when you not use it?
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Oh, I´m sorry
Do you have it turned on all the time in locked mode? Or do you put it to sleep/standby when you not use it?
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Standby when not in use. Actually, while I dont use, the battery drain seems normal, maybe 2 days or more. The problem is when I use it.
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Standby when not in use. Actually, while I dont use, the battery drain seems normal, maybe 2 days or more. The problem is when I use it.
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I have the same problem... When I dont use it (stand by mode) it lasts 2 days, but when I use it is lasts 12h maximum...
Tried everything.
Dont know what to do...
thats sad =(
maybe Ill try one of those alternative batteries in ebay
How about upgrading the Radio Rom!? I have found since going to 1.02.25.28 and having ROMeOS² v1.21 my battery life is much better than stock Roms of both!!
Its something worth trying and easy enough to change back...
Has there been any good solutions? My battery life is starting to annoy me.
Maybe I'll pick up a second battery and charging cradle thing for it...
That's one thing that I liked about the instinct...
I think we need a Stock TP to compare it to .. I know when I bought mine for the first day or two without adding anything to it, I didn't notice an issue with the battery. Now that I've installed tweaking software, theme, etc - battery drain is definitely noticeable. I'm thinking it may have to do with one (or more) of the programs we put on the phone.
Anyone here have a completely stock TP with a battery problem?
viper_campbell said:
How about upgrading the Radio Rom!? I have found since going to 1.02.25.28 and having ROMeOS² v1.21 my battery life is much better than stock Roms of both!!
Its something worth trying and easy enough to change back...
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tried all radios available in wiki page (except .11 and .16)
but that was with romeos 1.12 and dcs, I'll give a try for .28 with romeos 1.21
but I'm pretty sure that the problem is hardware, since many people use romeos 1.21 and radio .19 and dont have problems...
My phone had a very short battery life when it was bone stock too.
I'm afraid to see what it's like now with the tweaks!!!
mine is original stock TP batterry..but also facing the same problem. in average have to charge twice in a day..and the charging takes a few hours. so my phone is only running on battery for not more that 15 hrs in a day..
I'm hoping now thats its a bad batch of batteries problem and not a phone itself problem
I'm having a simlar issues. Put my TP on off/standby (single press of power button) at around 10pm, on flight mode enabled, all appliactions closed via task manger. Battery was at 80% when I did this. My TP's low battery alert woke me up at 4:30am at 8% charge.
My Blueangel used to last several days in the same state out of it's cradle without needing to be charged!
I to am hoping it's just a duff battery.
UPDATE: Seems I was being a twonk! I had unchecked the Auto-Shutdown option for a game I was playing and forgot to turn it back on, so my TP was turning on at midnight to do it's housekeeping and not shutting down again properly.
I still don't think my battery life is normal though, may try the following:
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Found this on Sprintusers.com: It's an 06 post, but I wonder if it's still an issue. Found here http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175896
Received the below from my Sprint rep.
It has been brought to my attention that there is a glitch in Windows Mobile phones that has been there since WM5… Apparently when a phone is first used the firmware looks at the charge on the battery as a reference point as to how long to charge it for until it is completely charged. So for example, if you have a WM phone that has a half charge on the battery when you first plug it in the device will only ever charge up 50% of the battery. You need to basically set the phone to put that marker in place when the phone is completely dead to gain the most battery performance you can.
Here is the best practice for doing this:
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1. Let the phone completely die on battery power.
2. Plug the phone in and charge for only about 5 minutes (just long enough it can boot up completely)
3. Perform a hard reset of the device, this is done differently depending on the phone model.
4. Then place the phone on charge for at least 8hrs.
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This should reset that marker that the operating system places on the battery charge cycle and will allow the phone to completely charge the battery rather than only a % of a full charge. This procedure can be done at anytime and I would suggest having your customers try this process first before returning a device based on battery life issues.
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I have 2 SPVC600 phones and one is not even 24 hours in standby before the battery goes empty, whereas the other phone is in standby several days. I tried several different "virgin" ROMs on both phones, several different batteries, still the same problem, one phone just sucks the energy out of the battery like crazy.
Anybody knows where the problem is and how it could be fixed?
Thanks
Pirondello
Same Here...
Hi, i know that this is a old thread, but... the same issue here, i have a T-mobile SDA, replace the original battery that come with the phone 2 years ago, this battery die and ebay a fresh battery again, but... nothing, goes empty in less than 13 hours with the fresh and new battery (with the old one at least 4 hours before die under nitrogen´s wm6 rom), any suggestion? (i clean the phone of programs, change roms, downgrade to original WM5 but... nothing, only 12 to 14 hours and empty ), the new battery is a "OEM ST26" from sanyo...
Until this day, my tornado was the more reliable and trust phone that i´ve had
Can you recommend me any procedure for test the phone... do you think that is a usb connection Issue, i read in a lot of threads that this could be Rom upgrade... ´coz the new drivers, componets, etc.... any help ir really appreciated
Greetings from Colombia...
Usually the original batteries are the best you can get. Even the (now very old) original ones (Sanyo ST26-C) still have their original capacity and I have not seen a single battery of these that has failed until now.
If you see such a drain from the device you could possibly disassemble the device and clean it. If that does not help - sad :-(
Does it make difference if you charge the battery on the device being off or while OS is running?
If you have volt-meter: what is th battery-voltage when empty/fully loaded?
Hi Tobbie, thanks for the reply, yeah, i follow all procedures for battery maintance, i try charge with the phone off, phone on (with radio turned on and off, really i only see a difference of only 1 1/2 hours...), this night i try clean with isopropilic alcohol the contacs between battery an phone and i see... i noted something peculiar:sometimes when i plug the AC Adapter or connecting to my desktop, the led indicator (in this case orange), dont turn on, sometime this led appars and dissapear passing 20 seconds but full charge the phone (i see this in seetings=> energy configuration => 100%)... other times this light is hold until this change to green (fully charged), but ever the same result, lees than 12 Hours... this happen with both batteries (old one and fresh buyed from a reliable seller 15 days ago...)
I download awhile the service manual for tornado but... Scare... i really love this phone, really i have now a LG Incite, but this phone is my "backup", coz all time buy and sell phones, but this since 2005 "sleep with me...", if after clean contacts i dont see any change or fix... No mercy with tornado´s LOL...
and i want with all neighborhoods a voltimeter, can you tell me about the standar values for this battery (my knowlodgement about electronics are limited a lot), i post my results here after my test...)
Thanks a lot, i hope that you can help me later (and sorry for my ugly english)
Greetings from Colombia
This sounds weird, but the only reasonable source of evil is that also your other battery (equally aged, but unused probably) is chemically dead. It hardly ever happens that the charge-electronics is going mad somehow. With the many Tornado that I had on my desk, not a single one had problems with this part. For some devices I have seen that the batteries were stone dead - and these behave as you describe it.
It looks as if the battery has lost its capacity. A fully charged battery has a capacity of roughly 1100 mAh. With a drain of ~75mA (for the fully lit display) this will last 14h and 40 minutes. So a similar power drain would have to suck the juice off the battery - which I doubt that anything will do. If you switched off all radio parts (GSM, WLAN + BT) there is nothing left that drains the battery like this.
You could try to check how long the batteries will last when you have the display light draining the battery additionally. For this part it is well known how much it drains (see above) - and if you see that the battery lasts half the time of what you said before - then the battery is ok and the device has some mysterious power drain. If however the battery only lasts a few minutes with this defined load - then it is surely dead.
Check the battery capacity link in my signature to get the tooling for measuring this easily.
Voltages should be measured with a digital Voltmeter if you have access to one. They are for dead batteries not much different to good ones if you do not apply load, but a fully charged LiIon has around 4,2 V and discharged in a Tornado around 3,55 V.
The Tornado will shut off at around 3,55 V but if the Voltage is much higher when removing the battery and measuring the Voltage - another hint for a dead battery.
Good luck
hi, i've got a problem with my vox, it cuts out completely very often. all power is lost, it is not just a shutdown. i did get it very slightly wet, and it seems this problem has developed since that happened. do you think this would be solved by getting a new battery? i came to this concliusion because there are now problems when it is plugged in, and i think the power runs through the battery when it is plugged in because it doesn't turn on without the battery in. the fault seems to happen when there is a high power drain: if i put wifi in then it dies after about a minute, and sometimes it will dies as i pick up a calll or part way through one. usually i am able to listen to music through headphones using tcpmp, but normally this will die after 40 minutes or so. the battery life as a whole is terrible, with about 2 hours of using the battery draining it, and the battery is about 2 years old so i guess it could be dead? i'm trying to decide whether to buy a new one ( probably the bulky 2200mah) or give up on a phone which is on its way out (no loudspeaker-i use vibrate). so yeah, is this the battery or the motherboard?
thanks
I would say it's the battery. I had the same problem with two batteries before.
i guess it is the battery at fault.
I've had the same problem and it was rectified by a battery change.
Hi guys
I should be picking up my SGS2 today and I was just wondering what exactly I should be doing with the battery? I've read in a bunch of places that draining the battery fully and then recharging it fully gives better battery life, but I've also read this:
Lithium ion batteries do not respond well to full discharge, you will see reduced capacity and early failure if it happens too often. In any case it is not possible to overcharge the battery on a BlackBerry because the battery and phone have enough intelligence to control the charge (unless the battery is already defective).
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(this is from crackberry.com but you get the idea)
What's the best thing to do?
And on Android phones, when the battery indicator shows 20% or something, is that when the phone is going to die? Or will it die at 0%? Obviously at 20% it would be to protect the battery but maybe Android has been programmed to show 0% when the battery is actually at 20%.
Thanks,
Elliott
read manuals !!!!!! You can see this
Did not receive an owners manual with my phone. Anyway...phone is charging now so too late I guess...
Starholdest said:
Did not receive an owners manual with my phone. Anyway...phone is charging now so too late I guess...
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The manual is probably stored on the phone, at least my new Ascend II came with its stored on the phone, you have to goto the big menu (forgive me for not knowing the technical term for it) to find it however
i got my battery fully charged...then in the first day i discharged it till 10% at least that's what my phone was saying
i read too that the new li-ion batteryes do not need to be "formated" (fully discharged till the phone dies and then fully charged with the phone turned off) in android case i think that thing is not posible coz it needs at least 5% to pass the bootloader and then begin to charge
anyway in my manual it says that the battery will begin the normal state after 8 days of use, until then it may disschage quick
i have a motorola defy
Calibrate the battery. Charge the phone while its switched off for about 6 hours, and then use the phone untill the entire battery runs out and it switches off on its own. After this, the phone should be able to use the battery properly.
i just used my galaxy and made it empty, then charged it full.
nowadays i have runtimes from 3days (72 hours) and then its @ about 5%
there seems to be a lot of back-and-forth regarding whether or not draining a battery is healthy; i drain my iphone battery down to zero about once a month and the battery has been doing fine for two years . . . whether it would be doing just as well without the draining time is anyone's guess.
I have always been under the impression that lit-ion batteries do not need any kind of special care or break in. But since our phones estimate the charge, we should occasionally let the battery run out to reset the calibration in case it gets screwed up.
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I don't think you need to worry about draining the battery till it's dead. My phone dies often and the battery is still kickin It's my understanding, that the purpose of draining the phone before you charge it is to calibrate what the OS says for charge remaining to the battery's actual charge.
Or something like that...
Hi all,
I have my sgs 2 since June and it's working pretty well apart from the battery drain which is very harmful in my daily life
I've recently flashed the Cognition 1.30 (last friday). Before that, my sgs was able to last the entire day before discharging with a moderate use (10-20 mn on games, few sms, 15 mn consulting mails, 1 hr on internet). Since i've flashed with the cognition Rom, the battery drain is really awesome!!!!!!
I fully charge the phone (switched off) then when i switch it on and the phone stays idle, after 1 hr or so, i've already lost almost 20%. When i'm on internet or playing games, the battery loss is approximatively of 1% per min.
I've made a full wipe and recalibrated my battery so normally it should at least last a day and thats not the case.
Could somebody help me or should i buy a new battery and test it ?
Because i relly like this rom and from others users, it has a good feedback concerning the battery use