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my o2 xda is running tnt wm6 for a long time now with no problems but recently my battery has started draining super fast like right infront of my eyes it drops percent numbers. i run battery status but that has never bugged the battery before. i also tried switching batteries with two of my friends and their phones run fine but mine drains fast. i have charged it with both the computer and the charger. it charges super slow and upon charging when i restart it the battery drops something like 20 percent or more instantly. could this be a virus? i factory resetted my phone and formatted my memory card but im still getting this issue. please any help would be much appreciated!
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my o2 xda is running tnt wm6 for a long time now with no problems but recently my battery has started draining super fast like right infront of my eyes it drops percent numbers. i run battery status but that has never bugged the battery before. i also tried switching batteries with two of my friends and their phones run fine but mine drains fast. i have charged it with both the computer and the charger. it charges super slow and upon charging when i restart it the battery drops something like 20 percent or more instantly. could this be a virus? i factory resetted my phone and formatted my memory card but im still getting this issue. please any help would be much appreciated!
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try other ROMs.
the fact of the matter is that ive been using this rom for so long without problems and this battery charger thingy just started a few days ago. could this be hardware problem?
Time for a new battery. Try nothing else until you have replaced it, with a new one, not one from another phone.
new battery really? u mean a battery from another phone doesnt do? and yes my battery dies very fast even my friends battery in my phone. cudnt this be a problem in my phone then? cause its his battery
Its definately a battery issue.
Check out this thread and I think you will relate: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353780
Then go to eBay and buy an new OEM replacement for like $10 shipped. I think I paid $8 for mine.
I personally think it is a bug.
On three separate occasions using various roms, my battery would drain from 100% to 0% in an hour. I would reset everything, recharge and it would run normal without problems.
I do not know what causes this but it does appear to be a software glitch, at least in my case.
try to hard reset your device and then test (after backup your data).
this can give you the clear reason (in case of the rom was running well with you).
good luck
try another radio!
i had the same issue, but it stop draining after i ordered the new battery
I suspect that it is not the battery or the unit.
its right said:
try to hard reset your device and then test (after backup your data).
this can give you the clear reason (in case of the rom was running well with you).
good luck
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Actually I am suddenly having the same problem with a brand new battery on a brand new Wizard.
I just loaded the newest Mfrazz Rom which seems to be fantastic in its applications, speed etc. however immediately on loading the ROM, my battery does get hot in normal use and drains to 30% in a normal day. I have even loaded the IRDA disable cab to no particular effect.
Is there some specific procedure to which you are referring for hard resetting the Wizard? I assume you don't just take out the battery?
Dead battery
Lithium batteries can be killed rather easily. I know from rc helis. Most mobile phones use lithium-ion batteries. Helis use lithum-polymer batteries but they have pretty much the same charactoristics. li-poly is a little more volitile, they can and will explode if you charge or discharge too much or too quickly. If you over charge, you kill it. If you over drain, you kill it.
If you are in a place where you get little or no signal turn off the radio. It will discharge quickly if it's searching for a signal. Also if you are not using the bluetooth or wifi turn them off, same thing. That's why they provided the Comm Manager. Try not to let your charge get below 20%. Definately don't let it run completely out or stay that way long.
A dead lithium battery will not hold a charge at all. Just like you see, the numbers dropping off quickly. It will charge fast too.
(Snot the battery)
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Actually I am suddenly having the same problem with a brand new battery on a brand new Wizard.
Is there some specific procedure to which you are referring for hard resetting the Wizard? I assume you don't just take out the battery?
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Looking at it afresh, it isn't the battery which is heating up on installation of this ROM, it is the unit itself. The battery seems to be remaining at a comparatively normal temperature though the heat generation does drain it very quickly as I said.
Not sure that this problem has ever been addressed before on these boards? It may be something to do with not flashing to a manufacturer's ROM before flashing to Mfrazz's new one?
Has anyone ever seen these symptoms before?
In addition to some of the other posts ,you could check this :
WM6 may need to "learn" the battery levels again.
Try FULLY discharging & recharging your battery 3-4 times.
If this doesn't make things better, maybe you should check if you are running anything strange in the background...
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In addition to some of the other posts ,you could check this :
WM6 may need to "learn" the battery levels again.
Try FULLY discharging & recharging your battery 3-4 times.
If this doesn't make things better, maybe you should check if you are running anything strange in the background...
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Lithium batteries don't recover like ni-cad. Spend the $10 and solve the problem. DONT EVER FULLY DISCHARGE A LITHIUM-ION BATTERY. That is the quickest way to kill it.
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Lithium batteries don't recover like ni-cad. Spend the $10 and solve the problem. DONT EVER FULLY DISCHARGE A LITHIUM-ION BATTERY. That is the quickest way to kill it.
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As far as I am aware it is difficult to FULLY discharge one of those batteries in the Wizard? The unit starts giving error messages when it gets to the 15% level and some time thereafter shuts most of its functions down to prevent this. Whenever I have had problems with these units getting hot and even discharging and shutting down, the battery level never seems to be at 0% when I plug it in again. I have never thereafter found any permanent damage to the battery.
I think we should address the problem which seems to be in issue here which is that somehting in the OS is causing the battery to discharge as opposed to replacing the battery and watching the problem continue. At least, that was MY problem.
I am obviously not saying batteries don't die. All I am saying is that for a lot of users, the problem may lie elsewhere. Meanwhile I have flashed back to T-Mobile and re-flashed the newest Mfrazz which SEEMS to be quite VoIP friendly and overnight the unit doesnt seem to have heated up.
since i cant order a battery from where i live i tried reflashing my phone and memory card and i think that fixed it. maybe in my case its an os bug. and yes i definitely have been treating my battery badly on discharging and over charging. thanks for the info
They are not that delicate if you know what kills em it's pretty easy to avoid. They don't develop a memory like the older ni-cads. if you are going to store one charge it first. They don't power drain by them selves unless they are in a device. Just don't leave a battery drained. Also they wont over charge in the phone. The phone will stop charging when the battery is full, and 0% is not actually 0volts. There are built in safeguards for the average user.
Hi All,
Got this funny problem since I have flashed TNT WM6.1.
My mobile battery shows some funny traits.
1. It can suddenly go off (even if the bar is at 87% or 63% or 30% or anything of that sort)
2. Once it goes off, it gets into a loopback of restarting the device, goes upto the screen where WM6.1 logo appears and restarts again.
3. The only way I can then get it restarted is to get it to plug to a powersource.
4. When I plugin it shows within 5 min that the battery is fully charged.
5. I use audio manager a lot and its like every 30 seconds 1% of battery is gone.
Have search through the forum but haven't found anything like this.
Anyone has face a similar problem and found any solution?
Any help will be much appreciated.
I am on SPL/IPL 3.08.
Time for a new battery....
I ran across the same problem. It turned out that the terminals on the battery were seriously worn down so much that the battery couldn't hold a charge to safe it's life let alone mine!!!! I went to a battery store and replaced the muthaf^$#a!!!!!
Go grab a new battery and you'll be electric sliding again in no time!!!!
Thanks Trej3k. Much appreciate your response.
Yeah
Had the same issue.
Replaced the battery ... and now everything is fine.
Now I don't expect 5 days without recharge but at least 2 days.
Along with the new battery I bought an battery charger so now I can use two batteries.
The nice thing is that the old battery is lasting at least as the new one, Maybe because of the charging more regularly and not so frequently and because both batteries never go in usage when they are hot of charge.
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Aldo
I had the same problem pretty soon after I flashed my ROM for the first time. I would charge to 100% and then browse the Internet or take a call, and the device would reset within a couple of minutes b/c it would think it was out of power. The timing may have been a coincidence; I don't know. I bought an extended battery and everything works fine now.
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I had the same problem pretty soon after I flashed my ROM for the first time. I would charge to 100% and then browse the Internet or take a call, and the device would reset within a couple of minutes b/c it would think it was out of power. The timing may have been a coincidence; I don't know. I bought an extended battery and everything works fine now.
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I had the exact same problem right after flashing to wm6. I really wonder if it's a coincidence.
I ordered a new battery today because I have exactly the same problem. I also apeared after flashing WM6.1 a while ago an became worse with time. Since my battery is 3 years old, it could also just be a battery at its end of life...
Regards,
Rudi
Thought I would create this to see if you're happy with the battery life on your Vox and post some tips about charging and discharging for better life.
I am generally dis-satisfied with battery life on the Vox however I keep a fully charged battery in my Jeep, one in my wallet and one in my Vox to always stay connected. I switch to my 2250mAh when I know I'm doing to be using WiFi a lot.
Anyways, here is what I have found;
If you reboot your phone while charging, it will jump to a higher charged state and not properly store the charge. To combat this, I have placed a strip of electrical tape over the 2nd connector to the left on the battery which stops the battery from reporting the proper charge level. I run it down and place it on my external charger. Charges last a lot longer after I do this.
Any tips for how you use your Vox to maximize battery life?
I am happy, because I usually get through one day without any problems and then I am plugging it in over night anyway! I'd love a battery with higher capacity, but I hate those extended covers!
I'm happy with the battery life.
I find it lasts longer if I use the phone until the battery is pretty much dead and then charged until full again.
I usually get 3-4 days out of it that way.
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I'm happy with the battery life.
I find it lasts longer if I use the phone until the battery is pretty much dead and then charged until full again.
I usually get 3-4 days out of it that way.
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I am not happy at all. 3-4 days ? I bought vox few days back and I get 2 days max, with most of time on standby.
Okay so I received my 2250mAh battery cover, finally. However when using the battery, my device shuts off randomly, this only happens with the extended battery. It also seems the contact sheets are deeper and the pins have a hard time reaching them. If I slide the Vox shut hard, it will also reboot.
Any idea's?
The battery life is fine as long as you don't OC it. I manage to get 3 days with normal use.
With the CPU up to 240Mhz, it barely lasts a day. So i rather use the original 6.0 rom without OC and its still fast. WM6.1 is to slow without OC'ing for me.
So after 6 months of use i finaly found my settings wich i like. And makes the battery life OK for me
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Okay so I received my 2250mAh battery cover, finally. However when using the battery, my device shuts off randomly, this only happens with the extended battery. It also seems the contact sheets are deeper and the pins have a hard time reaching them. If I slide the Vox shut hard, it will also reboot.
Any idea's?
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I got this too when I just received the battery, but after something like 2 weeks these problems disappeared
I'm happy with battery life...
I get up to 2 days with heavy voice, email, and text -- some bluetooth, very little WiFi or Internet. Personally, I've never had a problem with a phone as long as I get a full day and can charge at night. Even if I got 6 days on a battery, I don't want to have to remember to plug my phone in at some point during the day when the battery is about to go. Much easier to plug in every night.
Battery life is exceptional!
I was having problems with my original battery; the phone would simply power down even though it showed that it was charged; and did not have long battery life.
I bought a new battery now I get 3 even 4 days of use with some Bluetooth and WiFi use (not much though). The new battery also seems to have solved my power down problem; had it for 4 weeks, not one power down. I am using the LeFab VoxRomWM6.1XIP20202_v1.0. Quite fast on it's own; I do not over clock.
I have now had this problem twice this week. I have read other posts that sound similar but the issue seems different.
Twice I have shut down my phone at night. With FULL battery. The next morning, I could not turn the phone on. It would vibrate when I hit power button but not come on at all.
Both times I plugged it in and saw that the battery was COMPLETELY drained. I have seen threads where people post about some battery drain overnight, but this was an entire drain, with the phone off.
This is a major issue obviously as both times the next morning I was on the go and had zero battery life.
Any ideas of what this can be? Does it sound like a physical battery issue? Is the phone maybe not actually shutting down and getting caught in some battery draining process?
Help please.
The best way to test the shutdown issue is pulling the battery after it seems to shut down. Try pulling it for a few seconds and replacing it, but leaving the device off. If that produces the same result, try leaving the battery out overnight.
This seems to only be happening if I leave the battery in the phone.
It happened again last night. Complete drain.
Im not sure but I feel like there may have been a buzz as it turned itself off (not sure if its always there need to experiment further). I picked it up and hit buttons to make sure it wasnt just in standby. It wasnt. it was OFF.
Next morning, no battery.
Any ideas? Id love some help as this is becoming a pretty big problem for me.
Have you ruled out a hardware issue already? If not then call the carrier.
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This seems to only be happening if I leave the battery in the phone.
It happened again last night. Complete drain.
Im not sure but I feel like there may have been a buzz as it turned itself off (not sure if its always there need to experiment further). I picked it up and hit buttons to make sure it wasnt just in standby. It wasnt. it was OFF.
Next morning, no battery.
Any ideas? Id love some help as this is becoming a pretty big problem for me.
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This actually happened to me a night before last as well - twas the first night running Smooth Ice 5.1. Are you on that by chance? Not knowledgeable enough to really comment on whether or not that could be it, but it'd be something to eliminate.
I switched to the new leak last night and the battery life has been excellent off charger all day, for what it's worth.
I am on stock everything.
I am still trying to diagnose the problem.
It seems that when I Power Off, occasionally at the end of the power done I will get a Vibrate. When that happens, I think it is draining while switched off.
When the Power Down happens and I dont feel the vibrate, so far I have not experienced the drain.
Does that perhaps give anyone ideas about what might be happening? Some kind of locked in Process or App? Any likely culprits? Any diagnostics that can show, if it does drain, what drained it?
In the past when it drained I plugged it in to charge and checked battery stats, but it showed Display as the largest consumer. Does the About Battery stats reset each time you plug in and start charging?
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I am on stock everything.
I am still trying to diagnose the problem.
It seems that when I Power Off, occasionally at the end of the power done I will get a Vibrate. When that happens, I think it is draining while switched off.
When the Power Down happens and I dont feel the vibrate, so far I have not experienced the drain.
Does that perhaps give anyone ideas about what might be happening? Some kind of locked in Process or App? Any likely culprits? Any diagnostics that can show, if it does drain, what drained it?
In the past when it drained I plugged it in to charge and checked battery stats, but it showed Display as the largest consumer. Does the About Battery stats reset each time you plug in and start charging?
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It always vibrates when you power off, at least mine does.
The battery stats reset after a full charge has been achieved.
I have no idea what would be discharging it while off besides a bad battery.
Put the BetterBatteryStats application on there. The stock Battery Use GUI interface that is built into the firmware will not show you details enough, it will just show what application used the cpu for X amount and caused the battery to go down X amount.
Put BetterBatteryStats on there to find out what is causing the phone to get drained so quickly. Seems like its not going in deep sleep mode and there is some partial wakelock that is keeping the phone from going into deep sleep. That app will tell you what service or application is holding the largest wakelocks and amount of time it does it for. This helps to determine the issue. Without this, you are just speculating on the problem with the built in Battery Use stats/graph in the Status screen.
Dixit
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Put the BetterBatteryStats application on there. The stock Battery Use GUI interface that is built into the firmware will not show you details enough, it will just show what application used the cpu for X amount and caused the battery to go down X amount.
Put BetterBatteryStats on there to find out what is causing the phone to get drained so quickly. Seems like its not going in deep sleep mode and there is some partial wakelock that is keeping the phone from going into deep sleep. That app will tell you what service or application is holding the largest wakelocks and amount of time it does it for. This helps to determine the issue. Without this, you are just speculating on the problem with the built in Battery Use stats/graph in the Status screen.
Dixit
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He is talking about when his phone is powered off.
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He is talking about when his phone is powered off.
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Damn, then disregard my post. Thanks for clarifying it.
Dixit
Something else I noticed...
Over the last few data, sometimes when I power down the phone, it goes through the powering down process usual, but as soon as its done, the phone vibrates and powers right back on...
Anyone experience this or an idea why that would happen?
Just a thought; If I'm charging my phone with a generic charger (500 mA) and shut it off, it will reboot.
If I'm charging with either the factory wall charger or a 12 volt that triggers AC charge it won't.
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The reboot happens when I shut down and am not plugged in to a charger at all....
My galaxy S has been doing this too lately (loses all charge when off overnight). It always buzzes on shutdown.
One thing that mine has is a problem with the usb port, it slowly stopped working and now I can't charge it anymore through the port. I'm wondering if there is a physical short there that is causing the battery to drain. Possibly you have something similar going on, or a short elsewhere in the system.
I've noticed that you cannot shut the phone down when charging from certain chargers too, especially in the car. Very annoying.
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Hey guys,
Im still having this issue and wanted to hear if there is a known fix or solution?
Honestly, the severity of battery drain you're describing sounds lije more of a hardware issue than anything else. I would contact yoir carrier as mentioned above. Beyond that, trying out a custom ics like sky or embryo might be your best bet if you prefer the tw interface. Im on embryo 5.1 right now and am experiencing better battery health and longevity than ever before with the skyrocket. But the issue does sound like a bad battery.
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Same exact issue, but I have the t-mobile version.
Very weird!
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Same exact issue, but I have the t-mobile version.
Very weird!
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This happened to me on one of my i777s.
The phone would even not boot up. It will just vibrate. Turns out the battery was bad. Changed the battery. It was still the same.
Then tried another charger, same thing happened.
So then I changed the whole charging port part in the phone.
Voila! Phone worked like a charm.
So if you have warranty change the phone. If not change the charging port. At least in my case.
I came to a conclusion that even the battery went bad because of the bad charging. Might be a coincidence too.
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This happened to me on one of my i777s.
The phone would even not boot up. It will just vibrate. Turns out the battery was bad. Changed the battery. It was still the same.
Then tried another charger, same thing happened.
So then I changed the whole charging port part in the phone.
Voila! Phone worked like a charm.
So if you have warranty change the phone. If not change the charging port. At least in my case.
I came to a conclusion that even the battery went bad because of the bad charging. Might be a coincidence too.
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I have 3 S2 phones that I bought as defect and played around with. Two I could fix but I could not resolve the battery issue on the third phone like by buying a brandnew USB charger part (and trying the ones from the other 2 phones. It has nothing to do with the ROM or anything software either. I narrowed it down to be an issue on the actual mainboard. The weird thing is that the battery discharges way faster when the phone is turned off than when it's in use.
Hey all,
I am currently running CM9 (bhundven's 7-29 herring build) on my Galaxy S 4G, and I am having some problems with random shutdown. This has only been happening for the past few days or so (EDIT: and I have been running CM9 for about three months with no issues). It seems that the phone works perfectly fine until the charge gets to about 60% starting from a full charge, and then the phone randomly shuts off. The phone will not start back up unless I have it plugged into the wall, and the results are a little unpredictable. The first time it happened, I turned it back on and it said the battery was at 1% and charging. Now, after clearing the battery stats, it reboots to 60% battery. It seems to work perfectly fine after that, and yesterday it went all the way down to about 12% before I started charging it again. It just happened again today, and when I turned it back on it said it was at about 60%.
My charging habits are pretty bad for Li-Ion batteries; I tend to let the charge drop all the way to about 10% or 5% before I plug it in and charge it all night, way past what is necessary to get to 100%.
The battery does look a tad swollen, but I might be exaggerating.
I just wanted to know if this is a bad battery with 100% certainty, or could it be a problem with the OS or internal parts, etc. I can easily buy another battery online, and I probably will.
EDIT: Also, I have had some overheating issues with this phone, and I can often smell electrical smoke in the charger port area behind the speaker, which is why I say it might be an internal parts issue.
Thanks everyone,
cpkelley94
You need a new battery. I was having the same issue lime 3 months ago; phone was dying at half charge the when it rebooted, battery would be dead. Then when I plugged it in, it would charge in 20 minutes and the repeat the cycle. Put the battery on a table to see if its still flat. If it rocks or spins excessively, its usually an indicator of a bad cell.
Mine JUST started doing the exact same thing last week. Battery is definitely swollen. I replaced it just this evening and I'm in the process of doing a full charge from 0->100 to see how things go. I'm 99.999% sure the battery was dead. Replace yours.
Sorry for the thread necro, but I wanted to thank the OP for asking this question and to the helpful replies. We just had a heat wave here and maybe coincidentally to that, I've been having random shutdown problems. Having looked at this thread and my battery, I can tell that I definitely need to replace that. So thanks, all!